Make up your mind

by Paragon SC on Apr 23, 2008 4:49 AM PDT in USC Football Comment 11 comments

There is an interesting, albeit brief, take on John David Booty and how he being viewed by the experts in the NFL.

WHAT NFL SCOUTS ARE SAYING

Pro Football Weekly's 2008 NFL Draft Guide

Is clearly well-coached, with very sound mechanics. A pure pocket passer with functional arm strength, Booty is a West Coast, rhythm passer who will need to play in an offense that features a lot of short crosses and slants to be effective. Could develop into a solid backup, but would handicap what an offense could do as a starter.

Bonus Moment of Contradiction

Keeps his poise under pressure and does not pull the ball down to run.

Two sentences later:

Shows little awareness for pressure and can be rattled.

Both takes are correct depending on the day that you watch him. Booty will probably have end up as a back-up somewhere in the NFL, make a few bucks for a few years and then move on. He will have the memories of a great career at SC.

More interesting is how some of the experts can't decide what their take is so god only knows what they are really thinking.

Anyway, just thought I would throw it out while we go through a slow news cycle during this time of year. I will have an NFL Draft open thread up on Saturday to keep an eye on where our players end up in the draft.

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The debate continues

on whether the QB who was 19-3, with 2 Rose Bowl victories, was any good, or will be any good at the next level. All I can say is that I wish JDB the best of luck, and much success in the NFL. I hope he gets the chance to prove himself on the field and not become a footnote paragraph on a scouting report for his entire career.

by frak on Apr 23, 2008 5:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: the debate continues

Frak, I agree with your post. I have been looking at some of last years games and one thing I noticed is that Booty's completion percentage dropped off considerably once he threw the ball more then 20 yards down field. He threw the post pattern better then the out. I know a lot of people trashed our WR's but as the season wore on, they got better and most of their drops later in the season were balls thrown slightly behind them or too low, again, especially more then 20 yards downfield.

by Mrtravlear on Apr 23, 2008 9:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree

He had a hard time completing the long pass. But there were a few games that the receivers totally hosed him. Oregon St in Corvallis being one of them. The receivers catch the ball, we win that game for sure.

by frak on Apr 23, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

We're spoiled

JDB was a solid QB, even if he's not a flashy player. The problem is he followed 2 Heisman winners. He repped USC well, on-field and off, even with some fickle fans wanting to throw him under the bus, and I wish him all the best in the future.

by Defender90 on Apr 24, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Agree 100%

JDB was one of the greats in my opinion. Not too many quarterbacks have won 2 Rose bowls. The way that some of the fair weathers treated him after the Stanford loss was just sad. I don't know if that scouting report will end up defining him as a pro. I just hope he gets a chance on the field to prove himself, win or lose.

by frak on Apr 24, 2008 12:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

2 Rose Bowls?

That's because the other QB's went to BCS NC games!

I wish JDB all the best of luck in the NFL. Here's hoping his quality attributes as a pocket passer get better utilized.

Viva Sanchez! (or Mustain, or Corp?)

by tapoutstylist on Apr 25, 2008 6:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Carson Palmer

Didn't go to any NC game. In fact he only won 1 PAC-10 title, and it was a shared one with WSU.

Carson Palmer's W-L record as a starter

1998 3-2 (Sun Bowl Loss to TCU)
1999 2-1 (3OT loss to Oregon, Broken collarbone)
2000 5-7 (bye bye Paul Hackett)
2001 6-6 (Pete Carroll 1st year)
2002 10-2 (Heisman Trophy, Orange Bowl Victory, shared PAC 10 Title)

Total Record: 26-18 Win Percentage: 59.09%

John David Booty's W-L record as a starter

2006 11-2 (Shared Pac-10 title, Rose Bowl Victory)
2007 8-1 (Shared Pac-10 title, Rose Bowl Victory)

Total Record: 19-3 Win Percentage: 86.36%

Yes Carson was a better QB, but a lot of people don't like to talk about his 1998-2001 campaigns. In terms of overall career, Palmer had an amazing single season, but Booty's career was better.

by frak on Apr 25, 2008 12:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Details and minutia

Let's talk about this AFTER the draft. (Ryan, Brohm, Henne, friggin Flacco!)

I won't argue with you frak, but c'mon! Booty was decent and a quality student/athlete. Top notch QB? I think the professionals know a little more about this one then the both of us combined. No matter how much CFB masturbation we do with facts.

by tapoutstylist on Apr 27, 2008 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not saying that you're wrong

Merely pointing out that JDB provided 2 solid seasons at the helm, and gets torn apart for his efforts. I believe the NFL scouts are probably right about his ability. I was just hoping that he gets the chance to prove them all wrong.

by frak on Apr 27, 2008 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

JDB went to the perfect team today!

He's got so much potential in the NFL to develop, I- in no way- think he's an average QB. He just happened to be playing for the most talked-about team in all of CFB, and I think that may have played a big part in him not wanting to blow it week-in and week-out.

With him going to Minnesota, he has a chance to move right up the depth chart. Their current starting QB is prone to too many mistakes and isn't cerebral enough for the pro level. John David's cerebral enough to pick up the nuances of the pro game. When he gets his feet wet in game situations coupled with the way the NFL plays disciplined defense, I think he has the potential to do many good things. He's going from WestCoast to WestCoast.

We couldn't have asked for him to be drafted by a better team to utilize his strengths in the coming years. (I just hope he's not thrust into game situations too soon)

btw: personally, I think he's better than most all the other QB's that went before him. Ryan sure is good though. did you see how far down Dixon, Ainge, Flynn and Woodson went? some of the players in Sundays rounds went way farther down than I expected. i cringed to see how early MeSean went though! can't stand that punk-ass punk.

by tapoutstylist on Apr 27, 2008 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

DeSean

He left college without ever backup his smack talk about USC. He left a loser to USC, and he probably still has nightmares about that hit he took in the Coliseum 2 years ago.

by frak on Apr 28, 2008 6:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs