Breaking: NCAA Denies USC's Appeal, All Penalties Remain

and the only surprise was it took so long.. Travesty of justice but then the deck was stacked.

given the extremely long time it took, I figured the most likely outcome was some sort of reduction and they were just figuring out how much. I suppose it’s possible that it instead means that they’re going to be bringing down the hammer on a lot of other places too, though who knows at this point.

Personally, I’d be in favor of a lawsuit. The NCAA recently amended their bylaws (yet again) to remind committee members that “reports in prior cases are not binding in future cases”. Do you really beleive that its a coincidence that they delayed USC’s apeal until after they had declared this ruling? Do you really think the NCA has any intention of ever penalizing another institution to the same degree that USC football was penalized for the trangressions of a single “high-profile” player? The NCAA can try to hide behind a shroud of secrecy, where absolute authority is subjected to no meaningful oversight. But this shouldn’t fly in a court of law. It defies all sense of fairness that any school would be subjected to harsher penalties than those schools before it, or those schools after it, simply because of the whimsical “justice” of a committee made up of people with conflicted rooting interests. The NCAA remains the single greatest corrupting influence in college sport where competitive advantages and competitive handicaps are doled to satisfy the competivie juices of a small core of power brokers. It would be a travesty to all who seek a level playing field in sport for this group of good ole boys to proceed unchallenged when an entitiy such as USC, which has the resources and backing, can bring it to justice.

I say sue the NCAA, and if necessary, apeal it to the supreme court. Let’s face it. There are substantial amounts of money invovled in CFB. The NCAA may have limited resources and authority, but they should not be allowed to deprive any member school of fundamental due process and equitable justice. At the very least, this type of abuse of power should not go unchallenged.

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Not surprising one bit. NCAA wanted to land a big fish into hot water to use as an example. SC clearly foots the bill.

Where’s Arthur Kirkland when we need him?

They will let OSU & Auburn etc…off? Piss on them. I think P Haden never should have said they would not sue beforehand – right after the appeal. It was as he he were saying we’ll roll-over let you screw us ans of course they have.

In fact This was expected.

I would even say this out come was predetermined before the committee was even heard.

Its closure for us…we move on. No matter how bad the team plays going forward I will support them.

1. USC has collected more than $450,000,000.00 in donations since last October. With football and basketball on probation.
2. Except for about $25,000,000.00 in McKay Center donations, the above is for academic programs and scholarships.
3. PH’s “winning the right way” means they (the Administration and BOT) never want to see another Reggie, Joe McKnight, O.J. Mayo, Frostee Rucker, Eric Wright, or Snoop Dogg on campus.
4. More than ever, USC wants to be Stanfurd and Notre Dame.
5. A top 20 US New ranking is USC’s #1 priority now. Football is (for the time being) expendable. Non-revenue Championships are a priority.
6. Project Stanfurd. We live with the consequences.

That’s what this is. Living in Big 10 country and seeing what Ohio State did up close and personal and the lack of penalties, and seeing what they did you you guys? This is bull crap.

is that the trustees are meeting to decide whether or not to pursue legal options. I don’t see how it could hurt USC to sue. It’s just not really going to help or change anything if we win a big settlement, or verdict. No one is going to care if we win a court case. Even the NCAA won’t give a crap.

And who was in charge of this merry band of miscreants, none other than the Chairman of the COI, Paul Dee.

“The Hurricanes finished Davis’ first season with a record of 8-3, which may have drawn a bowl invitation. However, on December 20, 1995 the NCAA announced that Miami would be subject to severe sanctions for numerous infractions within the athletic department. Among the sanctions was a one-year ban from postseason participation and a scholarship reduction of 31 over a three year period beginning in 1996.

In 1994, Tony Russell, a former UM academic advisor, pleaded guilty to helping more than 80 student athletes, 57 of whom were football players, falsify Pell Grant applications in exchange for kickbacks from the players themselves. The scandal dated all the way back to 1989 and secured more than $220,000 in federal grant money. Federal officials later said that Russell had engineered “perhaps the largest centralized fraud … ever committed” in the history of the Pell Grant program.6970

In late 1995, the NCAA concluded that, in addition to the fraudulent Pell Grants facilitated by Russell, the university had also provided or allowed over $400,000 worth of other, improper payments to Miami football players. The NCAA also found that the university had failed to wholly implement its drug testing program, and permitted three football student-athletes to compete without being subject to the required disciplinary measures specified in the policy. Finally, the NCAA concluded, the university had lost institutional control over the football program.71 Miami docked itself seven scholarships as part of a self-imposed sanction in 1995, and the NCAA took away another 24 scholarships over the next two years. As a result of the scandal, Sports Illustrated’s Alexander Wolff wrote a cover story that Miami should at least temporarily shut down its football program.69 Further, On June 21, 1996, Miami football players broke into the apartment of the captain of Miami’s track team and struck him repeatedly. In response, Davis suspended three key players for the coming 1996 season. Davis also suspended two other players who were involved in separate violent incidents.72"

From Wiki

Anyone surprised? If so, you’ve got a terminal case of optimism. So the USC football program has to get on with it. Only consolation to the Trojans is that over the next three seasons every PAC-12 title will deserve an asterisk. Now I’m really wondering what the folks in Columbus are thinking. Here’s USC getting slammed for an alleged and dubiously established assistant coach ostensibly knowing about but not telling the University of an NCAA infraction.This plus the new standard of “should have known” as applied to “lack of institutional control”. But according to NCAA rules… some made up as the process went along… SC is GUILTY. So bring on the hammer. Now in Columbus, there is that program’s HEAD COACH who has 1) admitted to knowing about NCAA infractions, 2) not coming forward with NOR acting on such knowledge, 3) continuing to play what were clearly ineligible athletes anyway and 4) lying about it all to both THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY and the NCAA. My sense of optimism says there’s a 100 or so hours of community service in THAT coach’s future. On the other hand… if you camp out next to the guillotine and a freshly severed head happens to flop by… let’s say that “terminal optimism” might have just claimed another victim.

I’m bummed but this was expected, anything else would’ve been a shock to be honest.

The real interesting thing is the precedent this sets for other programs. If I’m an Ohio State fan or Auburn fan I’m scared shitless of how much damage the NCAA is going to do to my program.

Great way to stand up for your University. I just don’t buy the “I didn’t know while I was in college, I just know about playing football” bull.

SC would go to court out of principle, not for any cash. SC will ride out the next few years like nothing. Short of playing like the Dodgers, Trojan football will continue to be supported by donors, fans, and media.

Think about it, what other program in the west has this? The big money comes in despite one of the children behaving badly. SC takes care of itself.

USC’s rebuttal to the COI’s response, and it is absolutely scathing. Highly recommended reading when you get the chance (it’s 14 pages, but it goes fast).

A key and glaring omission is that the Committee ignores the fact that the penalties imposed in this case exceed even those in the 1995 University of Miami case, the facts of which are some of the most egregious in NCAA history. This omission is telling.

Love that dig.

you all should convince Lane Kiffin to talk publicly about the SEC’s behind the scene’s manipulation of rules and their infiltrating the very bodies that govern them. They are clearly as dirty as an institution outside of military junta’s can get. SPEAK ON IT!

And you should convince the other schools in the pac 12, and the conference for that matter, to join you in a law suite.

But you guys would have to stop using the very unethical practices that need to be exposed as fundamental and institutional in the south (and texas). Can you give up the bad habit? Can you really put down the crack pipe and start making good decisions with sound ethical foundations?

I hope so. I really, really do.

GO PAC 12. SEC = Watergate (squared)

One of those backwoods courtrooms where the judge is drunk and makes decisions based on whether you look like a “Goldurn city slicker.”

The Cam Newton and Ohio State cases last season illustrates that point.

Will the school actually keep him if it means facing another set of sanctions?