Kiffin responds to USC's defensive woes
Lane Kiffin is obviously aware of the defensive issues currently plauging the team.
Giving up 84-points over the past two games will do that to you.
It appears to many that the defense has regressed more than it has progressed from last season. You would think that with one full season under their belts that some of the coverage schemes and assignments would have sunk in by now.
But it doesn't look that way.
I have said before that Kiffin has to have the courage to sit players that aren't playing up to par even when the talent might drop off. the MLB position comes to mind. Galippo just isn't there and it doesn't matter why at this point.
I realize that Dawson is out with an injury but is that our only option at MLB?
Kiffin's explanation is an interesting tell...
It was apparent Sunday that Kiffin is sensitive to questions about the defensive schemes. He referred to reading "15 articles" that claim USC runs a "Tampa 2" or "Cover 2" defense made famous by father, defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin when he worked for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
"We played Cover 2 on four of 72 snaps a couple weeks ago," Lane Kiffin said. "Everyone thinks we play Tampa 2. We rarely do that."
Kiffin said USC actually plays a Cover 3 defense more, which moves safety T.J. McDonald near the line of scrimmage.
"People always say we play Tampa 2," Galippo said. "And we aren't even playing Tampa 2."
Fine, but whatever scheme Kiffin is running it sure isn't working.
I got a chuckle that Kiffin read 15 articles about what people are saying about his defense. I wonder if he read mine?
Look, I have never claimed to know the X's and O's of the game. I am perfectly happy to let the coaches run their schemes. But at this point its semantics, whatever you want to call it, it just looks bad. Outsiders not knowing the difference really doesn't matter when you give an opposing receiver a 5-10 yard cushion on 3rd or 4th and short.
So, I guess it goes back to the original question...Just what is the staff doing to prepare the team from week to week?
I found this passage intriguing as well...
Fans who want more daring coverages or blitzes probably will be disappointed because Kiffin said you can only install a defensive game plan to shake up an offense when you have great players such as former USC linebacker Brian Cushing or former Tennessee safety Eric Berry.
So, does that mean we don't have any great players on defense?
Just askin'.
After two recruiting classes under his belt how should we assess the talent that Kiffin has brought in?
Monte offers up his observations as well...
Monte Kiffin said it quietly Saturday, in passing, almost as if it were an established fact.
The 2011 USC Trojans' defense, Kiffin said, is better than the 2010 USC Trojans' defense -- and sizably better, at that. According to Kiffin, a 71-year-old considered a defensive mastermind, his unit was just in the process of finding its way early in this season and on its way to sustained success.
But is it really? Is this defense really all that much better than last year's?
The coaches say yes. But the evidence, in the fallout of Arizona's 41-point performance on Saturday, says no. In 13 games last season, the Trojans gave up 5,200 total yards to their opponents, an average of exactly 400 yards per game. In five games this season, the Trojans have given up 1,898 total yards, an average of roughly 380. Points figures are similar, too.
Last year, USC opponents averaged 26.7 points. This year, they're averaging 26.4 points.
Pretty much says it all.
I don't what Monte thinks is better between this year and last year but the numbers don't lie...and we have all seen opposing offenses pick this 2011 USC defense apart.
To be fair Kiffin is in a lose/lose here. Say nothing and people will be critical. Explain it like he did here and we'll ask more questions and be more critical.
Either way the results are that something just isn't right with this defense.
One other thing that comes to mind. Coach O has been extremely quiet in all of this. The current D-Line doesn't play like the Coach O D-lines of the past...and Coach O is the DC right?
I am not looking to assess blame here just asking the questions that a number of people are sure to ask. I am happy with the win, but its not like Arizona is a great defensive team. So, what happens when USC goes up against a better defense as the schedule moves forward?
There are only three answers I can think of that are at the root of the problem...1) Scheme. 2) Coaching. 3) Talent.
I don't know what exactly needs fixing but something has to give...
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30 seconds of reading about cover 3
informs me of the following…
1) you need good tacklers to be effective
I’ll just stop right there. If that first guy doesn’t tackle, it’s a free pass to the next level. Cover 3 certain has its pluses, but to use it so often really makes us look vanilla and exposes our tackling issues.
Yah I just read an article about how Kiff said that Galippo had to play the entire game, because Dawson was injured.
Come on Lane don’t we have other LBs on the team that play a few downs, is this guy just stupid or just stubborn? I have come to the conclusion that Lane and Daddy are the father and son version of Dumb and Dumber. I can see some players leaving after this season if he continues to coach narrow minded and he is not replaced. USC has had 2 great recruiting classes the last 2 years and this is what it ends up, I would say Lane and Neuhiesal aren’t far from each other in that regard.
Who--What--Slim Shady---Thats the duckies and Kelly maybe they should put their plays up in brail..
by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 3, 2011 7:24 AM PDT reply actions
The other two starting LBs are freshmen.
Don’t we have other LBs on the team that play a few downs? No, with two LBs out with injuries, we literally don’t have anyone who can sub for Galippo.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
USC has had 2 great recruiting classes the last 2 years and this is what it ends up, I would say Lane and Neuhiesal aren’t far from each other in that regard.
I hope you’re kidding. What players are holding the defense back? Galippo, Starling, Torin Harris. Pete’s guys.
What players are actually stepping up on D? Robey, Bailey, Brown, Perry, McDonald. Dawson will be a great player. A lot of Lane’s guys.
And nevermind that some of Pete’s 4 and 5 star guys are huge disappointments on the O-Line while Martin and Walker are getting starts as true freshmen. Or that Woods leads the nation in receiving yards. Or that Lee is a surefire Freshman All-American.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
Good point
I didn’t think of that but it’s a good analysis of the teams ups and downs this season.
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
by USCLink on Oct 3, 2011 10:46 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Injury of Simmons and move of Kennard hurt too
I fully supported the move of Kennard, but you’ve got to wonder if we shouldn’t consider moving him back to LB until Dawson is healthy again. I guess Madden and Sarao are still a bit too young to contribute much. And, Kelly and Andrew must be a big step below Galippo, although that is hard to imagine.
A Quick Note for the Quitters
No comment from this thread will be deleted. You will have to own them when we get it turned around and beat Southern Cal. You will never ride the bandwagon when we come back. Not on BN. GO BRUINS.
by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT
Actually I am not SO PLAY Them what's the difference the guys playing now aren't getting a rest and are getting beat up, got to use the players sometime.
so you saying go with only 22 guys forget the rest hey that would save on scollies, you go ahead and believe in Kiff I have determined him a notch below. But I do feel he is better than the Weasel.
Who--What--Slim Shady---Thats the duckies and Kelly maybe they should put their plays up in brail..
by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 3, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
You missed the point
Lane is playing them, and the players he recruited have stepped up and been huge contributors. A lot of the disappointing players people are complaining about are the juniors and seniors Pete recruited.
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
by USCLink on Oct 3, 2011 5:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry but this going know were what we have here is two different opinions----
I am not saying bench the Galippo’s and other PC left overs I am saying give them rest her and there so by the second half they can be effective. As a Coach you are PAID to COACH UP your team of players if you aren’t doing that you are stealing, as in Ricky Neu he is a thief in all aspects of Life.
Who--What--Slim Shady---Thats the duckies and Kelly maybe they should put their plays up in brail..
by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 4, 2011 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure you read anything I wrote...
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
I realize all that you said and I know of the players like Lee and Woods--
I am talking about JUST giving the defensive players that are being over played a rest here and there, as the HC Lane sign a contract to COACH his players so why isn’t there some out of the remaining 40 players that have been coached to contribute.
I think you played or are currently a band member and are you not coached to become better each day? Would you have gone to USC to sit and rot, know you signed on to get educated and better.
Who--What--Slim Shady---Thats the duckies and Kelly maybe they should put their plays up in brail..
by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 4, 2011 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I've actually been thinking about this alot the last couple of days.
Let me say 1st:
1. The D has real problems
2. It does not seem to be getting better
With those statements as givens, I think what Kiffin is saying has some merit, and frankly displays a great deal of candor about this year’s squad. Monte Kiffin may not have the most aggressive scheme, he may not relate well to the kids, but he knows football and can assess talent. The fact of the matter is that the real difference between this D and previous better squads is tackling. If our guys wrapped up properly, AZ scores at least 14 less points. That’s a blow out. The second problem we have is recovery speed at LB. Malaluga played his entire career out of position. He bit on misdirection, overran plays, and couldn’t read a screen to save his life, but he was a great MLB. Why? He had the speed and aggression to recover (mostly) from mistakes. Galippo does not. Do you really think if Burfict or Te’o was playing MLB we wouldn’t have a stouter D?
Our problem is not all scheme, its lack of depth at LB and lack of fundamentals as much as anything else. A DC should have position coaches that teach fundamentals, like tackling. If you tackle well, most schemes will be OK.
Do you really think if Burfict or Te’o was playing MLB we wouldn’t have a stouter D?
I think that if we had Burfict played for us the penalty situation would be even worse than it is… but on the rare occasions when I choke back the bile and watch Notre Dame, it bums me out that Te’o plays for them.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
You are right about the penalties
although I’m note sure it could really be much worse in that regard — maybe the yards would just be more evenly distributed. But we should remember that Rey was no stranger to the personal foul call.
As far as I'm concerned...
That explains everything! :D
"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?
The glass half full take....
is that we have only lost 1 game and the D was not the primary reason for that loss. Sure, the D did not play well against ASU, but we would have won if not for the offensive mistakes.
The D did look better than last year in our 1st 3 games. Not good, but better. The D has not lost a game for us yet, while they lost several games for us last season. The tackling is better, the secondary is not giving up big plays. We will only face 1 QB as good as Nick Foles the remainder of the season. Dawson will hopefully be ready for Cal.
Hope remains that the D can and will improve, the offense will sustain its Zona performance, and we can scratch out a hard fought 9 win season with abundant youth and depth issues. That’s the rosy scenario. It’s possible.
A Quick Note for the Quitters
No comment from this thread will be deleted. You will have to own them when we get it turned around and beat Southern Cal. You will never ride the bandwagon when we come back. Not on BN. GO BRUINS.
by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT
Always the optimist
Just because the D hasn’t lost a game for us yet this season doesn’t mean it’s not coming.
Awesome critique, Para!
Nothing to add, you said it all brotha.
Something tells me I’m REALLY GOING TO HATE THIS HALLOWEEN too!
Between Oct. 13 and Nov. 19
Do we lose 5 out of 6?
Ouch, that would be the most painful 5 weeks since Paul Hackett’s Petros Papadakis-captained 0-5 stretch of Sept. 30, 2000 – October 28, 2000. And Ed Orgeron was the D-Line coach for that bumpy ride. But we only gave up 20 points per game . . .
If we pull a 1-5 stretch, Coach Kiffin will think his Raider days were easy.
What is our slate of games?
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
by USCLink on Oct 3, 2011 2:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
So Kiffin basically said “You guys are wrong, we actually suck with a different scheme than the Tampa 2,” without actually addressing how improvements will be made to the defense
Fight on!
EMAW!
LOL - Superb summation!
So you’re a Trojan and a Preakness winner – if horse racing was an NCAA sport we’d be hanging even more banners. :)
We win at least 2
IMO. All but Oregon and Stanford are winnable games in my humble opinion.
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by USCLink on Oct 3, 2011 2:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
80% colorado
60% cal, 50% washington, 50% nd, 5-10% Oregon and Stanford. Figure we win at least 2, possibly 4.
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by USCLink on Oct 3, 2011 2:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We can score 40 on Stanford
That makes it a winnable game no matter how bad our defense is.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
I go with 3-3
Cal, Colo, Wash = W
2 shootouts and a rare defensive struggle in Boulder due to the weather. But admittedly the crystal ball is dusty.
Are you guys trolls? We are going 10-2 w/ a loss in Eugene!

A Quick Note for the Quitters
No comment from this thread will be deleted. You will have to own them when we get it turned around and beat Southern Cal. You will never ride the bandwagon when we come back. Not on BN. GO BRUINS.
by Nestor on Sep 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT
Tex is right though . . .
10-2 for sure. And the Eugene loss happens only because a 64-yd FG hits the crossbar and bounces eastward as time expires.
Close enough, except we're not going to beat those despicable domers
"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?
So you’re saying it’s a bloody mess?
"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
U feeling Loco?
but boy oh boy are you relieved when it does
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

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