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Dan LeBatard makes me laugh

I have always got a kick out Dan LeBatard.

I agree with him on some things and disagree with him on others...nothing earth shattering there, that is just how life is. But for the most part I have always respected his wit and insight, even if I didn't agree with him.

LeBatard is also an unabashed Miami homer.

That's fine, LeBatard attended the school during its heyday, just like Yahoo! Radio's Todd Wright and ESPN's Bruce Feldman.

All three saw the program up close, so they know where a lot of bodies are buried.

They are well versed in the lore of the U.

This morning LeBatard makes the point that there is a lot of noise and not a lot substance when discussing the current situation at the U.

The demand for facts tends to be directly proportional to your own proximity to allegations and consequences. Something is really unfair, too often, only when it happens to you. Sports noise is usually more emotional than it is empathic or nuanced, so people take sides, believing absolutes, even though the truth is rarely found in the extremes. UM is either contaminated and corrupt at the core, totally out of control and in need of death. Or the unfair, evil media is conspiring with this snake scum to fly planes into UM’s buildings.

Funny...

LeBatard was one of those that excoriated USC when our sanctions were announced, but now he wants the "noise" tamped down so that the facts can determined.

I highly doubt LeBatard read any of the documents pertaining to USC and the COI. If he had, the question I would ask is do you think the NCAA made its case? Did they stretch things to make the story fit their narrative?

LeBatard wants to blame the system...is he going to lead the charge?

This is the same NCAA that will ultimately stand in judgment of the U.

They were unchecked then...does anyone think things have changed?

I would love to see Paul Dee put through the exact same process that Todd McNair or Mike Garrett went through. Make no mistake, Dee will have to appear. But because the NCAA is corrupt his attendance will be but a footnote...nothing of substance will come of his testimony, even though you can use his own words against him.

The fix is in and the good 'ole boy network will look out for their own.

I find it hilarious that LeBatard demands that we ignore the 'noise while searching for the true facts in regards to Miami when he was one of those voices making 'noise' without having really looked at the details in regards to USC.

Towards the end of the article LeBatard details many of the ills that have befallen The U over the years. He notes that those transgressions didn't take The U down back then...is he insinuating that this latest episode won't take them down either?

Must make him proud...

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Dunce LeRetard has it all wrong (go figure?)

The NCAA doesn’t need to “prove” anything. All they need are allegations and a narrative. Fuck testimony. Fuck evidence. Fuck facts. The NCAA doesn’t need shit, what’s needed in an NCAA investigation is one thing: a cozy relationship with the NCAA.

Everything changes with THAT type of relationship.

by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 21, 2011 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Also, you've gotta love the gratutious

9/11 metaphor in that passage you quoted…

"Guess what? I AM THE MANAGER."

by sasmall on Aug 21, 2011 11:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Not that I like the Reggie Bush etc stuff

but you guys are looking better by the month. I’m waiting for players to bet on games next with the help of the coaches and administration somewhere.

by scotty256 on Aug 22, 2011 1:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Betting? Coaches & Players?

Dang boy, you have an active imagination! What you SHOULD be waiting for is some semblance of a championship season. Just sayin’. BCS Bowl invite, perhaps?

by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 22, 2011 9:12 AM PDT reply actions  

I would...

…except we both know the betting scandal’s going to hit somewhere long before the BCS thing :(

by scotty256 on Aug 23, 2011 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's the spirit!

I’m totally out of the loop, though? (what’s new, it happens to me too much).

What, if any, betting scandal is taking shape? Where, and with which program?

Riley is my second-favorite coach in the Pac 12, I hope it’s not happening in Corvallis! And if it’s happening here in LA- than I hope it’s happening to Le Conte Tech (aka: fUcla).

by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 23, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

No, I haven’t heard of anything like that going on anywhere. I just meant that with first the USC drama, then the Cam Newton drama, then the Ohio State drama, then this incredible Miami story… Schools just like to outdo themselves! It’s like a contest almost.

USC: We’re gonna give some improper bennies.

Auburn: Oh yeah? We’re gonna pay 180k for a cheater from Florida!

tOSU: Pfft, big deal! We’re going to completely lie on the infractions form, let players hang out with drug dealers, make a joke of the university pres, and pee all over our sweater-vested image!

Miami: Boys, boys, that’s all kiddie stuff. Bring in the booze, hookers, bribes, yachts, agencies, and abortions!

(legal disclaimer: all allegedly of course :p )

So I’m just waiting for someone else to come along and top the latest!

by scotty256 on Aug 24, 2011 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too freaking funny!

Let’s not forget about the Pac 10’s favorite guitar bandit: Jeremiah Masoli! The dude is a screenwriters’ fantasy boy! The folks in my family can raise some serious Cain, but J-Mas takes the freaking ca-. . . . .laptop!

With Miami, I was all, “Bitches, booze, bling, pshaaaaaaaaw! Now, ABORTIONS? That’s straight ghettoville!” Sersly, errbody- ain’t nobody can get up on those Miami playas. Them boys be bangin’ it big!

Before the angel’s of death at Yahoo came out against Miami, I was hoping it would be against Auburn. I’m cool with it, though.

by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 24, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems that Lebatard know nothing about the law...

http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2011/08/dan-lebatard-never-took-evidence.html

Dan LeBatard of the Miami Herald is not a lawyer. But I often complain that when the mainstream media tries to talk about law, they invariably get it wrong. Today, LeBatard tried to urge patience as allegations swirl around UM’s football team, with some genuinely incoherent comments about law.

First, he says that “Circumstantial evidence is not actual evidence.” Umm, yes, it is. We know that, because, as a blogger for The Big Lead says, it says “evidence” right there in the phrase. And in any event, the evidence against UM is not circumstantial. Someone with firsthand knowledge (Shapiro) is stating the things he did (giving players money and other gifts, etc.) and those things violate NCAA rules. That is as direct as evidence can get.

Later, LeBatard says “precious little of what we’ve seen amid this noise so far can be considered truth, evidence, facts.” Again, this is wrong on many levels. What we have been hearing are, indeed, facts—assertions or propositions about events that have happened in the world (e.g., “I gave money to UM football players”). And it is evidence—information by someone with knowledge offered to establish the truth of those assertions or propositions. Is it truth? That we do not know (although each of us is free to reach our own conclusions for now) and that ultimately will be for some fact-finder, whoever it turns out to be. But doubting the truth of facts does not mean they are not facts; disbelieving some evidence does not mean it is not evidence.

And we all know the NCAA evidence threshold is WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY lover than our judicial system…

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by Paragon SC on Aug 22, 2011 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

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