Did the NCAA go easy on Kiffin because of Paul Dee?
by Paragon SC on Aug 29, 2011 8:01 PM PDT
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PrintPaul Dee's hypocrisy has been well documented.
The Sham that is the NCAA has also been discussed until we are blue in the face.
It's clear the NCAA answers to no one, regardless of what some NCAA mouth pieces want you to believe. Mark Emmert pretty much admits that in his interview with the LAT that wrote about earlier today.
But, I read this today...
How bad would the NCAA's committee look in punishing USC's Kiffin when right now, it looks like the NCAA's committee may have had some questionable leadership under Dee when USC's case was finalized.
The NCAA had a PR mess on its hands. It still does. But the raging boil a week ago has today been temporarily reduced to a simmer because Kiffin walked.
He walked because the NCAA had two choices—one was to hammer Kiffin and ostensibly make USC a martyr to even its most ardent haters, the other let Kiffin walk, forget it ever happened and offer no explanation if anyone asks.
Perhaps Pete Carroll was right — maybe the NCAA does have "an agenda."
Last part first...
Yes, the NCAA does have an agenda. That's old news...
I am certainly not an NCAA supporter. But what if the "evidence" of the charges against Kiffin simply wasn't there? People are charged everyday with those charges being dropped or reduced.
Kiffin's "infractions" were no different than any other secondary violation, The NCAA's enforcement staff showed their hand...
If the NCAA hammered Kiffin, based on the tone of the current administration, it is very likely that USC would not have done anything about it.
The lawsuit option, if there ever was one, was off the table a long time ago.
Many would have seen it as piling on and that would be justified, but so what? The NCAA isn't worried about any repercussions, that is backed up by the comments that Mark Emmert has said over and over about each case standing on its own merits.
The Apples vs Oranges defense.
So, were the Paul Dee "revelations" the out the NCAA needed to not pile on Lane Kiffin?
Maybe, we really shouldn't be surprised if that is the case, but so what? So, USC had one go its way for a change. But the damage is already done. If Kiffin was given a show cause he probably would have been let go...but would his departure hurt us any more?
The NCAA is tone deaf over its investigation and enforcement processes, they do what they want and no one is going to change that anytime soon. So, on the one side, part of me agrees with this premise...the other side says that maybe someone on the COI looked at the charges against Kiffin for what they were...nothing.
We'll never know.
But if the former is true, then we should feel lucky that Dee's hypocrisy was exposed, because if Kiffin was hammered there isn't anything this administration is/was willing to do to fight the corruption that clearly permeates the NCAA.
Nikias and Co. have a bigger agenda...a lawsuit with little chance of success (and all the exposure that could come with it) just gets in the way.
That's fine...it's their show.
As I have said before, change only comes from within...unfortunately those who could force change are too worried about having their oats cut off at the NCAA's trough.
So, nothing changes and the NCAA's face saving moves and motivations are left unchecked.
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Even the Vols say what Kiffin did was minor
secondary violations, and they wanted his hide! The NCAA didn’t do USC any favors, they just did what they always do treat secondary violations as secondary violations. It only looks like a favor in light of what was outrageous penalties in the Bush case. As you point out, a show cause just means USC lets Kiffin go, no big deal. The guys is still an unknown, he could be a good coach and he could be a bad one. At worse he is nothing but a short timer anyway. The NCAA has a huge PR problem and letting Kiffin off with the correct penalty isn’t going to change anything. What they do with OSU, UNC and MIAMI will make or break them.
Not even talking about his time at Tennessee (which was hilarious on hundreds of levels), have y’all really not found out if Kiffin can coach or not?
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He had one year with about 65 kids on scholarship
lost a some close games and it seemed like half the second string transfered. Think that is a fair picture of a coach?
by ev on Aug 29, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
So you’re siding on the “good coach” side of the equation?
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Doesn't matter
Personally I’m not sold on him and don’t know many Trojans that are. However it doesn’t matter, the only thing that does is if he can recruit and manage the depth chart. USC in entering the scholarship reductions so the win loss record is secondary for the next three four years. If they are in good shape roster wise coming out, then he has done his job.
by ev on Aug 29, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahhhh. Okay.
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Kiffin had the same record as Urban Meyer last season
Almost everyone would agree that Muschamp is walking into a better situation than Kiffin did. But if Muschamp goes 9-4 or 8-5, do ya think that y’all will really know whether if he can coach or not?
I’d say it takes more than one year. If you dispute that, then apply it to your own tream.
We’ve only got 70 players on scholly. Minus the probation or whatever, it is pretty much the same. Talent..etc. I’m a fan of giving a coach 3 years. But it feels and seems (at least from looking at Kiffin from the outside) that he’s already shown what he can do. The good and the bad.
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I feel Kiffin is a better coach than PC and will have a great year, now that his players have a year under there belt.
At least he isn’t a totalitarian like Urban(what kind of name is that) and that ass they call for a coach at Bama.
Who--What--Slim Shady----the ncaa is after all the BS they are lying out----and just remember they will rewrite history every seven years after the fact. Tennesse will get off with nothing on the violations, but that really doesn't matter they suck anyway.
by so.cal.native1952 on Aug 30, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Better than Pete? Wow. Honestly wasn’t expecting that. But yeah, another year under a system is usually a good thing.
Urban…he is Catholic. So he is named after the many Popes who have been called Urban.
And that is a fantatic description of Satan…I mean Saban.
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Again it doesn't matter
Since the best USC was going to do at that point was a caretaker coach. As for knowing what Kiffin can do, I don’t see how since he hasn’t been anywhere long enough. After all, when USC hired Carroll the track record said it was a mistake and what’s his name at Auburn too. Works both ways.
by ev on Aug 30, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m inclined to agree with ev. I’m actually not as down on Kiffin as some of my fellow alums are, but he’s still got a distance to go as an “in game” coach. But if he’s keeping the team on the straight and narrow, and doing a good job recruiting, that’s probably enough.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
I’ll just say that when he was at Tennessee, he didn’t scare me at all. I was hoping he’d be there 30 years.
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and his recruiting of talent is really unassailable
although keeping them in school is a question. His ’09 class at Tennessee has bombed fantastically, but the ’10 EEs provided three players who started as true freshmen.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 29, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry but this the University of Southern Calif ( a place you all wish you could afford to live) where it takes great grades just to get in.
Who--What--Slim Shady----the ncaa is after all the BS they are lying out----and just remember they will rewrite history every seven years after the fact. Tennesse will get off with nothing on the violations, but that really doesn't matter they suck anyway.
by so.cal.native1952 on Aug 30, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
haha. really?
first of all, multiple people in my family have turned down opportunities to live in the LA area because it’s the last place we wished we could afford to live.
Second, Markeith Ambles.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 30, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
mumm regional rivalries
As some who unfortunately lived in TX from 8th-12th grade, i could not wait to leave the heat, humidity and faux friendliness. I go back once in awhile to see relations there and other ‘truly’ southern states including TN always glad to leave. So we can agree that we prefer where we live, that is based on emotional ties and comfort.
The academics of the schools is not — and CA stomps the entire South. Yes there are a few good schools in the South but not many considering the amount of population of the region when TX is included, but I think we all agree TX is something on to itself.
by trojanarchitect on Aug 31, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
There's your 'rec', right there Champ!
From my mama’s side, I’ve got ton’s of family and relations in the South, read: Deep South! I won’t, nor can’t get into the “comfort” aspects of this side-thread- I’ll just say that although I don’t think I’ve seen anything quite like the physical and natural beauty of many locations in the South, I am quite happy to have been raised in California.
For what it’s worth, although my folks are mainly from Alabama and Arkansas- I don’t think there’s a finer state than the state of Tennessee. Incredible beauty out in those parts, and like I said: I’ve got deep and serious roots in Alabama, and the Alabama Crimson Tide in particular. But, . . . .rivalries aside- Tennessee has some great people and one helluva state. It doesn’t pain me to say that the folks in Tennessee are some of America’s finest.
Still, I’m proud to have been raised in NorCal and more than just very happy to have found my niche’ here in SoCal. USC has changed my life in far more many ways than I ever thought it would or had imagined it would.
by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 31, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
We miss you
hehe
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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT
in my field
my (Southern) school trumps everything in California. And that’s really all that concerns me.
But in general, I’m fine with saying y’all have a great institution. Let’s just not pretend that football players are held to the same standard as everybody else.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 31, 2011 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you don't realize what is going on at USC the Football players are now having to preform in the classroom.
Everything has changed no more easy classes and grades handed to the Football team, I know in the SEC they don’t understand but Stupid is just Stupid. Plus you better have those SEC players check there guns at the gate, because that gang crap is going away across america. Or I forgot about Miami and Oregon.
Who--What--Slim Shady----the ncaa is after all the BS they are lying out----and just remember they will rewrite history every seven years after the fact. Tennesse will get off with nothing on the violations, but that really doesn't matter they suck anyway.
by so.cal.native1952 on Aug 31, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
your responses tend to indicate you'd rather have trolls than actual discussion
but whatever. we’ve actually had things change too, as Tennessee is holding football players to higher standards than many other places (I have no way of knowing how many other places), but I’ll believe that football players are held to the same standards as everybody else when I see it.
And it’s somewhat ironic for you to take shots at me for supporting a school with low standards or gang stuff when your head coach recruited all the guys who’d gotten into trouble. Our next two classes have been quite different.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Sep 1, 2011 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Like I said things are different at USC since PC left, I don't really care what happen at Tenn.
But glad to see your school is working in the right direction, hope your Basketball team follows in suit. After all who wants a Jarvaris Crittentin of Gilbert Arenas in their program, ever notice that how undisciplined Basketball and some FB players are even in the pros. Well good luck with your season and make sure you beat Alabama and Florida, but I feel LSU and Georgia are the cream of the crop.
Who--What--Slim Shady----the ncaa is after all the BS they are lying out----and just remember they will rewrite history every seven years after the fact. Tennesse will get off with nothing on the violations, but that really doesn't matter they suck anyway.
by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 1, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm calling you out dude!
What’s your field? What program is your major? What do you do?
I doubt there is any type of school in Tennessee that is head and shoulders better than any school or program out here in California. So, you’re being called out. Name your school and your class.
by BixBeiderbecke on Sep 1, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Still fabrication, of course.
"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?
That's massively hilarious!
It was so good, I got a sour-beer face going. It took me a second, Professor. I see what you did there, you mixed that shit up real good. (see: my face)
You got 1, 2, 3, . . . . .I might make out 4 different things going on with that awesomeness!
You.Are.Funny!
by BixBeiderbecke on Sep 1, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
if Malik Jackson was second string
that cupboard must’ve been pretty damn full. of course, I’m also a fan of a team that’s been playing with 65 scholarship players, but somehow ours were all freshmen. Still, I’ve seen Malik rated as the #4 DT in the country going into this year.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 29, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Malik was just coming into his own at USC
He was one of many 2nd stringer who would logged major minutes last year and started this one. Really cut the heart out of the depth chart. Considering what was in front of him at USC, no bowls for two years and depth issues, I don’t hold it against most of the kids who left. Didn’t like it, but don’t hold it against them.
by ev on Aug 29, 2011 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The transferring was fine with me. If they don’t want to be Trojans, they can go elsewhere. Each player that left opened up another scholarship for Kiffin to use in his most recent class to help sign a lot of players before the scholarship reductions went in effect. Besides, almost everyone that left wouldn’t have seen much playing time anyways.
I am laughing at Seantrel Henderson though. That’s what you get for letting daddy pick your school. In hindsight, it’s probably for the best he didn’t come to USC. Kid has “NCAA Investigation” written all over him.
Just waiting until September
Plus Henderson would have been an academic headache, stupid is stupid.
Who--What--Slim Shady----the ncaa is after all the BS they are lying out----and just remember they will rewrite history every seven years after the fact. Tennesse will get off with nothing on the violations, but that really doesn't matter they suck anyway.
by so.cal.native1952 on Aug 30, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Seamtrel is about as bright as saw-dust.
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- Seantrel.
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I honestly don't think there's a larger issue at play, WRT the NCAA's findings on Kiffin
It was surprising to find out that the NCAA basically lost it’s balls in hammering Coach Kiffin for his alleged infractions committed at Tennessee. I mean, it’s practically unheard of that- when Enforcement alleges failure to monitor and lack of institutional control charges against a school or a coach, the Infractions Committee normally rubber stamps the whole entire freaking deal. For those defending the charges, they face a major uphill battle in overcoming the allegations. In all honesty, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of any other coach or school getting out of that kind of “deep-shit mess” with the NCAA. Never!
If there ever has been a case where a coach or a school skated, I’d like to know.
Now in saying that, I still don’t think the NCAA truly cares one way or another about USC, nor it’s own public perception. They have a PR problem on their hands, but it has mostly to do with it’s internal workings. USC is the last thing on their minds, I’m sure. They’re catching some shit regarding us, but they are mostly catching shit for simply being inconsistent in their interpretations and rulings- as well as facing allegations of fast-becoming irrelevant, in the grand scheme of college athletics. And the game of football is the sport that will more than likely lead to it’s ultimate downfall.
by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 29, 2011 10:10 PM PDT reply actions
Okay, I don't know who this Ronnie Ramos is?
But what he wrote in his Twitter comment is just a bald-faced lie!
“. . we’re accountable to schools such as USC, they literally make the rules”.
Like I said in a previous thread, who created NCAA Bylaw 32.10.4.1? The Appeals Committee at the NCAA created AND interpreted it, that’s who. It didn’t go through the proper channels, such as the normal Bylaw amendment procedure. Which is a long, drawn out process taking at least a year or two to be considered, vetted, and passed by all member institutions. This was fast-tracked through during the Dee years. (if you ask me, it was specifically passed BECAUSE of Paul Dee. he’s a grade-A prick and the Appeals Committee basically gave themselves discretion to rely upon or use judicial case law as a basis for determining a formulaic test (like a standard or review) for a finding of an abuse of discretion (by the Committee on Infractions) in the pursuant to Bylaw 32.10.4.1. For the first time in it’s history, the NCAA gave it’s own committee “interpretive power”, when- for the longest time, the NCAA operated under Bylaw 5.4.1.1 (which gives interpretive power solely to Board of Executives and the Legislative Council (member institutions).
When was this appeals committee amendment passed? In January 2008, right smack dab during Paul Dee’s watch. Oh, and Jo Potuto was on board with this too.
Ronnie Ramos’ ass is sucking wind and out of his mouth is complete bullshit!
by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 29, 2011 11:41 PM PDT reply actions
Lane Kiffin is a wunderkind
Kiffin is arguably the best OC as an HC in the country. He has markedly improved every team that he has coached. Focus on the offensive improvement in yards and scoring under Kiff vs. the prior year:
USC 2004 (Norm Chow as OC)
Record: 13-0
Scoring: 38.2 ppg
Total offense: 5838 yards
Offensive TDs: 61
USC 2005 (Lane Kiffin as OC)
Record: 12-1
Scoring: 49.1 ppg
Total Offense: 7537 yards
Offensive TDs: 83
Raiders 2006 (Art Shell)
Record: 2-14
Scoring: 10.5 ppg
Total Offense: 3939 yards
Offensive TDs: 12
Raiders 2007 (Lane Kiffin)
Record: 4-12
Scoring: 17.7 ppg
Total Offense: 4717 yards
Offensive TDs: 28
Tennessee 2008 (Phil Fulmer)
Record: 5-7
Scoring: 17.3 ppg
Total offense: 3225 yards
Offensive TDs: 22
Tennessee 2009 (Lane Kiffin)
Record: 7-6
Scoring: 29.3 ppg
Total offense: 4985 yards
Offensive TDs: 47
USC 2009 (Jeremy Bates as OC)
Record: 9-4
Scoring: 26.5 ppg
Total offense: 5058 yards
Offensive TDs: 40
USC 2010 (Lane Kiffin as HC)
Record: 8-5*
Scoring: 31 ppg*
Total Offense: 5609 yards
Offensive TDs: 48
*Sanctions declared, AD resigned, President changed, Kiff hired in Jan
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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT
by DFWTrojan on Aug 30, 2011 9:48 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Wow
That’s actually quite impressive. Didn’t realize how much of an impact he has. Seems like Kiffin is worth an extra TD +- per game.
Any chance you’re willing to follow up and check the offense of the years after he left?
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while those numbers are generally impressive
you have to note that in two of those four situations, he was following the “can’t possibly get any worse” season. The 2008 Tennessee team was the worst offense the Vols have had in my lifetime. Anybody would’ve made them better. And when the Raiders are scoring 10 points per game, I have to imagine they were in a similar situation.
Of course, that does’t say anything against the other two improvements, and it’s still a strong track record.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 30, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
coach doesn't get to pick his situation
He plays the hand he is dealt
Kiffin had a few issues last season he has turned things around wherever he has gone
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by Paragon SC on Aug 30, 2011 11:40 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm not disagreeing with that point
but when Boise State beats Georgia, TCU, Wyoming, and UNLV, people won’t be saying “wow! look at four great wins!” they’ll be saying “they have two nice wins and just took care of business as usual in the other two.” This is how I view Kiffin’s OC resume.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 30, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
at least for the Tennessee case
the Vols averaged 27 points per game in 2010 with five true freshman starting on offense in a year in which they had to replace their QB, RB, and all five linemen. That’s still 10 points per game better than 2008. Kiffin was 12 points per game better than 2008, which is about what I would expect for a competent coach. There were times when he looked like the best thing since sliced bread (putting up 45 on Georgia) and times where he frustrated the hell out of us (putting up just 15 in a loss to UCLA and not trying for the end zone late against Alabama).
That’s the only place I’ve seen him in person, so that’s all I can comment on. That season was enough to encourage us but not enough to convince us. The numbers at Southern Cal were improvements from stronger starting points, so if y’all saw something there, I’m not trying to argue. Just giving my $.02 on the only season I saw up close.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 30, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Jonathan Crompton
if you followed the Vols closely, then you must admit that the improvement of the QB from beginning to end of season was simply amazing. That’s all Lane Kiffin, bro.
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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT
Remember how I said
that he did some things that made him look like the best thing since sliced bread?
Jonathan Crompton was foremost among those things (I mentioned 45 against Georgia—they were his 45). His transformation was definitely the best thing that happened to our offense that year. And if all he can do is develop a QB, that’s a worthwhile thing to do.
I’m not trying to say there’s nothing good to take from his tenure at Tennessee. Just that you can’t just say “wow, they improved by more than a touchdown per game, he must’ve been wonderful!” I think Crompton’s personal statistics say a whole lot more than the ppg statistics.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 31, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a rec Tex.
Nice work, the numbers don’t lie. FACTS NOT FEELINGS!
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U feeling Loco?
Solid data, but I can’t give Kiffin credit for the difference between 2004 USC and 2005 USC. That huge jump would have happened no matter who was the OC. Leinart, Bush, White, Jarrett, Smith and Byrd with one more year under their belt = one of the best offenses of all time, regardless of who is calling plays.
Just waiting until September
but you can't argue that he has improved every team
that he has taken over. The big question is his long term impact. There is no stats to show us how he will perform in the long run. For example Rick Neuheisel, up until he was hired at ucla, had a great short term record, then his teams would tank. I know that things are cyclic in college football, and teams can’t stay on top forever, but it will be interesting if Kiffin manages to do no worse than 8-9 wins over the course of the sanctions. That would be impressive to me if he could have that level of success. Anything more than 9 wins would be spectacular and should be enough to silence his critics.
nice one Dallas
Who--What--Slim Shady----the ncaa is after all the BS they are lying out----and just remember they will rewrite history every seven years after the fact. Tennesse will get off with nothing on the violations, but that really doesn't matter they suck anyway.
by so.cal.native1952 on Aug 30, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Miami finally gets their due......
Four other players must repay small amounts, all under $100, but will not miss any games.
“They understand that their actions demand consequences,” Miami athletic director Shawn Eichorst said.
Oh……..so let me dig $50.00 out of my pocket and satisfy the NCAA.
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by DevilishTrojan21 on Aug 30, 2011 4:06 PM PDT reply actions
Well I don't know if the ncaa has an agenda, but I know from experience they think highly of themselves.
The truth is that the ncaa is run by professors (you know the guys that think there shit doesn’t stink) on the take for a higher than god salary and more power with no repercussions. But I really will never understand how to change all of this mess, other than pure outright (Zulu Tribe-mans) war with heads cut off and stuck on poles (please add 80% of government politicians) this about the only way to have order.
Who--What--Slim Shady----the ncaa is after all the BS they are lying out----and just remember they will rewrite history every seven years after the fact. Tennesse will get off with nothing on the violations, but that really doesn't matter they suck anyway.
by so.cal.native1952 on Aug 30, 2011 6:02 PM PDT reply actions
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