Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Bob Sapp Denies Throwing Fights

HAS USC REALLY GIVEN AWAY ALL BROADCAST RIGHTS FOR 10 YEARS?

One of the biggest challenges facing the new leadership when it took over the Pac-10 was how it would it go about negotiating a new television deal that would be competitive with other BCS conferences, while providing a foundation for incremental revenue based on what individual teams could create for themselves within their own markets.  From a USC perspective, the ability to leverage its attraction as a marque television draw and generate revenue would be a key component of any future conference television agreement.

This picture started to get painted during the almost-but-not-quite formation of the PAC 16 Super Conference.  Ironically, as the PAC 12 Conference Commissioner started to give glimpses of his vision for a conference television agreement and what was in the best interest of conference members, it also helped put into motion a separate new television agreement for what many hoped would have been the conference's next college football icon, Texas.

Once Texas was informed their vision for a new television agreement was not aligned with the PAC 12, it used its clout as an iconic program to stay in its conference and get a 20-year, $300 million agreement with ESPN to launch its own network...with complete control over its branded content, licensing and broadcast rights. This really laid the groundwork for how USC could maximize its status as a multi-generational college football blue-blood and icon.

The first step USC took was agreeing to a less-desirable expansion of the Pac 10 by adding Utah and Colorado to form a new Pac-12.  Both schools seem to have done well with the move, having been assured they'd be in the Southern division with Colorado also getting help for its buyout from the Big 12.  It appears this was a start to how USC believed it would maximize its status as a multi-generational college football blue-blood and icon.

Unfortunately, here is the likely next step for USC, according to multiple, well-established sources.  It appears that USC is prepared to take, or has already taken, a different strategy from the one that helped land Texas its record-setting TV deal.  Information is starting to emerge that USC's administration has turned over, or is very close to turning over, all broadcast rights to the Pac-12 for the next 10 years. It's an "All Rights In" revenue-sharing plan currently used by the Big Ten and SEC.  It should not be much longer before we find out if this happened, and just how restricting and limiting the agreement could be for USC.

One of the most important conditions of a deal like this for USC would be an escape clause so USC could leave to take advantage of a better opportunity in the future. The word I'm hearing is that USC could leave the league but the league would retain all of USC's broadcast rights for 10 years. Let's evaluate that escape clause from a business perspective.

USC would be offering all its home Notre Dame games into a common Pac-12 pot for everybody to divide up equally. The same USC program with the highest-rated regular season game in ESPN history, the 2009 Ohio State game in Columbus, that would be measured and valued equally with a Cal team that will be playing a home game with Presbyterian this year.  Factor in the possibility of how other Pac-12 teams play for guarantees, as Washington State does at times, and keep the $500,000 checks while USC puts everything into the pot.  There is one limit to the deal. For five years, or until total broadcast revenue reaches $170 million, USC and UCLA would each be getting an additional $2 million because of their unique position in Los Angeles TV market. But only for five years while signing away all rights for 10 years.

One independent TV analyst has USC possibly losing out on $10 million to $15 million annually if it just went to an eight-team conference with the three other California Pac-12 schools and Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma and an eighth team, maybe even Notre Dame. USC must have considered how it would be giving up this chance, or the opportunity to form what has been referred to as the "Elite 8," an inter-sectional, independent made-for-TV football conference comprised of some of college footballs best and most established programs. Obviously, by agreeing to this "All Rights In" deal, USC must believe it has committed  to a better opportunity at the expense of giving up all the leverage it may have as clearly the most valuable entity in the Pac-12's TV bid and its ability to generate multiple channels of additional revenue off the power of the USC brand.

If this is how USC is really recognizing and maximizing its financial opportunities for the benefit of the university, the athletic department and fan base, now might be the time for USC fans and alums to pursue and demand answers.  The Pac-12 Commissioner apparently has convinced everyone this is the only way to a Big Ten-type package for the league; if all teams give up all broadcast rights.

Maybe the level of commitment USC is prepared to make to the new PAC 12 Conference, and to ensure its status as an "All In" team player, might best be symbolized by its apparent willingness to undersell itself.  If USC would only insist upon an escape clause that would allow itself to capitalize on a better tv deal, it could potentially secure something in the neighborhood of an extra $100 million over 10 years in the event that a Texas-type TV deal comes along.  Instead, USC seems willing to undersell itself and give up any potential opportunity to maximize its position as a proven college football television ratings powerhouse.

Comment 46 comments  |  1 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Further proof

that big time sports are being de-emphasized? Could it be that we’re preparing for a day when USC will need a Pac-12 subsidy?
It could happen when the NFL comes to town and if USC starts ratcheting up the requirements for athletic scholarships.

"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Mar 13, 2011 7:48 PM PDT reply actions  

What's the effect on non-revenue sports?

I’ve always taken the view that football is essentially semi-pro, and one of the advantages of all the money that makes the idea of “scholar athlete” a cover rather than a reality is that the football program generates a lot of revenue that supports the non-revenue sports, the ones that are played by young men and women who for the most part, like the NCAA ad says, will be going to pro in something else.

In a year that saw USC add a varsity sport at the same time that Cal was reducing sports, I would very much like to know how the Athletic Department sees this move – of throwing more money into the conference pot – affecting their ability to provide long term support to volleyball, water polo, tennis, and track and field, to name a few. These are not money spinners, after all.

I don’t really think that this proposed model, unlike say professional sports’ revenue sharing, necessarily does much to increase football parity… scholarship limits provide some equalization and donors’ ability to improve facilities provides some distinction, it’s probably a wash compared to results on the field driving the decisions of new recruits.

But I think it has the capacity to bring down the non-revenue sports. Paragon mentions the Big 10 and SEC pooled resources; aside from baseball, do those schools compete at national championship levels in the same sports SC plays? I guess I should go look into it.

I get that there’s an impulse to be the conference equivalent of a “good corporate citizen.” I don’t even mind if the Athletic Department and the Administration try it. But I would very much like to see some indication of what they think the likely revenue picture is moving forward, and I for damn sure want them to pursue some kind of ability to walk and take the revenue with them.

I don’t contribute to the athletic department – I’m still paying my scholarship forward, so to speak, on academic donations. But a lot of alumni do support the athletic department, and I think they’re owed at least an explanation of how these plans affect the other varsity teams, especially as the alumni will be the ones getting hit up for more donations if there’s a future shortfall.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Mar 13, 2011 9:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Not surprised at all

As you say, the B10 and SEC are all rights in. From the TV business perspective, locking in USC is critical to the deal, and you worth a premium on the contract for relinquishing those rights. Maybe a good 30-50% premium over a more flexible deal for USC?

Since Pat has taken over, he has done nothing but kiss ass. He wants to clean up USC’s image, which I did not really believe was in need of major repair. He wants the other Pac10 schools to like us. Meanwhile, we are being taken advantage of. By the NCAA. By the media. By the Pac10.

I think this plays in to Loco’s Project Stanford. The BoT and Max both respect the affiliation with other Pac10 elites, like Stanford, Kal, and UW. They have no desire to ever break this affiliation. Our strategy is to become the Stanford of SoCal, it would appear (credit Loco).

So, what’s $10-15 million a year for athletics when your goal is a $10 billion endowment? The “new USC”, the U of we’re Sorry and Contrite, will not go “rogue”. We want to be model sheep in the new conference herd.

Meanwhile, UofTexas may be setting themselves up for incredible economic windfalls in athletics. Of course, it’s possible that UT is being overly aggressive and will fall on their faces, and USC is being prudent by playing so conservative. Only time will tell.

A Quick Note for the Quitters
No comment from this thread will be deleted. You will have to own them when we get it turned around and beat Southern Cal. You will never ride the bandwagon when we come back. Not on BN. GO BRUINS.
by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 13, 2011 10:08 PM PDT reply actions  

I can't see this why would USC do this the freaking slugs in this conference can go suck duck.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 13, 2011 10:08 PM PDT reply actions  

A couple of points

The Big10 and SEC models are different, not the same. It’s the Big10 model the Pac12 is trying to emulate (which by the way outside of Texas is the best method). Technically the Trojans do have an escape clause, it’ the fact they can just leave the conference period and go independent giving a two year notice. Honestly none of this is new information, it’s been out there for months just few have put it out there showing just how bad of a deal this is for USC. Until the Texas deal was cut, the Big10 method was shown to be the best. Now not so much. USC should demand to keep it’s content and OOC games. It’s getting screwed by the new Pac12 deal, as surprisingly are UCLA, UW and maybe Oregon. That is the least they should do, however they should seriously consider going independent. This isn’t the 90’s, revenue works differently now. The Texas deal shows the huge revenue out there and USC would be better off on their own. Everyone else in the Pac12 takes when compared to USC, it’s time to stop giving to those who actually hurt USC.

by ev on Mar 14, 2011 9:26 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Thats a rec and I agree wholeheartedly about going independent, they would just have join the WAC or Big West for non-revenue sports.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 14, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

You wouldn't have a problem with that?

What’s your perspective on that as a tennis guy?

"I have a commanding voice." - Ed Orgeron

by RabbitSC on Mar 15, 2011 4:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

For tennis the only teams in the pac that are good are ucla and stanford, we would still match up with them once a year.

The ncaa tournament is defined by ranking not conference first 16 are in the rest have to qualify, so it really doesn’t matter. there is only 7 teams in the pac as of now. ASU dropped men’s tennis 3 years ago and WSU and OSU don’t have teams, since the washington, Cal, and Zona suck we can save travel money. Most of the schools in the WAC and Big west have teams if not all of them and it would be more competitive. Boise State is the best team in the north, followed by BYU they are better than Wash. or Oregon and Cal. THose conferences would welcome USC mens and Womens tennis with open arms because they would draw better player even more. Plus Hawaii has a team.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 15, 2011 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unbelievable

If Haden and Nikias believes USC is worth Washington State, then I don’t believe we have the right people in charge of USC’s business affairs. This is horrific news.

by Julio Nievas on Mar 14, 2011 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm not really sure you can make that assumption

We don’t know the details of the negotiations for the Pac12, how much leverage USC/UCLA had in forcing their hand. Remember they are only two members and unless USC was truly ready to go independent there might not have been much they could do to cut a better deal. The Big10 model is based on the same full revenue sharing and they like it. The problem is the fact in the Pac10 they didn’t have true revenue sharing before, to switch is a huge difference. That is why there is the $2M bonus if a certain threshold isn’t reached (I think it will be without much problem). Since USC should be getting more than before, the thinking is it’s not a bad deal and in fact good for USC. The whole being part of the Pac12 is worth the less cash idea (which many posters have put forth over the last several months) However I agree with you, it’s not really a good deal at all. The amount of money being spread to the other schools is too large, it wasn’t worth the few crumbs USC got out of the expansion process. Unless this is temporary, just USC biding it’s time to go independent, then the Trojans got screwed in this deal.

by ev on Mar 14, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go independent when?

If ’SC walks after they sign the deal then the conference will still own their rights until that ten years is up.

So they can go independent but the conference will still benefit…

by Paragon SC on Mar 14, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

If USC were to leave, they would take their rights with them.

It would be pretty hard to believe otherwise, even after signing a ten year deal. The Trojans could give their two year notice at anytime, although it would make sense to do so either now or after seeing what the new TV deal brings. I think it’s a pretty big assumption to believe they would keep USC’s rights if the Trojans were no longer part of the conference.

by ev on Mar 14, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok but you said we don't know the deal yet???

“It should not be much longer before we find out if this happened, and just how restricting and limiting the agreement could be for USC.” – are we talking indentured servitude? If what you say is correct, then the USC administration has already decided being part of the Pac12 is worth $10M+ per year. Not sure I agree but not much we can do about it right?

by ev on Mar 14, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

How "it will" be written...

This is pretty much a done deal…just waiting for the signatures…

by Paragon SC on Mar 14, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here is what the Big 12 (10) is doing...

LINK

On the verge of collapse just months ago, the Big 12 is nearing a cable agreement with Fox that will more than triple the conference’s revenue over its current contract.

The Big 12 and Fox are close to finalizing a long-term deal that will pay the 10-team league more than $60 million a year, well up from the $20 million it now receives from its cable contract, industry sources say.

Fox, meanwhile, has been in discussions with eight of the league’s schools about establishing a conference-specific channel for a handful of football games, up to 60 basketball games and Olympic sports. The channel would not include programming from the University of Texas, which has partnered with ESPN on a new Longhorns channel, or the University of Oklahoma, which is planning its own channel, as well.

It is my understanding that Larry Scott can only negotiate with Fox (Previous contract) till the end of the month. On April 1, he could throw open the bidding to include Comcast and others . SO, WHAT IS THE RUSH ? Fox countered today by this new deal giving up to 10 teams (excluding UT and OU) $60M a year along with their OWN dedicated Fox Sports Channel. We have supposedly been offered as the Pac-12 ONE PrimeTime game a week on the regular Fox Channel.

On any given Saturday, there will be at least 6 PAC-12 games that will be broadcast by Fox under this deal. Other than maybe the Mouse picking up a “filler” game here or there, who televises the rest ?

Rumor on the street is that the non USC’s (All our games will be on Fox or the Mouse) like WSU,Colorado’s and the rest will be allowed to package their own local deals (keep the cash, not share) not picked up by FOX or the Mouse. Another say WHAT in this equation.

by Paragon SC on Mar 14, 2011 3:49 PM PDT reply actions  

He can negotiate with ESPN for a portion of the football games

He is limited with both networks in that they have an exclusive window for what they currently have, it was reported he is already talking to ESPN. He for example can’t negotiate with Fox over the ESPN content. IF WSU and the others can cut a small side deal, how is this an “all-in”? Something isn’t right with this picture.

by ev on Mar 14, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

clarification

There remains unclear a couple things in what otherwise could well be a humiliating, inexplicable and negligent act of agreeing to this type of deal.

1. Are ALL televised games of USC in the pool, or just games on certain networks? Unsure…
2. If there are networks exempted from the all in pool, then can USC negotiate a deal for themselves?

If this answer in NO to both questions, then simply put, it is malpractice for an AD, responsible for profitably growing revenue in Athletic Department that among many things, needs to fund his vision for athlete enrichment and non revenue, Olympic Sports, to agree to this type of deal.

I have heard both and hence put both scenarios in the piece.

Put it this way…even if I am wrong on this part of it, the deal still stinks and Haden and Max are selling the football program down the river…

by Paragon SC on Mar 14, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The San Jose Mercury news has an article about this

They are saying that all the game are in the pool, in fact everything is in that pool. WSU will not be cutting a separate deal, what isn’t picked up in the 1st or 2nd tier deals are dumped into the network pool. The money is already covered in other words. It’s straight out of the Big10 handbook. The other point he makes is Fox hasn’t even given their official offer yet, they can’t and neither can ESPN. He doesn’t seem to think this deal is near done. That said, anything other than a tier payout (like in the past) or a Texas deal is bad for the school. The best is independence however I just don’t think the school has the you know whats to do that at this point.

by ev on Mar 14, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Geeze..

It seems to me SC should go the route UTexas and OK are pursuing. SC’s brand (almost a pun) is right up there with Texas and I would suspect better than OU’s. I know it the past few years it was maddening at times trying to PAC games at all other 1 or 2 on TV any given Saturday. It is not Tennis — it is Football, BB etc…

by trojanarchitect on Mar 14, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still Feel that if I were Pat H I would drive home the fact that we don't like the deal and unless it is changed will go the way of a independent.

Pac-11 would be a nothing conference without USC.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 14, 2011 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

While I certainly agree

The problem is Haden was the one who cut the deal. The overall plan was cut just a few months ago, when the Pac10 meetings were held and the divisions created. At that point the school agreed to the Big10 model which is an “all-in” one. The kicker, the Texas deal, happen a few months later. That Texas deal was ground breaking, it’s the path USC and others should follow (seems some in the Big12 are). Not sure if they can turn the ship at this point, but they should.

by ev on Mar 14, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless it is in writing USC can do whatever they want if they have the Balls.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 14, 2011 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Likewise ev

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 14, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reality check?

To be honest I don’t know that SC’s “brand” is on par with a team like Texas or ND. It’s not a state school, nor does it have the joy of being a bandwagon Catholic team.

SC is plenty popular when the football team is good. But, in my experience, during a long drought, SC feels forgotten. I can’t tell you how many times as a kid in the 80s and 90s, I used to wear SC shirts and get asked if that meant South Carolina.

For us to be able to pull a big deal on their own like Texas or ND, there would have to have evidence that people will watch an SC game solely because SC is playing. That may be true during the good times when we have an electric team, but if we ever have another Hackett on our hands who draws 40-50,000 to the Coliseum, not so much.

Rodney Sermons is my #5

by Brad Otton Is My Homeboy on Mar 14, 2011 7:36 PM PDT reply actions  

But you would agree that SC......

Is the one of the most recognizable brands in the PAC maybe the most? Or are we so delusional that we are WSU? If we are so little in reality I guess we should lay back and enjoy it?

I grew up in Texas and SC was very recognizable — back when we were primarily known as Southern Cal. Even TX has a bad period not so long ago…. and winning changed their home attendance as well. I would say the TX identity has to to the Identity of TX as state. CA has nothing as unifying – it probably helps to also have 60K student body for 3 decades now as well. ND is another story completely with Catholic identification which has also baffled me…. why only ND of the Catholic schools gets ‘whole-hearted’ Catholic support.

by trojanarchitect on Mar 14, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

My best friend lives in Atlanta area (gainesville) and his son is a big USC fan.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 14, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN has said USC is the only program west

of the Mississippi that can guarantee to turn on TVs on the east coast. Remember USC is also the number one bowl team in terms of TV draw. over the last decade. That is based on past results per individual bowls. The Texas deal was for only TWO football games, the ones not picked up by Fox at that. While I agree USC is can not carry an entire state like Texas, they do sit in the #2 TV market and would be selling better OOC games. They might not be able to get Texas money, but then they don’t have to and can still come out way ahead.

by ev on Mar 14, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brad makes a good point, I think

First of all, U of Texas might be the identity of the state to non-Texans, but in Texas, UT shares the big boy table with Texas A&M, the 7th largest school in the nation and a top 60 research institution. Also, Tech, Baylor, SMU, TCU, Rice, Houston, OU….UT in no way owns the state fanbase.

The Texas model should work well, if you can get your conference to allow you to do their own side deal. But, I’ve read some interesting analysis about the Texas side deal, and some suspect that UT/TV, or Teasipper TV, may fail. Or, at least not reach its lofty goals. It’s not as easy to launch a new channel as some think…..distribution, content, incremental pricing for customers. Will there be enough interesting content for UT fans? Who wants to watch college track & field on TV? And, we’ve already heard them backtrack a bit on broadcasting HS games.

I think it is prudent to wait and see how the Teasipper TV plays out. In the “going independent” scenario, I think USC runs the risk of weakening our brand by relinquishing all the history, tradition, rivalries, relationships, etc. It would be a very ballsy move. I think we could pull it off, but I am not certain.

I think it prudent to sit back and watch things develop for a few more years. But, not 10 years!

A Quick Note for the Quitters
No comment from this thread will be deleted. You will have to own them when we get it turned around and beat Southern Cal. You will never ride the bandwagon when we come back. Not on BN. GO BRUINS.
by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 14, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well ESPN thinks so much of the deal

They gave Texas 20 years to figure it out. I would agree with the idea about sitting back and waiting, prior to this article I would have given it at least 2-3 years. However if Paragon is right, we are talking about 10 years. That would be way too much money to leave on the table.

by ev on Mar 14, 2011 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the horizon line of TEN years is for most of us here have the biggest problem.

And yes Texas has other U’s other than UT but I would venture to say on TAMU comes close to or equals the UT fan base. My point at one posting regarding the Coliseum attendance woes particular during that Hackett years was that UT and TAMU with huge student bodies 50-60K (at 80-90 undergrads) can more easily have a full stadium with a good or mediocre team, plus FB is king in TX. I grew up there thinking nothing matter but FB.

SC has 32K students but only 16K are undergrads.

I am hoping the “negotiations” doesn’t tie SC’s hands for 10 years with escape clauses. As we know things can change rather rapidly and SC needs to be able to adjust if need be.

by trojanarchitect on Mar 15, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not really sure what I think about this, but I guess it figures.

I have been puzzled by my alma mater’s behavior for some time (about 10 years now). For a school that talks about its direction, and its goals, it often seems to be spinning in circles. If the Athletic Department is just breaking even, why not hold out for a better deal? Does Pat Haden really think anyone will ever like us? Really? It almost seems like we have replaced an AD with a pathological persecution complex with a hippie ceramics teacher.
USC has been suffering from an identity crisis for a while, and calling it progress. As a private University I have always wondered who exactly USC serves? The USC community? As a member I suspect that most Alumni and fans wants are limited, they want a winning team and their kids to get into undergrad (of if they are a bit younger to get into one of USC’s graduate programs). The board of trustees? They want USC to be ranked higher by US News, and to one day find a way to set the world record for most buildings crammed into one small urban campus. The attractive co-ed (actress) who thanks the disembodied voice of USC on that new annoying commercial they show during games? She probably just wants a SAG card (good health insurance).
I can tell you that right now the Board is winning (and likely always will). But what is most troubling is the lack of attention the University seems to pay to anything that is not their primary area of focus (new larger buildings and US News). Why not take some time and create a decent marketing plan for USC sports? Why not think about what USC is, and what it means to alumni and fans. If USC really wants to be great it has to find a way to integrate all these issues into a unified plan and set of goals. One that takes into account What USC was as well as what it might become.
Just my 2 cents.

by ilium55 on Mar 14, 2011 10:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree we, USC, is not going to make any new friends. Go back decades and it has always been the same story, one either likes or dislikes SC and nothing on that has really changed.

I also agree on the annoying co-ed in the USC ad for sporting events and her insipid – “You’re Welcome” … ugh!!!

More importantly I agree that USC needs a unified plan and set of goals to promote the Whole University – Sports included which has been lackluster. Sometimes it feels like a field of dreams… build it and they will come…. well no, you need better marketing. The other faces of the USC ‘communities’ and their accomplishments and pursuits would get a larger audience through a directed and coordinated effort. There is a great story to be told, one in which we all can take pride.

by trojanarchitect on Mar 15, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yah build it and they will come, not a good slogan considering a bad attemp of accommodating the general fan.

It’s ok if you have lots of money to spend but if your a working class stiff you probably don’t want to buy season tickets, because you either have to work or can’t afford every game. The food service is terrible and over priced at the Galen center, plus the upper seating is more cramped then lower I Jean maybe an extra 200-300 fans packed in paying the same price doesn’t make sense. Plus whoever is doing marketing isn’t plane and simple.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 15, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

-------

I agree generally about the food and lack of variety — considering how good the restaurants are that SC Hospitality opened – The Lab in particular. Though I was surprise when I decided to got to Ap-pauley for the VB match with ucla…. there prices were higher than SC’s by any where from 25 to 50 cents per item…..

Luckily my founder seats are on the lower level – in the corner above the Team tunnel. I chose them over the upper deck center…. too steep for my fear of heights! But I like the cush of the seats – nicer than Staples.

“They” need to market both FB & BB, etc….. with individual tickets sales that is clear. The problem has been the empty seats in the donor sections….. where are these people. I rarely miss a game — of any on my Galen sets… BB (M/W) VB (M/W) — geeze I need to get a life…. But seriously it would be better all the way around…for the teams and the atmosphere….

by trojanarchitect on Mar 15, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yah I couldn't always go to all games so I didn't buy season and would just show up have sat in the founder seats when galen first opened.

But after that have been regulated to upper level (what a difference) I don’t mind the height but don’t like to be cramped in like a sardine. Wow I could never believe all the founders no shows, why don’t they at least give them to friends, employees, HS teams etc.

BOOM_BOOM that was the sound of the DUCKs being shot down again in a BCS Bowl Game---I guess all that Slave Money can't buy a championship.

by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 15, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly -- that was the point......

I rarely miss anything but I try to find some on to use them….. whose for SC or at least neutral. To many AZ around me, etc……

by trojanarchitect on Mar 15, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great comment illum

BTW, read somewhere from someone who sounded very credible, that USC is in the process of outsourcing marketing/PR. Guess it has always been internal for the most part. Our brand is strong enough to be top 4 in merch sales nationally among universities, but we at nowhere close.

Heavyweights like IMG are in the bidding/evaluation process. Purportedly.

A Quick Note for the Quitters
No comment from this thread will be deleted. You will have to own them when we get it turned around and beat Southern Cal. You will never ride the bandwagon when we come back. Not on BN. GO BRUINS.
by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Mar 15, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thats a good start

the goal for USC should not be Notre Dame or Stanford, but a school like UNC. A solid academic institution with a huge market presence when it comes to merchandise and profile.

by ilium55 on Mar 15, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to Conquest Chronicles the SB Nation blog about the USC Trojans.

Community Guidelines

Managers

Images_small Paragon SC

Avatar2_small DC Trojan