Andy Staples thinks tOSU already got hammered....right
by Paragon SC on Aug 15, 2011 5:37 PM PDT
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PrintI like Andy Staples.
He does some pretty good writing...I met him once, but I doubt he remembers the encounter in NYC last summer.
That being said he confuses me here.
He wrote this back in May.
The IAC and the Committee on Infractions, which originally levied the penalties 11 months ago, have backed the NCAA into a corner now. By finally detonating the bomb they dropped on USC's program, they have sent a message that comparable future cases will be handled similarly. If the committees -- with membership that changes annually -- do apply the precedent they set with USC, they might just send a message to schools that cheating truly won't be tolerated. If they don't, then the NCAA will be guilty of exactly what Cartman's line implies: that the governing body of college sports, a many-headed hydra run by hundreds of schools with differing interests, is simply making everything up as it goes along.
He was right on the latter...
The NCAA is corrupt and incapable of governing college sports. Just look at this past weekends Texas A&M to the SEC debacle. The NCAA is incapable to stop the change that is coming.
Staples then wrote this over the weekend...
Judging by the brevity of the meeting -- USC's hearing took three days; Ohio State's took about four hours -- that strategy worked. Though a July 13 letter from the NCAA's enforcement staff to the Committee on Infractions reveals that the NCAA will keep digging at additional allegations of impropriety, Ohio State may have dodged serious sanctions from the violations that stuck the first time around.
Because of that, everyone outside Columbus will say the Buckeyes got off light. They'll say the NCAA allowed Ohio State to skate because it is a favored program.
That simply isn't correct.
Even if the COI doesn't strip the Buckeyes of a single scholarship, Ohio State got hammered. How? Because this scandal forced Ohio State to jettison Jim Tressel.
Really?
Without the loss of schollies or a post season ban tOSU may hit a minor bump in the road, but that is nothing like the IED that USC experienced.
We lost Pete Carroll right before the sanctions were announced...and his departure may have cost us some recruits. So, yes, losing a popular coach does have an immediate effect. Even with Lane Kiffin coming in we probably still lost out on a few guys.
You are free to state your opinions as to why PC left, but the his departure definitely hurt.
Then the "bomb was detonated".
In the short term, USC like tOSU will not miss a beat on the recruiting trail. These programs do sell themselves.
But USC's recent gains will be short lived as the chess match begins with the loss of those 30 scholarships.
USC has to be that much more picky. They can't miss....depth will become an issue.
tOSU, on the other hand, won't miss a beat. If things stay as they are tOSU won't have the same concerns that USC is facing.
Even with Tressel gone, tOSU doesn't have to be as choosy with their recruits as USC has to be. tOSU can still sell the post season experience because it would appear that the Buckeyes won't get a post season ban. And if tOSU's interim coach fails, Ohio State is a plum enough job with some minor sanctions...imagine what it will look like without ANY major sanctions.
Like I said, I like Andy Staples work...but he is really missing it on this. tOSU will get off easy, a lot easier than just loosing a successful, corrupt coach.
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Without getting into whether or not the punishment you got was justified, the inconsistency of action, and absurd explanations for the inconsistency by the NCAA is simply unbelievable.
There’s no reason for there to be such a disparity in how the NCAA responds. Yes, individual cases may have mitigating circumstances that merit some difference in reaction, but how the NCAA can levy sanctions in one case, and then completely avoid any action in another is just astounding.
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by SoCal Oski on Aug 16, 2011 11:27 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT
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U feeling Loco?
USC was penalized for what they did on the field...
as much as they were for what they did off the field. That’s just my opinion, and it’s not a pleasant one. But that doesn’t mean that there isn’t some truth to it.
At the time of the USC case, the power core of CFB did not include the Pac-10 (stil doesn’t). The one member on the COI from the Pac-10 (Oregon) recused himself…not that a west coast school would have championed equitable treatment for USC anyway. Mike Garret was right. The NCAA is made up of univeristy presidents around the country who were tired (and jealous!) that a west coast program was dominating a sport so vital to the collective self-esteem of the southeastern and midwestern US. There was a very powerful and unified desire to tilt the field against USC…whether they deserved it or not.
Now…take tOSU. Despite all of Jim Tressel’s remarkable success, tOSU was a whipping boy to the SEC on the national stage…much to the satisfaction of the most powerful men in the NCAA. There is currently no movement among them to extract a pound of flesh from tOSU because after all, CFB is important to the midwest, and tOSU has stayed in its place. Just for fun…imagine if tOSU had been on the delivering end of the beat downs that defined its last two NCG appearances. Imagine: OSU 41, Florida 14. OSU 38, LSU 24. And what if tOSU was pulling elite recruits out of the backyards of SEC country …showing them up with speed, flash, and charisma? Very likely, tOSU would be in the sites of the good ‘ol boys in the NCAA who seek power to abuse it. But…the fact that it’s hard to even imagine tOSU thumping the elite SEC schools works to tOSU’s advantage. Staples may be right…tOSU losing its best hunt’n dog may be punishment enough. And if that isn’t in the NCAA manual, then they can always right it in as they go.
seriously?
losing your coach is almost always a result of cheating. To say that that in and of itself is a sufficient punishment is somewhat ludicrous
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