Memorial Coliseum Renderings
by OCTrojan23 on Jan 13, 2012 6:45 PM PST
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PrintI was doing some research and I found these awesome renderings and models found here and here by Joseph Sandy of what Memorial Coliseum could look like with some USC money thrown in there. These are some exciting times in Troy!
I am beginning to think that USC is modeling itself after University of Pennsylvania - of course with a So Cal twist. Expo Park could be the West Coast version of the new Penn Park.
What do you all think?
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That looks horri-awful
Just because you leave the peristyle alone doesn’t mean you aren’t otherwise defacing an important historical landmark. Please let NFL stadiums be NFL stadiums and the Coliseum stay the Coliseum!
Where's the tunnel?
Oh, Mama, can this really be the end
To be stuck inside of Mobile
With the Memphis blues again
-R. Zimmerman
The renderings/plans wipeout the remaining Olympic pool complex three museums and so on. It looks a architecture school ‘what if everything is on the table and an unlimited budget… none of which is true here. The ‘lease’ arrangements only involve the Coliseum and Sports Arena area. Even if the State follows through on selling the ground under the Coliseum and a few parking lots to SC - the other stake holders in the Park, the museums, school and community center would control more the 2/3 of the area shown in the renderings.
I am agree with FightOn 09 and TheView — it is ‘horri-awful’. It would not fly anyway if you read the proposed master lease provisions along limited control on park holdings. — Thankfully!
by trojanarchitect on Jan 14, 2012 12:14 AM PST reply actions
How would even go about doing those renovations to the seating bowl?
It looks like you’d have to gut the entire interior of the facility, it’d probably be cheaper to build a whole new stadium.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
it is a pipe dream ---
Numero Uno — SC does not control the entire park and honestly I do not think SC would undertake such a project. It has plenty on its plate on Campus and north of campus with the new center at Jefferson/Hoover.
Just looking at the plan if were undertaken it doesn’t appeared to be "phasing" possible. Which means at least a few years without the facility and importantly the "community" without a park in an already ‘park poor’ area.
Also the ‘agreement’ in the works doesn’t call for a wholesale redo of the Park. Its parameters are limited in the proposed agreement. And your right it would be easier and probably more cost effective then to start for the ground up — and then the LA Conservancy would be up to fight it all.
by trojanarchitect on Jan 14, 2012 11:56 AM PST reply actions
I thought it looked cool
but, it appears that this is just a grad students class project at USC. Not something that is under consideration.
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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT
looks very futuresque
USC 2080.
by Joe Trojan on Jan 15, 2012 12:59 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Historically the images ‘futuristic’ buildings especially directly translated from renderings look dated after implemented look dated or just ugly. And ready for public wrecking ball — funny thing about the Expo complex, is that the Sports Arena was when planned and newly opened to be good design and futuristic.
by trojanarchitect on Jan 15, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
Couldn’t agree more! Look at Disney’s Tomorrowland and all the futuristic Brutalist clap trap in L.A. and O.C., only two thoughts come to mind: Ugly and dated. This Coliseum design looks like a giant Jacuzzi at best and a toilet bowl at worst, it also looks cheap.
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futuristic Brutalist clap trap
I like Brutalist architecture, but I recognize I am very much in the minority on that one. But then I don’t mind the fact that it’s dated – there are plenty of uses for which it’s not suited, as well.
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It is well suited for bunkers-----
There are enough examples at SC - Watt Hall, the architecture school being on. It opened when I was in school. The upper classes & grad school were suppose to get the ’new’ building but the students demanded to stay in the old building ‘moderne’ Harris Hall.
Luckily the hall is at least from the outside more human after they added the 3rd floor breaking up the monolith…….
it has its place but rarely was very successful over time……
by trojanarchitect on Jan 15, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Biggest eyesore on the USC campus.
Birnkrant. It’s an ersatz Holiday Inn from the 60’s on a bad trip.
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Or the Continental 'Riot' (Hyatt) House in Weho
Oh, Mama, can this really be the end
To be stuck inside of Mobile
With the Memphis blues again
-R. Zimmerman
Hey I lived there!
Hoffman is the worst building on campus. I.M. Pei’s worst work.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
these soft examples of brutalism........
but but ugly no less…….
by trojanarchitect on Jan 15, 2012 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
Loco my friend we are on the same page. And much of the ballyhooed ‘architecture’ being put up today will not stand the test of time. I find the current semi-industiral clad buildings already making their own appropriate commentary – they are rusting.
The Coliseum needs improvements that goes as a given but has has good bones. I would venture to say the person who did the renderings has probably not spent much time in the park or at a game to understand the various community attachments to the facilities. It strikes me like an Abu Dhabi project – a concept piece without an once of feeling. As corny as it sounds if one does not love a place or have at least a grounded understanding of it the designs rarely mean much to others.
I made a comment to a British friend visiting LA years while we standing on the terrance at the Casino/Avalon Ball Room at Catalina – the what was missing in modern architecture was sense of ‘romance’ of place, because that setting has it. And it was design by the same architects that designed Wrigley Field in Chicago.
The sense of place is not based on style but rather a much visceral feeling.
by trojanarchitect on Jan 15, 2012 10:39 AM PST reply actions
Exactly! Think of how you feel when you walk up to the tunnels with their “Don’t Crowd” signs! I just love those rough concrete surfaces imprinted with the grain of ancient timbers! If they could only remove the crappy fluorescent lamps.
As you walk to the end you emerge into the sunlit bowl! These are the moments we Trojans live for :)
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Maybe replace the deadly fluorescents with HID or pulsating strips….. the tunnel experience is really a great sequence of events -- open the sky - then tight almost foreboding - then emerging into the ‘immense memorial coliseum’…..
I always remember the awe of it — for the first time as a student.
by trojanarchitect on Jan 15, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
I remember walking through the tunnel for the first time
as a kid for the first time in 1958, it was magical….as you mention above, the sequence of events…the awe of a child….something bigger………….walking in the dark………and then at the end of the tunnel………..you enter…………..a new world……….more people than you’ve ever been around………… the pageantry of USC Football………….I was hooked!
Oh, Mama, can this really be the end
To be stuck inside of Mobile
With the Memphis blues again
-R. Zimmerman
Though I had to wait until I was a student at SC, I remenber it exactly the same way!
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you guys as touching my architect’s soul
This ‘experiential’ aspect of architecture, real architecture is rare and should not diminished in meaning. It is exactly how people become attached to a place and why they become become focal points. We at SC are lucky to have the processional walk through campus amongst earlier remarkable buildings through a park loaded some legacy buildings and spaces to an amazing edifice in the Coliseum. It is immediately identifiable on TV or in pictures even from within the confines, a rarity today.
Whether purposefully or not, the architects Parkinson & Parkinson left LA was some stunning works. The Coliseum would be just another bowl without the Peristyle. I am always excited walking by the Peristyle before and after a game in part because of the glimpses into the stadium and hearing the band, the crowd, announcers and the mega-video board at the opposite end. It some way it is like an old movie theatre with a marquee where the show begins on the street.
Too much architecture talk…… egads.
by trojanarchitect on Jan 16, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
Yap I first walked through those tunnels in 1968 when my aunt had Rams season tickets it was Magical to me too.
She had 50 yard line tickets but 3/4 of the way up, but she would never move because of the friends she had around her. I mean it is like a little community everyone knew one another and even did some events outside of the games.
Yes we can't play in a Bowl and that is lucky for the rest of College FB' but next year we at USC will dominate.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 17, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Sounds like a movie short --- Tunnel talk
I remember very clearly a Ram’s game on TV where there was a in the stands chat with Jack Lemmon. He was asked how he felt seating with ‘everyone else’. He said he love just being one the guys in the stands. Of course that was back when celebs did see themselves as ‘so different or special’.
Until recently I had not moved for years because I looked forward to FB season with my ‘Coliseum friends’. It was great while that lasted and now making friends in a new area.
by trojanarchitect on Jan 17, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
What’s your section? I’m in 23, right behind the students
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tunnel 5 -- row 51—— midway between 5 & 6 --
by trojanarchitect on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
I have never been through those tunnels.
Only through the main tunnel!
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Look at this BEAUTY! The only real problem with the Coliseum is that over the years the original plan was destroyed.
The Sports Arena has to go! Look at the surrounding parklands with all those trees! Most of the lost parkland should be returned to near mint condition by installing more underground parking. Additional parking can be built by condemning the lots across the street on Figueroa.
The USC – Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum will rise again!
If a soccer stadium is an absolute necessity, it can be placed on the the corner of MLK and Vermont, on the southwest end of the property.
"That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys." Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
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Great photo..
the other great thing is the Parkinson & Parkinson designed the Coliseum and a number of buildings at SC along Trousdale (University Avenue) including Bovard.
I agree the Sports Arena needs to go… I noticed in the aerial that earlier the PArk did not extend to MLK (Santa Barbara Blvd.); there was another block of businesses.
by trojanarchitect on Jan 15, 2012 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
maybe the landscape around it can be retouched
better reassigning of trees and grass, better placement of parking lots. the coliseum shouldn’t be lumped in with the museums or the arena.
Interesting mock ups...but thats not happening
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