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Rounding out tales of U-Dub

Given the general back and forth from last week's mention of the Seattle Times series about U-Dub football in the Neuheisel era, it seems worthwhile to follow up regarding the rest of the stories in the series. Suffice to say, two of the three don't make for inspiring reading, though the third is a welcome conclusion. The Seattle Times also published a defense of the articles in response to early criticisms, of which more anon....

So, the stories that followed the drunken debacle that was Jerramy Stevens:

  • Linebacker Jeremiah Pharms played for an entire season after shooting a local drug dealer for a bag of marijuana, having purchased from the same individual previously. Evidence against Pharms included a bloody fingerprint on a car belonging to a friend, but for a variety of reasons, it took 14 months for charges to be filed; Pharms took a deal for a short sentence and has been in and out of trouble with the law since.
  • Strong safety Curtis Williams was constantly in trouble for spousal abuse, a deadbeat father, a convicted felon, and managed to get arrested each of the five years that he played for the Huskies. Williams came to a sad end, dying at age 24, a year and a half after a spinal injury on the field left him paralyzed from the neck down.
  • On a more inspiring note, despite pressure from within the team, linebacker Anthony Kelly overcome the educational and social deficits of a hard upbringing to become engaged in his studies and in working with youth in South Africa, including adopting a South African girl with his wife. Well worth a read when you're feeling cynical about "student" athletes.
Overall, a pretty mixed bag.

As you might imagine, there's been some pretty strong responses to the article up in Seattle, including accusations that the Seattle Times are trying to scupper both efforts to get public monies for renovations to Husky Stadium, as well as recruiting. Executive Editor David Boardman addressed them here, focusing on the relative recency of some of the data, and the general importance of how the program is run.

Interestingly, Boardman did say this:

We did not intend to impact UW recruiting one way or another, though in retrospect the story seems more likely to hurt recruiting by UCLA, where Neuheisel is the new coach, than it does at Montlake.

That was pretty mild by comparison to this epic rant by Bob Rickert on OregonLive.

I rather doubt that there will be much of a "Thanks but Neu thanks" effect - Neuheisel's got plenty of coaching to do, but he's also inherited a pretty clean program and given players incentives to commit in the form of the coordinators. I'd be surprised if any bruins commits had changed their minds as a result of these article describing events that happened when they were probably in grade school. Interesting times ahead, any way that you slice it.

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I don't think Neu's checked past is of any concern to these guys.  All they care about is will the team be a good one, will I get playing time, and will I have a shot at playing in the league.

by frak on Feb 5, 2008 10:17 PM PST   0 recs

As for the Oregon guy
I would think an Oregon fan would be the last to complain about ucla's behavior after the way his schools students treated Kevin Love and his family up in Eugene.

by frak on Feb 5, 2008 10:21 PM PST   0 recs

Different arguement
I expect students to do stupid things in the stands.  this is totally different.

by Paragon SC on Feb 6, 2008 5:28 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Just pointing out what is relevant
The Oregon students went way beyond stupid in the stands.  Its a current problem, and all Oregon alumni should be up in arms about stopping it.  This includes ADs, and the basketball coaching staff.  The Neuheisel thing was 7 years ago, and hardly should be the primary concern on an Oregon Duck's mind.  I don't find the revelations in the Seattle Times article relevant to anything that Neuheisel is currently doing.

 The only thing that I can apply it to in regards to USC is the fact that Nestor and some of bruinsnation are being hypocritical when it comes to forgiving their coach for letting players off easy when it comes to breaking the law, and then demonizing coach Carroll for what they perceive as doing the same thing.  Neu has learned his lesson, but Pete must be thrown in NCAA jail.  Its ludicrous.

by frak on Feb 6, 2008 8:50 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Excellent DC !
I've read all the links. Can't believe half of it. I mean I DO believe it, I guess what I'm trying to say I don't want to believe it.

Rickert's take and his links are INSANE!

I sure hope Coach Chow sees some of this. I'm not gonna cry over him being fucla's OC, it's just that he's such a man of integrity, and it's like trying to warn a friend not to hang out with riff-raff. . . . .

Neuheisel's got a good gig. I hope he knows it. I pray the doesn't screw up any more lives.

Can't wait to get our guys on the pitch against his guys. It'll be MASSIVE!

by tapoutstylist on Feb 5, 2008 11:50 PM PST   0 recs

Goodness, gracious. . . . .
. . . .I'm not sure what to write right now. I don't even know if I want to write what I'm about to write.

Rarely does it hit me to get emotional about READING NEWSPAPER stories (a Plaschke here, or there- notwithstanding. He's disposable-tear king!), but the story on Anthony Kelley from UW ?????

OMIGOD! If you're the type of person that likes to read about INCREDIBLE LIVES. This is the story for you. If you like reading about lives that are WONDERFUL and are still evolving. This is the story for you.

Fuck it. I'll just say it.

IT IS A MUST READ! (prolly the ONLY GOOD you'll read about as it applies to Neuheisel. In it, his staff are PRICKS but he ante's up $5K for one of his players as his player pursues academics heights never imagined. In South Africa no less!)

by tapoutstylist on Feb 6, 2008 7:45 AM PST   0 recs

HOPE
all the guys at BN look at slick rick as saint.  I on the other hand HOPE he won't do anything like this again or the program will have to start all over like it's 1919  

by bruin81 on Feb 6, 2008 9:26 PM PST   0 recs

Smart bruin81
I think you'll find most of us here at CC are "cautiously respectful" of what Coach Neu (and his stellar ex-Trojan staff) is doing.

Granted we prolly wouldn't trust him as far as we could throw him, but- for one- hope he succeeds in making our football rivalry one for the ages in years to come. Respect and honor, like what we have with our true rivals in Notre Dame, is something that should be the ideal in this endeavor.

Good for Bruin fans everywhere, even for Nestor and his robotic-minions over at BN. They (BN) deserve
"a saint", and could truly use a conscious sense of a higher-power, because they sure as hell think their shit don't stink while confusing themselves into thinking that God is spelled "Me".

Fight On!

by tapoutstylist on Feb 7, 2008 12:37 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

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