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Matt Leinart Plays Poorly and Gets Demoted; Subsequently Blames Coach

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Matt Leinart was arguably the best quarterback to ever suit up for USC. He won a Heisman, threw a bunch of touchdown passes, and won consecutive national championships. In turn, his #11 jersey is prominently displayed in the Heritage Hall lobby, and unlike his backfield mate Reggie Bush, it hasn't been removed from the vicinity yet.

But in what is largely old news, Leinart isn't a particularly good NFL quarterback. He's slow footed, has a weak arm, and seemingly lacks the "it" factor that made him a perennial all-american while at USC. Despite being drafted 10th overall by the Arizona Cardinals in 2006, he has essentially served as the clipboard holder for Kurt Warner for the past four years, while also prompting one of the greatest post-game rants in NFL history.

Nonetheless, he's still Matt Leinart, and in all likelihood, he probably should be able to beat Derek Anderson in a quarterback competition. But, it's apparently more challenging than you think, as he was relegated to the backup role for the team's third preseason game last Saturday. Accordingly, Leinart blamed the coach.

Arizona Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart exercised some diplomacy last week when talking about being demoted to backing up Derek Anderson. On Monday, however, Leinart didn't hold back, saying he must have lost his job for reasons other than performance.

"I feel like I've outplayed the competition, training camp, preseason," he said. "I think my plays speaks about that. For me, this goes beyond the football field.

"The philosophy is you want the best 11 guys to play. I feel like I've proved that with my performance. I don't really know what else I could possibly do, so it probably goes beyond football. For me, I just really want an explanation and I haven't been given one."

But Leinart acknowledged he had not asked coach Ken Whisenhunt for an explanation.

"No, it is what it is," Leinart said. "Like I said, I think I've done enough. I need to get better, like I said last week. But I don't know if there have been equal opportunities. Obviously, I haven't played as much as I'd like."

Grow up, Matt. Buckle your chinstrap, play hard, and stop venting to the media. In the long run, you'll be better off for it.

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is untrue, he’s completely outplayed derek anderson, it’s not even close

by gonz72 on Aug 30, 2010 7:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Good advice, Joey...

If Leinart is so off-base as to believe that complaining to the media about how he was treated will help matters, then it’s hard to give credence to anything else he says.

by TrojanJAG on Aug 30, 2010 7:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Leinart’s feelings or interpretation of the situation really has no bearing, If Whisenhunt does not feel comfortable with his play or unsure of his commitment to the team, he won’t play.

Looking back, Dennis Green benched him, now Whisenhunt…Matt has had ample opportunity to show his skills, and he has come up lacking. One thing is certain, if he doesn’t get his act together…he’s gone, after all this is business.

by alfa1 on Aug 30, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's certainly possible that Whisenhunt just doesn't like him...

…but moaning about that is just going to create the impression that Leinart’s not worth the trouble. You see good players fall out of favor in soccer all the time before re-establishing themselves somewhere else under a different manager, but the key thing is that they are re-establishing themselves… not trying to demonstrate that they weren’t actually a drafting error.

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by DC Trojan on Aug 30, 2010 8:06 PM PDT reply actions  

The only mistake he made was complaining to the media

From everything I’ve read and heard he outplayed Anderson.

"Understanding is a virtue, hard to come by"
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by gnossos on Aug 30, 2010 9:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Good old STUPID Wiseen _unt has never liked Matt it is the owner and GM that wanted him, but it really doesn't matter until Matt shows more presence in the pocket.

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats

by so.cal.native1952 on Aug 30, 2010 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Did Nestor hack into Joey's account; this post belongs on BN

Joey, Joey, Joey, this take is really shallow. First of all, it was only the 3rd preseason game for goodness sake. Secondly, Leinart ONLY HAD 13 attempts to Anderson’s 41 in the first two games, with a QB rating of 95 & 77 to 45 & 73. After the third preseason game, the competition is: Matt Leinart 19/23 161 yds 1 TD 0 Ints QB Rating: 110.3; D.Anderson 31/53 287 yds 1 TD 2 Ints QB Rating: 70.2.

Matt Leinart has a QB RATING of 110.3 in preseason! He holds the NLF rooking record for most yards passing in a game at 405 vs the Vikings. Furthermore, Leinart replaced Warner and started for 11 games as a rookie, and was the starter for the first 5 games in 2007 before being replaced by Warner due to a season-ending injury.

He was much more than “just the clipboard holder” in his first two seasons, and he has clearly outplayed Anderson despite only being given 13 passing attempts in the first two games. Whisenhunt may still pick Anderson, but it’s not because Matt has shown that “he isn’t a particularly good NFL QB”.

It appears that you are trying too hard to be provocative, which fits in well with ESPiN or Yahoo or Sportsline. But, if you are going to slam a Trojan legend on a USC fan site, you should support your take with more than superficial analysis. Lest you aspire to be the next Scott Wolf.

Death to the NCAA!!!

by DFWTrojan on Aug 30, 2010 11:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I think this post by Joey is fine...

Yes we are a USC fan site but I would be uncomfortable with blind support no matter what. I understand about the uneasiness of “slamming” a great Trojan but I think this piece is objective.

Leinart hasn’t always represented himself well and it is hard to know the real story in AZ. Leinart hasn’t played up to the level we were used to seeing…as to why is anyone’s guess.

If Wisenhunt doesn’t “like” Leinart then he should cut him and make it best for both parties.

I think its a bit much to compare Joey to Scott Wolf or to say this piece “belongs on BN”.

Should we not write anything derogatory about former players? I like Leinart but he hasn’t lived up expectations during the past three years and this year looks to be no different regardless of how well he may of outplayed Anderson in one game.

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by Paragon SC on Aug 31, 2010 5:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well to get to Matt and what might be all BS.

I feel Matt is not the type of person such as Mark Sanchez that can start in their rookie season. Matt is better at feeling out the situation or program, then stepping in and making a difference. Is Matt a bust in the NFL don’t and will not know until he really gets a chance, along with at least 40% play calling. W-Hunt will never let a non-veteran QB call most of the plays, like PC has to much into the cookie jar. I also feel the Cards were very lucky to make it to the SB and it will never happen again under this Myopic coaching staff. As I said before it would be better for Matt to move on, heck who the hell wants to live in Phoenix anyway.

Oh and BTW those numbers do show that Matt is better than Anderson, as Anderson will throw you into a game and also out of a game. Plus I really have seen but one preseason game and yes I didn’t think Matt looked good, but I don’t feel he agreed with the PLAY CALLING>

Have a great day all——this just my stupid opinion.

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats

by so.cal.native1952 on Aug 31, 2010 8:06 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

You're on fire my man!

This post of yours is too much of a rec! (and I agree whole-heartedly with your opinion!)

Plus 10 (at least!)

"Fun fact: My grandma actually had 7 carries for 79 yards and one TD last year against Stanford. The (Oregon Ducks) spread option just works like that, but it helped that she’s pretty scrappy" (JShufelt- Addicted to Quack)

by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 31, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1, more data in support of Mattie

To be fair, Zona’s offense has struggled. However, as usual, the QB gets too much of the blame during bad times, and too much of the credit during good times. Larry Fitzgerald is out with a knee injury and has only 1 reception this preseason. The Cardinals’ leading receivers in preseason:

Max Komar & Stephen Williams?!?

Death to the NCAA!!!

by DFWTrojan on Aug 31, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

"For me, this goes beyond the football field."

A 4th year NFL player has no business making an statement like this. Fact is, Arizona practically handed Leinart the keys to the car when Warner retired. Let’s face it, you don’t sign DEREK ABDERSON to be “the man”. I have no idea what happened, but its absurd to speculate that Wisenhut is placing some personal vendetta above the interests of his team. Arizona’s offense lit it up under Warner, and doesn’t under Leinart. Like Joey said, the “it factor” is missing.

Despite Leinart’s contention that he “hasn’t been given one (an explanation)”, anyone who follows the sport knows that the coaches have reviewed the game film and discussed exactly where improvement needs to be made. If Leinart really doesn’t understand, then maybe he’s just not paying attention. He needs to be working on improving, not playing victim. He should be fighting to win back the starting job. Because…it’s not going to get any easier at his next stop. If he thinks Pete Carroll will put up with these types of statements, he’d better think again. Look how long Lendale White lasted with the Seahawks. Bottom line is that Leinart needs a change of attitude at least as much as he needs a change of scenery. JMO.

by TrojanJAG on Aug 31, 2010 8:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Actually, Pete did put up with these types of statements

I don’t know how many times Pete described and defended a player’s aggressive statements to the press as “he’s just competing. that’s what I would expect him to say.”

The press plays the gotcha game, baiting Leinart and other athletes to proffer statements on controversial situtations. Then, they blow up the story to sensationalize it and sell their product. As consumers of this news, we should not be so gullable.

I do not see anything provocative in what Leinart said. In fact, it is what I would expect him to say. A competitor should not be a good soldier and sulk away quietly into the night. Plus, Leinart is right. Whisenhunt gave Anderson a start after having only given Leinart 13 pass attempts to Anderson’s 41???

Leinart’s statements are largely correct and supportable. Maybe it’s Whisenhunt who should be dropped from the starting lineup.

Death to the NCAA!!!

by DFWTrojan on Aug 31, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are valid criticisms of the way

that Wisenhut has handled this, and I don’t defend it. But Leinart is handling it the wrong way by implying that he hasn’t been treated fairly. Look at the current USC team. Guys like Mustain, Gable, Bradford, Butler, Ausberry, and Gallipo are being good team players, and saying the right things. I’d be disappointed if any of them were saying the reasons they weren’t starting “goes beyond football”.

It’s going to be a long season in Arizona, and Anderson isn’t that good. I think Leinart would have been be wise to take the “team player” approach. I think he would have gotten his oportunity in Arizona at some point…on a decent team, and in an offense he should know. Now I’m not so sure. He will probably get another chance somewhere else, but it might be on a crappy team, or behind a quality NFL QB. There is no guarantee that he will ever get another opportunity as good as he had after Warner stepped down. I think he could have handled it better.

by TrojanJAG on Aug 31, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It may be as simple as system fit

He’s just not a good fit in the Whisenhunt system. Leinart would appear to be a good fit in a West Coast system. Anderson can certainly throw a deeper ball. But, he was also the lowest rated QB in the NFL last season. Leinart does have a +100 QB rating after 3 preseason games.

It’s hard for me to bah on Leinart. I’m not sure Whisenhunt knows what the hell he is doing.

Death to the NCAA!!!

by DFWTrojan on Aug 31, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve always tended to the view that a good coach can work with what he’s got, as opposed to be dogmatic about a system, but that’s just me. And it’s not like I have a head coaching background.

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by DC Trojan on Aug 31, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel you are right about coaching what he has or they got, but even one of my best friends in tennis has had a hard time in adjusting or excepting new style.

Believe and he is a great coach not only at tennis but San-Soo Kung-foo, but I think his views are bull headed sometimes. Maybe the art of kung-foo has crepe to deeply into his mind, not sure but I do feel that Duminhunt clearly doesn’t know how to use Matt.

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats

by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 1, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, DC

which makes this even more puzzling. Anderson was the lowest rated QB in the NFL last season, and he only has a 70 rating thus far in preseason. Behind Anderson are two rookies.

So, the coach wants to dump the most experienced QB on his club with their offense who has a +100 QB rating through preseason??? This may be the downfall of Whisenhunt. Hard to rationalize what he is doing.

Death to the NCAA!!!

by DFWTrojan on Sep 1, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

DFW IS THE MAN!

Read this from today’s Scott Wolf blog.

You’re more right than wrong. (as is always the case broheem! you nailed it. you and SoCal. +1. keep up the good comments DFW. you are seriously badass dude. this Boldin quote validates your take 100%!!!!)

"Fun fact: My grandma actually had 7 carries for 79 yards and one TD last year against Stanford. The (Oregon Ducks) spread option just works like that, but it helped that she’s pretty scrappy" (JShufelt- Addicted to Quack)

by BixBeiderbecke on Sep 1, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

D I said some of the same stuff over at the Cardinal site and they really didn't like it, but I think 2 where bRuins.

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats

by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 1, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really surprised

Matt was a great QB at SC.

He also had an attitude. And if you were ever lucky enough to bump into him often on campus or around town, you knew that instantly.

I hope he does well, of course, and he seems to have lost that attitude. But there’s no way around it- the stunts he pulled after being drafted with his beer bong parties made SC look bad. Too bad, dude. I’m not going to be PUMPED TO DEFEND YOU on the internet when I’ve gotten razzed at work about the “useless crappy quarterback who came from your school who beer bongs with teenagers.”

Rodney Sermons is my #5

by Brad Otton Is My Homeboy on Sep 1, 2010 6:26 AM PDT reply actions  

It is true

but word on the street is that he has been nothing but a model citizen in Phoenix over the last few years. He just can’t shake that old SC image.

Death to the NCAA!!!

by DFWTrojan on Sep 1, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okayyyyyyyyyy joey now tell me you haven't done any childish or college type stuff partying.

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats

by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 1, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possible trade to the Oakland Raiders?

I’d be way down with that. We finally have a decent front O-line. This could be happening, weirder things have happened with my beloved Raiders. (now, if Al Davis would just step down. That guy is so old and out-dated- he looks like King Tut’s twin. The mummy, not the person.

"Fun fact: My grandma actually had 7 carries for 79 yards and one TD last year against Stanford. The (Oregon Ducks) spread option just works like that, but it helped that she’s pretty scrappy" (JShufelt- Addicted to Quack)

by BixBeiderbecke on Sep 1, 2010 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

That would be cool!

Oh god, do I actually take my Raiders gear out of the closet. I’ve suppressed those feelings for so long!

Death to the NCAA!!!

by DFWTrojan on Sep 1, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

The backup QB Gradowski? He's a baller!

I REALLY like this backup QB. Now, Jason Campbell? I’m going to have to put aside my feelings about Auburn, afterall- wasn’t he the quarterback of that not-so-famous undefeated team that was supposed to be “better” than USC back in 2004? It’s just hard for me to get all rah-rah for the guy.

I mean. . . . .he’s no Bo, you know? (gawd my family hated me when Bo Jackson was on the Raiders. My dad and I are the only Raiders fans. My dad hates Alabama, it’s my mom’s side of the family that indoctrinated me on the Tide. But so anyway. . . .my mom and I were severely at odds in those days. Bama wasn’t hitting on all cylinders, Bo came from Auburn, mom and dad were divorcing and. . . . .my mom’s a big Joe Montana/Steve Young 49-er traitor. So is my numnut-brother. Man I HATE the 69-ers!!!!!!)

"Fun fact: My grandma actually had 7 carries for 79 yards and one TD last year against Stanford. The (Oregon Ducks) spread option just works like that, but it helped that she’s pretty scrappy" (JShufelt- Addicted to Quack)

by BixBeiderbecke on Sep 1, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Young Mr. Leinart has crossed the Rubicon

His outward contempt towards the head coach is his fall, that similar to Jay Cutler in Denver
In the real world…not collegiate sports…you give the HC some crap, your toast.

The Cardinals are shopping him as we speak, so far, not a lot of interest, quite honestly he has done nothing of note to be coveted by anyone. Perhaps a back up for Eli in NY. If they can’t find any takers, he will stay on the bench.

by alfa1 on Sep 1, 2010 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

He can back up Mark Sanchez!

Salve Caesar Augustus Kiffinus!
Ad astra per aspera

by M. AGRIPPA on Sep 2, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Dennis Green hadn't been fired...

…after Leinart’s impressive rookie season, I remain convinced that things would’ve worked out completely differently for the QB. Green believed in Leinart and ran an offense (Bill Walsh’s West Coast Offense) that was perfectly suited to Leinart’s skills.

However, Green was sacked (due to the Cards’ atrocious play on defense, which has been a long-standing issue ever since their relocation to Phoenix), and an entirely new coaching staff came in — including Wisenhunt, who seemed to take an instant dislike to Leinart, partly because of Leinart’s bawdy “after hours” activities. Leinart then tried the milk-and-cookies routine as a sop to Wisenhunt, but to no avail.

I believe Leinart went public with his displeasure because this marks the second consecutive preseason that Leinart has played well enough to be named the starter AND had to listen to Wisenhunt publicly praise him, declaiming that Leinart would definitely be the team’s starting QB, only to have Wisenhunt then demote him right before the start of the season. With the lockout looming after this season, I think Leinart felt like he had no cards (pun unintended) left to play and complained to the press, perhaps hoping to force his release.

by Glenn X on Sep 3, 2010 8:02 AM PDT reply actions  

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