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Kiffin Continues to be Polarizing

Last week, Joel of SB Nation's Rocky Top Talk wrote an article, noting that our very own Lane Kiffin continues to have some special ability that apparently turns our brains into "mush" through his P.R. stunts and Pete Carroll-esque spin. 

Listen, we know from experience the dilemma a fan experiences when Lane Kiffin takes the reigns of your beloved program and that it can drive you to the edge of insanity, but hopefully you come to your senses before walking off the cliff.    

Whether or not that may be the case, it appears that Kiffin can also have the opposite effect on people. In short, he's about as polarizing as they come. So while many of my fellow Trojan fans continue to defend the new ball coach, it appears as if Kiffin is subsequently driving his critics to this "the edge of insanity" as well.  

Earlier today, a Sporting News radio host by the name of Larry Brown, who by all accounts seems to do a fine job when not discussing 'SC football, took an unwarranted pot shot at Kiffin and his new staff in an article titled "Lane Kiffin Losing Favor at USC."

...familiar names and ties to the golden decade at USC made fans feel comfortable.  That was seven months ago.  Much has transpired since then which has changed the attitude of the Trojan family towards Lane.

Kiffin assured fans, media, and recruits that the program would not be hurt by the NCAA's investigation regarding the alleged violations.  Lane may have been looking out for his program's best interest at the time but his attitude prior to the sanctions appear to have been disingenuous.  

Look, people out there need to understand that nobody at USC was expecting the NCAA to drop the hammer on the football program like it did. There wasn't a single person who anticipated the NCAA sanctions to be this harsh. It wasn't just Kiffin. From Mike Garrett to Matt Barkley to the freshman water boy, the common belief held by most was that the team would lose a few scholarships here and there, but nothing incredibly meaningful.  Even the president, Steven B. Sample, was under the impression that 'SC would escape any penalties of this severity, as he told reporters in February, that the report  "will come out. It will be great." None of us have been writing hate mail to Sample simply because of his incorrect prognostication. The fact that his estimations were wrong does not mean that Kiffin suddenly has to start worrying about his job security. 

Star-divide

Secondly, the notion that Kiffin somehow knew of the 2-year bowl ban long before the NCAA report was to be released is laughable. If you're drinking the Seantrel kool aid than you have some serious issues to check out. I know many of the people who work within the football offices here at 'SC, and all of them indicated to me throughout this process that Kiffin and his staff anticipated a very light sentence from the NCAA. June surprised all of us, not just the fans.

Even more disturbing in this piece is that Brown highlights another reason that is suddenly placing Kiffin on the "hot seat."

He's feeling the pressure so much that he wanted to recruit linebacker Joshua Shirley, who was recently released from his letter of intent by UCLA because of a June arrest for stealing a bag on campus.  Shirley had picked UCLA over USC on signing day, but Kiffin was shot down by the school in his efforts to re-recruit Shirley because they did not want to suffer the public relations hit of recruiting a player kicked off UCLA's team for an arrest.

The Trojans don't open up until September 2nd at Hawaii, but the pressure is already mounting inside Heritage Hall

For starters, there have been absolutely zero reports out there that indicate Kiffin has either been attempting to recruit Shirley or that USC administrators would be opposed to him doing so. This just comes out of nowhere? I guess I fail to understand where he comes up with this stuff. What's his source? Sorry, but a national guy from the Sporting News isn't going to get these scoops before Gary Paskewitz or Dan Weber. That just isn't going to happen, and it isn't a condemnation of Brown at all. It's just the way it is. 

I want to make it clear that Kiffin is in no way under pressure to duplicate the success of Carroll right now. If anything, the sanctions bought him more time should he struggle initially, which is entirely possible. 'SC administrators understand that it's going to take some time to bring the program back to the glory years of 2002-2008. That doesn't mean Kiffin can afford to go 5-7, but he won't be deemed a failure if his teams aren't atop the Pac-10 standings in 2010 and 2011. Nobody with the athletic department is asking Kiffin to go undefeated from day one. But, if you do find somebody who does, let me know.

In the meanwhile, it doesn't appear as if our brains are the only ones going to "mush."

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Kiffin is truly a Trojan today

he is hated by people with no connection to the University based on scurrilous rumors and fake “insiders” that some dude no one has ever heard of claims as sources. I can tell you that among the alums I know opinions of the Kiffin hire have always been a bit mixed, but people are willing to give him a chance.
This should be filed under the “haters” tab, the fact of the matter is that outside the Trojan family opinion about USC ranges from hatred to extreme hatred. I believe that Kiffin has always done his best for USC, and I’m willing to give him a chance as a head coach.

by ilium55 on Jul 15, 2010 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

+1 Rec.

Nicely put. My stance on Kiffin has always been that he’s kind of an unproven commodity. People often cite his career coaching record of 12-21 with Oakland and Tennessee as a condemnation of his abilities, but in the end, they ignore the fact that he’s never even completed three full seasons as a head coach. He never had a chance to do anything in Oakland before Al Davis ran him out of town, and he was only at UT for a year. I find it hard to say A.) He’s a fantastic coach or B.) He’s an awful coach simply because he doesn’t have the track record to indicate either. If anything, his report gives him an incomplete. Just way too soon to have any definite opinions on the guy. I’m cautiously optimistic that he turns this ship around, but I mean, there’s no definite report the either way. It’s definitely a wait and see, and I’m more than willing to wait.

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by Joey Kaufman on Jul 15, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's ludicrous for our rivals to insinuate that they wanted us to have a "better" coach

All our enemies have is self-interest… and fear.

Still LOCO after all these years

All hail Augustus Kiffin!
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by M. AGRIPPA on Jul 15, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of the smart things Colin Cowherd once said was

If rival schools hate your coach, you have a good coach. (see: UCLA’s hate of Carroll)

If rival schools like your coach, you have a bad coach. (see: our love for Dorrell)

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by Joey Kaufman on Jul 15, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

I met Dorrell a couple of times, and he’s one of the nicest guys I’ve ever encountered. The guy seemed incapable of uttering an expletive. Even when he got us 13-9 I couldn’t hate him. The funny thing is despite all his bluster, Skippy has yet to match Dorrell’s record.

Not that Dorrell was a great coach, but I’m on record saying the bruins would rue the day they fired him in favor of Weasel. Yeah, there I go again.

Cue paulv, BF1, 102, and the rest of the gang…

Still LOCO after all these years

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jul 15, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Dorrell did have a better record

and was a nicer guy. Really I would have to challenge any bruin fan to explain how Neuheisel has done better.

You know you can’t resist now DJ. Give in to the dark side.

by frak on Jul 16, 2010 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Feel the anger insider you... Give in to the dark side

Still LOCO after all these years

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jul 16, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I SAID!!!! must not take bait......

and I refuse to give in to the dark side that you Trojans are asking me to give in to. Does this mean that you’re confirming what I long suspected-USC is the evil Empire?

by ucladj89 on Jul 16, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

You make the call young Skywalker

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jul 16, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

UCLA is to stupid and cowardly to be Jet-eyes

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 17, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh hell yeah

I would say if the Trojans could be represented by a star wars faction, it would be the empire. ucla however would probably be the Jawas.

by frak on Jul 17, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bruins are more like Ewoks

Still LOCO after all these years

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jul 17, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

I like the Ewoks. No offense dj.

by WE ARE SC on Jul 17, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm....

think you can say that about writers too….of all types.

try to decipher that…

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on Jul 15, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Insinuating that USC fans are dumb enough to blame

Lane Kiffin for the sanctions should be considered an insult unto itself.

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by RabbitSC on Jul 15, 2010 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Why is Lane Polarizing?

Because someone decided that was Lane Kiffin’s meme and everyone else just mindlessly followed along.

Look, the professional sportswriter class collectively has the IQ of a stalk of celery.

I don’t agree with much of what is written here (i.e., Tim Floyd), but I do come here daily for attempts to present reasoned analysis and to accurately source the information presented. Sad that the content on a fan blog run by people who are more-or-less “volunteers” (no pun intended) is better researched and thought out than the pablum you get from high-paid, high-profile writers like Plaschke and Marriotti.

Besides, in one year he made the awful Jonathan Crompton into an NFL draft pick.

Also, remember when Carroll was hired. Everyone questioned that choice.

by Zoulou on Jul 15, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

You’re on a roll today buddy!

Still LOCO after all these years

All hail Augustus Kiffin!
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by M. AGRIPPA on Jul 15, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

not sure how I am supposed to take this...
I don’t agree with much of what is written here (i.e., Tim Floyd),

You’ll have to clarify that…seems incomplete.

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on Jul 15, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he’s referring to when he sparred with a cartoon mouse and a chihuahua (locoweed and DFW) about Floyd’s coaching abilities. To Zou we were making CTF into a poor man’s Coach K, in actuality we saw him as a huge upgrade over Bibby, and this he was.
Zou predicted it would end in disaster, which it did; but not for the reasons he thought. Still he was omniscient.

Still LOCO after all these years

All hail Augustus Kiffin!
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by M. AGRIPPA on Jul 15, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kiffin’s reputation as polarizing figure was well earned, IMO.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jul 16, 2010 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah the guy is a D-bag

but he’s out D-bag. I don’t expect anyone in the SEC to like Kif, nor do I care if they do or don’t.

by frak on Jul 16, 2010 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not trying to insult the guy, but you can’t blame the media for his reputation.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jul 16, 2010 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

we haven't...they just perpetuate it.

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on Jul 16, 2010 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why is Lane Polarizing?

Because someone decided that was Lane Kiffin’s meme and everyone else just mindlessly followed along.

could have fooled me.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jul 16, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Because they all what to be like Lane

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 17, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is but the finest of D-bags!

Still LOCO after all these years

All hail Augustus Kiffin!
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by M. AGRIPPA on Jul 16, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

The other thing I don't understand

Is that if Lane is such a terrible, polarizing coach, then why the all the obsession about him from Tennessee. Shouldn’t the Vols be glad he’s gone? No one at Florida obsessed over Ron Zook when he was hired by Illinois. They laughed, but they didn’t start a Tea Party style attack campaign against him.

OK, how ’bout a better example. Did Bama obsess over Dennis Franchione the way UT is obsessing over Lane?

I don’t think so (though I could be wrong, I know very little about Bama football), and a big reason is that Franchione left ‘Bama to go to College Station, and Kiffin left UT to go to Los Angeles. I think it highlights UT fan’s deep-down fears that the their state is somewhat of a cultural (Nashville aside) and football-talent backwater (kind of like Iowa: Big Conference Prestige but not enough homegrown talent to succeed on it’s own, though Iowans do not possess Southern bitterness) and that the Tennessee job is more of a stop along the way rather than a destination.

by Zoulou on Jul 15, 2010 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, I think that's the rub.

Bama’s a destination because they have more homegrown talent and/or better access to the Mississippi, Louisiana talent belts and a stronger winning tradition. Oklahoma is similar in that they have a great tradition and inroads to Texas. Florida, FSU, Miami and LSU, more or or less, are destinations because you don’t have to leave the State to recruit. I think I’d put Georgia in there because of the talent base in-state. Michigan, Ohio State ditto (tradition and talent base) thought they have to leave the State more and more as their respective state’s populations age and shrink. Notre Dame is Notre Dame. USC has tradition, local talent base (equal to the South in skill players, though not as strong in talent in linemen) and money. (UCLA has the location but not the tradition and, even more important, the budget.)

by Zoulou on Jul 15, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

One more problem for UT

is indeed their dumbfounding inferiority to Vanderbilt on one hand Nashville on the other. Even Fresno State has more academic prestige than UT.

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jul 15, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frankly...

Southern football fans, like Northeastern baseball fans, seem much more likely to want to live vicariously through the exploits of a bunch of kids they’ve never met. Thus, the relatively unimportant and fun diversion that is college football becomes life or death to them.

Really though, it boils down to the fact that it’s a school with some tradition- enough for people to care about its success, but not meaningful enough to match up with the likes of college football’s most storied and successful programs today. Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Miami- all schools in that region that have more going for them than Tennessee does in that regard. Even given the outstanding Peyton Manning teams, and they really were great teams, Tennessee doesn’t match up in terms of being a “destination” in the South right now. It is an endless “little brother” complex, despite the fact that Tennessee does have great tradition and has had some great success in the past and in the last 20 years).

That’s not to insult UT or the state. It’s just the facts.

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by Brad Otton Is My Homeboy on Jul 15, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be honest...

We are glad he is gone. I will grant you there was much anger when Kiffin left — from me included. However, the thought that Tennessee is only a ‘step along the way’ is, in my opinion, false. Even with the thought that Tennessee is a “football-talent backwater”, we were THE team of the ‘90s. Also, Franchione didn’t leave after one year. Also, while we would still probably be angry that Kiffin left after only one year, we would not have been a quarter as angry if he didn’t leave the way that he did. For me, I understand going for his dream job. I’d probably do it, too. Attempting to steal away players that had already committed to Tennessee and were to enroll almost the SAME day he left was pretty underhanded. I think we understand that he wasn’t a good fit for us. That’s fine. I still think Tennessee still has a right to be angry. Of course, the over-the-top statements and threats to him and his family are inexcusable and we at RTT condemn those strenuously. Each fan base has idiots. Again, however, I think we have cause to be upset in the manner of his departure.

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by mike2ray on Jul 16, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Attempting to steal away players that had already committed to Tennessee and were to enroll almost the SAME day he left was pretty underhanded.

Welcome to the recruiting wars….may I introduce you to Slick Rick.

I still think Tennessee still has a right to be angry. Of course, the over-the-top statements and threats to him and his family are inexcusable and we at RTT condemn those strenuously.

You’ll have to show me where…

Each fan base has idiots.

yeap…I can name more than a few, especially those who claim some sort of moral superiority…but lets not go there…………yet

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on Jul 17, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Points taken. I would probably have to go back into comments on various articles to find our condemnation of the personal attacks and threats. I will say this, not one Tennessee fan that I have encountered has voiced any support for those dumbass remarks. They reflect poorly on Tennessee in every way possible. However, the fringe element does not represent the vast majority of our great fan base. Of course, they will get the attention and it isn’t surprising due to the absolute insanity of the statements.

As for recruiting, you are correct. However, it does not make it any less upsetting. I’m sure if the situation were reversed, you’d feel the same. I wouldn’t even blame you.

To Strive, To Seek, To Find, and Not to Yield.

by mike2ray on Jul 17, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not that it matters...

But I disagree…

The answer is right there but you aren’t seeing it.

Look, it really doesn’t matter to me…people can say what they want, I am not easily offended and internet tough guys are rampant throughout all the sites. I get it everyone at one time or another gets a little ballsy when they sit behind the keyboard. I laugh a lot of the stuff I read that is said about me, why? Because if they are talking about me then I must either 1) matter or 2) are doing something right.

Kind of like Kiffin…for someone who is supposedly hated so much he sure does get a lot of attention from UT fans.

People are free to come and go here as they like but I am not going simply allow trolls or flamers to just pop in and shit on my lawn. Like one of my members said recently….if the comment is really constructive and adds something to the conversation then it will be just as relevant 5 days later.

5 days cools the flamers down…they usually don’t come back if all they wanted to do is flame because something usually comes up to take them in a different direction…Joel can run his site how wishes. He can either have a class site or let it turn into Romper Room for all I care…it is his show.

As for recruiting…I was pretty clear that if Kiffin or Orgeron broke the rules on the way out the door that they should face the music…if it happened then it was wrong. But no one bothered to search this site…they just went through the typical knee jerk reaction in their comments on RTT.

Anyway, I really don’t care, but seeing that you seem like a decent gent I figured I would explain my thoughts…what you do with them is entirely up to you.

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on Jul 18, 2010 4:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you want to see a site run amok with TROLLS,

Visit InsideSC and tread lightly into Wolf’s Cesspool.

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"I've got blisters on my fingers!!!!!!"

by gnossos on Jul 18, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say that UT is a "step along the way"

Everyone knows the history behind Tennessee football. I would say that Kiffin would never intend to stay in Tennessee for a long period of time. I thought he would max out in 5 years and find somewhere else to go. I never expected him to leave after 1 season though.

by frak on Jul 17, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

And neither did he, I'm sure.

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by RabbitSC on Jul 17, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Kiff bought a nice house and named his newborn Knox!!! He thought he would be there at least 5 years and built a staff capable of winning the conference.

He was as shocked as Trojan Nation when PC left, and then twice as shocked when he received the job offer. The window may only open once, so Kiff was ballsy enough to jump through it.

That’s what really pisses others off, I think. Kiff shows no remorse, and has giant huevos of steel. The guy is a cold-blooded assassin. I believe this characteristic will make him one of the great coaches in America.

Death to the NCAA!!!

by DFWTrojan on Jul 18, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

It ain't a popularity contest

It’s all about Ws & Ls.

Death to the NCAA!!!

by DFWTrojan on Jul 18, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Operaritive Point

“THE WINDOW MAY ONLY OPEN ONCE!”

"Government is the opiate of the masses" Dennis Prager
"I've got blisters on my fingers!!!!!!"

by gnossos on Jul 18, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Spelling - Operative

"Government is the opiate of the masses" Dennis Prager
"I've got blisters on my fingers!!!!!!"

by gnossos on Jul 18, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

However, the thought that Tennessee is only a ‘step along the way’ is, in my opinion, false.

But it was for him. Life happens. I’m sure he didn’t take the job feeling that way.

by WE ARE SC on Jul 17, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Typical.

We just have to get used to people ripping on our school, because quite frankly, it’s what people want to read.

Facts or not, it’s what sells right now.

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by Brad Otton Is My Homeboy on Jul 15, 2010 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Agree

Kiffin has done an excellent job of recruiting, and holding the key pieces of the current team together…so far. Few Trojans would dispute that.

It remains to be seen whether he can achieve the type of success on the field that Trojan fans expect. He appears committed to doing the job to the best of his ability, and he does have some proven assistants on his staff. Few Trojans would dispute that.

When Kiffin accepted the job, the sanctions were a done deal in the eyes of the NCAA. It is ridiculous to hold him accountable, one way or another, whether he knew what the sanctions would be or not. Someone was going to walk into our current situation, and Lane didn’t think twice. Few Trojans would dispute that.

I’m not sure where all the “polarity” is coming from, but it’s not coming from many people who understand USC football as far as I can tell. USC fans should enjoy the ride. It’s fun to have so many people rooting against us, especially since USC may fare well over the next few years, despite the sanctions. We may not achieve the success that we enjoyed with Carroll, but it should be at least as interesting. If we succeed, it will definitely be gratifying. F the haters!

by TrojanJAG on Jul 15, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes it is amazing how much attention of hate (USC) is going on, really what did we do.

A). Run over their dog
B). Knock-up their sister
C). Pick-up on their wife
D). Beat them in a sport (see ucla and BN)
E). Say things about their mother
F). all of the above

Look this Larry Brown looks to be 21-26 WTF does he know about anything, and why is the Sporting News dug so low. Maybe because they are the bottom of the barrel anyway.

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 16, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t see any reason that the good folks from Tennessee need to like Kiffin, but it certainly seems like they’re falling all over themselves to provide warnings that veer from the well-intentioned-but-misplaced to lightly patronizing. If he was that bad, they’re well shot of him. I understood that a lot of the complaints when he left were centered on him trying to slavishly replicate what had worked at SC. It’s easy to see where that was a sub-optimal choice in Knoxville, but it may well work again in LA. Or not: as Joey and ilium55 point out, Kiffin’s track record isn’t that long. Who knows, lightning may strike twice… or not.

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by DC Trojan on Jul 15, 2010 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

But

it will make for an interesting ride………………..and that’s all we can ask for…………..because we ain’t promised anything!

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"I've got blisters on my fingers!!!!!!"

by gnossos on Jul 15, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yawn

more of the same from hater nation. must be mid-summer.

by DFWTrojan on Jul 15, 2010 10:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Anyone who's worn an SC shirt since the sanctions

gotten the “I can’t believe you’re wearing that shirt” look from passersby? I have several times.

by uscdude on Jul 15, 2010 11:11 PM PDT reply actions  

F'em

"Government is the opiate of the masses" Dennis Prager
"I've got blisters on my fingers!!!!!!"

by gnossos on Jul 16, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would wear it to opening day of ucla football with pride

I don’t hide my gear when times are tough. Its better to fly the flag in support when things get bad. Chances are it was a ucla fan. Right now all they have to be happy about is our problems. Just tell them that you are happy that they have a nice distraction from the simple fact that their football and basketball team sucks.

by frak on Jul 16, 2010 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and by the way

The only razzing that I have gotten from strangers was from 2 waiters when I went out to eat that were bruin alums.

by frak on Jul 16, 2010 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

No I gave them my customary 20%

although they were extremely unprofessional. If I left less, they probably would have bitched about it on BN.

by frak on Jul 17, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love getting that look

You walk by and they stare at you, while you look up to them and just give them that " yea well, f*** you too" face

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by Joey Kaufman on Jul 16, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

+ me REC

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 16, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol - I love it

figured I wasn’t the only one – f*** em indeed! fight on!

by uscdude on Jul 16, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wear my hat almost everyday and warm-ups tops, but really no one says anything but I do live in OC and go to LB area a lot.

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 16, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's another thing I love about OC

whenever I play golf down there, invariably, the Pro Shop at the facility is a USC house!

"Government is the opiate of the masses" Dennis Prager
"I've got blisters on my fingers!!!!!!"

by gnossos on Jul 16, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only SC gear I won't wear again is my #5 Football Jersey

Everything else I’m still proud to have

[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]

by bluemax on Jul 16, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep but I have never been into Autographs or Jerseys in any sport, this goes back to all the hollywood people I met who were friends of my Moms.

I saw at a young age that those people were just see-through, so after about a year I always threw away the stuff they gave me.

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 17, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting that he says Kiffin was the one that wanted to publicize the Dillon Baxter issue.

I don’t know anything about the author or his credibility though. As you said, he doesn’t cite any sources.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jul 16, 2010 6:37 AM PDT reply actions  

we obviously disagree with this...

I emailed the guy told him we disagreed….

this is what I mean about perpetuating a narrative…the guy didn’t or can’t back this claim up.

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on Jul 16, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I e-mailed him too

All he said was his sources were legit and wouldn’t go any further.

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by Joey Kaufman on Jul 16, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well I just gave him a opinion

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 16, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

When you say you disagree

is that based on any information you have or just your intuition? It does seem to fit with Kiffin’s reputation, of course that doesn’t mean that it’s true since it could be tempting for people to use that reputation in order to make up a story.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jul 16, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well. . . . . . .

. . . . THIS has been a fun read!

I’m IN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck them skeezy perpetrators. Hate On!
And fuck them haters too! Hate On!

Saying “U-S-C!” to a hater, is like giving beads to a stripper at Mardi Gras! You know you’re gonna get some. ! . ! . !

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Jul 16, 2010 8:59 PM PDT reply actions  

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