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A few thoughts on Lane Kiffin

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People in the Trojan Nation have strong feelings both for and against the hiring of Lane Kiffin. But, ten years ago, didn't we have our reservations about Pete Carroll too?

Reflecting on the games I've seen (been at all home games in person and missed watching the ASU game), I can see the growth in the men on the field and in the leadership over the program.

There's a story unfolding for our team this year and remember the chess pieces that Kiff got dealt back in 2009?

After the baloney handed down from Larry Scott at PAC-12 HQ a few weeks ago, I have to say that Lane Kiffin really is showing his response on the field.

I'm personally glad that Lane Kiffin made the comments regarding officiating in the PAC-12. There's no way that a major athletic conference should tolerate slip-shod officiating. In fact, the officiating has been so filled with errors that I considered starting a thread dedicated to lousy calls or missed calls by officials at the USC games. Kiffin's comments were accurate, which should be worth something to the conference. When you have a major program in a major conference, you would think that those observations (not criticisms) would be taken seriously. But, instead the conference commissioner high sticks our Head Coach and our program into submission by sending a monetary fine to the head coach and then suspends one of the most outstanding players for a game. Did we see this type of enforcement with any other player when they did the same thing to Owusu? The silence from the PAC-12 commissioner is deafening. The officiating is lousy and the whole nation sees it every week on ABC/ESPN. You would think that the PAC-12 would wake up and build a program to improve play review and improve the PAC-12 field judges interactions.

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But, I actually want to focus on my observations of Kiffin as a leader. When Kiff started, my best recollection of him was the UCLA v. USC game in the Rose Bowl under Pete Carroll when our lacking play calling and weak clock management cost us a shot at the National Championship. That situation had me so fired up that I was on a different board asking who was responsible for that debacle. The fan base answer was Lane Kiffin. I was none too pleased to see him move on to the Oakland Raiders because I was just missing Norm Chow so much. Fast forward two years and Kiff is in Tennessee learning to sing from the Rocky Top and the SEC real politics starts spewing their Southern Hospitality. Meanwhile, NCAA is spewing their politic and hospitality upon our program and starts equating hearsay with liability. Before I know it, we lose our Assistant Coaches to UW and Pete Carroll to the NFL Seahawks. Mike Garrett is suddenly out also. It was looking mighty cloudy and cold on Fig.

Then, Lane Kiffin shows up.... oh no I think... we're going to have "that guy" back? I thought he was on contract? I thought he was learning SEC lingo and Rocky Top?

No, no... was this the same guy who had Al Davis yelling down from the box at him? Was this the same guy who was timidly calling behind Pete Carroll?

Nope. It wasn't. It was a different man. Unlike the younger Kiff who was learning, this Kiff was different. He's in the South Bay running in the morning at the beach. His wife and kids are at home in the USC neighborhood again.

Kiffin has really grown as a leader and a man. I can't help but see a long-run at USC for Lane Kiffin.

When Kiff started at Tennessee, he was taken to task by the media in the South and it set up friction in the SEC. This was not Pete Carroll working the LA media. Pete would run the sidelines and pump his fists in the air. He would smile his boyish grin and look the part of a Newport Beach blonde and a vigorous Redondo Beach dude. Where had our charismatic leader gone?

I would sit up in the Season Ticket holders section watching Kiff all game. Pete would wear the USC cardinal and gold and beige slacks and pace the sidelines like a hyperactive adult. Kiffin stands on the sidelines, sometimes not moving at all. He holds his playcard over his mouth and is constantly looking down at the card. He hardly moves at all compared to Pete.

Take a look at Kiffin on FSN. Pete Carroll was dynamic and rapid fire with the comments. When I watch Kiffin, I almost fall asleep from Kiffin's almost hyponotic monotone talking about the other team and slow rate of speech. Last year I began to compare the Pete Carroll Trojan teams to Pat Riley's Magic/Kareem Laker dream teams. And, I began to wonder.

Well, this year I stopped wondering when we played Utah. When we played Stanford, I realized that the Trojan faithful are watching something very special.

Kiffin and his entourage are writing a new chapter in USC's mighty legacy. This legacy is being written over the span of years, not minutes. It is written in the energy of our freshman and sophomore players. It is seen when Barkley throws to them or when Kalil and Gallippo shoulder up. It is also seen when Coach O and Monte Kiffin are doing their work. I can see it from my vantage point. I can look right down the coaching line from my seat and I watch their energy and their focus all game.

With all the adversity off field, I have to say that I am more proud of watching my USC Trojans this year than any other year. The thing that makes me the proudest isn't the blow-out score tonight against Washington.

I am proudest of the fact that our players show class on the field. We do not go pulling facemasks, horsecollars, or personal fouls. Our penalty rate is the lowest in ratio than at any other time in my memory. The guys are really striving to play consistent ball and clean ball too. This is not "just win baby". It's win right and leave no doubt.

I judged Lane Kiffin too harshly five years ago. He was learning at that time. There is alot more to learn. But, when have you ever seen a team with ten years of sanctions, out of bowl contention by choice of the NCAA, dealing with upcoming scholarship losses, and then look like we did over the last few games?

Never? right?

That's what I'm saying tonight. I feel really blessed to be watching this staff move forward.

Hey Coach... I'm so glad you chose to come back to USC. I know you said it was an honor, but tonight, the honor is all ours. Thank you for bringing your approach to USC.

And, by the way, keep covering your mouth when you're talking to the booth. 

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Conquest Chronicles' writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Conquest Chronicles' writers or editors.

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well said

Although I liked the hire initially, it’s becoming clear (at least to me) that he IS a damn good coach, and those who argue otherwise hate him just because he is Lane Kiffin.

Glad to have you on the board!

Fight On! Beat everybody but us!

by USCLink on Nov 12, 2011 10:45 PM PST reply actions  

Actually.......he's......

LANE F**KING KIFFEN! :)

Oh, Mama, can this really be the end
To be stuck inside of Mobile
With the Memphis blues again
-R. Zimmerman

by gnossos on Nov 12, 2011 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice comment Bones!

"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Nov 13, 2011 12:23 AM PST reply actions  

thanks Agrippa

Thank you for the nod.
And somehow I must have picked up Andy Rooney’s Katra when I wrote this blog post.
It was really surprising when I went to Sports Illustrated and clicked on USC Trojans to find this thread as the number 3 thread at the CNNSI website.
That made me feel like a regular Howard Cosell.

by bonesmccoy on Nov 15, 2011 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

You might enjoy reading the Paragon's report and reader comments when CLK was hired.

BREAKING: [UPDATED It is OFFICIAL] ESPN Reporting Lane Kiffin to be Named USC Head Coach
Most of us were pretty happy with the hire, and the real complaints came from outsiders. I was Locoweed 1.1 back in the day.

"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?

by M. AGRIPPA on Nov 13, 2011 12:37 AM PST reply actions  

Got the wrong venue here we at CC liked the hire of Kiffin.

Yes we can't play in a Bowl and that is lucky for the rest of College FB' but next year we at USC will dominate.

by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 13, 2011 4:30 AM PST reply actions  

I know that most of the youth movement a tUSC wanted some coach that would cost a arm and leg, body, but i feel you got to have a young growing coach.

Kiffin had both head coaching jobs at the Pro and College level, also worked at USC for a few years. He is one of the best recruiters in college football, young and knows how to pick the right staff. Unlike PC he doesn’t hire Little Boys to do a mans work (see brendan carroll), he looks for the good ones.

Yes we can't play in a Bowl and that is lucky for the rest of College FB' but next year we at USC will dominate.

by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 13, 2011 4:40 AM PST reply actions  

I was onboard from the beginning

but this is a great write up — it sums up the way I have felt watching Lane coach. I had many of the doubts you did, I was just happy that someone who really cared about USC took the job.

by ilium55 on Nov 13, 2011 6:58 AM PST reply actions  

"The Wolf" Said It Best

Regarding Coach Kiffin, I feel I must quote Harvey Keitel from “Pulp Fiction.” “Let’s not start sucking each others’ d**ks just yet.” I think Lane has done pretty well thus far, especially given the bad hand he was dealt by the NCAA. However, I think we’ll only be able to say with certainty that he’s The Guy a year or two from now. At the moment, it’s still too soon to say, at least in my view.

Wishlist Item: John Wayne's boogieboard from his USC football days. :-P

by Glenn X on Nov 13, 2011 8:07 AM PST reply actions  

LMFAO!

Nice one, sir! :-D

Wishlist Item: John Wayne's boogieboard from his USC football days. :-P

by Glenn X on Nov 14, 2011 7:04 AM PST up reply actions  

response to Glenn

Thanks for your reply to my posting.
I was thinking about that posture before I wrote my blog post.
But, in sitting in the Stadium, I’ve watched this guy at each of the home games.
He is real cool under pressure.
The game could be tight and the play really important, but the guy stands holding the play card close to his chest and shows alot of confidence in his crew. Each team member, coach, player, or otherwise, seems to know what they’re supposed to be doing.
So, even if those parts are moving, he’s commanding a calm presence.
That calm presence and strong leadership is soft spoken but carrying a big stick.
I like that right now because I think the school needs to speak on the field and leave no doubts.

This Oregon game will be that telling time.

If the game is a blow out, I’ll be real disappointed. Somehow, I don’t think we’re going to see a blow out.

by bonesmccoy on Nov 14, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Introspection has been the Trojan zeitgeist during Kiffin era

and eventually we get past the outside noise of SEC Kiffin haters. Overall, we can appreciate that he is navigating through a declining storm and avoid any traps that lay waiting ahead.

Even back in the day of Trojan Football online there was some Kiffin bashing going on when he took over for Norm Chow.

I feel like Kiffing has this program a little above target considering the circumstances.

by Flayfluflah on Nov 13, 2011 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

Kiffin is the Perfect Hire

Kiffin is the Perfect Hire – DFWT 1/13/10

Lane Kiffin is a wunderkind. Son of a legend. Born into coaching. Mentored by the greatest defensive mind in football. Mentored by the greatest college football coach of the modern era. Mentored by the greatest offensive coordinator in college football history.

Lane Kiffin is young, energetic, and charismatic. With only 90 days on the job and coming off a losing season, Kiff pulled a top 15 recruiting class at Tenn last season and had a top 10 class going this season. PC recommended Kiff for the job. A lead scout at Rivals says, "Kiffin is the best evaluator of talent that he has ever seen. This is a homerun hire for USC." Coaches like Ed O and Norm are very willing to work under Kiff.

In 2008, Tenn finished with a losing record and 3-5 in conference. They lost badly to Florida (30-6), UGA (26-14) and Bama (29-9). There were no signature victories in 2008. Tenn was a program on the decline.

In 2009, Kiff came in with fire in his belly. He has acknowledged that he "acted" a bit to bring confidence and swagger back to Vol Nation. He called out the big boys in conference, Saban and Meyer. The Vols in 2009 improved trememdously throughout the season, losing a much closer than the score game to Florida by virtually shutting down Tebow (23-13). They should have beaten natl champ Bama if not for a missed penalty on a blocked FG (12-10). And, the Vols spanked rival UGA (45-19) for their signature win. They finished 2nd in their division with a 5-3 record in a very strong SEC.

Lane Kiffin is a young star in coaching. This is USC’s Jim Harbaugh hire, except Lane is a Trojan and he has much better football smarts than Harbaugh. Lane will be at USC for at least 5 years and win 2 natl championships. The naysayers will be proven wrong.

USC lucked out and captured lighting in a bottle for the 2nd time./blockquote>

A Quick Note for the Quitters
No comment from this thread will be deleted. You will have to own them when we get it turned around and beat Southern Cal. You will never ride the bandwagon when we come back. Not on BN. GO BRUINS.
by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT

by DFWTrojan on Nov 14, 2011 9:17 AM PST reply actions  

When he was hired

One of the main things I was excited about was his ability to develop and utilize our WRs, a real position of strength for us when he was here under Pete and a position where I think his absence was noticeable once he left

I’m quite pleased with the progress so far.

by Boy Howdy on Nov 16, 2011 9:22 AM PST reply actions  

USC 38 OREGON 35

Okay, enough of the Duck.

I know it’s a let down to play UCLA after playing a quality ranked team like Oregon, but let’s give UCLA some respect.

We need to get focused and put this season away.

USC has made a statement about the PAC-12 championship game. It won’t have the southern champion.

And, to Emmert, if you won’t Enforce equally, the men of Troy may want to enforce on you.

I strongly suggest that Mr. Emmert grow some back bone and learn to discipline Penn State immediately.

by bonesmccoy on Nov 19, 2011 8:40 PM PST reply actions  

USC 50 UCLA 0

Holy Travellers !
LOL
End of sentence and end of the season.
PERIOD.

USC = Southern PAC-12 Champions.

by bonesmccoy on Nov 27, 2011 12:58 AM PST reply actions  

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