Keep Talking Mr. Dee...
You can't make this stuff up.
If there is justice in the world, Paul Dee's own words will come back to haunt him...
Former University of Miami athletic director Paul Dee said Friday he is "absolutely sickened’’ by the allegations facing the Hurricanes, urged everyone involved to tell the truth, and conceded that Nevin Shapiro, the incarcerated booster at the center of the scandal, "should have been on our radar.’’
The only issue they had with Shapiro, Dee said, is that "he kept promising gifts he didn’t deliver.’’ Also, he rubbed football coach Randy Shannon the wrong way, to the point that Shannon warned his players about Shapiro. Dee admits that should have been a red flag.
Again..."SHOULD. HAVE. KNOWN."
This is what he said to USC, this is pretty much what he said to Long Beach State.
The more Dee talks the worse it gets...
Dee said Shapiro never asked for anything extraordinary, and was treated like all the other boosters who made substantial donations. He was given sideline passes for a few football games a year, but that is a common courtesy.
"It is not an unusual request for a trustee or booster to ask for a field pass,’’ said Dee, who served as chairman of the NCAA Infractions Committee. "I’ve had trustees take their kids down there to get photos before a game, boosters down there for pre-game warm-ups, those are little favors we did for the people who supported our program and it has never burned us before....
Sounds like the same sort of atmosphere that was on the USC sideline...the same atmosphere that "troubled" the committee and that has led to practices being closed and sidelines at games looking like a ghost town.
I mean its not like Shapiro was running a black-op. According to the Feds all the signs were there...
Gil Childers, who was a part of the New Jersey prosecution team that investigated Shapiro's $930 million Ponzi scheme, told NBC Miami that the recent allegations that have surfaced about UM were not new news to him and that Shapiro's connections to the university were not that hard to find.
"We did reach out to the university and that did include some people who were directly involved in the Athletic Department," Childers said.
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Childers said he wasn't allowed to name any names but that some players may have also been interviewed who may have taken gifts and money from Shapiro.
He also said they were ready to call in former and current players to bolster their case against Shapiro.
Let that last sentence sink in for a moment...
Remember how the NCAA was waiting for Reggie Bush's deposition in Lloyd Lake's lawsuit?
Well, if the NCAA waits long enough for these interviews, they will have an iron clad case against Miami and Paul Dee will be even more humiliated.
Dee is boxing the NCAA into a corner with his constant chin wagging.
Can't wait to see Dee walk into the COI with his attorney to answer for his lack of oversight.
Should have known...
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I think so lowly of Paul Dee that, . . . . . . . .
. . . . . it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he chooses to be uncooperative to this Miami-investigation. The guy is a dirtbag and the only thing impressive about him is his lack of shame.
All signs point to him being an uber-prick, and so considering he has very intimate knowledge about the ins- and outs of NCAA enforcement- I’m sure he’ll find a way to legally keep himself out of harm’s way. It would be the only way to help to soften the blows that are sure to hit Coral Gables Funhouse U.
by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 20, 2011 9:48 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I am "troubled" by the atmosphere surrounding the football program in Coral Gables
But, Paul Dee walking into the COI will be a farce. They will almost certainly treat their former colleague w/ kid gloves. The foxes who guard the henhouse stick together.
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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT
Now that he's in Miami. . . . . . .
. . . . I’m wondering if Reggie Bush will FINALLY TALK TO Paul Dee?
Shit! Now that I think about it, Reggie Bush DID THIS TO the Miami Hurricane program. Without Reggie Bush, no way Paul Dee gets this type of guff from people.
No. Way!
by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 20, 2011 10:06 AM PDT reply actions
"Dee said Shapiro never asked for anything extraordinary"
Let’s see, offering to pay $1 million to coach the team for a year, not extraordinary????
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Talk about a "troubled" environment...
Dee said of USC:
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“The general campus environment surrounding the violations troubled the committee. At least at the time of the football violations, there was relatively little effective monitoring of, among others, football locker rooms and sidelines, and there existed a general postgame locker room environment that made compliance efforts difficult.”
But at the U:
Dee said Shapiro never asked for anything extraordinary, and was treated like all the other boosters who made substantial donations. He was given sideline passes for a few football games a year, but that is a common courtesy.
Seems like Miami got what it asked for. If someone wanted access to their future NFL players, all they had to do was give money to the U. And guess what…a guy who was both booster and agent did exactly that, and epic violations followed. Can’t think of better phrases to characterize the practices at Miami than those that Dee used to describe USC…“little effective monitering” and an “environment that made compliance efforts difficult”. If nothing else, where was the “high-profile compliance” for Miami’s “high profile players”?
Dee is abolutely right. There were “red flags”, Shapiro “should have been on their radar”, and Miami “should have know” about the violations. It seems impossible that Miami wouldn’t have know about violations if they’d checked. Heck, half of the coaching staff did know about the violations…and they had their eyes closed.
love the choice of bold print for “all the other booster”
what does this potentially say about the other boosters at miami u?
by Quacker Backer on Aug 20, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a thread on SCPlaybook...
that suggests Shapiro might name 3 more boosters who were providing beneifts. I wouldn’t buy it until I see the link, but it wouldn’t surprise me either. Bottom line is that if you’re going to allow boosters to mingle with athletes, these types of thing can happen. Any fool should knows that…let alone a AD and compliance director. And if you’re going to demand that one school moniter it, then you need to hold all schools of similar profile to the same standard…and same punishment for failure to do so. Miami could not possibly have been monitering Shapiro’s interactions with players, and Dee admits as much.
Free Agency
Super. Now when Miami goes down for all of this Blake Ayles will be eligible to transfer right back to USC. He’ll be the only college player to transfer twice in less than 2 years and then he can say he did something significant in college football.
i love the paul dee revelations!!!! keep them coming.
is anyone aware if charges can be brought on dee? with the right evidence i would think some kind of conspiritory issues, interference with due process as well as corruption charges could be brought to the ncaa or civil courts. Anyone a specialist on this catagory of law?
schadenfreude and other dishes best served cold
So whatever is the poor embattled NCAA ever to do? Do they take the (gospel) word of yet another ex-con and so filet one of their own in the process?… and it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Or do they once again concoct a brand new improvisation of inaction and/or injustice therein refueling the copious arguments against the “one-off” “collector’s item only” ruling new being enforced against USC? I mean you gotta love it… only the mixture of the NCAA and a few ex-cons could make Congress look good.
trojanWar
by trojanWar on Aug 20, 2011 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Didn’t matter that Lloyd Lake was a scumbag, shouldn’t matter that Nevin Shapiro is a scumbag. Dee and his merry band of investigators didn’t give a damn about Lake’s credibility (even after it was proven he lied to the NCAA) so there’s no reason to think twice about anything Shapiro says.
But unfortunately, that’s assuming the NCAA knows what the words “precedent” and “fair” means. I have no doubt they will treat Dee as a good ole boy.
Just waiting until September
After reading that "All About the U" linked article once more.....
.. . . I"m left wondering: Where’s Coach Randy Shannon in all this? Didn’t he get fired for doing well over there in Miami?
As I said, in the article, the guy points out that a big gap in Shapiro’s “influence” with Miami football players starts and ends with Coach Shannon telling his coaches and players to stay far away from Shapiro. Then doesn’t Shapiro even admit as much with Robinson and Wetzel?
Dee is up shit creek if ex-Coach Shannon spills his guts out to NCAA Enforcement. What if Shannon TOLD DEE and HOCUTT that he thought Shapiro was punkass prick and warned them of his coziness with players and coaches?
This wouldn’t make it a “should have known” investigation- this would make it a willful violator investigation.
Dee hung USC from the highest sanctions pole. He was “jealous” of us, as Mike Garrett said, and he couldn’t fairly poke holes in USC’s defense of having difficulty monitoring LaMarr Griffin out in San Diego-area. USC should have definitely been held accountable for Bush, no two ways about it. But from back in ’04? No way.
Dee hit us where he and the NCAA knew it would painfully hurt us. Our championship season. That was way uncalled for.
Now look at Paul Dee and his Hurricane program. I hope Randy Shannon reams Dee a new asshole. That fatfuck has a huge crack in his, he needs a new one.
When I think of...
“athletic” director, I have a different vision in my mind than that of Paul Dee. However, when I think of people who are still upset at the decision in Brown v. Board of education……….
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by DevilishTrojan21 on Aug 20, 2011 10:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

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