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by Paragon SC on Jul 23, 2011 12:25 PM PDT
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NCAA said OSU didn't provide adequate rules education, now says its rules education and monitoring appropriate? What?! USC should be upset.less than a minute ago via web 
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The double standard is sickening...
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It is what it is...
And what it is… is a rigged game… simple as that. Let’s face it… here are some who can break the NCAA rules (without consequence) and there are some who cannot. USC is part of “the some” or just might be THE ONE who cannot. If and/or until there is an alternative to the NCAA’s brand of amateur athletics, USC, Trojan alums, and/or fans will just have to deal with it.
trojanWar
It's time for USC to somehow get with all the teams west of the Mississippi and band together to start a new association.
Who--What--Slim Shady----the ncaa is after all the BS they are lying out----and just remember they will rewrite history every seven years after the fact. Tennesse will get off with nothing on the violations, but that really doesn't matter they suck anyway.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 25, 2011 5:18 AM PDT up reply actions
All it proves to me
Is how completely incompetent Garrett and Sample are/were.
I think Sample was just too hands-off the athletic department.
His 20 years of running the university cannot be described as ‘incompetent.’
"I have a commanding voice." - Ed Orgeron
Mike Garrett was completely incompetent.
Sample should have fired Garrett 10 years ago, but it would have caused a huge backlash on several levels. I can’t blame Sample or Nikias for any of this. Hindsight is 20/20
"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?
Totally agree
Mike Garrett the gift thAt keeps on giving, I wonder if he left any k-y around. Oh yah he did in the presence of Petros PapaDickios
Who--What--Slim Shady----the ncaa is after all the BS they are lying out----and just remember they will rewrite history every seven years after the fact. Tennesse will get off with nothing on the violations, but that really doesn't matter they suck anyway.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 25, 2011 5:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sample as much said he regretted ...
not being move involved in athletic department as things started unraveling. He basically let Garrett get the AD position and then I think "trusted’ him way to much.
by trojanarchitect on Jul 25, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Why is this not front page news?
Where are Nikias and Haden on this? Will no one stand up for Troy?
Double standards abound
I’m not angry at all at tOSU, good for them- they forced the NCAA’s hand. Their trump cards:
1. a highly staffed Compliance Dept
2. a rogue coach
3. Julie Roe Lach
For what it’s worth: look at (G) of tOSU’s Notice of Allegations. Based on this, they should be hit with Lack of Institutional Control, based on repeat offender status.
And then, read the first paragraph of page 2- starting with “Additionally, Jim Tressel, head football coach. . . .”. Based on this allegation: tOSU should be hit with Failure to Monitor- based on the NCAA’s own website. (see FAQ section, fourth subject entry)
If you ask me, when NCAA Enforcement came to USC looking to see if our Compliance Dept was up to snuff, to interview our coaches and ex-players, and have a sit down with ex-AD Mike Garrett- they came away JUST HATING THE HELL OUTTA US.
They had nothing, and worse: they SAW that we weren’t going the extra-mile to get to the bottom of Reggie Bush. When they hit us with the allegations- we were quite bummed because of the Lack of Institutional Control charge based on being considered a “repeat offender”. We were left with our mouths wide-open at the COI’s determinations.
I don’t care who you are on this blog: NO ONE saw all that coming. Yes, some of you thought the NCAA would deal with us harshly- but none of you thought they’d make an example out of us to the degree that they did.
Did we have our heads buried in the sand? Yes. But, what the NCAA did to us- we should have seen the writing on the wall with the Notice of Allegations. It’s all there. The Enforcement staff investigation had nothing, and as Trojans, we didn’t expect them to criminally craft a case against us like they did.
This comment isn’t about the punishment, this is about the selective enforcement of the NCAA.
The bukkake’d us sideways!
Emmert and Lach are full of shit with their pronouncements of “coaches are held to a higher standard” bullshit. The NCAA could have put their money where their mouths are and followed their own damn dispositions and sanctimony. Screw NCAA procedures, they lost all credibility and integrity with this announcement that tOSU will not face tougher sanctions.
Considering tOSU vacated all their wins and put themselves on probation in July- lemme ask: what makes the Tattoo 5 scandal any different in July 2011 than it was in December 2010? The NCAA SHOULD HAVE MADE THIS DETERMINATION back in December 2010, the fact that the head coach LIED about knowing this doesn’t change the fact that THESE IMPROPER BENEFITS were committed and received at all.
The Tattoo 5 remains the same, all we have now is a coach that gets fired because he played ineligible players, lied to the NCAA, and he doesn’t have to pay a $250K fine. Matter of fact, he gets $52K and some change out of all this!!!!!!!!!!!
Way to go tOSU- y’all HAVE TO GET A TON OF FULLMER CUP POINTS FOR THIS.
If you want to walk the heavenly streets of gold, you gotta know the password, "Roll, tide, roll!"
by BixBeiderbecke on Jul 25, 2011 11:50 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Well I don't know if we had our heads barked in the sand, but basically shamed by Garrett and PC.
Who--What--Slim Shady----the ncaa is after all the BS they are lying out----and just remember they will rewrite history every seven years after the fact. Tennesse will get off with nothing on the violations, but that really doesn't matter they suck anyway.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 25, 2011 5:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Here's the thing
We were all 100% behind AD Mike Garrett all the through the COI hearing and up to the day of judgment. When the COI handed down those sanctions is the time most of us came out of our stupor.
Don’t give me that. I’ll man up and say that I didn’t find any fault with Garrett PRIOR to the sanctions. Most of us wanted him to be more proactive and publicly visible- but as far as our defense and our hearing? We were all on board.
Shame? I’m not ashamed of Mike Garrett, nor Pete Carroll. NOTHING THEY DID was shameful. They didn’t shame me and I don’t feel anything remotely close to what you just commented.
Did Mike Garrett blow it, in my view? In hindsight, YES. But that’s only because I have the advantage of hindsight. And Pete Carroll? Please, SoCal! NOTHING THE MAN did was wrong in any way to me. Do I wish he did things better.
Again. There’s hindsight.
My answer: AN EMPHATIC “NO!!!!” Pete Carroll did us proud and I’m bummed that he’s coaching in the pros. I’d take him back in a FREAKING SECOND!
If you want to walk the heavenly streets of gold, you gotta know the password, "Roll, tide, roll!"
by BixBeiderbecke on Jul 25, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
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I agree on PC, but I always thought MG terrible.
by trojanarchitect on Jul 25, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey I get you Bix, but I have never really cared fir MG.
now PC I can’t really say great head coach in the way of teamwork, but maybe he overlooked what was going on around him as did John Wooden. I trusted my players when I coach HS tennis, after it all hit me in the face I never let the same stuff go on. But I do know that you can’t watch players all the time, just the few hours that you work with them so hoping that they will do the right things is a crapshoot. Now their parents are even worst so I decided I would never coach team tennis again, I know what I do daily just don’t really trust others. But really gets me going is that all this stuff is on the kids playing today, for witch they had no control over.
But what the heck we are talking the NCAA now
Who--What--Slim Shady----the ncaa is after all the BS they are lying out----and just remember they will rewrite history every seven years after the fact. Tennesse will get off with nothing on the violations, but that really doesn't matter they suck anyway.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 27, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
There are a couple of differences between us and them
The thing that I don’t get is that McNair and Tressell both were found to be less than honest by the NCAA. It seems that OSU were allowed to divorce themselves from Tressell’s actions, and USC couldn’t get away from McNair.
The big difference is that our case had a whistleblower with an agenda to destroy Reggie Bush by any means possible.
Yep yahoo and Robinson did us in.
Who--What--Slim Shady----the ncaa is after all the BS they are lying out----and just remember they will rewrite history every seven years after the fact. Tennesse will get off with nothing on the violations, but that really doesn't matter they suck anyway.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 27, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
You want to know what really gets Max Nikias excited? It 'aint football...
From the daily “USC In The News” email:
The Chronicle of Higher Education included USC on its Honor Roll of Great Colleges to Work For, for the fourth year in a row. Based on a survey of 44,000 faculty members, staff and administrators, the list identifies schools that are exceptional places to work, The Chronicle of Higher Education reported. "Even as the economy remained tough and colleges coped with tight budgets, those that stood out seemed able to create a culture of success that touches faculty, professional staff, and administrators," the story stated. Respondents judged their universities on criteria ranging from institutional culture to satisfaction with workplace benefits.
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It should be noted that the following are absent from the list: All the Ivies, all the UC’s, Stanford, all the Big-10 and all the Big-12. Notre Dame and Duke made the list and surprisingly so did Ole Miss.
Here is the list:
Brenau U
Endicott C
Furman U
Gettysburg C
Hardin-Simmons U
Manchester C
McKendree U
Mid-Continent U
New York Chiropractic C
West Virginia Sch of Osteopathic
California State U-Channel Islands
Marywood U
Niagara U
Rollins C
Southern New Hampshire U
Texas Christian U
C of Saint Rose
Union U
U of the Incarnate Word
Westminster C Baylor U
Duke U
Eastern Kentucky U
Georgia Inst of Tech
Lindenwood U
Sam Houston State U
U of Maryland-Baltimore County
U of Mississippi
U of Notre Dame
U of Southern California
"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?
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It is interesting that are not many major ‘sports schools’.
by trojanarchitect on Jul 25, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
What no ucla
Who--What--Slim Shady----the ncaa is after all the BS they are lying out----and just remember they will rewrite history every seven years after the fact. Tennesse will get off with nothing on the violations, but that really doesn't matter they suck anyway.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 25, 2011 5:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
They are mostly private schools.
Prolly because of the economy.
Also, I’ve heard the Ivies treat everyone except tenured faculty like shit.
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