An Interesting Back Story from the Oregon/Tenn. Game
by Paragon SC on Sep 13, 2010 6:27 PM PDT
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PrintI caught this on one of the boards a little earlier...(emphasis added)
Oregon’s offense didn’t know what to do with itself. The defense sure did.
Saturday’s first quarter was marred by a 70-minute weather delay that interrupted the No. 7 Ducks’ 48-13 win at Tennessee. A lightning storm in the vicinity of Neyland Stadium forced the teams from the field with 8:53 left in the first quarter, and they returned an hour later for a 10-minute warm-up period prior to the resumption of play.
To that point, Oregon’s offense had yet to take a snap, owing to a fumbled kickoff return between Tennessee possessions. The defense, however, was able to review runs of 31 and 21 yards it allowed on the first plays of the Vols’ two field-goal drives.
How were they able to "review" those runs?
Here is the rule...
"Motion pictures, any type of film, facsimile machines, videotapes, photographs, writing-transmission
machines and computers may not be used by coaches or for coaching purposes anytime during the game or between periods."
Prohibited Field Equipment
ARTICLE 9.
a. Television replay or monitor equipment is prohibited at the sidelines, press box or other locations within the playing enclosure for coaching purposes during the game. Motion pictures, any type of
film, facsimile machines, videotapes, photographs, writing-transmission machines and computers may not be used by coaches or for coaching purposes anytime during the game or between periods.
b. Only voice communication between the press box and team area is permitted. Where press-box space is not adequate, only voice communication may originate from any area in the stands between the25-yard lines extended to the top of the stadium. No other communication for coaching purposes is permitted anywhere else.
c. Media communication equipment, including cameras, sound devices, computers and microphones, is prohibited on or above the field, or in or above the team area (Rule 2-31-1).
The OP who is a friend heard this on ESPN this morning...I didn't hear it myself and I have not had a chance to talk him directly but it is interesting.
I may be nothing, but......
Just thought I would throw it out there.
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It will be interesting to see if this story has legs
Considering the Vols felt a common bond with the Ducks in their hatred of USC, it would be ironic if the Ducks stabbed them in the back.
who says we hate USC?
I don’t care much for Kiffin, but we’ve never really had a problem with SC.
Hate is a word saved for Washington.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
What did Kiffin ever do to Oregon?
aside from the sports media’s narrative Kiffin = bad guy, seriously why is he any different than Mike Stoops or Dan Hawkins for an Oregon fan?
It's bandwagon thing...
Kiffin is the flavor of the month…
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
No...I didn't like Kiffen when he was at Tennessee.
There is definitely some skewed coverage when it comes to Kiffin, but he made it very very easy to do so by his past actions.
yep
all the trash talking when he was at Tennessee really turned people off of him…..
There’s also something anti-American about continuing to get promotions when you haven’t actually accomplished anything.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
I can go in a lot of different directions with that statement...but I won't...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
This is just a case of you supporting your guy
which is what you should do. We’d do exactly the same thing if it were the opposite.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
You misunderstood my response...
Let’s just say it’s bigger than an SC thing…
I will leave it at that…
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Really why didn't you feel he was not qualified, I think he put in his dues.
If you think he is to young then I YOU need to make a rule and enforce My little Quack-Quack. On another note why don’t you run for president maybe you can control the USA.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 14, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I just saying go Duck off
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by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 14, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Well that would be hard because she has been ashes for 19 years.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 14, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Easy gents...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
I understand this is your blog, but this comment should be addressed to socal
Everyone was having a good discussion until his attacks.
Really how did I attack little old you, please explain.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 14, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Put another way...
Best way to avaoid it is to stay on subject and not attack our coach…this post had nothing to do with him…
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
I understand but we are a bit tired of the ad hominem attacks on Kiffin for every little thing
We want to support him even in the face of many reviling him.
He has our support until he screws it up. He is as qualified as the next guy.
I didn’t think the the comment was too bad.
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
All I am asking is why what where how is kiff not worthy of the position.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 14, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I understand...imhave no problem with your question...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
So saying I don't like Lane Kiffin is an invitation to a personal attack?
This conversation while contentious didn’t devolve into personal attacks until Socal stepped in.
I was replying to Piper not you
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by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 14, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I understand that but don't take it so personally.
It’s makes it much easier to have an actual discussion if you leave out the personal attacks
Hahahahahahaha
You always come here and about 80% of the time you make you POSER comments and then say you were kidding. Can’t by it Pilot-poser little duck that quacked for help.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 14, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus you made the first personal reference anyway, which is mostly all you do.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 14, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I have no problem if you don't like kiffin...
Some take it differently than I do…
The inference made was that he isn’t qualified…we disagree.
Again this post had NOTHING to do with Kiffin…we didn’t bring it up…Dave did when he said he didn’t like kiffin. I let that slide…to each his own but sooner or later someone was going to take exception…
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
I said I didn’t care for him, but it was hardly an inflammatory comment. ev said we hated USC, which isn’t true. With his Tennessee comment, I assumed he was making the link from hating Kiffin to hating USC. I didn’t elaborate until asked.
After your response to me, it was a dead issue. Nobody brought it up again until 1952 started asking questions.
You guys should stand by your guy. We’d be doing the same thing. And I understand that you guys are tired of hearing about it. But it shouldn’t shock you that he’s rubbed some people the wrong way. And, basically, if you don’t want to hear about it, then members shouldn’t be asking about it.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Sep 14, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Well I can't be responsible for what's in everyone elses head or how they respond
I didn’t have a problem with it…I can’t and don’t answer for so.cal.
It doesn’t shock us about what we hear about kiffin…it doesn’t mean we always want to hear it though.
This is kind of a safe haven for our guys to get away from it….at least we hope it is,,,
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
I don’t hold it against you guys. I’ve been calling Kiffin a douchebag for way longer than he’s been a Trojan. :-)
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Oh well that’s all right then.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
You knew Kiff when he was an assistant w/
Fresno St? Panthers? CSU Rams?
Hmmmm, sounds fishy. Like Masoli’s alibi.
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Death to the NCAA!
i THINK HE KNEW HIM IN THE 4TH GRADE-kIFF PROBABLY TOOK HIS LUNCH MONEY.
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Oh and Duckies you might quack but I throw bricks back---so don't come here empty handed
by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 17, 2010 5:10 AM PDT up reply actions
and thats understandable
I want to respect that, its just hard for me not to answer when somebody asks.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Sep 14, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
If you say you don't hate Trojans I believe you
However I’ve read and been around enough Ducks to know USC is up on the list. Right below Huskies and Beavers. My point wasn’t about Duck per say, but about Vols, I thought that was clear.
I don’t hate USC. I was actually one of the few Carrol defenders.
If we’re going to do a pecking order of Pac-10 hate, there is always UW, OSU, ASU, UA, Stanford, UCLA all to rank over USC.
Most USC hate is steamed from jealousy. I couldn’t be more carefree about that.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
I wouldn't say that....
Order of hate:
UW, BSU, AZ, OSU, USC.
Once you get that far down the list it’s no longer hate….more of a dislike
All the Oregon fans I knew that went to the game were treated like shit.
That and after the game AZ fans started throwing things at anything Oregon. One of my best friends was hit in the head with a battery, another with a filled water bottle. Also Stoops is an Ass-hat.
Like I said, I can see that.
As for the UA fans, they are like that with everyone (which doesn’t’ speak well of them). The only ones worse are the ASU fans. Of course they are so bad their own school fences them off for the protection of others. How sad is that! Must be an AZ thing.
by ev on Sep 14, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t understand the Stoops hate. I like Mike Stoops.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Sure, that sounds like it sucks
But it reminds me of Autzen.
"I have a commanding voice." - Ed Orgeron
Luv This Video
The duck teabaggin the cougar is F-in hilarious
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"You can't sanction heart, and you can't sanction the will to win" - USC QB, Matt Barkley
There is a difference between taking exception and responding accordingly
And dragging the conversation down to an elementary school argument during recess.
That may have come off a little more harsh than I intended
I really do like the work you and Joey do here. This turned into a bit more of a circus than I expected
No offense taken...I just refuse to police very single comment
And I want my guys to feel free to say what they want here…sometimes there is a little collateral damage…
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
And you are a TROLL
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by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 14, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
ppilot
please just let it go. CC has always been good with us. Lets not get into a war with them.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Sep 14, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
JUst another 5 buck duck!
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by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 13, 2010 11:14 PM PDT reply actions
Ummmm......QB's are often given picture of the defensive alignment if they the coaches see something.
It’s been that way for years, so if this NCAA regulations it’s not exactly being enforced
hmmmm, assuming much?
1. Review doesn’t necessairly mean “watch film”
2. Does this mean everytime a QB is given pictures of coverage (which happens ALL THE TIME), its a violation?
This is a non-story.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Well if you read the rule, yes it's a violation
I’m not saying Oregon did or didn’t do anything wrong, just that it will be interesting to see if anything comes of this. It wouldn’t be the first time one incident pointed out that many have been violating a rule.
by ev on Sep 14, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Except for the fact it is plainly visible on national TV all the time (Providing photographs)
Either there is some type of addendum to this rule or it is flat out not being enforced
probably the latter
like I said, non-story
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
It may be a non story to you Dave but some of us found it intriguing
Would you feel it was a non story if the shoe was on the other foot?
It is violation, read section A of the rule again. It specifically says photographs.
Also…if it “HAPPENS ALL THE TIME” and it’s no big deal then why is there a rule.
Assumptions are the mother of a great give and take…we really don’t care but people are discussing it which is why I posted it. You commented on it…mission accomplished in my eyes.
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
true
and to be fair, you said “it may be nothing”, which I think is exactly the case.
I do find it interesting, as ppilot said, that photographs are given to QBs all the time, by pretty much every team. So the rule is clearly not being enforced.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
The photos given to QBs are not current photos.
They are photos from game film of previous games, which are legal. Any photos or film of a game in progress is strictly phohibited, but in reality, probably a secondary violation of the rules.
Not by much when 90% of the games are on TV these days...regional and national
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
So you are telling me that no one in the NCAA compliance department ever watches these?
I am sorry that makes absolutely no sense. We aren’t talking about the MWC network, we are talking about primetime ESPN and ABC broadcasts.
I don't know what compliance departments do...
You say it it happens all the time and that is no big deal…
There is a rule inlace that specifically says otherwise…you tell me where the gap is.
I didn’t just pull it out of my ass…I read the quote in the paper and looked at the rule…seems pretty easy to figure out to me…
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
And I still think the leap from "review" to this is a huge leap
seeing as review could be anything. Huge leap.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Eyes of the beholder...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Personally, the “it happens all the time” argument is there to say that there are plenty of situations that actually merit a closer investigation, i.e. when someone is blatantly looking at pictures of previous plays on national TV. This situation, not so much. For all we know, “review” simply means a coach sitting down with the defense and discussing the play, without any visual aids whatsoever. For anyone to look into this, and not other situations where the rule is blatantly being defied, would be pretty ridiculous.
My guess is that we are missing another piece of the puzzle
Because teams knowingly breaking the rule during primetime national broadcasts makes absolutely no sense even for an organization as inept as the NCAA
Probably but I found it interesting so I posted...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
That's one way of interpreting it...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
I don’t agree with “It happens all the time”.
I honestly cannot recall a single time I’ve seen a collegiate QB review photos, outside of their own playbook.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
I agree..I don't remember it either
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
I think the “it’s happens all the time” excuse is lame. The NCAA should obviously enforce the rules, but all teams should follow the rules.
But I also think you’re making a massive stretch to take what that article says and turn that into an accusation or question that Oregon is breaking the rules. The article says “review,” which could mean any number of things, but certainly doesn’t mean photo or video review.
The biggest flaw in this whole logical leap is that the Ducks were on the road. Do you think that Tennessee would even make these systems available? I’m pretty certain that the visitor locker rooms don’t have video systems, and the opposing coaches box probably doesn’t have 11×17 photo printers hooked up to the ESPN feed. The Ducks could have brought that stuff with them, I supposed, but that’s pretty unlikely.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Review is the key word here
I interpret it differently than others…
Technology is an ever changing thing so there are any number of possibilities…
We saw it happen in plain site in the NFL…
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
maybe they used a macbook pro
and streamed it online? I just don’t think it is necessary, these coaches are professionals, they know the rules, and diagramming plays on a dry erase board is often times a better way of explaining things.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Careful with this...
I actually know of one instance where this happened against SC…recently
That’s all I will say…
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Wait, are you calling us CHEATERS!!!
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!
/long diatriate
/rant (running backs not very good, Polk/?, college football IQ)
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
by Matt Daddy on Sep 14, 2010 9:48 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Heh...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
able to review runs
That doesn’t mean reviewed film/photograph/microfiche/digital images from the hubble telescope. It could have been Xs and Os on a grease board, or letters and arrows on a chalkboard.
This is likely a non-issue.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Exactly
Your paranoia is running high if you jump immediately from ‘review’ to ‘telestrated 3D frame-by-frame analysis from Nick Aliotti to the entire defense’.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
It doesn't have to be that elaborate...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Hyperbole, obviously
but I still think you’re kind of witch hunting. What are you doing reading the R-G anyway?
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Obviuosly...
One mans witch hunt is another mans interest…
Feed readers are a great thing
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
The internet
Is there anything it can’t do?
FYI: Bruins Nation called, they want their tinfoil hats back.
Kidding. Kind of.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't need theirs...I have plenty of my own, thanks ;-)
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Well, crap
I guess I can’t sell you mine, then. It’s a lovely shade of yellow, perhaps you caught it during our awesome showing against BYU in the Las Vegas Bowl a few years back:
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
That's just bad...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Amazingly, this shot doesn't even do it proper justice
You can barely make out the flame/webfoot hologram just above the visor.
Personally, I’ve come to like the uniform madness we created, but the level of suck in this getup, and in this game, has never been duplicated since by the Ducks (praise God).
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Calling Mr. blackwell!
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
How would YOU review them?
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
MSPaint?
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Mind = blown
Isn’t all sports just LARPing some war game anyway?
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
How does any coach review them?
All I get out of this story is the coaches took advantage of an hour-long break by doing some coaching.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Honestly I don't understand what the big deal is
Do you think this precludes the coaching staff from reviewing what’s going on in any form? Of course they were coaching them up while waiting to hit the field again, that’s what they get paid to do. They were getting killed out there, so they talked about what was happening.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
It's how you do it not that you do it...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
then what's the problem here?
because i didn’t read anything in the story that says it was done improperly. That was clearly an inference made by you and you alone.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Sep 14, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I interpreted as something more than you did
I’m fine if you disagree…it is just how I saw it.
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
we are talking about the word "review"
There are many kinds of reviews, book reviews, performance reviews, it is not implied what kinds of media are used when reviewing. That inference was made by you.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
That's right it was...
Again I interpreted it differently than you.
No one knows the truth here I merely voiced an opinion…I could be wrong, but what if I am right?
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Didn't you know? All Oregon players get their playbooks on an Ipads
Kelly using his mad hacker skills put together a 3d flash game showing a how Tennessee was using an unbalanced line to pin our linebackers
Heh..
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
In a related story
Masoil was merely confused because that laptop looked JUST LIKE HIS.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Overall I have to side with the ducks on this one
Review doesn’t imply photography, or filming. It just means to go over something. Its not even an issue unless someone has the goods on those types of systems being used.
True but it's hard to think otherwise
How else do you “review” the prior plays? Askling the players what happen and putting it on a white board? Like I said, I don’t know what happen but I would like to.
Lots of plays to remember...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Really? They had two offensive series
My high school football coach could diagram what our opponents were doing at halftime.
The one they were killing us on, though
was not rocket science.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
It's two out of 10 minutes of game time, from about half an hour ago in real time
/boggle
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
In other news
our coaches are not demented old ladies.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I still remember the plays
and I didn’t even call the defense
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
by Matt Daddy on Sep 14, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
actually I do
it wasn’t hard, they were simple I-formation power run plays where our LB got pinched in and wasn’t able to get out on the RB which left him open for a big run. It’s not unfathomable to think the coaches went in and (dare I say) “reviewed” what the LBs are supposed to do in that type of formation. It’s also not outside of the realm of possibility that the coaches would remember those two plays out of the 10-12 that UT ran because they were the ones that set them up to score early.
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
Are we even talking about the same thing?
These guys are professional football coaches. This is what they do for a living. If they aren’t competent enough to remember two plays from half of a quarter, then…
Oh, wait, maybe USC will hire them as heac coach.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
And, a typo ruins another perfectly good joke.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
see there you go
The “duck” comes out at the worse time. Can’t even have a nice conversation. Nice to see you guys haven’t really changed.
/singlesilenttear
Not sure the personal attack is necessary, I even said it was a joke.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
So calling you a duck is a personal attack?
You were the one throwing things out there first. There was no need for an off color joke. I wrote that before you said it was a joke, although it wouldn’t have made a difference.
K, I'll spell it out:
“Nice to see you guys haven’t really changed.”
I was actually enjoying the conversation; obviously I think Paragon is reaching a bit in his opinion, but he’s entitled to it.
But you’re pretty strongly implying the coaching staff is cheating, and incapable of making a simple defensive adjustment during an hour-long break in the locker room. You think that isn’t going to ruffle feathers?
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
So who the ---- are you anyway
Everyone has an opinion and it is evs blog
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by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 14, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I have already said twice
I don’t know what happen, I would just like to is all. Clearly the rule doesn’t allow photos, but that doesn’t mean it was or wasn’t done. However to assume “review” would be from memory is a bigger jump than to not. Again remember where you are. If I were on a duck board, they yes you have a point. Here, not so much.
However to assume "review" would be from memory is a bigger jump than to not.
How else are adjustments made in the game? Does every coach keep to their original game plan, stubbornly, just because they aren’t allowed to look at photos?
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
What is funny is the duck fans started
by saying photos were used by everyone. Now not so much. Just pointing that out
I disagreed with that. I’ve never witnessed that myself.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
That's fine
But the fact is early in this topic Duck fans were saying photos were used by everyone (including them).
Your missing a sixth sense, which in this case is humor – not the one where you can see dead people.
Buck up, chum!
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Let's take it easy here
Differing opinions are welcome but keep it cool…
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Considering that the big runs early against Oregon were essentially the same play, with the same defensive scheme, and the DC was up in the booth – it wouldn’t be too hard to figure out what happened…
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Essentially isn't the same thing and it does make a difference.
If you want to go with the white board defense, fine with me. Honestly it doesn’t matter to me, but it would be nice to know if UO did UT wrong. I would get a laugh out of that.
Wow.
Please refer to tinfoil hat above, available for immediate purchase.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Bruins Nation is having a clearance sale on designer models
If you hurry I am sure you could pick up a Chanel or Marc Jacobs for a good price.
Guys enough with the BN jokes...I have to answer for it when it gets out of hand...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Question Paragon
If you have to answer for us, does that mean “N” does for them? I mean at worse we are not even half as bad as they are about Trojans. Or is this just a “site” thing? I don’t read BN much so I don’t know if they take shots at this site or just USC in general. I’ve always wonder about that as this isn’t the first time you have made this point.
its a one way street...hit up on email if you need a clarification...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
me
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
So now it is against the rules to have a photographic memory?
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
You are assuming just as we are
The only difference is we are looking at it from the other direction. Is that so hard to accept?
I get your assumptions
but they seem a little far fetched and not grounded in reality. It’s reality to know that UT had run less than a dozen plays, where 2 of them had gone for long yardage because of misalignments by our defense. To assume then that Oregon figured out a way to get technological evidence away from home, and then knowing broke rules because one guy said they “reviewed” what happened on those two plays is grasping for something that to me seems intellectuality dishonest.
You’re allowed to your opinion, that’s fine. I just think our assumptions are probably a lot closer to the truth.
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
I would say quite the opposite, actually
The operative word in this discussion is “review”. I would say that Occam’s razor is pretty dull if we’re taking that to mean “use of video in the locker room”.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
You're welcome to that opinion
Just as I’m welcome to question the logic behind it. Isn’t that what an internet forum about football is for? And quit with the ’it’s our board’ stuff, it’s a post about the Ducks.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 14, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes it's a post about the ducks on our board
Sorry but there is a difference. Nice to know I’m entitled to an opinion on the matter, I was beginning to think otherwise.
My assumption has no implication. That is a distinctive difference between conspiracy and skepticism.
I’m not drawing any conclusions over the issue. Paragon SC, and many of you are (Granted, Paragon is doing it while accepting it might by “nothing”)
I don’t assume to know what was going on, but to extrapolate “review” into an implication of film, or photography without ANY basis is conspiratorial.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
That's fine...as I indicated it may be nothing
Doesn’t mean I am not intrigued…
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
And I just want to make clear, Paragon
this was in no way meant to be any criticism against you personally. You guys have always run a good ship here, unlike the clown show run by that other LA team. I just thought this was an unfair leap, and had to claim it as such.
Hope we’re still cool.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Wasn't taken that way at all...I have plenty of other things to be paranoid about in my day job...
This isn’t one of them.
We are good…
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
I live in Oregon and I am blinded by the Non-light!
My reactions are slow
I am Myopic in sight
My brain freezes more than my I-phone
My favorite star is Tanya Harding
I duck when I hear the sound of buckshot
My feet are always wet
I smell like a dead duck.
Quack—Silenceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Here come the Dog
35-TO Nothing---------Yep the LA Monopoly is a changing------
by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 14, 2010 11:07 AM PDT reply actions
thems the breaks when you have to go to class....;-)
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Well I think that Chip Kelly is more of a trash talker than Kiffin.
I mean the other day I heard he took out the trash at the college—————OH wait NEVER MIND
35-TO Nothing---------Yep the LA Monopoly is a changing------
Oh and Duckies you might quack but I throw bricks back---so don't come here empty handed
by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 14, 2010 3:33 PM PDT reply actions
the locker rooms are not within the 'field of play'
i’m going to guess.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Sep 15, 2010 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I have to side with Paragon
In sports and in the media, “to review” something is to watch it again (“re-view”) through one form of medium or another; writing it down on a board, etc., is called “breaking down the play,” or “analyzing” or discussing it, etc. Perhaps it was a poor choice of words by the originator of the article, but in “analyzing” the phrasing like he did and coming to that conclusion, Paragon is correct.
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