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What will USC Basketball look like next year?

Many opinions are circulating on what steps USC basketball should take next year.

Whether it is replacing Kevin O'Neill or giving him, or what type of players O'Neill should recruit everyone has an opinion.

I feel pretty certain that O'Neill will be back next year. Fairness dictates that he get at least three years to get his system in place with all of his players.

Of course there has been talk of who should replace O'Neill if he were to be let go.

The names are all familiar...From Jamie Dixon to Mark Few to Lon Kruger and the like. But let me be the first to say Dixon will never come here, it doesn't matter what his local ties are here. 

As long as the athletic department takes a lukewarm approach as to how they currently market the basketball program and as long as the school goes down the path that many think they are of de-emphasizing sports by walking away from the money that they are rumored to be leaving on the table and the current administrations long range vision of trying to be like Stanford etc. no high quality, proven basketball coach will come to USC.

Star-divide

That's the administration side but what about the roster?

Michael Lev of the OCR gives us some different scenarios of what the roster could look like next season...

It’s as much a preview as a review, and in that vein, here’s a look at three possible starting lineups for USC next season:

WITH VUCEVIC ‘BIG’

WITH VUCEVIC ‘SMALL’

  • F Nikola Vucevic
  • F Aaron Fuller
  • G Jio Fontan
  • G Greg Allen
  • G Maurice Jones

WITHOUT VUCEVIC

  • F DeWayne Dedmon
  • F Aaron Fuller
  • G Jio Fontan
  • G Greg Allen
  • G Maurice Jones

We all know how this team does with Vucevic in the line-up. Without Vucevic, USC will have a tough time doing well in the conference.

O'Neill also needs to get some other players involved. His six man rotation just doesn't give us a chance as the season wears on. He needs to give some of the kids some trial by fire.

The question I have for Pat Haden is this...What are your expectations?

You can't say you want to win titles if you are not willing to invest in the product. Are we doing that now?

I laid my expectations in the comments of the Open Thread in the first day of games.

I think they are pretty simple...

Compete and win some conference titles…not just the CCG

How about going deep into the NCAAT…I would be happy to see some Sweet 16’s and Elite 8’s as the program builds its brand and depth.

I am not going to demand winning it all when we can’t even when the conference.

I just want some progress…unfortunately this aint it

At times we have had the talent but after this season we are headed for a bit of a drop off...sanctions do that to you. They hurt your ability to recruit and like we saw with Garrett's move of letting players out of their LOI's it really hurts your depth.

It is going to be a rough season next year...especially if Vucevic moves on.

And I think he will...

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With his team going out early in Ncaa tournament Mark Few might take over the trojans by next season.

This would be the best choice for a coach to replace KO now, because he could persuade the recruits to stay. Oh and by the way Lev the non-athlete that he is (becoming the Bill Plaschke the Register) forgot Wesley who will probably start and is the best player in a USC uni.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 20, 2011 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

PH needs to show him some LOVE ($ $,$$$,$$$)

Few is poised to make it to the ranks of elite coaches, he just needs school that can attract elite talent. Question is, does he want to go there?
Think about it…

"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Mar 20, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow I was just read this after I put up the post for Mark, I agree Loco he is prime to move on because I don't think hr can draw the elite BB players at Gonzo.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 20, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is true

Some guys value comfort over big-time professional success. What does Mark Few prefer? He’s got four little kids and loves to go fly fishing.

Few has already talked about dream jobs in the Pac-10, specifically Stanford, Ucla, Oregon and Arizona. He’s already waived off Arizona and Oregon.

USC can be added to Few’s list; especially since like Gonzaga, USC is a private institution, and the athletic department is headed by Pat Haden, easily the most intelligent AD in the country. The talent pool is enormous and USC’s academics are far superior to Oregon and Arizona. The elements are there for the creation of a Duke style program in California, all we need is the right coach. Few is a coach that would be extremely interested to hear all about USC’s Project Stanfurd.

Would Few and family be happy in Manhattan Beach? Perhaps he should talk to Lane Kiffin about life in that little slice of Heaven.

"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Mar 20, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well if it is Fly Fishing that turns him on I have a friend I can set him up with who knows a lot of private spots in Southern Cal.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 20, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

A Paragon of Negativity?

De-emphasizing hoops? Umm, hello Galen Center.

A high quality, proven basketball coach? Like a coach with 6 years NBA experience, 4 NCAA tourney appearances with 3 different programs, two top 20 programs built, and a sweet 16 from a mid-major? Meet Kevin O’Neill.

Pat Haden’s expectations are a squeaky clean program, and progress being made to reach a championship level. Was your expectation to win the conference this season? USC has not won the conference since 1985. And, we were in the second year of severe sanctions, including scholie and recruiting limitations.

It seems indefensible to not characterize as progress going from 2009 program implosion to 2011 winning conference record and NCAA tourney invite. In the second year of devastating sanctions. With a deeply flawed and limited team.

USC will have a full roster next season no longer impacted by sanctions. How can you use sanctions as a rationale for having a “drop off” in our first year after sanctions? We will have more players next season, not fewer. And, what did sanctions have to do with Mike Garrett releasing an entire class from LOI? Sanctions didn’t come for almost 9 months after that.

Why do you think Vucevic will leave early since you don’t elaborate? He is not projected to be a 1st round draft pick. In addition to 6 new players becoming eligible next season, we have 2 committed recruits on track to being top 100 national players in the 2012 class – Lewis and Reinhardt. Drop off? I see a clear path to continued improvement and program building.

The Negative Nancy clan of grave dancers seems ill-informed on the state of USC hoops. It is obviously your right to bash the program, but your arguments are severely lacking in substantiation, IMO. All hat and no cattle as we say on the prairie. Good thing football practice starts soon.

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 20, 2011 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice try making a silk purse

Collegiate record: 206-209
NCAA Tournament wins: 2
College HC: 4 (He left all of them under a cloud of controversy)
NBA HC jobs: 1 (Fired after one season for mouthing off)
Conclusion: A sow’s ear.

"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Mar 20, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike, Pat and I all respectfully disagree

We are capable of evaluating in context. We know that, like Lane Kiffin, all of KO’s HC jobs have been rebuilds. So, we dig a bit deeper than an average fan’s surface analysis to see that KO significantly improved each program on his resume. The win-loss record does not tell the complete story, or really much of the story at all. Also, we know that frequent turnover and job hopping is business as usual for professional basketball coaches. Nothing unusual there.

Mike hired KO and Pat and I endorse his continued employment as he builds the USC program the right way.

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 20, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

How much money did USC put up for Galen BEFORE Galen's 50 million?

w/out Galen’s seed money we would still be in the Sports Arena. USC has NEVER marketed its product well. 30 years after McKay’s departure we are just now getting around to building a new football facility.

Pat Haden’s expectations are a squeaky clean program, and progress being made to reach a championship level. Was your expectation to win the conference this season?

Squeaky clean is fine but KO is simply a caretaker. What do call progress? simply having a winning record? As for winning the conference…No, I didn’t expect that this season but I expected a better result. Were you happy with some of the losses this season? beating Texas, UCLA and AZ is nice but not when you compare the losses we had.

It seems indefensible to not characterize as progress going from 2009 program implosion to 2011 winning conference record and NCAA tourney invite. In the second year of devastating sanctions. With a deeply flawed and limited team.

Maybe but the conference is down when compared to just a few years ago so to me its all relative…can’t have it both ways. Either OOC losses were bad or the in-conference losses were bad…I mean really Oregon? Twice??

USC will have a full roster next season no longer impacted by sanctions. How can you use sanctions as a rationale for having a "drop off" in our first year after sanctions? We will have more players next season, not fewer.

Same way that I said that FB would have a drop-off…sanctions are long term even after they are over. More players doesn’t mean better. KO’s prized recruit this season was a head case who transferred, he didn’t exactly develop Garrett Jackson very well and if we are so concerned with bodies why did he run off Washington?

And, what did sanctions have to do with Mike Garrett releasing an entire class from LOI? Sanctions didn’t come for almost 9 months after that.

Plenty, It was because of the impending doom that Garrett blew up the class. Real intestinal fortitude there. In fact USC cares so much about basketball they sacrificed the basketball program to save the football program…..that’s a MAJOR FAIL!

Why do you think Vucevic will leave early since you don’t elaborate? He is not projected to be a 1st round draft pick.

I don’t think KO has developed Vucevic (NV). NV may be more athletic now but because KO does so little to develop an offense it isn’t hard to see that NV suffered…they couldn’t even get him the ball the last few games of the season. NV should stay another year but he has the option to play in Europe where he can develop better and even get paid to do it then he can take a run at the NBA…

In addition to 6 new players becoming eligible next season, we have 2 committed recruits on track to being top 100 national players in the 2012 class – Lewis and Reinhardt. Drop off? I see a clear path to continued improvement and program building.

We’ll see…quantity does not = quality. He could have played Jackson more but didn’t and that was his guy. Nothing wrong with a little trial by fire to see what YOUR recruit is made of.

- – -

You may think my argument lacks substance and that’s fine but please tell me how you think KO is anything more than a caretaker for the program? His on the court record doesn’t show it and his personal judgment is a real head scratcher as well. I mean c’mon, the night before the biggest game of the season and he wants to act like a college freshman?

You said Haden wanted a squeaky clean program, do you think ’SC needed that bad pub with all the other stuff going on?

I didn’t say fire him, I said he would get another year and that it was fair to do so but he isn’t THE ONE. And USC doesn’t market their product well.

Tell you what…let him stay another 3-4 years and lets see how he does, but I am not optimistic, I bet he is gone in 2…and that’s pushing it.

by Paragon SC on Mar 20, 2011 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Good counter

First, I don’t believe the widely held fan spin that KO is a caretaker. USC doesn’t roll that way, and no former NBA head coach is coming to a sanction-addled school to be a caretaker. If USC wanted a caretaker, we would have given the job on an interim basis to either Gib or Bob. KO was hired as a long-term solution.

Yes, we had some bad losses. But, what’s the baseline? KO hired in the SUMMER of 09 with no recruiting class coming in. He had to talk Donte and Simmons off the cliff to prevent a scenario in which we would have had WALK-ONS in the main rotation. There was serious discussion that Lil Romeo might start at PG until Gerrity became eligible.

KO was also charged with cleaning up the program. USC is going to extremes to prove Institutional Control. So, any players who are not serious scholar-athletes had to get the boot…..Leonard, Bryce, etc.

This season, due to thinness from sanctions and the Garrett giveaway, we have an ENTIRELY NEW backcourt. In football, that’s like the football team starting a rookie QB and RB.

So, under these scenarios, I think it was reasonable to expect losing seasons last and this year. Maybe losing last year, and .500 this year. Yet, despite challenging obstacles,USC had a winning record both seasons, and finished in the upper conference echelon this year for an NCAA tourney berth.

This season’s team had serious flaws and limits. We were not very athletic or quick. We were short and not physical at guard. We had poor perimeter shooting. We had no depth to speak of.

Next season, we have 6 new players coming in, and in 2012, we have 2 recruits on track to be top 100 national players. I guess that I see real progress made, and a clear track for the trend to continue. You do not. That’s cool.

There’s only one way to find out. I respect your argument, for sure.

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 20, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

bq . Same way that I said that FB would have a drop-off…sanctions are long term even after they are over. More players doesn’t mean better. KO’s prized recruit this season was a head case who transferred, he didn’t exactly develop Garrett Jackson very well and if we are so concerned with bodies why did he run off Washington?

If a coach can’t develop and work with problem players he is not a very good coach, I have never ran any player or employee off always found a way to work with them.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 20, 2011 6:02 PM PDT reply actions  

is that why Floyd ran off more players in 4 years than anyone not named Calipari?

Shouldn’t Floyd have tried to “work” with them?

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Mar 20, 2011 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't disagree...

But Floyd had some decent depth so he could afford to do it…not saying I agree with it though.

Floyd also developed players and had some decent players not named Mayo. It wasn’t perfect but it sure was fun to watch for the most part

by Paragon SC on Mar 21, 2011 5:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Floyd had 5 players who would be drafted and play in the league...

Players have shown development under O’Neill as well. Look at Donte Smith.
He was TERRIBLE when Floyd was here. Completely different player since the new coach took over.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Mar 21, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vucevic's development

Timmy, 2009 – 2.6 pts, 2.7 rebs
KO, 2010 – 10.7 pts, 9.4 rebs
KO, 2011 – 17.1 pts, 10.3 rebs

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 21, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't talking about TF, but I to felt he should have made an effort but who knows maybe he did.

Like your in the band how would you feel if your mentor that recruited you to USC up and said you know your not good enough to be at this level, I feel you should transfer?

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 21, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

i know you weren't talking about floyd.

however, you were saying that a good coach wouldn’t run off a player. Floyd ran off at least a half dozen.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Mar 21, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well TF is basically a good coach B- and KO is a C coach.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 21, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Name one major program coach in football or basketball who has not booted problem kids

Does Jame Boyd ring a bell? This is multi-million $ sports, not child daycare. Coaches take a gamble on 17-18 yo kids and you’re never quite sure what you are going to get until they arrive on campus. Every team has player turnover.

With USC under sanctions and the NCAA microscope, we will kick out more players in the future as our tolerance is quite low for kids who are not serious student-athletes. Wait until you see the player turnover on the football team next offseason if we are still required to meet a 75 player limit.

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 21, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't necessarily disagree...

but because the numbers are smaller in hoops it has to be a real problem before a player is shown the door…

by Paragon SC on Mar 21, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

One other question that deserves an answer....

Regardless of what side of this issue that you may be on, one thing that MUST be flushed out is this…

If I was Pat Haden, I would thoroughly investigate the legitimacy of the allegations that claimed O’Neill approached Oklahoma through backdoor channels to be considered for their job, if it became available.

If that was true, I would part ways with him immediately, and hire someone who considers USC a destination job. No way the USC basketball job should be considered by anyone to be a steppingstone gig, even though it oftentimes has been thought of as that.

That has kind of been lost in all of this. It end to believe that it is true because of how OU suppoerts its sports programs.

If KO is looking to get out and really doesn’t want to be here then he should go post haste and give the AD time to looking for someone else who really wants to be here.

by Paragon SC on Mar 21, 2011 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Uh oh...

The KO excuse-a-thon to follow ought be entertaining :-P

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by M. AGRIPPA on Mar 21, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do agree that if he is looking at other jobs he should be let go.

Hell, I would have fired Floyd the minute he got on that plane to Tucson.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Mar 21, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just an unsubstantiated rumor at this point

I agree that Pat should look into it. But, these coaches have agents. And, this time of year with so many job openings, almost every coach’s name will get mentioned in conversations.

Leaving USC for OU makes no sense to me, unless as a stalking horse for salary negotiation. But, JWM-gate killed any leverage that KO may have built up. No hoops coach would leave LA for Norman straight up.

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 21, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriously!

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 21, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

The play-in mercy bracket is not the Tournament

"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Mar 21, 2011 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alms for the poor...

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by M. AGRIPPA on Mar 22, 2011 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

USC #44 on kenpom.com

very deserving

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 22, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that all there is? Should have done way better

but when you lose to mighty Rider (at home), Bradley and TWICE to the sucky ducks, then yes; #44 is what you deserve.

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U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Mar 22, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

USC should have not played in the ncaa tournament, but the nit

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 22, 2011 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess you are now smarter than the NCAA Selection Committee

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 22, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Factually incorrect

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 22, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right then... Congratuations, we conform to the new lower standard.

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by M. AGRIPPA on Mar 22, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

68 teams get in. That is how it works now.

Should we not be happy that we made the lower standard of the 64 team field after they expanded it before?
Hell, it used to be that you had to win your conference just to get in. So does that mean that everytime we’ve made it in without winning the conference we weren’t deserving?
The standard is what it is.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Mar 22, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sure as heck wasn't happy that the best we could do is a "play in" game

Sure the experience is great for our guys and as we have seen it doesn’t take much to catch lightning in a bottle but I am not exactly “proud” about being a throw in.

The Pac-10 is down and we finished in 4th place…we really didn’t look our best coming down the stretch.

Just Sayin…

by Paragon SC on Mar 22, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus if we would have gone NIT the team could have gain more experience than ONE game.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 22, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some here were saying the road to the Round of 32 was paved and that a Sweet 16 berth was very possible...

That we had a superior coach and a superior front court,, etc. Those nobodies from VCU with their goofy coach had one and done written all over them. Yeah right.

Or party animal coach was ill prepared for what was coming and our boys got pwned by Shaka and his merry band of overachievers. They executed and we didn’t, their coach got everyone involved while ours didn’t, they had a game plan and all we did was show up.

Lesson learned? I don’t think our old dog CAN learn. Why? Because he kept falling in the same trap all season long. The lesson should have been learned when mighty Rider came to town.

Past is prologue.

Shaka, Shaka, Shaka!!!!!

"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Mar 23, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only you believe this should have been a sweet 16 team

they overachieved with what they did. VCU might be going to the final 4.

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 23, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Tex...

I never said and neither did you but others did.

"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Mar 23, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always felt they should have been a sweet -16 team x a +16

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 23, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Translation please?

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 24, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your expecations were too high then

if you can’t be happy with an NCAA appearance this season. This team was deeply flawed – poor athleticism, weak perimeter shooting, no depth, small immature backcourt, instability at PG, two offensive handicaps – Al & Marcus – in starting rotation.

KO did a remarkable job to finish 4th and get this team in the tourney in year #2 of scholie and recruiting sanctions with only 1 abbreviated recruiting class under his belt.

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 23, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not look our best down the stretch?

We finished the regular season 6-2, tying UA and UCLA for the best record in conference play over the last 4 weeks of the regular season.

Then, we beat Cal and lost a close game to Zona in the conference tourney. How can you say we did not look good?

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by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 23, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the team underperformed.

Sometimes you win because the other team is bad or has an off night not because you are better. KO can’t find a way to beat a zone defense.

He uses a 6-7 man rotation and doesn’t develop his players from what I have seen.

It isn’t always about stats…

So, yeah…I don’t think the team looked great coming down the stretch.

by Paragon SC on Mar 23, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes the reason why you practice and play a non-conference schedule is so you develop your players and team.

In all sports amd life you learn from your failures, unless you are KO.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 23, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh but what would I know, since I played on the Pro tennis circuit and coached players and teams.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 23, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

A tennis club pro = an NBA head coach

in basketball knowledge? Good to know.

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by DFWTrojan on Mar 24, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

LISTEN DIP SHIT I WAS TALKING ABOUT COACHING------BUT BEING A TEXASS I GUESS YOU KNOW BETTER.

Sorry was never a peace of shit club pro shizekoff

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 24, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I think maybe USC should give KO a 15 Million dollar contract for 10 ten years, at 15 a year.

It will be great to have the start of the Forth Reich, our team can come out of the tunnel doing the goose step.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 21, 2011 9:34 PM PDT reply actions  

that doesn't make sense and isn't even funny.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Mar 21, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah come on brown KOer don't cry

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 22, 2011 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Wouldn’t have it any other way.

"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Mar 23, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

it's called No Brag Just Fact

I don’t kiss butt and never will.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 23, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

And Just remember all KO is a miracle worker I thought he might be the second coming of Hitler, but now I realize he is a higher source. .

Just might be a very large hebrew national hotdog====Kevin I party hard O’Neil

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

oH and Flush the sound Our Basketball Program is going down the drain, anybody got some liquid Plumber.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 23, 2011 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

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