First Cross-town showdown of the basketball season: Open Thread
UCLA Bruins at USC Trojans, Jan 15, 2012 6:00 PM PST
Whoo-boy, when the LA Times preview of this game is, in essence. "these teams aren't very good but maybe the rivalry angle will spice it up," you know you've got a potential barn-burner on your hands.
You can tell because Gus Johnson (apparently popular with basketball fans) has been assigned to do the commentary. Why, just see the enthusiasm in the aforementioned LA Times preview:
Gus Johnson, who will be calling the game for Fox Sports, said that sometimes when two rivals who are used to much greater success play in the down times, the fierceness factor on the court grows.
"It might add more drama," Johnson said Friday. "Guys don't want to be publicly embarrassed losing to their rival.
"At the beginning of a season teams always set goals. Win a signature out-of-conference game, play well in the conference, be above .500 in your conference, whatever it is. And beat the team you have the biggest rivalry against.
"Sometimes, when all those other goals are gone, coaches and players can still circle that particular game, that rivalry game and get the ultimate concentration and performance out of players."
On a brighter note, Harold Miner will be at the game, and his jersey will be retired at the game tonight. Not a bad way for Miner to continue his slow return into the public eye.
Anyway, this is the open thread for all interested participants. Fight On! Beat the Bruins!
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Congrats to Harold Miner!
It’s good that he’s decided to get back in the fold, Fight On!
Props to MG on this.
If the rivalry means anything and if this goes as expected, maybe PH will finally gather up the will to dismiss KO.
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
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Bricks at the line
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how is that not a foul on anderson?
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man this is horrible
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Joey tweet
Neither USC (33.3 percent) nor UCLA (40 percent) shooting particularly well through the first 10 minutes of the first half. Game tied at 9.
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SC getting beat on the rotation
dedmon with 2 fouls
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ANother missed 3...brick
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USC’s Maurice Jones and Dewayne Dedmon are a combined 1-7 from the floor with 7:30 left in the first half. Still 13-9, UCLA
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joey tweet
Familiar script for USC. Trojans struggling to make shots, have converted just 4-of-13 attempts and trail 13-9 with 7:39 left in the half.
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ucla turning it on now
17-10
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no pebetration what so ever just passing it around the perimeter
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Playing the USC gight song during this performance is perplexing
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Since trailing 9-7, UCLA has gone on a 17-1 run and lead by 14 points with 4:29 left in the half. Trojans looked lost defensively, too.
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Garrett Jackson with a 3-point play
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'SC starting to show some grit here
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I don't know if anyone else is here
But I thank you for the updates, Paragon. Live stream is still down.
jesus SC couldn't hit a 3 to save their life...anthoer one short
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USC calls a timeout with 2:18 left in the first half, trailing 30-16
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joey tweet
Game already feels out of hand as Norman Powell knocks down a jumper to give UCLA a 30-16 lead with 2:18 left in the first half.
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Lazeric jones killing SC 35-16
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Shoot. the. fucking. ball.
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37-19 at the half jones drains a 3 at the buzzer
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joey tweet
Not only has USC struggled offensively, its defense has been equally poor. UCLA shot 64 percent from the field in the first half.
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20 minutes until the end of the KO era?
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
Feeling Loco?
Not likely...
KO can’t coach them up or get them to play. some of these guys are avg at best but c’mon….
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Doooooom!
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
Feeling Loco?
Surprised so far-USC is much better than this on D
and UCLA does not have a potent offense. Lot’s of easy looks for the Bruins in the 1st half.
That why I never believed you about this game when we last talked
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I really believed what I said
we have had real problems with quick PG like Jones, but kudos for us-he isn’t getting into the lane and the rest of the team can’t shoot.
Can’t wish you good luck, but best wishes for an injury-free game.
They are too afraid to drive the lane...you see all that passing the ball? no guts to shoot it
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You SHOULD with us luck, maybe then we can lose with some dignity
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
Feeling Loco?
Yeah, we really really do suck.
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
Feeling Loco?
Not going to lie this is the 1st game I have seen SC play this year. This team is bad., have 0 confidence. pass the ball around too much
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I cant see this team win a SINGLE conference game.
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
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YEap...I amtrying to be positive
I mean its not like UCLA are world beaters but they are getting schooled
Feel bad for the kids though…just dont think KO is the answer
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I know USC is a football school and all, and you guys have had a good run the
past few years with NCAA appearances, but I just don’t understand why you don’t make the investment in a top=flight coach. USC has the facilities and the location-you just need a coach to turn it around
We agree...
Haden loves KO because he brings the “right” players
whatever that means…
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Floyd was doing a great job
And the NCAA found he didn’t do anything.
Worst coaching decision the university has made…right up there with hiring Kreuter.
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
yeap
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Mike Garrett sacrificed Floyd in a failed attempt to save his own arse.
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
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by M. AGRIPPA on Jan 15, 2012 7:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
and he paid the price
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as are we
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
Feeling Loco?
So true...
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Another reason why I am glad Garrett is gone from Heritage Hall save for his Heisman.
The Kiffin hire isn’t enough to save his legacy IMO.
by TheViewFromFigueroa on Jan 15, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
true
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Kiffin was not his choice. MG wanted Riley.
Alumni and others were involved in the hire -including PH. Jerry Buss brought out CLK’s Tenn contract.
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
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Then Garrett has even fewer positives to hold on to.
It wasn’t just the Floyd hire. The self-imposed sanctions he threw on the basketball team in the middle of the season was another attempt to save himself and the football program. He failed at both.
by TheViewFromFigueroa on Jan 15, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
Indeed. MG developed bunker mentality and flailed away for two years causing even more damage.
Steve Sample was ill with Parkinsons and incapable of taking on the Athletic Department in the middle of the search for his successor.
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
Feeling Loco?
He was a bit tone deaf as well...oh well
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Nikias couldn't do anything either. He was applying for the BIG JOB and had to back off.
It must have killed him to see what MG was doing and not being in a position to do anything about it. An all out crisis in the middle of a succession. It was indeed a perfect storm.
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
Feeling Loco?
If you think that's all his legacy is
You missed a lot. Water Polo has 10 titles. Women’s Soccer. Men’s tennis has won 3 straight.
Those are all Garrett hires. Pete was a Garrett hire.
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
Daryl Gross was responsible for Pete Carroll. Hell, Pete Carroll was responsible for hiring Pete Carroll!
It was truly a miracle!
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
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Not saying he was a total failure. He just stayed 4 years too long.
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Nice block by dedmon...
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Josh smith is a load and not in a good way
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Since the score was tied at 9-9 midway through the first half, USC has been outscored 34-11
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Lulz
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
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Can't believe anyone is watching that torture...
I will just enjoy the Chipmonks with my 4-year old daughter :)
Not watching SC BBall until they fire that K(L)O(WN)
SC showing some life but not enough
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No boxing out...the Wear's big in the paint
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USC has two 7-footers. Yet, it’s getting outrebounded 33-15, still.
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Just came back from the Galen.
Only reason I went to this exercise in coaching and shooting ineptitude is because of Harold Miner’s number retirement. He made a nice little speech and they brought out his teammates from the early 90s. They also brought out the men’s water polo team and their national championship trophy, as well as the women’s hoops team for their victory over UCLA.
Miner’s bobblehead is pretty sweet too.
by TheViewFromFigueroa on Jan 15, 2012 7:36 PM PST reply actions
HA! You scored the HM bobblehead. That's awesome! :)
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
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Very Cool
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Dude...
That thing is AWESOME!!!
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
Sadly
It will also be the only positive aspect of this season. =/
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
I hope some of you guys got to see HM play.
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
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Before my time
I didn’t become a USC BBall fan ’til my freshman year in ’05.
Nick Young, Loderick Stewart, Taj Gibson, Daniel Hacket and Gabe Pruit my sophomore year.
That team was fun to watch.
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
Those were the days!
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
Feeling Loco?
We've been to the tournament 4 of the last 5 years
But it feels so far away. It’s really a sign of how the basketball program feels under KO.
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
That's because in the last tournament USC made, they were in the First Four.
The only reason SC made that tournament is because of the recent four team expansion. And then they proved that they caught the benefit of that expansion by losing to VCU.
The last real success USC basketball had was the 2009 conference tournament win.
by TheViewFromFigueroa on Jan 15, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
That come from behind win against ASU was one of the greatest moments in USC Basketball history
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
Feeling Loco?
undoubtedly
We had no right to win that game. Floyd ran a full court press for the first time all season. Simmons hustled his ass off and somehow, against all odds, we won.
The last play of the game, Taj Gibson DPOTY in iso vs Derrick Williams OPOTY. God made sports for moments like that.
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
To be fair
VCU was a final 4 team. There’s no shame in losing to them.
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
It's positively jaunty!
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
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50-34 7:40 left
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Will we score 40?
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
Feeling Loco?
i didn't think we would score 25
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Bahahahahahaha!
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
Feeling Loco?
I hate to say it
But we just suck this year.
KO has gotta go.
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
by USCLink on Jan 15, 2012 7:50 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Here's something more fun to watch
The 1993 NBA Slam Dunk Contest, featuring Miner.
There’s some weird, loud hip-hop beat at the start of the video, so turn your speakers down.
by TheViewFromFigueroa on Jan 15, 2012 7:54 PM PST reply actions
LOL
The alley oop pass just goes straight in the basket.’
Better than a shot for us lol.
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Football outscored Men's bball.
50 vs 47.
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
by USCLink on Jan 15, 2012 8:13 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Bahahahahahahahaha!
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
Feeling Loco?
Watching Australian Open...
And the commentator says that Bernard Tomic looks like a TROJAN with the way he is playing.
by TheViewFromFigueroa on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 PM PST reply actions
If you need reassurance that there is SOME success in the USC hoops program.
I refer you to my fanshot on the women’s BBall team.
/shameless plug.
by TheViewFromFigueroa on Jan 15, 2012 8:20 PM PST reply actions









