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Checkin' on the Pac: Washington State

With Pac-10 media day now in the books, it's time to start looking toward training camp and the actual 2010 season, which will likely be one of the more wide-open races in the recent history of the conference. We certainly know a lot of the ins-and-outs of the USC roster, but how much do we know about our Pac-10 counterparts? To shore up any gaps in our knowledge, we'll be running a 9-part interview series with many of the best team-specific Pac-10 blogs on the web. For part one, here's a Q&A with Jeff Nusser of SB Nation's CougCenter for some info on the Washington State Cougars:

Q: Since Alex Brink graduated following the 2007 season, it seems as if Washington State has struggled to find a consistent starter at the quarterback position. Going into the 2010 season, what are the odds that this gets figured out? In other words, can Jeff Tuel start 12 games?

A: You're right that we've struggled to find a consistent starter, but it's at least a little difficult to try and figure out just where to lay the blame on that one. Every guy who's tried to replace Brink under center has spent more time running for his life the last two years than actually throwing passes thanks to the putrid state of the offensive line. A broken neck, a broken back, reconstructive knee surgery ... all that happened to our quarterbacks in 2008. The major injuries weren't quite as bad in 2009, but that mostly was due to our quarterbacks' collective ability to either throw the ball after 1.8 seconds or turtle up as the defenders descended.

Which begged the question: Were they bad because the offensive line was bad, or were they bad because they were bad?

We should get a little better answer this year. A big part of the problem the last two years with the offensive line has been youth. Some schools -- such as USC -- can sort of get away with that. WSU recruits don't show up physically mature, and when young linemen are pressed into action, the physicality of the conference catches up with them and they get injured. (We had a 250-pound freshman start at left tackle against Oregon last year. I wish I was making that up.) Another year of maturity, another year in the weight room, plus a couple of JC transfers for reinforcements, means they should be better.

So can Tuel start 12 games? I think so. His backup is mediocre at best, so the only thing that could derail him would be another injury -- he missed the last two games with a relatively minor knee injury -- or such poor performance that Paul Wulff is forced to bench him. He looked pretty dang good for a true freshman last year, so I think the latter is unlikely, and he's just mobile enough that if the line is improved, the former becomes less of an issue. 

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Q: Whoever is under center for Wazzu is going to be surrounded by some talented skill players. Cal transfer RB James Montgomery appears healthy this year after being out for nearly all of the 2009 season, and the top two receivers (Jared Karstetter and Gino Simone) are back as well. Comparative to 2008 and 2009, how "explosive" can these guys be?

A: Let's not jump the gun on Montgomery. He suffered a serious leg injury last year -- one that was actually life threatening. (Again, I wish I was making this up.) In order to quell expectations, doctors said right away that he might never play again. However, his rehab has gone better than expected, and he's expected to be back. The problem, though, is that we have no idea what he'll be able to do, as he has yet to take the field since the injury. 

At his best, he's a powerful back with some shiftiness and great acceleration -- far and away the most talented player on the team. But I think most people are realistic in expecting that he won't be 100 percent of what he was. What percentage he will be ... we just don't know. But it's likely even 90 percent of that will still be the better than everyone else.

As for the receivers, nobody's going to use the word explosive. Karstetter is a big target with decent speed who is best as a red zone weapon. (Assuming we ever get that close to the end zone.) Simone is a shifty, sure-handed slot target, but nobody's going to confuse him with Wes Welker. Any "explosion" is going to have to come from some talented, but obviously inexperienced, newcomers. They reputedly possess the ability, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Basically, with all these question marks, the offense might still be another year away from marked improvement. 

Q: The defense has to have been rather disappointing in recent years. A year ago, they gave up on average 38.5 points per game. However, they do return 7 starters, and have quite a few seniors scattered throughout the lineup this year. You're anticipating at least some improvement, right?

A: Defense is the side of the ball where we're looking for significant improvement. There's a lot of experience returning, but that's not what has us optimistic. Realizing the project in front of him, Wulff stashed some of the most talented members of the 2009 recruiting class on redshirts last year, even though they probably could have helped. Those guys, along with some of the newcomers, possess something most of the returning players don't: SPEED. 

There were times the last two years where opponents were catching balls and there wasn't even a defender on the screen. That figures to change this year. Will they be great? No. But they might be good enough to keep WSU in some games.

Q: People often forget that while Washington State declined in terms of wins last season, they did improve in many regards. For one, the turnover margin went from -25 in 2008 to -7 in 2009, and the games were generally more competitive as well (just compare the games against USC in 2008 and 2009). Was this reflective of a continuing trend, where the Cougs get back to keeping for bowl games, or are you less optimistic?

A: I think there's little doubt the program is heading in the right direction. This team is better off than it was two years ago. Serious talk of a bowl game is still at least a year away, and whether this program can get back to 30 wins in three years is a big question mark. But Wulff is going about it the right way -- he's not taking any shortcuts. He's bringing in kids who are of good character, generally solid academically, have some raw skills, and are developing. I believe this program can get back to being in bowl games regularly under Wulff.

Q: In 2008, both Washington and Washington State finished toward the bottom half of the conference, and the Cougs won the Apple Cup as well. However, Washington hired Steve Sarkisian, upset USC in 2009, and finished 5-7 overall after going winless in '08. How aggravating/frustrating/annoying/insert adjective here is it that the Huskies appear to be the media darling this offseason, especially with all the Jake Locker Heisman hype, and are now apparently "on the rise?"

A: It probably annoys me more than others because I live in the Seattle area. But it's understandable. After all, even in that 0-12 season, it was pretty clear that there was some talent over there that was just being horribly mismanaged and poorly coached. (Which, incidentally, made the Apple Cup win that season that much more satisfying.) So, it was hardly surprising that they surged a bit last year.

Look, we're under no illusions that UW isn't a program with a lot more resources than WSU, and with a great quarterback like Locker, they really ought to be better at this point. I just wish I didn't have to listen to the morons around me talk about the Huskies and the Rose Bowl in the same breath. (Yes, they're really doing that.)

Q: It doesn't seem too long ago that Jason Gesser and the Cougs were beating USC on the field and earning Rose Bowl births as well, but a lot has changed since then. Mike Price and Bill Doba are gone, and with Paul Wulff, Washington State seems to be a lock to finish last in the conference. What are the chances that this team surprises people this year and avoids another last place finish?

A: Well, common sense would say that the chances are slim. They were so far behind everyone else the last two years, it's hard to imagine them making up that big of a gap to the tune of two or three wins. 

But there are a lot of unknown quantities with this team, and even Wulff -- who has been notoriously frank in his assessments of his teams the last two years -- has said that six wins is a possibility. Personally, I don't think that's even remotely a possibility. But when the typically close-to-the-vest head coach starts floating that sort of stuff and tells people the team really will be a lot better and is going to surprise some people, I'll listen.

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Nice and realistic answers

Sobering to say the least, not that I was under any illusion about the Cougs this year. Personally I’m not sold on Wulff, but since you are much closer to the situation I will take your word on the hire. I’ve always liked the Cougs. Except for that “Dynasty” talk back in 2004 and the 1915 MNC claim, fans with their feet firmly planted in reality. Couple of problems. With UW improving it’s tough to find programs the Cougs can jump over to improve their standing (ASU comes to mind but that is it). WSU still schedules too tough in their OOC. That said, have to think coaching at WSU has to be one of the toughest in the nation.

by ev on Aug 2, 2010 10:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Always thought WSU ran a classy program and their fans seems to be good-hearted people

If there’s such a thing, I’ve often called the Cougs my second favorite Pac-10 team. It also helps that they’re often non-threatening. But regardless, always had a ton of respect for their program.

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by Joey Kaufman on Aug 2, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still baffled

How did Wazzu end up so bad in the first place? I know there was gross mismanagement, but the last couple years they were basically a middling FCS team.

I hope/expect that they’ll win 2-4 games this year. Always liked the Cougs.

by GBB4188 on Aug 2, 2010 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Jeff could probably answer this better but

They did recruit some JUCO kids under Doba, and when he left after the 2007 season so did many of those kids. So when Wulff came in during the 2008 season they were incredibly young. Now, they’ve matured a little and are hoping for an upward swing. At least, that’s my understanding of the situation.

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by Joey Kaufman on Aug 2, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doba got a little big for his britches

After the three 10-win seasons, they went after some high profile kids, swung and missed, so they took some chances on some guys, many of whom flamed out. That’s a little simplistic, as there were a lot of other factors, too. But that’s the gist of it. It also led to APR sanctions, where we were under scholarship restrictions the last two years.

Basically, there was a three-year void in recruiting which led to the massive talent gap you saw the last two years. It’s taking time to build it back up.

by Jeff Nusser on Aug 2, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's my understanding

There were basically two dead classes, one where only about 20% of the kids made it to their senior season. No program can sustain a hit like that, that is even more so for probably the toughest BCS conference school to recruit. It’s sad since Doba was such a great guy and actually a very good DC. He should never have been hired as a head coach, not his fault.

by ev on Aug 2, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody quibbled with the hiring

There were some personal issues at work, too — his wife of like 40 years died of cancer about midway through his four years. It took a toll on him.

I don’t think anyone has ill feelings for him. We’re sad that it didn’t work out better, but the guy gave a ton to our school. He’s a first class individual, if not head coach.

by Jeff Nusser on Aug 2, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was really a hindsight statement on my part.

I didn’t think anything wrong with the hire at the time either. Now that I look back, it’s probably never good to hirea long time career assistant as a head coach. Do you think raised expectations had anything to do with his eventual downfall (for lack of a better term). Thing got pretty heady back after the 2003 season.

by ev on Aug 2, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that had something to do with it

If only because we started to fancy ourselves something we weren’t. We got away from what made us successful.

You can read more about that here.

by Jeff Nusser on Aug 2, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

On a smaller scale

Doba hire reminded me of Larry Coker down at the U. Textbook case on not hiring from within. Not to throw Doba under the buss, but after 2002, it seems like WSU could have done more than just promote their DC.

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by Joey Kaufman on Aug 2, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it was a little different than Coker

Think about it this way.

1. WSU was experiencing unprecedented success;
2. Doba was a big part of building that — for about 15 years as defensive coordinator;
3. Many felt like Doba should have been a head coach long before that;
4. The best way to continue this unprecedented success was to hire from within — a guy who knew WSU, knew how the program got to that point, and presumably knew how to keep it there.

Also, despite the success, WSU still had the smallest budget in the Pac-10, and wasn’t going to be able to go out and get a big hire. In order to avoid being a stepping stone job at the height of its success, it made sense to promote a guy who would stick around as long as WSU would have him.

by Jeff Nusser on Aug 2, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great Stuff Joey!

The guys at Coug Center run a top notch operation…

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by Paragon SC on Aug 2, 2010 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I did...it is just like work some days...you'll see one day

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by Paragon SC on Aug 2, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll never work

I plan on marrying well…you’ll see one day

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by Joey Kaufman on Aug 2, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

DO'H!! Ha!

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by Paragon SC on Aug 2, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will say I vote for WSU to finish top 5 in the pac.

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats

by so.cal.native1952 on Aug 3, 2010 12:56 AM PDT reply actions  

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