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Desperation...

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And Pterson's son is not special needs...he is acancer survior...

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by Paragon SC on Nov 29, 2011 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

hive mind

"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell

by RabbitSC on Nov 29, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

FWIW

Petersen does not have a ‘special needs kid.’ His son survived cancer and is now fine.

"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell

by RabbitSC on Nov 29, 2011 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

Treatment of chronically ill kids

Treatment of chronically ill children is the speciality of Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles. CHLA is widely recognized as the leading children’s hospital on the West Coast of the USA. They just expanded their facility and any child with really special needs would be referred to this center over UCLA Medical Center. While UCLA Medical Center has terrific pediatric specialists, they are not as robust as the teams at CHLA.

by bonesmccoy on Nov 29, 2011 4:16 PM PST reply actions  

yeap, Just like CHOP in Philly or Schnieders at LIJ

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by Paragon SC on Nov 29, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't see him coming to LA to much exposer

Yes we can't play in a Bowl and that is lucky for the rest of College FB' but next year we at USC will dominate.

by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 29, 2011 5:47 PM PST reply actions  

I mean bosie is a close knit town and nobody really pays attention to what happens there

Yes we can't play in a Bowl and that is lucky for the rest of College FB' but next year we at USC will dominate.

by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 29, 2011 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

the mind boggles

Not at the money, but at the idea that “hey, maybe if we suggest that we’ll put his kid at the front of the line for treatment, he’ll come here.” Do they think that Petersen is a rube? I have a hard time believing that a guy known for being a pretty straight arrow would respond all that well to preferential treatment of one kid among others in a pediatric oncology ward.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Nov 29, 2011 8:39 PM PST reply actions  

For what it's worth

someone in the Cesspool said that the kid’s Dr. had moved to ucla children’s hospital

Oh, Mama, can this really be the end
To be stuck inside of Mobile
With the Memphis blues again
-R. Zimmerman

by gnossos on Nov 29, 2011 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

it would be reasonable to view that as a draw, if it were true

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Nov 29, 2011 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know who to be sadder for

UCLA to use a child’s heath as a bargaining chip. Or the United States, where a child’s health can be used as a bargaining chip. This is 10x sadder than anything else I have read about UCLA’s search.

by ilium55 on Nov 30, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

yes it is sad

But, if the Petersens are making regular trips to UCLA Medical Center, then why not move?
They’re down here alot anyway.
And, plus, the young man would be able to set up schooling during treatment.
That whole set up makes sense.
I just wonder how much $$$ it would cost USC’s affiliation with Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles to scout if this story is accurate, who the doctor is, and then recruit that physician to the CHLA Oncology program or to the Doctors of USC? They’re always advertising at the games for the “Doctors of USC”.
Brings a whole different perspective on the benefits of being with USC or UCLA, doesn’t it?
If the child is doing well, this would not be a “sad” story, but a victorious one for the child and UCLA. If it’s a true story, then I hope the kid is doing well and the Petersens are as well.

by bonesmccoy on Nov 30, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

The BN will get what they deserve.

Larry Scott is a spineless, candy ass, limp wristed, silver spoon sucking, tits and ass tennis show pimping, Champagne swilling, rich asshole "Haavahd" tennis player from New York City with ZERO HISTORY OF KNOWING OR CARING A WHIT ABOUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL, AND EVEN LESS ABOUT PAC-10* FOOTBALL.

U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Nov 29, 2011 8:55 PM PST reply actions  

Pulling out all the stops

If they could land Peterson, it would be a coup for them – if they think they have any kind of slight leg-up or angle they can play, I don’t see why they wouldn’t play it. Given where their program is at right now, they probably have no shame in throwing out whatever “perks” they think might bring in a big name.

by FightOn09 on Nov 29, 2011 8:57 PM PST reply actions  

How much are they raising tuition in these tough economic times? Big pimpin' for football though.

A Quick Note for the Quitters
No comment from this thread will be deleted. You will have to own them when we get it turned around and beat Southern Cal. You will never ride the bandwagon when we come back. Not on BN. GO BRUINS.
by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Nov 29, 2011 9:36 PM PST reply actions  

Chow was sitting around at his Manhattan Beach home

In retrospect, it was quite easy

Larry Scott is a spineless, candy ass, limp wristed, silver spoon sucking, tits and ass tennis show pimping, Champagne swilling, rich asshole "Haavahd" tennis player from New York City with ZERO HISTORY OF KNOWING OR CARING A WHIT ABOUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL, AND EVEN LESS ABOUT PAC-10* FOOTBALL.

U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Nov 29, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

If the tweet is true, this is great news for the USC/UCLA rivalry.

Honestly, I was beginning to wonder if UCLA had just given up trying to compete with USC. They show up for their only rivalry game of the year, dressed in an unrecognizable white, and lay an egg. No passion. No fight. No pride.

I credit Neuheisel for at least trying to compete with USC to the end, but it didn’t look like the UCLA players or the administration were on the same page. UCLA looked like TAMU…soundly whipped and overshadowed by their geographical rival…but with no alternative conference to flee to…defeated and unable to pussy their way out of a one-sided rivalry.

And USC delivered exactly what UCLA needed…a forceful slap in the face. And it looks like maybe…hopefully…UCLA has taken noticed. If UCLA wants compete against USC, they aren’t going to get there by making bold proclamations that they can’t back up. The only way they are going to get there is by really caring. And that entails investing the effort, money and leadership that it takes to succeed…and not tolerating complacency or excuses. Perhaps after a decade of apthathy, UCLA needed to hit rock bottom to make the necessary changes. I hope so.

This “desparation” is a good thing for UCLA, and they should thank USC for it. Instead of complaining about how many times USC passed in the 4th quarter, they should recognize what USC did last week…what UCLA didn’t do…and that was simply playing a rivalry game like the outcome and tradition really mattered.

by TrojanJAG on Nov 30, 2011 8:31 AM PST reply actions  

Desperation hires never work out. Cornpone is a young version of Neuheisel, minus the grease

He will do a respectable job but the guy doesn’t have a clue how to compete full time in the big time, in the big city. He works well out in the backwaters of Idaho but will melt under the heat of the klieg lights.

Larry Scott is a spineless, candy ass, limp wristed, silver spoon sucking, tits and ass tennis show pimping, Champagne swilling, rich asshole "Haavahd" tennis player from New York City with ZERO HISTORY OF KNOWING OR CARING A WHIT ABOUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL, AND EVEN LESS ABOUT PAC-10* FOOTBALL.

U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Nov 30, 2011 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with you about desparation hires

But UCLA’s problems go deeper than the HC. If all the Bruins get from that 50-0 stomping is a new HC, then they will have missed a huge opportunity to capitalize on the will of their fan base. Neuheisel wasn’t a great coach, but he cared deeply about UCLA. Problem is, he was one of the few who did. If he was given the type of support that Meyer will be given at tOSU (or that Kiffin was given at USC) he probably could have been successful.

UCLA’s next coaching hire will determine their fate for the next 4 years (at least). There is a certain amount of luck involvled with any coaching hire which can’t be eliminated. But UCLA can put the framework of sustained success into place now. USC, for example, whiffed with Hackett, but the framework was there for Carroll (and now Kiffin). I do not know if UCLA’s desparation will be channeled productively or not. But it is a sign that they care. Whether they can use it to fuel the changes that are needed to rekindle the rivalry is up to them.

by TrojanJAG on Nov 30, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

HC hiring is dependent upon Executive leadership and Board opinion

Because hiring decisions in California are dependent upon executive leadership and board level priorities, the fiscal priorities of that leadership and their ability to fiscally manage the enterprise is at stake.

UCLA’s leadership is faced with political priorities from Sacramento and the UC Regents impacting their ability to structure their own general fund’s spending and priorities. They can make assumptions about donor base and funds to be raised, but those projections are meaningless in this economy.

Conversely, USC has a leadership which is very steady, does not need to respond to political whims from Sacramento, and has a donor base which has the economic might to fund the horse.

UCLA people who trash talk USC need to think about their comments a bit more deeply. UCLA is funded by the tax payers ultimately. Therefore, the student tuition rates are discounted by the tax payers. While UCLA students talk about the expense of getting an education at USC, the reality is that USC does not drag on the economy. More importantly, it is our alumni and donor base who buy the tickets, donate to the programs, and donate to the university.

On one hand, we have a donor who funds Traveller. When a school has so much donor base that they can fund the mascot with a special fund, you have to really compare that to the rival program where they are asking for tax payers to bail out their programs because of unexpected budgetary shortfalls.

In the context of the athletic programs, it is clear that millions of dollars roll into the university from media coverage. The absence of that revenue is a big problem and the bowl game appearances impact the budgets.

This funding issue is the crux of the “desperation” that is described.

I would be very anxious if I was funding a building campaign, rebuilding of staff, and needing to handle budgets too.

by bonesmccoy on Nov 30, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

USC does not drag on the economy.

That’s an interesting way of putting it. I assume that your underlying assumption is that money spent on the UC system is money that either 1) could have been spent somewhere else, or 2) that because it’s government spending, it’s inherently a drag on the economy.

Given that one of the major – if not the major – costs of running a university is personnel, you could argue that the portion of UC budgets that turn into salaries and thus spending power aren’t exactly wasted – or at least that you can see an effect that is much more direct than the general benefit of having a better educated general population.

None of which really pertains to your broader point, which is that between the lack of an endowment and the vicissitudes of tax revenue availability, the UCs are less well situated to cope with hard times and invest in something that could actually generate more revenue to be self-supporting. That’s why the new media contract is so critical – and I think that UCLA if they’re smart has to be aware of the fact that the rest of the PAC is now loaded for bear as well to pay for coach salaries. That’s going to be the real test for them – since the tide of dollar bills is raising all boats, are they making the right judgments about what it’s going to take to get a top-notch coach.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Nov 30, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I am in complete agreement with you DC. We do love to hate the bruins, but the tide of new revenue will be quite sufficient for them to improve their football lot. Unfortunately for them, they’ve fallen behind the three “premier” California football powers. Next year USC will open the McKay Center and Cal will be playing in brand new Memorial Stadium with all new athletic facilities, and Stanfurd is already spoken for. In all three cases, the facilities are gifts from donors. The real bruin alumni is going to have to step it up dramatically just to keep pace, especially since the cheap-ass BruinsNation loons are not going to be the ones to “move the needle.”

Larry Scott is a spineless, candy ass, limp wristed, silver spoon sucking, tits and ass tennis show pimping, Champagne swilling, rich asshole "Haavahd" tennis player from New York City with ZERO HISTORY OF KNOWING OR CARING A WHIT ABOUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL, AND EVEN LESS ABOUT PAC-10* FOOTBALL.

U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Nov 30, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

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They have to find a Needle first.

by trojanarchitect on Nov 30, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

They can look inside their undies for that, but it will be very hard to find.

Larry Scott is a spineless, candy ass, limp wristed, silver spoon sucking, tits and ass tennis show pimping, Champagne swilling, rich asshole "Haavahd" tennis player from New York City with ZERO HISTORY OF KNOWING OR CARING A WHIT ABOUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL, AND EVEN LESS ABOUT PAC-10* FOOTBALL.

U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Nov 30, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

oooouch!


posted that DG got his waiver for the bRuins to play in a bowl game….

So Loco here is to ucla’s 6-8 Championship Season

Chumps Made Here
UCLA

by trojanarchitect on Nov 30, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Bahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Larry Scott is a spineless, candy ass, limp wristed, silver spoon sucking, tits and ass tennis show pimping, Champagne swilling, rich asshole "Haavahd" tennis player from New York City with ZERO HISTORY OF KNOWING OR CARING A WHIT ABOUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL, AND EVEN LESS ABOUT PAC-10* FOOTBALL.

U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Nov 30, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

DC T- yes

Yes, that is correctly getting to the point of what I am saying.
The government bonds are going to be extremely pricey over the next ten years.
The interest rates can not stay where they are at.
So, either people quite the socialized garbage and quit incentivizing mediocrity.
For all the UCLA money spent in the last ten years, would the renovation at Pauley really change their ROI? I doubt it.
They could double that money and still think PC would have USC ready to play.
What’s going on in Westwood is more significant than the individual coaches and players. Its a systemic issue between private expectations and donations to back it (USC) versus public review by political interests separate from athletic excellence (UCLA).

by bonesmccoy on Nov 30, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Beyond ridiculous

So, UCLA is the inefficient, gray, socialist institution while SC is the Ayn Rand envisioned capitalist utopia? This is pure poppycock. You receive plenty of government cheese. In fact, your institution would fall if it didn’t, just like ours.

EGO TROIORUM MALLEUS SUM

by Bruins102NCAA on Dec 2, 2011 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Lane Kiffin is John Galt

A Quick Note for the Quitters
No comment from this thread will be deleted. You will have to own them when we get it turned around and beat Southern Cal. You will never ride the bandwagon when we come back. Not on BN. GO BRUINS.
by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Dec 2, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the whole argument is ridiculous,

1- USC’s endowment is not that great at 3.5B - look at U Texas (16B), MIT (10B), Harvard (36B), Stanford (17B) etc.
2
The mission of USC and UCLA are different. Public institutions even as the "public funds" diminish as still public.
3- USC like all institutions are dependent on both private and government research funding.
4- I doubt any of us are experts on the funding of either institution.
5- If all projects were being graded on ROI – I bet Galen is failure.

I for one do not hate public institutions. They are needed.

I thought this was a "sports venue" not political or am I wrong?

by trojanarchitect on Dec 2, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

You're right

I’m sorry, I don’t want any debate about sports to devolve into a political argument. I will say, as a compliment to you trojanarchitect, that I think even your pro-USC arguments are well articulated and reasoned.

EGO TROIORUM MALLEUS SUM

by Bruins102NCAA on Dec 2, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay

Thank you Bruin102. I have fun with sports and some kidding between schools is fine, but never feel comfortable berating or be berated. I have loved SC since I was in 6th grade visiting LA.

I think getting off-topic just escalates the ‘yelling’ and really diminishes the real dialogue potential.

by trojanarchitect on Dec 2, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I also agree.

The UC System was a core component of California’s rise, and they are not at fault for California’s economic meltdown. I commend both of you for the way you’ve engaged in this dialogue.

As for bones, I can see where he’s coming from. If you read some of BN’s demands you get the impression they are living in a parallel universe. Calling for the Regents to get involved because Ucla fans are disappointed in the coaching search is indeed ridiculous. That said, I think we all love that CC is not a Trojan version of BN.

Larry Scott is a spineless, candy ass, limp wristed, silver spoon sucking, tits and ass tennis show pimping, Champagne swilling, rich asshole "Haavahd" tennis player from New York City with ZERO HISTORY OF KNOWING OR CARING A WHIT ABOUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL, AND EVEN LESS ABOUT PAC-10* FOOTBALL.

U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Dec 2, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

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I bet Bruin102 would agree that many on BN sound as if they are living another universe. Unfortunately the anger there does not help anyone and neither does blaming SC, etc…

There is no good reason to react the same where here…. I said my piece elsewhere here and ask to cease fire…. even though I haven’t gun in the dialogue.

by trojanarchitect on Dec 2, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

public institutions

I don’t hate public institutions either.
I just dislike when their staff, students, and faculty treat me like I’m inferior when I AM THE PARTY FUNDING THEIR entitlement!

by bonesmccoy on Dec 2, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

okay

I have been reading these postings for a while – I did not see where you were attacked first on a posting here? If so personally, as posted elsewhere here of late (maybe you or Frak), it is better to ignore it or counter with facts not in defiance and name calling.

Believe me I have my touchy points. It is just better to pause and breathe.

by trojanarchitect on Dec 2, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

nothing personal said to you

just stating my opinion and i stand by it.
Not attacking you either… so cease fire …
the bottom line is that California is broke… BN has no business asking for the UC regents to get involved with DG.

by bonesmccoy on Dec 2, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Rick had very good players, but for a ex- QB didn't organize these kids very well.

Plus it seems he wasn’t a good judge of abilities that fit his system and the character of his players. How do you not start your option freshman QB this last year, he is running the pistol with a drop back QBs view of things ( himself) and Prince is not a nimble enough player to run that offense. Plus why did Chow have such a hard time with Rick because like PC he was calling plays and being overrid all the time. It is completely ok to disagree but during a game you can’t go Hellter Skelter, you take care of that stuff in practice. It is just like Rick yelling at his QBs after a bad series on the sidelines while on TV or in public, you just don’t reprimand a player or employee in the public eye it is not good for the psyche.

Yes we can't play in a Bowl and that is lucky for the rest of College FB' but next year we at USC will dominate.

by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 30, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

The big question is

Why in the hell did Slick switch to the Pistol? He didn’t have a stud like Kaepernick. Worst decision he made while at uclol.

Oh, Mama, can this really be the end
To be stuck inside of Mobile
With the Memphis blues again
-R. Zimmerman

by gnossos on Nov 30, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Right you are my loco one and he is under the radar up there.

But in a major bowl conference it will be tough not to play by the rules and have to play against better teams and coaches almost every week. But heck I say bring him on, the Trojans have beaten many of great coaches and teams what’s another matter.

Yes we can't play in a Bowl and that is lucky for the rest of College FB' but next year we at USC will dominate.

by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 30, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks to the McKay center

They now have the worst football facilities in town. The fact that they might actually be spending the money to get an elite coach does mean that the rivalry might be on its way back. Its going to take a while, but Harbaugh, Kiffin, and Carroll proved that turning a program around and starting from nothing can be done within 2 seasons. The big part of the equation is the quarterback. Harbaugh had Andrew Luck, Carroll had Palmer, and Kiffin had Barkley. ucla must recruit a big time QB, and keep him healthy, in order to move up the ladder. No more gimmicky offenses that put the QB at risk as a runner. ucla has only had 1 season that I can remember when their 1st string QB made it through the season. Even then he got injured in the Sun Bowl. I hope the bruins get it figured out. Right now its getting boring.

by frak on Nov 30, 2011 9:06 AM PST reply actions  

UCLA FB recruiting

Frak,
I agree with your posting.
I just don’t see how UCLA will be able to recruit that level of QB without having an offensive line to keep him in the game. The QB injuries at UCLA are really reflective of how the QB is being put at risk (as you stated).
We don’t let MB7 run much because we don’t want an opponent’s TJ7 to take him out of the game.
On the other hand, the O-line at USC was doing incredible work during the second half of the season. Without MB7 having the time in the pocket, #2 and #9 would not be 20 yards downfield and in the clear from the defensive safeties. It’s the extra 1-2 seconds in the pocket that gives USC that offensive production.
The O-line for UCLA did a good job during the game. I think Kevin Prince had something like 200-300 yards passing in the game. Prince did his job. The zero on the board didn’t have as much to do with Prince. It had to do with Neuheisel choosing not to kick FG’s.
UCLA has a few more QB’s in the barn also.
This is the reason that my view is that the challenge for UCLA is deeper than the talent on the field. This is a board level issue and an executive leadership issue at UCLA.

by bonesmccoy on Nov 30, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Ever since Donahue left the injuries have hit ucla hard every year, what is Spaulding field on a beareal ground or something .

Yes we can't play in a Bowl and that is lucky for the rest of College FB' but next year we at USC will dominate.

by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 30, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

No to Petersen says Boise State AD

No kidding…
Boise State wants to keep Petersen in town.

LOL

Anyone want to work for the State of California and with Dan “Coach Graveyard” Petersen?

LULZ

Laughing harder today than yesterday… not at UCLA’s players, but at the ridiculous guy taking $700,000 from California taxpayers for overseeing an 80 yard practice field with “50” on the middle.

by bonesmccoy on Dec 2, 2011 11:23 AM PST reply actions  

Yes 102 we are the evil institution and we really get more State and Government money than your great utopia.

Sorry dude but I would think that Frak and Bones would know a lot more about funding than you, since they have some years on you and really aren’t as petty.

Yes we can't play in a Bowl and that is lucky for the rest of College FB' but next year we at USC will dominate.

by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 2, 2011 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

........

I am curious just having years makes one an expert?
I must be an expert I have plenty of years behind me.
Frak & Bones fund universities?

by trojanarchitect on Dec 2, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have an issue with you or anyone here. It was a simple question not an accusation. I am just glad that at 58 I must an expert too…

cheers

by trojanarchitect on Dec 2, 2011 9:50 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry then I guess I didn't get it and I have always thought that what you say is great and listen, but 102 is all of 28.

Plus even after he got banned here by Para ( you really have to tic off him to get knocked out) and then after he pleaded to get back here—I have seen him make comments at BN still saying the stuff that got him banned here—-thats why the petty statement. Plus what I meant by experience is that guys like bones, frak. loco, G, and you have been around this area for a long time which you have seen the growth of southern cal and the goings on.

Yes we can't play in a Bowl and that is lucky for the rest of College FB' but next year we at USC will dominate.

by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 3, 2011 7:21 AM PST up reply actions  

okay

Ah… I certainly do not know that back history on BN. The few times I have read anything there I just leave shaking my head for the most part. It is not worth the time. I am more interested and entertained here.

On the petty point – A friend on Facebook has bRuin friend who regularly berates SC as a sport…. I responded to correct some factual errors - she was really hostile and later she responded that it was a private discussion..— I said she should do via email then….. and said please don’t run in over in a crosswalk as I found we are about 4 blocks from each other…
Now I just do not respond – as Chris, my friend, is capable and puts up with her ranting… I would not.

Alos thanks for the note of appreciation….

by trojanarchitect on Dec 3, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Loud Bruins on FB

TA – I agree with your new response pattern.
I do have many Bruin contacts on FB through community organizations that I volunteered in over the years.

What was more funny was reading FB on Sunday after the game. These Bruins were literally on FB wondering where all the Trojans were.

The Bruins on FB seem to have concluded that either we were (1) hungover from the partying or (2) trying to be cool with the Bruins and not rub it in.

Both are true. But, missing from their conclusion is that most USC people do not respond to the Bruin taunts any more. After so many years of a lopsided game, the rivalry just …well… ISN’T any longer.

One of the guys who is slightly older than me noted that the USC people no longer view UCLA as a rivalry game. I agree with this view. It is UCLA who views USC as a rival. But, the game is not up to a rivalry standard.

Really Stanford and Oregon are PAC-12 rivals. Notre Dame is a historic national rivalry.

But, UCLA is not even a cross-city rivalry. Therefore, the UCLA fans miss the point. When USC people wear USC colors, we aren’t doing it to taunt UCLA. Frankly, I don’t really care what UCLA people think about me wearing USC stuff. I wear USC stuff because I can and do wear it knowing that USC MY school. USC is MY history and MY achievements run directly through USC.

UCLA people who rant about USC fans being arrogant miss the entire point. USC alumni like me enjoy seeing the pride of a UCLA student or alumnus. The UCLA alumni should be proud to be affiliated with top notch school like UCLA. On the other hand, the fact that some of these people would ask “where are the USC fans on FB to taunt me?” shows that USC fans are neither arrogant nor intent on hurting the feelings from our UCLA alumni co-workers and friends or neighbors.

To the contrary, I complement them on attending UCLA and the outstanding record of UCLA.

It’s not so much that I want to taunt the UCLA alumni. It’s more that I just don’t care to talk with them about their football. It’s more fun to talk with my family members who graduated from Ivy League and Stanford and USC. I hope that’s not ‘arrogant’.

by bonesmccoy on Dec 3, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Likewise I don't wear USC gear to taunt anyone I wear it to support the trojans on game days

I really don’t care what ucla does other than FB, BB, tennis and mostly tennis to see how i will write up match against the bRuins——and i will say we should take all out tennis matches this year again vs ucla.

Yes we can't play in a Bowl and that is lucky for the rest of College FB' but next year we at USC will dominate.

by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 3, 2011 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree ---

It is more about taking pride in ones own university not denigrating another one to feel better.

by trojanarchitect on Dec 3, 2011 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Petersen denies UCLA

It’s a big man to tell UCLA that your $20 million dollar deal is not high enough.
Meanwhile, Boise State is building a stadium for this guy.
It just goes to show that $$$ can’t buy everyone.

by bonesmccoy on Dec 2, 2011 10:43 PM PST reply actions  

Really ucla shot itself in the foot when they let Toledo go and then again Dorrall, no patience at that school.

The Weasel might love ucla but he shot himself in the foot when he let Walker Leave and hired Chow. For one thing Chow an neu fought all the time so it if your not going to let the coach then why bring him in and he needed Walker for Defense which has never been the same since he left. I really don’t get Neuheisel he was a drop back QB and coached the same so why switch to an option style attack in which he had any idea of how to run. Just because 20% of college FB has gone option doesn’t make it easier to do, it is extremely difficult to run, heck even Oregon has to use a gimmick to make it work.

Yes we can't play in a Bowl and that is lucky for the rest of College FB' but next year we at USC will dominate.

by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 3, 2011 7:31 AM PST up reply actions  

ESPN comments this morning on Game Day

The Game Day crew noted that hiring of new HC’s at AZ and WSU introduce more O-minded strategy into the PAC-12.

Kirk Herb noted the quandry that UCLA has pickled itself in.
Paraphrasing the Herbstreit analysis, I think he said something like “I don’t know who UCLA is going to find now”.
Later in the show he said something like “how can you send a 6-7 team to a bowl game??!!!”

Alot of CFB faithful really have deep questions for PAC-12 and NCAA at this point.

BCS or not, the NCAA CFB system is terribly broken when a great (and I DO MEAN GREAT) team like the 2011 USC team can not take the field in post-season while the UCLA 6-7 team gets a post-season.

Does NCAA and PAC-12 have no shame?

by bonesmccoy on Dec 3, 2011 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Kirk Herbstreit -

One the few truly balanced commentator while still loyal to his school.

Then there is Holtz…. I need coffee now.

by trojanarchitect on Dec 3, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

If you can justify banning these players from a bowl; that still doesn’t explain letting a 6-7 LOSER play. Bizaro world. SC hate is still out there and WHO F-ING CARES.

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by WE ARE SC on Dec 3, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

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