Did Jim Tressel know?
by Paragon SC on Mar 7, 2011 6:04 PM PST
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PrintIt waaaaay to early to jump on this.
Like I said with respect to the Oregon situation, Ohio State fans can't be happy that Charles Robinson is sniffing around.
But this passage intrigues me...(emphasis added)
According to a source, a concerned party reached out to Tressel last April, alerting the coach that memorabilia transactions had taken place between Rife and a handful of Buckeyes players, including Pryor. The selling of items violates NCAA eligibility rules. The source said Tressel was troubled by the information, and the coach indicated that he would investigate the matter and take appropriate action.
We have seen this tactic before...
With Tim Floyd.
A concerned party?
How about a name to back it up. At least with Floyd, Robinson and Cole trotted out Louis Johnson even though he had a motive and a book deal in the works. His story was NEVER corroborated!
Maybe Tressel knew and maybe he didn't but without a name to back up the accusations this is all just speculation.
How about some proof?
I am not giving Tressel a pass, if he knew he's a dead man walking and tOSU has a long road ahead of them if the NCAA officially gets involved. As a repeat offender this could turn out ugly....and that is with a coach directly involved....like Bruce Pearl. Even USC didn't have that stain placed upon them because the NCAA never levied a show order against Floyd or Carroll. Like it or not there was nothing there that they knew of anything that was going on.
This one is going to be interesting.
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definitely not
a fun report for a fanbase to see. agree with you that it’s too early to know much of anything for sure. doesn’t look good at first glance though.
What gets me. . . . .???
Is, okay- the NCAA ruled on eligibility/reinstatement when it comes to TattooGate of 5 players on tOSU’s football team this past December. The evidence the NCAA had before them was pretty clear. These players, most of them starters, committed selling memoribilia in exchange for obtaining tattoos in 2009. The judgment: 5 games of suspension because tOSU’s Compliance Department, which numbers a total of 7 full-time staffers, “didn’t adequately educate” the football players in rules concerning the selling off of their wares. (like frak had said at the time: “What happened to the high-profile athletes warrant high-priority compliance oversight?”)
Here’s where I’m getting at: In light of these new revelations that Coach Jim Tressel knew of Pryor, et al. selling their university memorabilia in exchange for tattoos in April 2010, AND the fact that the NCAA KNEW THESE KIDS DID THIS AS FAR BACK AS 2009, how come the NCAA didn’t turn this into a major infractions case and automatically suspend these players from the team and force tOSU to answer allegations of players “receiving improper benefits” (tattoos) and/or have Coach Tressel and tOSU’s AD answer to allegations of “failure to create an atmosphere of compliance” (in the least) and “failure to monitor” (at worst), with regards to the tOSU football program?
The NCAA got away with murder in this decision, and the mainstream media totally dropped the ball in barely offering token disgust with regards to TattoGate.
I’m just as angry with college football media journalists as I am with the NCAA.
This new revelation regarding Jim Tressel knowing back in April 2010 (if true) is going to drive a stake into the heart of the NCAA NOT enforcing it’s own rules of member compliance, thanks to the favorable ruling they handed down to the Big 10, tOSU, and Terrell Pryor.
"Every rock that someone threw at me, I just used as a steppingstone." (Allen Bradford USC Tailback aka: "B-Rad")
It really come down to the fact the Ncaa is an east to midwest Company and like they all do they Hate themselves and Envy the West Coast.
Now I say Company because they have way long ago in the 90s past the organization level they report to the IRS, More money and profit than 99% of companies in this country. Hell these guys could sell their Crap to people over and over again, and people will just keep on smearing all over their faces hoping to get a good whiff of Illicit Money. Hell if anyone should run this country it might be them since they always have lots of Cash on hand. So do I think tOSU will get anymore punishment even if Robby finds the real dirt ABSOLUTELY NOT.
Go Trojans Beat the heck out of all next year—————OH and everyone watch for this name Dallas Kelley (cowboy done gone LB).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wwNnjtyZks
BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.
by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 7, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
Here's another one.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kha2oPV1838&feature=fvwrel
Is Dallas as fast as he looks on film?
Oh, Mama, can this really be the end
To be stuck inside of Mobile
With the Memphis blues again
-R. Zimmerman
Yes Tre is another one Our LBs will be just nails in 2 years, and Dallas has 4.5 4.6 speed but dam he is Quck.
BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.
by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 7, 2011 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
Gaining traction?
From Stewart Mandel:
Meanwhile, there should now be serious questions about Ohio State’s original handling of the situation last December. Beyond the still-mystifying loophole that allowed the Buckeyes Five to play in the Sugar Bowl, it always seemed a bit odd that the notoriously laborious NCAA was able to resolve the case in less than two weeks. Reading between the lines, it was clear AD Gene Smith and Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany did something to expedite the process. They were practically boastful of it. Perhaps they missed an important piece?
Meanwhile, Ohio State’s own former players let it spill via Twitter that their friendly relationship with Rife dated back nearly 10 years. Yet the NCAA took Smith at his word that the incidents were “isolated”? They didn’t want to maybe look into the school a bit more?
Oh, Mama, can this really be the end
To be stuck inside of Mobile
With the Memphis blues again
-R. Zimmerman
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Report-Tressel-knew-of-players-selling-memorabilia-last-April.html
Oh, Mama, can this really be the end
To be stuck inside of Mobile
With the Memphis blues again
-R. Zimmerman
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Oh, Mama, can this really be the end
To be stuck inside of Mobile
With the Memphis blues again
-R. Zimmerman
It really is rediculous.
Just compare what happened at OSU to the textbook gate at UA where a couple of football players were exploiting a loophole whereby the would get free books for a class, drop the class, and loan the books out to their friends. In our case, we immediately suspended the players, investigated the issue, and reported it to the NCAA. And they still vacated wins that those players had participated in and put us on probation.
Or compare it with the AJ Greene issue. Who knows what kind of impact that had on their season. Why couldn’t AJ Greene serve his suspension next year.
With OSU, it’s like “oh don’t worry about it. No penalties. And hell, go ahead and play in your bowl game. You can serve a suspension next year!” uh… wtf.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
Point taken.....
Or, USC vacating championship seasons because a market gave Reggie and family illicit benefits to induce him to leave school early. All done miles away from campus without any direct, proven knowledge by USC.
Tressel knew but OSU still played in the Sugar Bowl w/out suspensions?!? Fkn corrupt!
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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT
Well it's pretty clear
that Tressel knew, given taht they’re admitting it. Tough to say what penalties will be, may depend on whether he lied to NCAA about it. They’re asking for 2 games, and who knows what it’ll end up being.
uh oh
http://twitter.com/#!/slmandel/status/45276192995147777
Tressel signed NCAA certificate of compliance in September. Even if he didn’t lie during the actual investigation (and I’d guess he did), that’s a premeditated lie by someone who’s definitely supposed to know better. Given Dez Bryant penalty, I’m not sure he should be allowed to coach at all in 2011.
I can't help but to wonder is Jimmy Buck pointing and saying I will take 2 game suspensions for 250,000 Alex?
Yes the game of Self Sanction Jeopardy on every night just before Wheel of Ncaa Fortune Staring Missy
BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.
by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 9, 2011 3:31 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
That's a REC!
You got it SoCal!
If one were to “read between the hypocrisies” in trying to figure out the “how and why” any given NCAA committee- be it reinstatement, or enforcement, infractions, or appeal committee, determines judgment when presiding over alleged player/coach misconduct or matters concerning university compliance- it seems quite apparent that all a university, coach or player must do is to be entirely forthcoming in admitting guilt and positively proactive in taking the necessary steps to rectify any departmental weakness(es) or compliance related training, as it applies to staffing, coaches, or players.
Sure, do all OF THAT and. . . . . .the NCAA is almost guaranteed to show leniency.
It seems quite simple. As a matter of fact, . . . .SO SIMPLE that even a knucklehead fan like me can figure it out by now!
Well, it also helps to have a conference commissioner HEAVILY engaged in your cause and an athletic director out in front trying to reach out NCAA infractions director Shep Cooper and fully cooperative with any/all NCAA enforcement investigators as they bum-rush your campus.
WAVES HAND TO MIKE “MR. HEISMAN” GARRETT AND EX-NCAA COMMISH TOM HANSEN
"Every rock that someone threw at me, I just used as a steppingstone." (Allen Bradford USC Tailback aka: "B-Rad")
by BixBeiderbecke on Mar 9, 2011 6:52 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
and the President of the tOSU
is “worried” that Tressel is going to fire him!
Oh, Mama, can this really be the end
To be stuck inside of Mobile
With the Memphis blues again
-R. Zimmerman
His timing is right up there with Mike Garrett's. However, Garrett was indeed correct!
"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?
I rec you to my man of many words Bix
I wonder if the Missy Committee will reward tOSU with some scholarship sanctions?
BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.
by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 9, 2011 8:44 AM PST reply actions
I can't blame caffeine, so DAMN!
I had just finished my morning katas (martial art exercises emphasizing form, technique, concentration, and power. there’s all sorts, i usually do @ 2 hours worth 3 times a week, mostly in the early morning. today i crammed in 3 different katas: ) – So, before I responded to your comment- I was all still jacked up from working through the nage-no’s, then it went downhill from there because after those, I got caught out of sync in the katame-no’s, and was full-on sweating major bullets trying to get through the kime-no katas- without blowing my form or losing concentration and speed in defending and closing space- this last kata is performed in pairs, the previous ones- a person can do them solo. so anyway- a neighbor of mine moved in about 3 months ago is a 2nd Dan judo badass, he’s become my Wed/Sat partner. He’s lighter than me at 148, but he’s super-lightning quick and slippery. (I don’t manhandle the m-fer!) Dude! But due to his quickness and insane footwork/positioning- he’s difficult to lock on cleanly, hit at max power, or clutch and pull with all my strength because the dude sweats profusely/ and we don’t wear gi’s. And if I don’t keep my wits about me, the f_cker can/will clock me good ‘cause he hits/kicks at strangely retarded angles. He doesn’t hurt me or anything- I just hate getting tagged and peppered like that so early in the morning. (oh yeah- no head gear, just lightweight ear protection and gloves)
So I get in my place, as I attempt to put my keys a counter- my whole freaking ginormous cup of a recently purchased power/breakfast smoothie explodes right there in my hand, crashes down on my hardwood floor, and rooster-tails the fuck outta the nearby walls and cabinet doors. I mean, . . . . .it was a most unfortunate sight to behold! (truth: it was the lid, yo! seriously, the drink exploded when I placed it in one hand, grasping close to the top-half of the cup. Like magic, (or a curse- maybe some hex too! who the fuck knows?) it blew up and got all “mushroom-cloud-shaped” in mid-air and just destroyed any semblance of me having even the remote chance of enjoying a quiet, stress-free morning.
I wrote my comment to you first, . . . . . .AND THEN I cleaned all that fucking shit up.
You know you’re gonna have a doozy of a day when it takes you 2 1/2 hours to finally take a shower after opening your eyes to glorious new day! (i’m actually good now, though. i went back to New Life Market on Main St. and told ’em about the drink and. . . . .finnagled a BRAND SPANKING NEW drink from the store owner, free of charge. this one was even better- she put in extra supplements in this new drink and she also made me a double shot of wheatgrass to drink while i patiently waited around)
So yeah, I get “wordy” when things are either messed-up OR going great for me. Nothing like having a bi-polar Wedneday morning, I’ll tell you. Believe me, it’s quite peculiar when- after hitting, kicking, throwing, locking someone all morning long, to have someone feel sorry for you and feed you good things to eat and drink.
Now if only I can be blessed with a “nooner” today?
"Every rock that someone threw at me, I just used as a steppingstone." (Allen Bradford USC Tailback aka: "B-Rad")
by BixBeiderbecke on Mar 9, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
No Bix I saying you are the man and you remind me of myself when I was in my late 20s---40s, always getting up running at least 3-5 miles then off to teach tennis.
After teaching and practicing at 5 got ready to go to Bar-tending gig 4-5 shifts a week finished by 1:30-2 head on home hit the sack at 3 get up at 8-9 start all over again. 6-0 about 193—98. Ran 83 LB marathon in 3:41 played in an open BB league on weds, road my bike at least 70 miles on weekend (35 a day) when didn’t play local tennis tournaments. If i didn’t run 10 yards sprints and bleachers with 150 sit-ups and 75 push-ups ran quick sprints in 3-5 mile run.
BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.
by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 9, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
You have to think
that the NCAA is regretting some of the harsher penalties it’s handed out recently. Not just USC, but also Green and Bryant. They didn’t know that compliance across it’s member schools would go full Sheen the way it has, and they’ve set some pretty harsh precedents for themselves to live up to.
Even with their Every-Case-Is-a-Unique-Snowflake-So-Precedents-Are-Silly spin, public perception of the NCAA is going (deeper) in the tank one way or another.
You got it, painted themselves into a corner!
Love the “Full Sheen,” Rec’d!
Oh, Mama, can this really be the end
To be stuck inside of Mobile
With the Memphis blues again
-R. Zimmerman
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