"The NCAA will not comment on the content of confidential documents. However, it is important to note that the recent story from fan site USCFootball.com takes select pieces of information from comprehensive documents out of context, weaving them into an inaccurate depiction. When reaching a decision, the Committee on Infractions carefully considers the hearing discussions and reviews all documents from all parties in their entirety, not just excerpts taken out of their original context."
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Very interesting
There was more than a little sting in USCFootball’s response of the NCAA’s Keystone Cops wouldn’t have responded.
“the Committee on Infractions carefully considers the hearing discussions and reviews all documents from all parties in their entirety, not just excerpts taken out of their original context”In other words, they don’t want to let let the facts outweigh outright speculation and prejudicial notions.
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I just read out Jay Mariotti on espn radio, that guy is an idiot.
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 25, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Mariotti is the Chicago version of Plaschke
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Wrong
Mariotti makes Plaschke look like Red Smith, Ring Lardner and Jim Murray all rolled into one.
Mariotti is his own special circle of hell.
I can live with that! LOL
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I read where he got punched in the nose by Ken Harrelson, then said later in his radio show he was going to "pinch Hawk's beak off".[
Mariotti was saying that USC got off lightly on 710 and they shouldn’t appeal, or they will get hit with more. Then he goes on to say that he knows USC was paying players, what a complete D-Bag that guy is.
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 26, 2010 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions
ND
This contrivance is looking more and more Domer centric by the day, with ample doses of SEC cheerleading.
As ND football fades into irrelevancy, their lackeys in the media have become desperate for a win over USC. There is no bigger ND apologist than Mariott. Zoulou is correct.
“Avarice, envy, pride, three fatal sparks, have set the hearts of all on fire.”Yesterday, USC handed the NCAA a dignified way to avoid a conflagration. ND gets their little handicap and SEC egos are salved. The question is, are they so stupid that they prefer to see college football set on fire?
Dante Alighieri – The Divine Comedy
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This just in
NCAA annoyed that other people are able to take a series of facts and string them together in a fashion that best meets their interests.
This is going to be a farce, regardless of the outcome.
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The only explanation is
they must be extremely desperate to put Notre Dame football back on the map.
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Millers Take...
The NCAA has some balls…
They Say USCFootball.com took statements out of context in their piece….to which in turn the NCAA issues a statement denouncing said article yet isn’t taking things out of context by using the wrong year in their report?
You can make this stuff up…
I wish ’SC would have had this type of backbone before they met with the COI
Get your popcorn and coolers tis should be a doozie.
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GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT! THESE GUYS ARE BUREAUCRATS TO THE NTH DEGREE. paul dee that pompous ass must be stopped.
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3. a graduate of ucla
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You are always backing me up!
A true Trojan!
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Great one M
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 26, 2010 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Gary Klein
is promising a writeup in the LAT later today.
Link
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THIS IS the neutral, non-profit, anti-trust exempt governing JUDGE and JURY for college athletics?!?
Are you kidding me? Getting their panties in a wad over a fringe MSM, USC-centric, sports media site owned by an Internet search company? What’s next, a twitter war? Quick, someone check Paul Dee’s twitter account! I know that Mike Garrett is not allowed to have a twitter account by Todd Dickey.
WHAT.A.FARCE! The sad thing is that the Appeals Committee may be much more inclined to protect the mothership than give an honest remedy to a harmed member institution. This is no longer about sanctions. It is about public perception. And, USC, sadly, joined the PR battle too late. However, USC must fight and make this battle as ugly as possible if the NCAA is intent on railroading us. Congress is watching the NCAA. Not that that is a good thing. But, if USC is going to fight, then we need to die with our boots on.
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That's exactly what I said to those hacks on Espn you have to fight back, you know a lot of these kids don't realize how this country came about.
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 25, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
REMEMBER THE ALAMO!
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REMEMBER THERMOPYLAE!
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BEAT THE PERSIANS!
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Nice writeup in the Bleacher Report
Reid Brooks makes the case that the appeal presents an opportunity for the NCAA to restore some fairness to its punishments, and a 5 scholarship for year reduction wouldn’t damage USC much.
“Other than Northwestern, USC has signed fewer players than any school in the country over the past four years.Brooks also throws out this little zinger:
The school doesn’t use all of its scholarships now anyway and does not have a rampant overrecruiting problem, in comparison to schools like Auburn.
Over the last four years, USC signed 78 players while Auburn unbelievably signed more than 115. Many of those students lost scholarships when they didn’t play as well as the Tigers had hoped.
For USC fans, this is a story to keep a close eye on. If the Trojans are successful in their appeal, it provides a rebirth of the program and the NCAA can save face as having come down harder than expected (or warranted) on USC.”
“Those who have been dancing on USC’s grave would have to put the disco ball away.”Uh oh, uncle Festor’s playpen is going flip.
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Sorry, I just can't take anything B/R says with any semblance of credibility...
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
There's a couple of intelligent people writing over there
Don’t know why, tho.
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The issue is that the message of the NCAA's sloppy and vindictive "work" is getting out
Here’s a report on SBB that brings up the same issues. Eventually the majors will have to follow suit.
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One disgusting new detail in the SBB report is that Reggie Bush left Percy Harvin stranded in a hotel room:
Among the numerous calls McNair placed to Bush and the recruit that night, three were to a 619 area code that was not Bush’s number. That number, cited from McNair’s USC phone records, belonged to Lake.Nice job Reggie, you gave not a crap about USC or your teammates you piece of sh*t.
Translation: McNair found out through Harvin that Bush, who was out with Lake that night, was blowing off the top recruit in country. A recruit McNair was personally responsible for.
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Where did Reggie Bush play, I forgot and I just forgot about the Saints too.
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 25, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
of course that doesn’t exactly help McNair’s credibility when saying that he didn’t know who Lake was. If I was McNair, I would have been pretty pissed about the incident, and I would think I would remember it. Again, though, it’s circumstantial.
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True except they got the year wrong
If that call had been placed in 2005 it makes a big difference, in 2006 not so much. Remember the NCAA case is built on McNair knowing Lake back in 2005 and they used that call to prove their case. The other problems is McNair called a number Reggie gave him to use, not a number McNair knew to be belong to Lake.
by ev on Jun 26, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess Petros was right all along.
That Reggie Bush was also a Heisman caliber douchebag.
I generally agree with you but in this case
He’s spot on. USC generally does have smaller recruiting classes – that was the trend toward the end of Carroll’s run.
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by Joey Kaufman on Jun 25, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I notice a picture I put up eariler was removed and I understand, BUT how in the Heck Can Nester put up an article and call USC the Southern Cons--------WHAT IS THAT
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 25, 2010 6:53 PM PDT reply actions
Rhetoric...let it go
he can bash SC like we bash ucla…
we need to be careful of the personal attacks though…
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the King of Corruption, the Houdini of the handout, the Slick Sloganeer. Now that’s rhetoric!
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Notice SB-Nation must made the Ness to take down that post.
So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 28, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
They wouldn't ask him to take it down...
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Are you sayin g he actually saw how bad that made him look, WOW
So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 28, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't see the post but I really doubt they would make him take it down...
what was the name of it if you can remember…
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Southern Cons something too the tune of appealing sanctions
So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 28, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh...who cares
Probably done because it would not have looked good for SBN LA…
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
All this talk about context
The context that the NCAA wants to see those documents in supports their case. With the lack of hard evidence, any attack against the context that supports their narrative is strictly prohibited by the NCAA.
Oh and by the way
I find it funny that a report full of hearsay from a convicted felon is considered comprehensive.
by frak on Jun 25, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
THIS! +1,000,000
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Thing is the NCAA
is not bound by the court of law, there is not innocent until proven guilty. USC and Alabama now share a common bond. You guys can hope for the best through your appeal process and I hope you win. From experience, you will be lucky to get a few schollys back over the next few years. They have ruled and its almost as final as death and taxes. Please don’t take this as hate, its not. I followed the situation more or less to give me closure on the way we were treated. Good luck and hope for the best, Fight on….cause its all you can do at this point.
Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
It wasn't hearsay
It was speculative, cumulative, full of bias, etc., but it was not hearsay.
If you are going to attack something, understand what you are attacking.
either way it is hardly a reliable story...
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
but clearly they were telling the truth about a great deal, and they have corroboration for a great deal of their accusations.
It’s a hard sell to say “well yea they were right about this, this, and this, but not about that” while your coach is denying ever meeting or knowing them despite phone calls and pictures and Reggie Bush is still denying everything.
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Exactly who is "they" and what is your definition of "knowing" someone?
McNair and Lake didn’t “meet,” they happened to be at the same party. The photo was altered. The three one minute calls on October 29, 2005 were due to McNair looking for Bush who was partying with Lake at the time Bush was supposed to be hosting Percy Harvin. Lake did not remember receiving those calls. The three minute call from Lake to McNair on Jan 8, 2006, was after Bush had finished his playing career.
You lose all credibility with your uninformed comments. Go to the original record instead of regurgitating hackneyed predigested versions of the story. Put up or shut up.
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you think they photo-shopped him into the picture? lol. Not having seen the picture, I can’t say it’s not true, but it seems like a stretch.
I don’t see how it matters whether the 3 minute call was after Bush went to the NFL. It still points to McNair knowing Lake and having knowledge of Bush’s ineligibility. You’re still supposed to report improprieties even if the player is gone.
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He's not saying they photoshopped him into the picture
Just that the photo has been altered and they won’t release the original, which is true.
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altered in what way though?
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Actually irrelevant
I guarantee that you could show me a photo of myself at a party a few years ago, posing with people who I’ve never met – or don’t remember meeting. Someone has a camera at a party, people tend to group together and smile. Heck, I was at a bar with a friend last night and met a couple of people who’s names I honestly don’t remember. I doubt I could pull them out of a lineup in fact. Unless this photo showed the two with their arms around each other or engaged in meaningful conversation, it really means nothing.
I have also not seen the picture, but from the description in the USC response, it certainly doesn’t indicate the two knowing each other aside from the fact that they are both in frame. Whether it was photo shopped or not really doesn’t make much different. Although, the fact that the photo given to USC was a .BMP format instead of a .JPG (which is the standard for just about any digital camera) is at the very least quite sloppy – if not somewhat suspicious.
Certainly, the picture could be one piece of an overall set of evidence showing that McNair knew Lake, but all the NCAA provided was the phone calls. Those had a very reasonable explanation, and Lake is on record as completely concocting a story about a conversation between he and Lake that we know never happened.
All that evidence points to the possibility that they knew each other, but it’s quite distressing that the NCAA imposed the sanctions that they did based on such a weak set of evidence.
also since they were partying, Lake was probably drunk off his ass and/or high for those 2005 calls, so I can understand him not remembering them.
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I don't think many will dispute that SC should throw away the 2005 season
its clear that that Bush took benefits then.
What is in dispute is 2004 and precedent.
I don’t think this absolves Mcnair of anything…it only strengthens the perceptions of the NCAA’s dictatorial way. Sooner or later they NCAA will get theirs…and this could be that time. Hard to know yet.
people need to think clearly on this…the issues WRT McNair are significant but only part of the puzzle….Ornstein, Papadakis dinners, etc played a pretty significant role in the sanctions.
I get it that ’bama understands what is going here having lived it themselves…
From what I have read many of you Alabam faithful think we are kidding ourselves that we will succeed, That may be, but we must go through this on our own, no mater how painful it will be, no matter how disappointing the outcome will probably be…and we will be disappointed.
When Alabama went through their issues it was pretty much only Alabama that cared. The landscape is different now. Your case did not get splashed out for all the world to see for four years. Blogs were not as prominent as they are now…Yahoo! sports did not exist.
Nobody cared about Alabama’s issues because it just wasn’t a big deal to those out side of Tuscaloosa or the south in general…in this case everyone is lining up to get their shots in against SC.
The deck is stacked against the USC WRT then NCAA…I DO NOT expect ANY reduction of the sanctions.
I am more intrigued how one school and one coach, who many revile, can take up so much space inside so many peoples heads…it becomes abundantly clear that Kiffin has rattled more than just a few peoples cage…looks like people need to get their tinfoil hats out…
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by Paragon SC on Jun 26, 2010 4:18 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes I follow College FB all the time, but I never knew about Alabama's Sanctions.
I will bet that just about 70% of the US pop. and 20% outside the US know about this. I personally will call and right the Nazi Collective A$$hat Assoc. as much as I can in the next 4 months. Maybe USC should be selling Bumber Stickers about the jerks?
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 26, 2010 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I dont expect the sanctions to be reduced either
Yes the NCAA report is full of holes, and Lake is a less than believable witness, but there were a lot of mistakes with regards to compliance.
Couple that with the change of rules in regards to appeals and we are screwed. The NCAA cracked down on the appeals process after Oklahoma got all of their wins back in the Rhett Bomar incident. We won’t be allowed to include any new evidence in the appeal, we can only tear apart the case that has been presented to us.
Yes, there is a comprehensive case for a modest lack of IC, BUT....
the Lake/McNair/Bush evidence is SALIENT to the sanctions. The NCAA appears to have given the 2 year bowl ban BECAUSE Reggie was deemed ineligible for 2 bowls in which he played.
If USC can prove that Reggie was NOT ineligible for the Orange Bowl, then the punishment deduction used by the NCAA must be reduced to a 1 year bowl ban. If you can show that it was all 2005 AND NOT 2004, then USC should get half the scholarships back too.
I am also dubious as I believe the process is fixed. The NCAA caved to pubic pressure to punish USC, and the NCAA is being judged in this process just as much as USC. So, the NCAA will save face and protect it’s own by not giving USC a fair Appeals hearing regardless of the merits of USC’s case. USC will be forced to seek relief in the courts.
not even that...
From Weber’s Piece…
Then there was the comment of Committee Chair Paul Dee, who said at the Report’s post-release press conference that the decision for a two-year bowl ban was that since the NCAA determined Bush was ineligible for the bowl games he played in after the 2004 and 2005 seasons, well that made it two for USC as well.
“That’s not a standard,” Buckner said. And the fact that Dee said it at the press conference can be used against the Committee, he said. In the Alabama State case, Buckner said he was able to petition the Appeals Committee to submit the press conference tape where the Committee Chair made a similar verbal mistake over the Infractions Committee’s objections.
So USC should consider that, as well.
Legislating from the bench?
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
The most crucial piece of evidence (the phone records) against McNair is factually incorrect. They’ll have to negotiate or this ends up in court.
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I use gmail, but my account is my real name...
I don’t want lunatics like Paul or 102 to know my real name. :-) What if Dorsett looks me up and shows up at my doorstep in BigD begging for a job!
Ha, ok, I’ll post a rarely used business account that I don’t mind getting spammed. Do you have private scoop? Please send it my way!
I would acttually like everyone to send me an email so I have an updated list
I have multiple emails for some of you and I never know which one to send emails to…
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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 26, 2010 12:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you talking about me for Paul
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 26, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure he was talking about PaulV the sailor man er ruin
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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 26, 2010 9:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
well, the difference is bigger than just the role of the new media. Alabama’s issues revolved around a booster paying a coach of a recruit (who didn’t end up amounting to much). USC’s issues involved a heisman trophy winning player, probably one of the most famous college football players of the last 30 years.
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Yah but Shizekoff we didn't pay the player, USC had nothing to do with it all.
And it wasn’t a Booster
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 26, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
He's too dense to see the difference, I'm not wasting my time with him anymore
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yes yes. this has been discussed ad nauseum, but it has nothing to do with the media exposure of the cases, which is what we are discussing in this instance.
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WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 26, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Keep in mind....
…. one of the main points that the NCAA tried to make is that Lake and others were acting as a representative of the university. With that argument, then it is essentially the equivalent of USC making the payment.
In my opinion, they did a pathetic job making that argument, and that is part of what illustrates their lack of impartiality. As you identified, there is a big difference between Reggie taking money from a wannabe agent and taking money from a representative of the university. The NCAA knows that and needed to make that connection to justify the heavy sanctions.
how did they make that connection
I understand how guillory was considered a usc booster…. but lake?
My mistake
You are correct that it was not Lake they were trying to identify as a representative. They tried to represent him as a legitimate agent – when in fact, it was obvious to everyone (expect apparently Lamar Griffen) that he was nothing close to a legitimate agent.
It was “Sports Marketer A” (I forget who that was) who they were trying to make the university representative. The point is still the same though. The NCAA needs that connection to make the unviersity complicit in the wrongdoing as opposed to just being ignorant of it.
So..high profile player, high profile exposure, right?
But being paid by a booster, no matter how little=no big deal?
Thanks for making my point…no blogs or Yahoo etc. and this isn’t as big a deal
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my point is, if the Alabama case had involved a player of similar fame to Bush, that it would have been a much bigger deal in the media, regardless of the existence of blogs and yahoo. There’s no doubt those things were a factor though.
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Wrong
Without the inernet blogs issues don’t go viral. MSM, it might be relevant in the South but for the rest of the nation it would die down rapidly, even with a high profile athlete.
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Ornstein and the Papadakis dinners were minor violations but they’ve been spun into mortal sins.
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Plus that also and Papadakis has been doing that since the 70s WTF why did that take so long to become a problem.
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John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 26, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn't say I agreed that is was major just that it is a part of it....
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It's because..............
WE ARE SC!
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"I've got blisters on my fingers!!!!!!"
My sentiments exactly
Whether or not it was Reggie Bush, my feelings on this matter (what Paragon has written regarding “interest” as it applies to USC) is that it has everything to do with hating on USC.
And. . . . hating on Coach Carroll.
Reggie Bush is just a player that people have just now gotten around to hate. USC and Coach Carroll is what most people in the Pac 10 and throughout the national college football landscape have been happy to hate on. Period.
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Jun 26, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
And above all, hating on Lane Kiffin
Still LOCO after all these years
All hail Augustus Kiffin!
M·AGRIPPA·L·F·COS·TERTIVM·FECIT
Yup!
Can’t believe I forgot that one. It’s just amazing, isn’t it? All this energy devoted to hating and schadenfreude. I can understand one, maybe two posts of hate on any particular topic matter. But to devote your entire days, weeks, and years on this type of shit?
Uh. . . . .LOSERVILLE!
I guess with all this pollution here in LA, we Trojans maintain a healthy diet of tact, decorum, and. . . . . .not becoming major losers. When was the last time any of us went typing away on someone else’s blog regarding their team’s situation(s)?
Exactly.
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Jun 26, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice stuff Bix, and yes I quit going to other teams blogs and commenting awhile back.
Sometimes I get the urge to read but no comment and most of theirs are all about hate.
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 26, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Endless love?
One heckuva tennis match at Wimbledon, eh SoCal? Glad the American got the win, but dang! Talk about E-P-I-C?
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Jun 26, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Im not a lawyer
and correct me if im wrong, but when Lake told the NCAA what he said to McNair and McNairs response in the 2 minute+ phone call, ins’t that hearsay?
hearsay is when a witness testifies that a second party told them about some event that the witness didn’t observe. since lake was a party to the conversation, it’s not hearsay.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
Well it is still a gangsters BS no other way around that
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 26, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Well I still feel the appeal will work and USC will get some rides back maybe 3-4 a year.
I think that will be it and if any player will not come because they will miss a bowl, well that just doesn’t make sense. In that respect I feel those kids are looking for something else, like gifts or money. In college BB the gifts and money are rampant in today’s programs, so is the ncaa going to clean up their biggest money maker or not.
As I said before if some don’t come that is their loss and they must of not have wanted an education, but USC is a great institution and will provide endless connections that is what they are giving up. Most don’t see it that way especially the bRuins but I have lived in so-cal a long time and it has always been known if you go to USC it will pay off in the long run. If you go to other So-Cal colleges you will have to make it on your own, which is fine but I think if you are smart you go with the support.
So Fight On USC followers and Don’t worry WE Will Still Play on Saturdays and Bowls will come later, for WE ARE SC not That other Softball University. Oh and don’t say you now have a baseball team, it’s not Real Baseball unless you use Wooden Bats.
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 26, 2010 7:55 AM PDT reply actions
Oh and if your passionate enough here is the phone #s and address.
The National Collegiate Athletic Association
700 W. Washington Street
P.O. Box 6222
Indianapolis, Indiana 46206-6222
Phone: 317/917-6222
Fax: 317/917-6888
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 26, 2010 8:07 AM PDT reply actions
Oh and here is there E-mail don't forget to drop them a line or just call Lake.
A little bit tried but when you play a match like this you don't feel tried.
John Isner after they asked him how he felt after the match, which he won 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68 in 5th after 3 days.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 26, 2010 8:47 AM PDT reply actions
Lets go Play!
Appeal or not- the sanctions can’t stop us for pounding stanford can they? USC still gets to have fresh roasted Duck on Halloween right?
i hope the Trojans go 12-0 or even 11-1, then we can sit back and watch the media, fans and sponsers choke trying to make whoever wins the BCS title game or the Rose bowl mean something.
How many days, hours, minutes till we play Hawaii?
I'm with you on that one
Can’t wait to August and training camp starts up. We can talk about the actual season!
--Conquest Chronicles , SBNation's USC Trojans blog
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by Joey Kaufman on Jun 26, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
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