In the face of their own bylaws, the NCAA clears Pryor mentor Sarniak in '08
by Paragon SC on Jul 29, 2011 5:35 PM PDT
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Even with the evidence right under their noses the NCAA looked the other way in the face of their own bylaws...
The records show the NCAA ruled in favor of Sarniak, a hometown friend who went with Pryor on several recruiting visits.
"Our staff could not conclude that the benefits provided by (Sarniak) to the prospective student-athlete constituted a violation," the NCAA's Amy Huchthausen wrote in a letter dated Sept. 17, 2008, to Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith.
However, Sarniak was told to he could no longer provide money, meals, tickets, presents or a cell phone to Pryor.
Really?
What would you call the items listed given to Pryor?
So, the NCAA says in one breath that Sarniak's relationship with Pryor is kosher and in the next they say he can no longer provide the extra benefits listed above.
If the benefits aren't an issue then why would the BCAA say that Sarniak can no longer provide said benefits?
Not surprising that this is how the NCAA thinks...they have had it ass-backwards from the word go.
Also, not surprising is the fact that tOSU fought hard to keep this information out of the public eye...
The records released by Ohio State on Friday had been sought by The Associated Press sought through a public records request earlier this spring. But Ohio State's Office of Legal Affairs declined then to release the records because it said doing so would mean giving up information without the student's consent.
Since Pryor is no longer a student, that reason was nullified.
Special treatment? Cronies looking out for one another?
I can see why the conference commissioners are vocally saying that things need to change.
Chaos!
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AMAZING!!!!!
From now on think USC needs to have someone to “grease” on the NCAA Board cause its working for tOSU
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
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Terrell Pryor was the highest profile recruit of the decade
Yet, neither the NCAA or tOSU was gave him ‘high profile compliance’. “High profile players demand high profile compliance” is a principle that the NCAA uses to hammer programs that it wants to take down, yet not one that it can live by when it comes to the NCAA itself…or its friends.
+1000, Jag
This is what takes the red off my lollipop, in this whole mess.
tOSU is supposed to have this fantastic compliance department that self-reports EVERYTHING! The argument goes, tOSU is so far better at compliance issues that it’s ridiculous for anyone to compare their case with ours. Here’s the punchline though: it seems all tOSU people WANT TO DO is compare our two programs. Why? I figure it’s because of two things: the first is the all-‘round garden variety inferiority complex. The other: to make themselves feel better about themselves that they have 7 guys in compliance (who couldn’t monitor Columbus, O-freaking-HIO) and we had 1, sometimes 2 people in compliance.
All tOSU had to do was monitor 1 high profile player and one “rogue” coach who was some sort of saint in many of their eyes. Then, the NCAA gives them a pass because “players weren’t properly educated” (what happened to those guys in compliance?). And THEN, and then- the NCAA somehow doesn’t find fault with 370-something secondary violations, 6 ineligible players playing the entire year and stealing a BCS bowl win from Arkansas, and a coach who knowingly deceived them.
I cannot believe any of this. Good on tOSU- they’ve got Julie Roe Lach bamboozled. They’ve got Emmert sucking Gee’s bowtie. And the NCAA finds that they ABSOLUTELY DO NOT HAVE ANY CLOTHES.
If you want to walk the heavenly streets of gold, you gotta know the password, "Roll, tide, roll!"
by BixBeiderbecke on Jul 30, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
This guy Sarniak
sounds a lot like Guillory. The most damning piece of evidence against Mayo was the phone that belonged to Guillory was answered by Mayo when you called it. Now this Sarniak guy is ok providing all of this stuff to Pryor. Its pure hypocrisy. The NCAA obviously doesn’t care about any sort of message that they are sending here about letting OSU off the hook. If they were concerned, they wouldn’t have done it in the first place. Oh well, we got hosed, and will continue to get hosed. Get used to it.
The NCAA is sending exactly the message that they intend to...
Schools that threaten the NCAA power core will be hammered, and those that are connected with the NCAA power core will be protected. Let’s face it, this is only sports we’re talking about. So the intimidation tactics of the NCAA do not merit comparison to other similar historic instances of corruption and abuse of power. The agenda of the NCAA is merely to convey competitive advantages to certain teams and conferences, and to convey competitive disadvantages to others. Basically, they cheat, and they are an institution which is out of control. But they answer to no one. As Frak said, our only recourse is to get used to it.
Message sending, eh?
Apart from the NCAA’s obvious favoritism towards tOSU’s athletic program, what makes this whole mess even slimier is the ignoramus fan-base of the Buckeyes. There are many words that might describe these people- but lemme just say it like this.
One word: provincial!
Some of these people actually think they know how to interpret the historical judgments the past and present NCAA COI committees have handed down- as if they can correctly translate their madness. First of all, most people are first and foremost to declare that the NCAA “is no court nor courtroom”. Therefore, they are not beholden to due process laws and procedures as we know it. Yet, when they get their grubby little minds wrapped around OUR (USC’s) case- they recite and formulate a psuedo-intellectually defined analysis of our situation. Small minds, think like this. “USC doesn’t deserve ‘due process’, but HOT DAMN EVERYBODY! They got what they deserved, the sanctions are just!” (yeah turnip boy! where’s the truck you fell off of? find it, and GO AWAY!!)
Secondly, (for tOSU fans) the whole shock and awe of having to witness their near-perfect-coach-in-every-way-possible taking a major face-plant in lieu of his complete mismanagement of his star player and vaunted team puts these asshats in a severely depressed state to the point of being “NCAA fundamentalists”. Having said that, these people actually believe that they can correctly perceive the way the NCAA works and how it should work. Regretfully, in this strange predilection of theirs- there is practically no room for self-awareness. Fuck that! They’re too comfortable in their f_cked up world of self-worship!!!!
These Buckeyes, for the most part, have all of the sudden become blustering NCAA specialists and experts, which is to say- that they’re a fanbase rooted in a Midwestern simplistic culture of mindless athletic fanaticism. Past precedents, historical corruption, cronyism, facts and lies, truth and fiction, are the least of their concerns. They trade insults and clichés like cartoon characters- or. . . . teenage vid-kids.
Having any sort of valuable discussion between any other fanbase and a Buckeye- it seems, becomes a sterile and useless debate between bizarre subsets of American culture. It’s football for Gosh Darn Sakes! It doesn’t have to be some thing having to do with tokens? (I kid you not, those are some seriously demented folks over at the SB Nation site for Buckeyes) Some use maybe one or two specific cases to explain the behavior and rules for complex, archaic and burdensome systems (multiple. you see, there are “the haves” and “have nots” within the NCAA) and others insist that wholly literal reading of the NCAA amendments apply to all cases, except their own. How does that work, again?
It’s not unusual for these folks to exist in a “fundamentalist” fan-view of their situation and college football’s landscape. They ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY CONDITIONED to be this way.
Their fake utopia of an NCAA that is “just” and “fair” would be hilarious if it weren’t such an unattractive quality to be afflicted with.
So, as far as I’m concerned- the “message the NCAA is sending” with regards to tOSU is an Owellianesque double-speak that feeds people like Buckeye Nation false illusions of “the rule of law” that are as dangerous as fantasies about the BCS being a fair & equitable system for post season bowl games. Regretfully, infatuation with a normal NCAA unfortunately fosters within them the moral sanction to ridicule and condemn any other university’s Compliance Department (because they perceive theirs as some model of the ideal) and to destroy other fan base’s opinion on matters that tOSU is facing with regards to Coach Tressel and the Tattoo 5.
Most Buckeyes don’t realize how obvious their twisted yearning for closure and is, at this moment. They’re a deer in headlights and depressed as hell. How else to explain their infatuation with NCAA bylaws? It takes a real psycho to lay in bed with that kind of shit.
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