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Ohio State AD Gene Smith is getting desperate

Ohio State fans and alums need to voice their disagreement with the following proposal from highest mountain top.

Ohio State Athletic Director Gene Smith is considering going down the slippery slope...

Ohio State Athletic Director Gene Smith said Thursday he is considering hiring private investigators to strengthen the monitoring of Buckeye student-athletes.

Smith spoke at the National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics Convention at the Orlando World Center Marriott Resort. He was part of a panel representing the Division I-A Athletics Directors Association Compliance and Enforcement Task Force.

In 2008, Smith was one of the first members initiated into the task force trying to solve compliance issues in collegiate sports. Thursday, he talked about Ohio State's compliance issues, which include NCAA violations that led to the suspensions of five players for selling memorabilia and also led to Jim Tressel's resignation as OSU's football coach on May 30.

Can you say invasion of privacy?

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I can...and I did almost four years ago. (emphasis added)

Do the parents of a potential NFL star have the right to enter a business agreement with a party or parties based on the future potential/performance of their child? The easy and obvious answer is no, at least in the eyes of the NCAA. But if the parents do it without the knowledge of the player what is the player to do? More interesting, and this plays on the heart strings of decent people, if the parents enter into this type of arrangement do those of us not a part of it actually believe that Reggie would turn his parents in. We all love our parents and would anything to protect them even if we know what they are doing is wrong.  This is not murder, drunk driving or any other hideous crime that we hear about in the news. This is a couple of parents trying to cash in on their sons stardom after years of struggling financially. I don't think its right and I have said in the past that they could have waited but none of us have ever walked a day in those shoes.

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The one thing that I have trouble with is the potential privacy issue that is attached to this mess. How far should an institution go at monitoring the parents or relatives of their players? I'm not concerned about the privacy of Bush's parents; they lost that right privacy when they broke the rules; which has now jeopardized the welfare of a solid football program.

But the bigger question is should USC have known? That is the issue that will be central to their investigation. Like I said earlier it is a big leap between knowing and should have known but I'm not sure if I would be happy if the school started checking up on the financial behaviors of the parents for the sake of compliance. I am NOT suggesting that the NCAA, should Bush's actions expose wrong doing without SC knowing about it, should force USC to monitor parents behavior but it is also not too far of a stretch. I personally think that that would be impossible and I can think of no school that would endorse it nor have the resources let alone the will to do it.

I chuckled as went back to read this...the first paragraph could have been said in response to Cam Newton.

The second part that I highlighted is the relevant passage.

I would want not ANY NCAA sanctioned goons sniffing around my private life. We have already seen how the NCAA will twist a story or manufacture evidence to push their agenda.

Smith is nuts to even consider this let alone trying to implement this crazy idea.

If the NCAA wants to put language in their scholarship agreement about recouping monies, scholarship or otherwise, if a player breaks the rules that result in sanctions, I would be willing to look at it. The NCAA, as an organization, has the right to protect its member schools from outside corruption.

Modern businesses do it everyday.

But to snoop around peoples private lives to ensure compliance is a non-starter. If the NCAA doesn't have subpoena power then they should not have this type of investigative power.

The NCAA can't have it both ways.

They can't say the kids and their parents are one on one hand and then say that because the kid didn't know, like in the Newton case, that it isn't the kids fault and that he shouldn't be punished because of the sins of the parent(s)...(I'm looking at you Mike Slive).

Regardless of whether or not I think tOSU should have an LOIC or FTM charge levied at them...I am completely against the use of NCAA sanctioned goons monitoring the private lives of parents.

The reasons are obvious.

Gene Smith DOES NOT have Ohio State's best interest in mind with this proposal. He is a dead man walking and will be out before you know it. This is his way of genuflecting to the NCAA...his real master. He wants to keep as much tarnish off his name as possible so that he can continue to feed at the NCAA's trough.

You watch, Smith will get kicked upstairs to either Indianapolis or the Big 10 Conference once he leaves Ohio State...I highly doubt any other school would take him, as he is damaged goods.

This guy is bad news and Ohio State needs to cut ties with him fast.

This a BAD idea!

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They could recruit moles on the teams to snitch

and pay them. Wait, that would be illegal, unless you are the nc2fna.

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by gnossos on Jun 18, 2011 11:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Gene Smith is full of shit

There is nothing about tOSU’s predicament that would have been drastically changed by hiring PIs to moniter Buckeye STUDENT-ATHLETES. Smith has no clue. He still believes this is all about Terrell Pryor. But it’s not. It’s about a head coach who was aware of Tattoogate, and chose to cover it up. About the same head coach who was aware his players where hanging with a sports memorabilia merchant, and chose to look the other way. It’s about a head of compliance who talked to a car salesman who was receiving free tickets from players OVER 50 TIMES, and lied about it (claimed they only talked once). It’s about an athletic department that could have ended many these violations in 2004 with adequate investigation of Maurice Clarett’s allegations, but which chose to bury it and preserve their MNC.

To subject student athletes to an invasion of privacy would only be justified if their transgressions never came to the attention of tOSU coaches and compliance. We know that’s not the case. These are high profile athletes, and their misdeeds are noticed. You do need a private investigator to check the parking lot…to check the list of guests receiving free tickets from players…to ask a player how he paid for $5000 worth of new tattoos…to explain to the players that they can’t sell autographed memorabilia and rings…to explain to the head coach who he is suposed to call when he is informed of potential violations. Perhaps tOSU does need a private investigator…one to spy on the coaches and athletic department themselves. But they’d be wiser to replace them all with individuals who are committed to following the rules. And it’s obvious why this option isn’t being proposed by Gene Smith.

by TrojanJAG on Jun 18, 2011 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Laughable

What’s next, an NCAA enforcement squad?

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Jun 19, 2011 8:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I still don't get it

The NCAA nails us for:

1. Not having fully staffed Compliance Dept to monitor all our star athletes
2. Further dragging us down by severely penalizing USC for not catching our athletes red-handed, because of said understaffing.
3. Even more damaging, putting salt on our wounds because “we should have known”. (really? what happened to the “understaffed” part of this translation?)

Call me crazy, but didn’t tOSU have a Compliance Staff the size of a small corporation’s Human Resources Dept? And they (tOSU’s Compliance) can’t run a check on car dealerships, tattoo parlors, and ONE HEAD FREAKING COACH? Commit me now if I’m being illogical here: Columbus, Ohio is, but Santa Monica- to our Greater Los Angeles/San Diego County Metro-area. How hard is it to monitor 100 – 200 square f-ing miles?

Gene Smith, “you’re fired”! Find a tattoo shop and put those words on each of your wrists. Shouldn’t be hard, homey.

If you want to walk the heavenly streets of gold, you gotta know the password, "Roll, tide, roll!"

by BixBeiderbecke on Jun 20, 2011 8:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Bix,

You are not crazy. tOSU does compliance theater to entertain the NCAA. They hire a jumbo-sized compliance department, and report all kinds of insignificant minor violations to show just how on top of it they are. But when they get a tip about possible real violations involving star athletes, they go into coverup mode…the ‘tip’ is buried, the athletes are secretly warned to desist, and no investigation is undertaken. Only when an open records requests threatens to uncover their misdeeds, do they scramble to SELF-REPORT the violations while they still can.

Then they divert blame through anonymous press tips…first at the athletes, and only at an esteemed head coach as a last resort. Finally, they play the we’re-doing-everthing-possible-short-of-spying-on-our-players-maybe-we-need-private-investigators card as a last resort. But the reality is, if they followed up on tips and information that was known to coaches and compliance officials, they would be in absolutely no trouble right now. Their crimes are in failing to act upon suspicous activity, not in failing to uncover it. Their strategy of plausible deniablity and looking tidy on paper has worked well for the past decade, but it’s hard to hide widespread violations and departmental apathy once the media smell blood.

In the end, they’ll get half of what USC did because Gene Smith is the NCAA’s friend.

by TrojanJAG on Jun 20, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This might seem strange

Ex-AD Mike Garrett insulated himself to the point of getting backed into a corner and not having many allies or contacts to keep him informed/well-advised throughout the NCAA’s investigation of Bush/Mayo. Considering our little sister across town, their AD Dan Guerrero is quite a charmer. If that guy’s not sitting on The President’s Cup board, he’s on some sort of NCAA Executive Committee. He seems to know the value of working the system before the system works you.

I begrudgingly offer him some degree of respect in this regard.

I’ve not yet formed a solid opinion on our current AD Pat Haden, and besides- I’m not into bemoaning our current situation with so little time passed from the denial of our appeal. The NCAA is a loathsome topic to me now, the day the meet their demise is a day that cannot possibly happen too soon for me.

If you want to walk the heavenly streets of gold, you gotta know the password, "Roll, tide, roll!"

by BixBeiderbecke on Jun 20, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

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