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Reggie Bush looks to rehabilitate his image with USC fans

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WOW! You can't make this stuff up!

From Reggie's Twitter stream...

My focus now is to continue to work hard, restore my relationship with USC fans and the university, and to help the Saints REPEAT!

Let me just say this...NOT. HAPPENING!

I was obviously disappointed & disagree w/ the NCAA report that was released! We will fight this thing to end and plan to win the appeal!

We? Who is we? 'SC is on its own Reggie, thanks for playing though...

And then my personal favorite!

There's a lot of untold truth & fabricated lies 2 this matter but God works in mys terious ways & we will all grow stronger from this!

Really? Again who is we?

Well Reggie, we're waiting. Now is as good a time as any to set the record stright.

And when given the chance he still jukes and jibes and doesn't come clean...

Star-divide

 

Bush didn't admit any specific wrongdoing, repeatedly claiming that he wasn't able to get into specific details as he talked for about 10 minutes. He did say that it's his responsibility to deal with now, though, and he admitted that he was devastated that he brought this on his beloved USC.

And what little he does say only rubs salt in the wound...

"For the people who say ... well I've heard people say that I don't really care about this too much and I just brush it off my shoulders. Those people don't know me. Because this thing regarding USC and the NCAA is to me the closest thing to death without dying," Bush said in his opening statement. "Because I have such a great love and respect for the University of (Southern) California, this has been one of the toughest things I've had to deal with in my life. But at the same time whether it's all true or all wrong or whether we're guilty or not guilty, it's still my responsibility and I have to accept that. And I have to deal with it as it is and try to manage it as best as I can. With that, we plan to aid USC as much as possible in the appeal with the NCAA. I'm gonna do everything I can to make it right, to make it better, and that's really all I can do.

I guess Reggie didn't get the message...he is permanently banned from USC. He will help 'SC as much as OJ was out looking for the real killers before finally going to the pokey.

With friends like Reggie...

Look, this is all well and good but the fact is it is too little too late.

Spare me...this all to protect his endorsements. The whole contrition thing is a ruse.

We know that Reggie's step dad was at the root of all of this. I even gave Reggie a pass in the beginning because I knew that no kid could rat out his parents, but a lot of time has passed and USC is on the hook for his parents actions.

This could have been addressed years ago...

Reggie could have stepped up and fell on his sword to protect USC instead of hiding behind some bogus extortion claim. A claim that was never substantiated. All he had to do was tell the truth...no matter how difficult or embarrassing it is or would have been.

I have said numerous times that I really did not care if they took Reggie's Heisman Trophy away. The award lost its luster a long time ago...now I hope they do take it. I hope Reggie gets to feel the same humiliation that many fans feel over last Thursday's announcement on the sanctions. Many of us stood by Reggie throughout all of this but now with all that has come out and with Reggie's continued silence we all see what Reggie does not...that the ice is slowly melting beneath his feet.

He has lost all of the good will and benefit of the doubt that many 'SC fans bestowed on him over the past 4 years.

Erase him from the record book, take away all his conference and national awards, because we really don't know when he was eligible, un-retire the jersey and let's move on.

The healing process for 'SC fans will be a long and arduous road. These sanctions are a modern day death penalty. USC will not be a national power for quite sometime, you're dreaming if you think anything different. The deck is stacked against us...all fallout of Reggie's family's greed.

I realize to some that this will not be a popular stance to take, but many if not all of us hold the institution in a much higher regard than what the Bush clan does...

Players come and go...the institution will always remain.

Reggie's words ring hollow to me.

I wish no ill will on anyone so, I wish him well, a lot more that he obviously wishes on SC. I hope he has great career. Because outside of that his college career is a distant memory. Reggie isn't kidding anyone...he doesn't care about 'SC and its loyal fan base otherwise he would have stood up and and taken his medicine like a man.

There is a reason why Reggie's disassociation from USC is permanent...even if you forgive you will never forget.

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I think he is correct in that there are a lot of fabricated lies in all this, but they are lies that implicate other probably innocent people. All parties agree that Reggie and his parents are guilty. If he has information to the contrary, tell us what that is and get some of those people off the hook.

Reggie is actually in a position to vinidcate people like Todd McNair and others who have been implicated. If he would come clean and admit his guilt then it would make his testimony more credible when he makes statements about, for example, McNair not knowing Lake. Instead, he makes vague public statements that no one takes seriously, refuses to answer questions based on lawyers advice, and fails to provide requested information to the investigation committee. That’s not doing “verything I can to make it right”.

The fact is that a whole host of other people have suffered because of Reggie, and he has to do a hell of a lot more than make pathetic statements like this to come anywhere close to atoning for it.

I expect to see one of the giant jerseys at the paristyle end of the Coliseum missing this year.

by bwren on Jun 16, 2010 4:23 PM PDT reply actions  

A fair point: if Bush can exonerate McNair, he should. That would be the decent thing to do. Maybe he can’t, but how the hell would I know one way or the other?

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Jun 16, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

How damn insulting!

Pardon me for continuing to vent here, but what the hell is this comment “we will all grow stronger from this!”. No, asshole! WE didn’t do anything. WE didn’t risk the well being of people around us for short term personal gain. WE don’t make vague statements instead of just fessing up and vinidicating others who have been harmed by our lies. WE live in the real world where we don’t make a lifetime worth of money in a single year. WE would be fired from our jobs and probably blackballed from our professions for pulling the kind of crap you pulled.

So, don’t speak for us Reggie. WE aren’t going to be any stronger from all this. Maybe YOU and your family will one day find the strength to tell the truth and take responsibility for the harm that your personal greed has caused. Until then, the University that you completely screwed will do its best to restore its reputation that YOU tarnished. Until YOU are ready to tell the truth, just shut up, stay the hell away from our university, and stop acting like we’re all in this together. WE are in this together. But at this point in time, WE doesn’t include YOU.

by bwren on Jun 16, 2010 4:36 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Amen indeed!
Maybe YOU and your family will one day find the strength to tell the truth and take responsibility for the harm that your personal greed has caused. Until then, the University that you completely screwed will do its best to restore its reputation that YOU tarnished.

And frankly, we would prefer to do it alone

Still LOCO after all these years

All hail Augustus Kiffin!
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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 16, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Reggie just wants to keep the endorsement checks rollin in.

by WE ARE SC on Jun 16, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Go kiss a Kardashian.

by uscdude on Jun 16, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth...

I really haven’t said much, because although a lifelong fan of USC, since Coach McKay, I am not an alumni, which is what many here seem to be.

But I will not be able to just shrug off the damage that Reggie Bush did to the university, and to ever view him as a simple pawn in all of this. That he may have been pulled in by unscrupulous douchebags is entirely believable, but to have continued the charade as long as he has, when there have been opportunities to actually address issues, is what rankles.

What it would have cost is some pride (a price that we all pay at some point), some public perception (again common, although not to the same extent; most of us are not nationally known), but the most important, to him IMO, was the hit it would have dealt to his wallet, in the form of endorsements. THAT is the cardinal (pun intended) sin: that the amount of money he’s already made, more than most people will ever see in their lifetimes, is still not enough, and he will continue to let the university twist in the wind so as not to lose any more. Forget the fact that coming clean will help in the long run, that he will be able to help USC in the only way left to him (indirectly), that truth is more important than wealth (Mark 8:36), and to actually put proof to HIS claim that he “was raised well, (he) was raised to do the right thing”.

I’m insulted by his words and actions, and I don’t see that changing…

Failure builds character; success reveals it

by signcut on Jun 16, 2010 4:55 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I am not an alum either...makes no difference

Welcome!!

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on Jun 16, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Rec'd!

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on Jun 16, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disagree on one point

Leave the jersey retired. #5 is permanently associated with Bush, for better or for worse.

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by RabbitSC on Jun 16, 2010 4:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm good with that

I would like to see the jersey missing from the Coliseum this year though. Send a clear message to the world that our integrity is more important than some football wins.

by bwren on Jun 16, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was actually thinking the same thing...decided not put it in the piece

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by Paragon SC on Jun 16, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Counter Point :)

1) I still see Reggie as a victim exploited by adults who should have known better. I did some very stupid things when I was 20 yrs old. And, Reggie has no real business experience, he is just taking the advice of his lawyers and handlers. Lawyers tend to think that they have all the answers (no offense to my friends here), and Reggie just doesn’t have the business experience to go against his counsel’s advice.

“"The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." – Gandhi

2) Let’s not forget that most of us believe that the NCAA overreached and that the sanctions are unfair. Reggie is not responsible for the 2 yrs and 30 scholies. That primarily falls on the NCAA’s witch hunt strategy. And, let’s not forget Mayo and Guillory, or the women’s tennis player, or the Ornstein internship. Reggie is not the only one who f*cked up. I blame Garrett and lax compliance more than I blame Reggie. But, I blame the NCAA the most. They are the enemy here, not Reggie.

3) I also disagree that USC will not compete for championships. We will field one of the most talented teams in the nation in 2010. Although thin in a few spots, we still have championship talent and recruiting has sustained at that level thus far. And, I am confident that our coaching is championship caliber.

The sun will come out tomorrow…..

by DFWTrojan on Jun 16, 2010 6:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Some respectful counters to your counterpoints

1) He’s not 20 anymore. I also did stupid things at 20, and I think even by 25 I would have been man enough to take responsibility for them. Even if I didn’t want to, I wouldn’t make a complete fool of myself by making vague statements when the entire world knew damn well I was guilty.

2) No question they did, but I would feel the same way about Reggie regardless of the level of sanctions. He cheated – plain and simple. I also have no sympathy for someone who robs a liquor store and they never intended to kill the clerk but then have the gun accidentally fire. When you lie and cheat, you assume responsibility for the direct and the indirect consequences of your actions.

3) I agree with this one. I’m probably naive, but I just can’t see how those sanctions won’t get reduced. The NCAA did a horrendous job in their report. The mere fact that USC was barred from the Lake interview is reason enough all by itself to reduce the penalties.

by bwren on Jun 16, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Regarding 3)

A few people were thinking the NCAA would come down really hard and then reduce it on appeal. It’s awfully optimistic but it seems like they left some doors open for that.

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by RabbitSC on Jun 16, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

The smug tone of the report makes one believe (if any doors were left open) it wasn’t on purpose.

Still LOCO after all these years

All hail Augustus Kiffin!
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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 16, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like your #2 to my #2

“you assume responsibility for the direct and indirect consequences…”

by DFWTrojan on Jun 16, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The picture

has a weird watermark in it. What is that?

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by Bruins102NCAA on Jun 16, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure

But you won’t like the actual translation.

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by Bruins102NCAA on Jun 16, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the language is fit for Paragon, Joey and SBN

then fill us in! I’m a Catholic school boy and I can’t resist that Latin. Viam sapientiae monstrabo tibi. So sayeth Larry Scott.

by uscdude on Jun 16, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Catholic School Boy Myself

But be advised, you won’t like it.

EGO TROIORUM MALLEUS SUM = (literally) “I of Trojans hammer am”

I am the hammer of the Trojans.

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by Bruins102NCAA on Jun 16, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

Just a note on this. It’s more like “hammerer.”

The King of England, Edward I, also known as “longshanks” and from the movie Braveheart has on his tomb the Latin inscription: “Edwardus Primus Scottorum Malleus hic est” or “Here is Edward the First, Hammer of the Scots”

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by Bruins102NCAA on Jun 16, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

literally yes, I’m using a modern translation. Suit yourself, and dream on.

Still LOCO after all these years

All hail Augustus Kiffin!
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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 16, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Booooooooooooo!

Edward Longhshanks boooooooooooooooo!

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Jun 17, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

meh, 102 fancies himself “the hammer of Troy.” Yeah, him and what army?

Still LOCO after all these years

All hail Augustus Kiffin!
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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 16, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose

My army of Myrmidons.

I should really watch what I say being that Marcus Agrippa, the hero of Actium, might disapprove.

Touche regarding Utah

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by Bruins102NCAA on Jun 16, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ever humble Agrippa doesn’t accept such laurels,
he would though find you amusing
but disapprove of your “nation”

Still LOCO after all these years

All hail Augustus Kiffin!
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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 17, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Usually your army of Myrmidons and Argives

ends up crying on national TV in the locker room after the game.

by frak on Jun 17, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Myrmidons, also known as the “ant people.”
Seems appropriate.

Still LOCO after all these years

All hail Augustus Kiffin!
M·AGRIPPA·L·F·COS·TERTIVM·FECIT

by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 17, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

oooh...

the ruins should start a bit smaller, like maybe “hammering” mighty Utah first.

Still LOCO after all these years

All hail Augustus Kiffin!
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by M. AGRIPPA on Jun 16, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Teletubbies

Put a baby face inside the sun and it’s the Teletubbies show closing shot. Or so I’ve been told. By Bruin alumni.

by uscdude on Jun 16, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry but I really don't care what Bush or anyone else says or does, for me I say move on.

I have my attitude of the ncaa since 1975, they sucked then and do now. It will never change until the colleges get together and change their own governing organization, By leaving out Professors and administrators for one thing.

Oh and 102 I am shaking in my boots, and please cool it with the earth quakes lately.

Why are there so many Scumbag Fans?

by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 17, 2010 6:53 AM PDT reply actions  

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