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Sanctiongate: Takedown USC

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More than two weeks have passed since the NCAA Committee on Infractions slammed USC football with the harshest penalties since the SMU death sentence. Our most fervent rivals declared the punishment inadequate, while the rest of the college football world gave smirking approval while expressing condolences and bemoaning the unfairness of it all.

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In the immediate aftermath of the explosion, Mike Garrett poured gasoline on the fire when he blurted to an alumni group "I read between the lines and there was nothing but a lot of envy."  Up in Seattle, Pete Carroll produced a video statement and concluded that "the agenda of the NCAA infractions committee took them beyond the facts, and the facts don’t match the sanctions."

The media’s response to those pronouncements was immediate and emotional to the point of sounding hormonal. For example, SI’s Mark Rosenberg said "Judging from the way he has handled this USC scandal from the beginning, Garrett seems like the kind of guy who would sucker-punch you in a dark alley, then sue your face." Dennis Dodd, "take a look at the USC infractions report: There was so much bling being tossed around that Kardashian should be jealous. By the looks of things, Bush has actually cut back his spending since his college days." These comments would be expected from ucla or sec fans, but aren’t Rosenberg, Dodd and a host of others supposed to be a little more objective? Though the NCAA’s report had barely seen the light of day, it was accepted as if it had come from the heavens.

Now that the dust has started to settle, a few reporters (here, here, and here) have begun to question the mixture of factual errors, gross assumptions, vindictiveness and sanctimony that underpin the work of the infractions committee. The media attacks on Garrett’s athletic department were to be expected, but the over the top rhetoric against the entire university is making many us wonder if there isn’t something larger happening.

It’s not just about football. As everyone knows, the competition between universities is not limited to athletics; the pressure on schools to increase or maintain their USNWR rankings is also tremendous. The meteoric rise of USC’s ranking during the Steve Sample Era has rubbed many competing administrators the wrong way.  One of the major components of the ranking is the "peer review survey" in which similar institutions state their admiration for each other.  The hysteria will cause USC’s peer review will take a hit, and if it results in a drop in the rankings they will dance in the streets from Westwood to the Bay Area, to Austin, up to South Bend and down to Florida.

So who are the members of the COI?  If you read the list you may find yourself wondering about their ability to remain impartial or even objective, or even able to restrain themselves from becoming a lynch mob. Here are some of the most notable vested interests:

The COI chairperson, Paul Dee, is the former athletic director at the University of Miami (USNWR Rank #50) and a professor at that school. He received his B.A. from the University of Florida (yes, he’s a Gator) and his law degree from Miami. His "convicts" operated under heavy sanctions after the chaos of the Dennis Ericson era. He has worked tirelessly to repair his legacy and the reputation of the "U", his success is reflected in the minimization of the ‘Canes history of repeated troubles with law enforcement and the NCAA. Don’t believe me? Just visit Miami’s Wikipedia page and you’ll see what I mean. With the destruction of the Trojans, Paul Dee’s beloved Hurricanes look not so bad; the jail Gators get a little boost too.

Melissa L. Conboy is the Deputy Director of Athletics at Notre Dame (USNWR Rank #20); she’s worked in the ND athletics department for 22 years. It has been frustrating lately. USC is Notre Dame’s greatest rival, but the Irish haven’t been able to beat the Trojans since 2001. Making matters worse, many of those losses were lopsided affairs that caused much turmoil, anger and resentment in the ND community. How do Domers spell relief? S-a-n-c-t-i-o-n-s

James O’Fallon of the University of Oregon represents the Pac-10. He received his law degree from Stanford University. Really. Professor O’Fallon is a faculty athletic representative to the NCAA, he clerked at the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals and taught at Harvard. This Tree come Duck practically landed on a golden opportunity to guarantee his school at least two more Pac-10 championships. He had to recuse himself from the committee, but it wouldn’t be a stretch for his friends on he COI to do him a little favor. O’Fallon was replaced by former COI member Josephine Potuto of Nebraska.

Josephine Potuto of the University of Nebraska has been the Huskers faculty representative to the NCAA and Big 12 Conference since 1997. She is a visiting professor at the University of Oregon and the University of Arizona -a detail that should have disqualified her from sitting on the COI. A tough little broad from Jersey, Prof. Potuto is a former member of the COI and was asked to return in order to replace James O’Fallon of Oregon, hmm. As a writer of rules, she is by far the greatest apologist for the NCAA’s way of doing business. In 2004, Potuto testified before the House Subcommittee on the Constitution regarding due process in NCAA infractions hearings, among the topics was one Mike Williams of USC. On page 9 of the record, Subcommittee Chair Mr. Steve Chabot states the following:

"It has been 13 years since Congress last examined the procedures that the NCAA uses to investigate and enforce its rules. In that time, the NCAA has made several changes, most notably the addition of a more robust appellate system for infraction cases, that have provided greater protections for member institutions, coaches and student-athletes. However, the NCAA has failed to take action on several recommendations of its own 1991 study, most notably, those relating to the hiring of independent judges to hear infractions cases and the opening of these proceedings to all. This hearing will examine those recommendations and the NCAA's decisions not to implement them. We will also examine the investigated individual's role in the process and their ability to participate fully in it. And we will examine the NCAA's restitution rule, which punishes member institutions in the event that student-athlete initiated litigation is ever resolved in favor of the NCAA."

So, despite having felt the heat of United States Congress, Professor Potuto, Paul Dee and the rest of the COI attacked USC as if Mr. Chabot's Hearings had meant nothing. Perhaps this time the NCAA went a bridge too far, but where are our elected representatives?

Conference USA (home of previous death penalty recipient SMU) was represented by Britton Banowsky. A Los Angeles native, his father was the president of Pepperdine University and the University of Oklahoma. Banowsky received his bachelors and law degrees from the University of Oklahoma; he worked previously for the Big-12 and has spent most of his life in Texas. No bias here either, yeah right.

The Atlantic 10 Conference is represented by the bookish Eleanor W. Myers of Temple University. She is a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania where she received her B.A. and law degrees. Professor Myers was a teaching fellow at Stanford Law School from 1975 to 1976 then returned to Philadelphia to pursue a career in securities and antitrust class action litigation; she joined Temple in 1983. She is the definition of East Coast bias with a massive dose of Ivy League elitism and Stanford haughtiness.

The remaining five are: Rodney J. Uphoff of the University of Missouri, representing the Big-12; Dennis E. Thomas, representing the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference and three lawyers, Brian Halloran, John Black, and Roscoe Howard. Good luck finding a sensitive ear in this bunch. For more information on the inner workings of the COI read this article on SI.com.

You can’t make this stuff up folks. Unfortunately the WWL and the East Coast media are so heavily invested in the prevailing forms of yellow journalism that it will be up to the independents like Rivals and SbB to do some actual reporting.

As Pete Carroll said "the facts don’t match the sanctions."  Perhaps Mike Garrett, the proverbial broken clock was right for once, "I read between the lines and there was nothing but a lot of envy."  He's finally learned how to smell a rat.

 

 

 

 

 

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by Paragon SC on Jun 27, 2010 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Carroll and Garrett

Carroll did well on his comments and video.

As the dust settles, while a bit arrogant, Mike Garrett probably hit the nail on the head.

by lonobird on Jun 27, 2010 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Rec'd!!!!!!! and BRAVO!

Excellent synopsis of this whole mess, Paul Dee is a pompous piece of poo! and now we know who his little helpers are, the COI = judge, jury and executioner.
Garrett got it right after all!

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by gnossos on Jun 27, 2010 6:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Wonderful piece, Loco!

The fix is in! I look forward to future congressional hearings that further expose the corrupt monopoly that is the NCAA. One point of clarification is that, as detailed in the wonderful documentary The U, the atmosphere of lawlessness at Miami was started by the great Howard Schnellenberger, deepened by Jimmy Johnson, and merely sustained by Dennis Erickson. Erickson just got left sitting in a game of musical chairs when the NCAA decided to crack down on outlaw football programs.

Down with the monopolistic, prejudiced, tax-exempt profiteer that is the NCAA!!!

by DFWTrojan on Jun 27, 2010 7:08 PM PDT reply actions  

And sitting on the whole pile of shit was..............

Pompous ass Paul Dee

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by gnossos on Jun 27, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting that even though The U

was involved in rampant institutionalized cheating for 15 years, their penalty was a one year bowl ban and 31 scholarships.

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 27, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, I read 24 scholies

Paul Dee has been quoted as saying 31, but that is not accurate per wikipedia. Plus, it was only 3 years of probation vs 5 yrs for us.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 27, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

They got around the scholarship ban

by giving football recruits track scholarships, and having them walk-on the football team. The NCAA closed that loop-hole. Now you can’t play football unless you are on a football scholarship, or no scholarship at all.

by frak on Jun 28, 2010 6:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow what a crock of crap is that-------------I mean I never would of thought of that but changing the rules because someone figure out how to get by is totally bunk.

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 28, 2010 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

question

The NCAA is not going to give up this power so forget about it. given that fact and the fact that a jury of your peers is a basic tenet for justice to prevail. then where should the members of the committee come from?
 the committee members seem to be from division 1 (or whatever they call it now) Football schools.

you seem to have ruled out the east coast, west coast, mid america and south west.

by xgenx on Jun 27, 2010 7:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Independents, as recommended by the congressional oversight committee

People with actual real training, provable lack of bias, and valuable adjudication experience would be a nice place to start. An independent committee of judges and certified mediation/arbitration attorneys.

There is a reason that our government separates executive, legislative, and judicial authority – checks and balances. Any more questions?

by DFWTrojan on Jun 27, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO!

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by gnossos on Jun 27, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

That kid need to do some reading!

LINK

This hearing is about fairness, particularly the fairness the NCAA displays in enforcing its rules. Merited or not, the NCAA has at least the perception of a fairness problem. Evidence of this is found in newspapers, such as stories regarding the NCAA’s decision not to restore eligibility to Jeremy Bloom, who is with us today, and Mike Williams. It is found in courtrooms, where two former Alabama assistant coaches have sued the NCAA for alleged violations of procedural due process. It is also found in State legislatures, such as the State of Nevada, which passed statutes providing particular due process rights for NCAA investigations conducted within their States. And it is found in the NCAA’s own 1991 study conducted by former Solicitor General Rex Lee, which proposed 11 recommendations the NCAA should undertake to improve fairness in its procedures.

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 27, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Q2

well yes i do have another question- Can we start the season already?
I need a football fix, starting to get the shakes!!!!

by xgenx on Jul 1, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Follow the link to the transcript of the Congressional Hearing.

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 27, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome expose', Agrippa!

Especially the part where the NCAA COI hasn’t met it’s obligation to modify it’s review procedures “relating to the hiring of independent judges to hear infractions cases and the opening of these proceedings to all.” If, after the appeals process- I’m hoping USC fervently explores legal recourse against the NCAA along the lines of “bias” and “fairness” as it applies to the convening of COI panel members and evidentiary review.

From what I’ve gathered, based upon the more recent changes to the NCAA Appeals procedures, USC will have a tough time trying to convince the Appeals Committee to review- much less allow, the matters pertaining to the inaccuracies involved in the questioning of Coach McNair regarding the “Jan. 8, 2005/Jan. 8, 2006 alleged phone calls to/from Lloyd Lake’s cell phone”. It seems outright unfair of the NCAA to disallow these investigative errors, which- in turn, is the cornerstone of their judgmental conclusions that Coach McNair “lied or misled” the NCAA investigators.

If USC is forced to fight for a reduction of sanctions wholly on “precedent” alone, we will lose. Because we’d be having to fight for reduced sanctions under the auspices of “repeat offender, as well as being on probation” at the time of infractions.

What I’m holding out hope for in all this is that USC prepares a lawsuit against the NCAA that strikes at the heart of it’s infraction review process, as well as it’s modifications to the appeals process. As a tax-exempt organization, it’s bylaws for infraction review and appeals procedures are draconian and heavy-handed. There is not one ounce of fairness in either of them.

This post of yours, Agrippa- has been rec’d. (I only wish I could rec it 10 more times!)

Bravo, maestro!

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by BixBeiderbecke on Jun 27, 2010 9:37 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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by gnossos on Jun 27, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you for the kind words Bix

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 27, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Freeh Group International

is on the case. The criminal NCAA is going down under the US Code Title 18 – The RICO Act.

DON’T TREAD ON ME

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 27, 2010 11:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes it is time we the people take the ncaas tea and throw it overboard

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 27, 2010 11:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Due Process and the NCAA. September 14, 2004

Opening remarks by Congressman Spencer Bachus of Alabama: LINK

If you go back to the Magna Carta, 1215, the principle of due process was first at least discussed openly in England and embodied in the Magna Carta. Over the next several hundred years, certain things became basically acceptable. One of those things was open hearings. When people were deprived of their freedom, their property, an open hearing was granted.
Some of you may have heard of the star chambers in England. Our NCAA representative teaches constitutional law at the University of Nebraska. The star chambers were originally—sessions were open to the public. However, under Charles I and other kings, they began to misuse their power, abused their power, and one of the first things they did was to take away the public hearings. They explained that away by saying it was expedient and saved time, and also it was too much trouble to allow the public to come in.
If you look at the Supreme Court decisions—and I have several which I will submit for the record—but the Supreme Court makes it clear that not only in criminal procedures but in civil procedures, that our citizens should enjoy due process. They talk about independent triers of the fact, public hearings, right to confront the witnesses and know the witnesses against you, that those should apply in all civil matters of importance as well as criminal matters.
How does that apply to the NCAA, a, quote, so-called volunteer organization? Well, first of all—and I have heard the Chairman and others talk about a voluntary organization. I think that anybody that has studied the NCAA readily realizes that the athletes are not members nor are they invited to be members, but the great number of decisions affect more athletes than anyone else. Athletes are not members, and they have no input, but they are controlled.
In fact, that is why the Harvard Business School said that the number one monopoly in America is not Microsoft, is not Wal-Mart, is not the West Coast Longshoremen’s Union, not the post office, it is not even OPEC. They said it is the NCAA, which has total power and abuses that power. They also said this, that the NCAA—with the NCAA in charge, the student remains poor. With the NCAA in charge, the student remains poor. They talk about the NCAA trying to maintain the high ground but not doing a very good job of it.
 And they pointed out, as did the NCAA—and this is maybe my last poor point and the main point of this hearing—the NCAA itself looked at their procedures. They assembled a Supreme Court judge, a solicitor general, former attorney general, several law school professors, and they studied how can we better improve our system of enforcement.
I am going to submit three articles from 1991 and 1992. They agree that two things they ought to do—and this was their own committee. They agreed they ought to have public, open hearings. And I can cite from Justice Marshall numerous—over 100 Supreme Court cases that talk about the importance of letting the sunshine in. And you will see the explanation of the witness for the NCAA and the reason that she gives for not having open hearings, which is a rather unusual reason. But they said that. They said they ought to have the right to confront witnesses and, most importantly—and the cases are very clear on this—an impartial trier of the fact.
Well, you know, these 1991 and 1992 articles say the NCAA is going to adopt those and going to take the pressure off of them from congressional hearings, court hearings, legislatures, the public, which has demanded these things. Guess what? They didn’t do it. According to USA Today, the two most important reforms they have failed utterly to do. And who has been victimized by this? It is the student-athlete. You will hear from one of them today.
And I can tell you, the longer you study this, you realize that the NCAA and sometimes the member institutions trade off and those that lose are those without power, the coaches and, more often than the coaches, the athletes who are victimized by this system. Four hundred and eighty-five billion dollars a year in revenue goes into the system, yet the NCAA says it cannot afford to give due process, something that our common law tradition has been with us for hundreds of years. But that tradition is not in NCAA.
So, we have the reason why the NCAA can’t provide due process to its member institutions, they just can’t afford it. ROTFLMAO!

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 27, 2010 11:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Look at THAT all that money and NO TAXES I am sure our country could use that money at this moment.

You know I used to think it was all the write-offs that need to come out of our system, but it is the phony NON-PROFIT that needs to go. Wow organized crime still lurks, where is Elliot Ness’s when you need them, probably just disappearing into the sunset.

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 28, 2010 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

FOUR HUNDERED AND EIGHTY-FIVE BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR??????

and they can’t afford what?

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by gnossos on Jun 28, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

And your point is??????????????????

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by gnossos on Jun 28, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Welcome to CC, I guess?

Your first comment.

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 28, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

You just cracked me up sometimes Loco!

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 28, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah...what's that about??

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by Paragon SC on Jun 28, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

SANCTIONGATE

I went back and forth with it but after reading everyone’s response and reviewing the history of The U, the title applies. This is truly a Sanctiongate and it will be the downfall of the corrupt plantation that is the NCAA.

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 28, 2010 7:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Loco the stuff you have been writing lately is fantastic, thanks man.

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 28, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

After reading and hearing various things

I’m starting to think that the NCAA used the illegal recordings from Lake to corroborate his story. Basically, we don’t know what was said on those tapes, but my guess is that it can’t be good for USC or McNair. I would like to know what was on them, but that part of the puzzle might never be public.

by frak on Jun 28, 2010 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Lake recorded his conversations with Bush. It would be a stretch for him to record the 3 minute call he made to McNair but who knows.

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 28, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

No way he was probably stoned at the time and drunk too, it probably would have been a 30 sec. call but with load music and Lake probably under the influence he couldn't get his point across.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0E5TY7ibM4

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 28, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read the Congressional Sub-committee's report, as well!

And I re-read it again, even more intently than the first time. From what I gathered, there was a lot of good information in it that might help USC’s position regarding our appeal- however, there was a few separate entries in the report that, if accurate and factual- doesn’t bode well for USC’s appeal for reduced sanctions.

First, the bad: Ms. Potuto states that, before NCAA enforcement presents it’s staff report to the Committee on Infractions, USC has or had the ability to refute any fact-finding evidence, information, data, or interview transcripts that the enforcement staff wished to state or provide to the COI prior to the infractions hearing. It makes me wonder, why didn’t Garrett, USC legal counsel, or USC Compliance dispute the alleged phone calls supposedly made between Coach McNair and Lloyd Lake, challenge the inaccuracies of dates and subsequent misleading questions that NCAA enforcement asked of Lake and McNair in their respective interviews during the investigative process, and more importantly- why didn’t USC aggressively pursue any and all measures to quash or omit any of these pertinent bits of information from finding it’s way in to the enforcement staff’s official report to the COI in the first place. By not doing so (and with that, I realize I am only assuming they didn’t challenge, dispute, or quash this information. I don’t know one way or the other if my assumptions are correct or at all factual)- USC has put themselves in the unfortunate position of playing “legal catch-up”, in which the NCAA Appeals committee might not allow to be reviewed at this stage. Secondly, Ms. Potuto also stated that member’s appearing before the COI have the ability or option to have their case heard before an outside/independent panel of professional arbiters or individuals with professional law backgrounds that are not currently affiliated nor employed by any member institutions involved with the NCAA. How come USC didn’t petition to be heard by an independent panel or outside arbiter in defending the allegations brought forth by the NCAA enforcement investigators? (there’s more, but for brevity- that will do for now)

The Good: The COI didn’t come close to following their own bylaws in A. convening an impartial panel for our hearing. B. didn’t provide USC any benefit of professional courtesies regarding veracity or credibility in refuting the information contained in the investigations report or in the presentation of USC’s own fact-finding investigation and the contents contained therein. And C. due to the overwhelming public interest, the COI panel quite obviously paid more attention to outside circumstancial evidence and third-party hearsay information rather than the cold-hard facts and corroborated evidence it could have and should have strongly considered (given the difficulty of compelling individuals to testify to and the lack of hard-evidence/paper-trail that was not sufficiently provided to the COI panel) in finding judgment and drawing conclusions during the Infractions Hearing.

In other words, we might not get very far with our appeal, but we’ve got more than enough ammunition to help our cause if we decide to litigate these sanctions in federal court.

Great link, Agrippa! I now have renewed hope for USC in their defense of all these flimsy Bush allegations, as it pertains to USC’s involvement, compliance, and position.

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by BixBeiderbecke on Jun 28, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting Bix

Yeah, I’ve never heard that USC had the option to request a completely independent panel. Also, it is my understanding that discovery in a legal investigation requires the investigator to search for both incriminating AS WELL AS exculpatory evidence. The NCAA certainly did investigate with that legal standard in mind.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 28, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice work Bix

The more technical legal issues will have to be resolved in court. It gets even more interesting because California passed it’s own versions of Nevada’s “Tarkanian” statutes.

USC offered a deal to the NCAA that puts significant penalties on the football program while not destroying it. If the NCAA accepts this thing is over, but if they don’t it will get ugly.

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 28, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

+27

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 28, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

USC is guilty of major recruiting and NCAA violations

Even with these factual errors corrected, I am not sure how anyone could objectively not state that USC doesn’t deserve a significant punishment.

by Alious on Jun 28, 2010 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

No, no no no...please tell me you didn't...

Show me the recruiting violations…what page please…

Buckle up…

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by Paragon SC on Jun 28, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amazing, eh?

After four fraggin’ years, how is it possible that some people are yet, still thoroughly confused regarding the alleged infractions stemming from this Bush investigation? A recruiting violation? What. The. Who’s it? Why?

That’s it! I’m now being forced to becoming furiously indifferent towards our “guests”. Indifferent, being the operative word.

Hey Alious Sphincter? Do us a favor, look up the word “comprehend” and. . . . . do it one of these days! It’s new. And different. And kinda fun, you might be accused of actually being engaging if you practice real hard at it. Enn-gay-jing! Yessiree, one of these days boy! If you’re lucky?

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by BixBeiderbecke on Jun 28, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT?

So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 28, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh, just a drive by artist

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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 28, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oooo, how witty!

Get it, his alias is “Alious.” My, aren’t you clever!

by CPEM on Jun 28, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

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