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Slick Rick is trying to stir the pot again

Interesting comment from Skippy in Dennis Dodd's latest....whatever you want to call it.

[...] Neuheisel quickly got in line, accusing his rival of recruiting shenanigans. He is not the first, considering Kiffin piled up a half-dozen secondary violations at Tennessee.

"I know there were a number of kids that had opportunities because there were limousines sent to their homes by SC to come visit," Neuheisel said. "A number of kids that we ended up signing were on the phone saying, 'I don't want to get in this car. Tell the driver to leave.'"

That would be another juicy, controversial addition to Kiffin's NCAA resume if they, in fact, were limos. Neuheisel quickly corrected himself saying the vehicles were "town cars," which are allowed by the NCAA.

Kiffin's on-the-record response? "Tradition in the distant past does not help your recruiting. Because of what's happened in the last nine years at USC, it's refreshing to concentrate on coaching and recruiting and not have to gather outside attention."

I could just imagine his off the record response.

What makes this laughable is obvious, lets see...half a dozen secondary violations vs. a letter of censure from the NCAA for 50 plus recruiting violations. I guess I should stay consistent...he should know, right? That Slick Rick would try to call out Kiffin by throwing out that comment and then quickly correcting it is an old lawyer trick.

The guy just can't get USC out of his head. Pete Carroll is right...the guy is a sham, he is wasting the talents of one of the greatest OC's in CFB history on a gimmicky offense.

Dodd also seems to forget that Kiffin was a head coach in the NFL before he was one in college. Skippy was an also ran in Baltimore...he basically carried Billick's clipboard. With JaMarcus Russell pretty much a failure in Oakland it looks like Kiffin was right and that senile old fool Al Davis was dead wrong on Russell.

I chuckled at this quote from earlier in the article...

"I don't think there is a program in the country that can go from a major school to an elite school faster than UCLA because of all the things we have," Neuheisel said.

Yeah...let me know when you actually arrive at that destination...

You'll just be arriving trying to park your car as we are paying for the check.

Skippy has to figure it out THIS year so that he can finally turn it around next year. The schedule and the O line he has in front of him will make that very difficult. If he doesn't doesn't contend for a Pac-10 title in 2011 he is toast...by then all the players on the roster will be his and we have seen how he has fared in the past when its just his kids on the roster...even if he beats SC just once that still might not be enough to save him if he doesn't contend for the conference title.

Instead of worrying about Kiffin, Skippy should worry about protecting his quarterback...

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This was always the risk of hiring Kiffin – that the various shenanigans in Tennessee and his prior tenure at USC would embolden other conference programs to start whispering campaigns and use innuendo to work on recruits.

And yet, only Neuheisel keeps banging on about it in the press. Either he knows something – which I doubt – or he’s being loud to try and distract from what’s going on with his program. At least someone’s drilled Kiffin to stay on message so he doesn’t start arguing with a five year old.

I’ll agree with this much – there is no reason that UCLA couldn’t, in theory, accelerate their results, if you look at their recruiting base. They’ve been getting some decent players over the last few years. But I think that the issue is on the sideline. Neuheisel’s good fortune is that Kiffin is an unknown quantity in terms of results.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Apr 30, 2010 7:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Who would you rather have coaching your offense and quarterbacks

Rick Neuheisel or Norm Chow.

Norm has often not towed the company line in the press last year, which at the very least means his ideas are passed over or overruled entirely. I seriously doubt that Norm thinks the Pistol is a good idea.

What Rick is doing is exactly what Kiffin was doing at Tennessee. It just might come back in the form of another blowout score without mercy if he keeps it up. Take note ucla fans. This is why USC throws a bomb with less than a minute to go. This is the reason….. Rick’s mouth.

On another note. The SEC came down on Kiffin for his statements about Urban Meyer. Maybe Kiffin should call for a retraction.

by frak on Apr 30, 2010 7:42 AM PDT reply actions  

My Favorite Quote

“Until you do it on the field,” Neuheisel said, “it’s just talk.”

I guess Rick is a winner in the talking game. Maybe we can get him a trophy for “Best Blowhard.”

by frak on Apr 30, 2010 7:57 AM PDT reply actions  

so RIck

even admits its just TALK, until its backed up on the FIELD and you still blow this article out of proportion? he was asked questions by a reporter and answered them, the reporter has an angle which is to put one against the other. Get over it. i find funny that I could read about UCLA on your site just as much on BN, and vice versa. its just funny… and fun!

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by g.granillo on Apr 30, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well

I guess you can say that when Neu brings up USC, we will respond. Yeah I think he’s a blowhard. Yes I think its designed for PR. What am I supposed to do? Just sit back and say nothing. There’s ridiculing to do.

by frak on Apr 30, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

no

i love friendly banter, not the name calling like from your friend up there but i love everything about football. i try not to take things personal i know your as passionate about your program as i am about mine, so no i love to talk about it. i say negative things about kiff on BN when it comes up, but i wont intentionally do it here, just give my opinion thats it.

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by g.granillo on Apr 30, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dont care if you talk crap about Kiffin

just make sure you can back up what you say.

by frak on Apr 30, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

and

then more ridiculint to do!

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by gnossos on Apr 30, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rick keeps walking farther out on the plank

With several major areas of apparent deficiency on his squad, a tough schedule, a losing record, and two double digit blowout losses to USC, Rick is on the hot seat. What happens when his team regresses this season and even the most diehard Bruin fans accept his inferior 3 yr record vs Dorrell’s?

No bowl game in 2010, another blowout loss to USC, a losing record, a 3 year record worse than Dorrell’s? Skippy, you are fast becoming a major embarrassment to your university. The heat is on, Legal Weasel.

by DFWTrojan on Apr 30, 2010 9:19 AM PDT reply actions  

well we shall see

but as a Bruin i see improvement, i definitly don’t see everything you just said but your entitled to you opinion, and until i see your coach do something i’ll question the hire as well. Admit it SC fans are a little nervous about having Kiffen as your coach, especailly with a losing record. I mean if i’m to believe Rick is on the hot seat then there’s some definite nervousness out there.

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by g.granillo on Apr 30, 2010 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

I've never been this confident about a season since the 2004-05 seasons

Kiffin is the best thing to happen to USC football since we hired PC. It’s the outsiders like you who are dubious of Kiffin. USC insiders love him and will relish his national coming out party this fall.

by DFWTrojan on Apr 30, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

hmmmm

well it seems to me like it should be a great football season, i’ll give Kiffen this he seems to be doing things different than Pete did things. For good reason it seems according to some articles(dicipline,cleaning locker rooms, etc).

G.Granillo- Bruin for life!!!!
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by g.granillo on Apr 30, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will admit the new coaching situation makes me

feel a little out of sorts. Yes I don’t know how Kiffin is going to do. I feel very comfortable having Monte Kiffin running the defense. I feel very comfortable having Lane Kiffin running the offense. If you actually ask me what I am the most concerned about in regards to USC’s football team, my answer would be Matt Barkley, and to a lesser extent, the defense in general.

There is a difference being nervous about a coach in his first year, and a coach in his third year. I see improvement in recruiting at ucla, but not much else. Neuheisel is a better face for the program than Dorrell, but a chair would have more personality than Dorrell, so anything really is an improvement. I don’t think that Neuheisel will win more games than Dorrell in 5 years, and Dorrell had more to overcome with USC at its peak, and only 2 of 5 seasons without a QB getting knocked out.

by frak on Apr 30, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

UCLA Recruiting Improvements a Myth?

Don’t have time to research it now, but I did read a good blog on this at LOI time. The Bruins have actually been ranked with a top 15 clas and top 3 PacX class in 5 of the last 6 seasons, or something like that. The fact is that their recruiting really hasn’t improved, Neuweasel just spins it better than predecessors. UCLA has consistently gotten good players out of SoCal, because let’s be honest, USC has been very tight with scholarships, especially in SoCal.

Anyone remember that UCLA recruiting analysis, on Rivals, I think.

by DFWTrojan on Apr 30, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

well put

i disagree with you on Neu coaching ability, i’ve been at practicesand he has all the right people in place to be a competitive program (much like kiff, and his dad) Chow and Bullough are great pieces to the puzzle. But yes you are right its different in year 1 than year 3.

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by g.granillo on Apr 30, 2010 10:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Laughable...

Rick’s record actually got worse as he went on at UW and CU…

Sure Chow has a nice track record but its hard for the QB to operate when he is running for his life.

Ricks a loudmouth and he still hasn’t backed up on the field…

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by Paragon SC on Apr 30, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, two things stood out for me in all this:

1.

Tradition in the distant past does not help your recruiting. Because of what’s happened in the last nine years at USC, it’s refreshing to concentrate on coaching and recruiting and not have to gather outside attention

Ouch. Seriously, ouch. I mean it. OUCH!

2.

I don’t think there is a program in the country that can go from a major school to an elite school faster than UCLA because of all the things we have

So, how fast is fast? Ucla has been down for most of the ‘00s and unless they go at least 11-2 next year that will be three years under Newhayzel. That doesn’t seem fast to me.

Careful, man. There's a beverage here!

by SoCal Oski on Apr 30, 2010 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

granillo, Kansas State, Stanford, Houston, Texas. Your first four games, your first four losses. It won’t matter whether nueweasel uses a pistol or cannon.

Oski…11-2 – UCLA in the same sentence is an oxymoron.

by alfa1 on Apr 30, 2010 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

we shall see

It’s a tough schedule, but they’re all winnable games. Not likely but I think 0-4 is a stretch. But hey what do I know (sarcasm). we should lose every game if I listened to you guys.

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by g.granillo on Apr 30, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

UCLA v Texas in Austin is not a winnable game

When I try to step back and be objective I see 0-4 or 1-3 regardless. On paper, UCLA shouldn’t win any of those games. In reality they might squeak out a win against Kansas State, but they’ve got to do it on the road. You don’t beat Houston without a drastically improved passing game, and where have we seen any signs that that might happen? Who’s your QB now? Where are your top WRs? I admit you have a shot against Stanford because they get off to slow starts, but with Andrew Luck getting older you’ll have to outscore them, and it’s the same story.

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by RabbitSC on Apr 30, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

are you an expert on UCLA

it doesn’t sound like it
QB- Prince(young but much improved) i wouldn’t waste your time trying to point to articles about the spring game. I was at the game and the fac that if someone was within 2 yds from him messed with his rhythm. Still at the end of the SPRING game he settled in. All through out spring he’s improved but hey i like being an underdog.
WR- Rosario, Embree, Smith, all are solid WR’s especially with another year under there belt.
Texas will be tough, along with all the others, but EVERY single game is winnable on any given saturday. remember that. I mean if you were going to knock on UCLA at least mention the line thats where success is won and lost.

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by g.granillo on Apr 30, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

In my opinion

ucla’s success depends on one thing….. The running game. The running game that Neuheisel has had to deal with has been truely atrocious. They have to double their rushing yards if they want to have a shot on improving on their 7-5 record from 2009.

by frak on Apr 30, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

and i think they will do that. but unfortunetly it was 7-6 . thanks for the bone though frak. All i know is that squads on both sides are working they’re tails off, so it should be a fun season.

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by g.granillo on Apr 30, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will watch your bruins with interest

They have a monster of a schedule this season.

by frak on Apr 30, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

ya they do!

let me know how knight does WRT coaching.

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by g.granillo on Apr 30, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know who your players are

I was speaking rhetorically; I’m saying that you lack star players at skill positions. There’s no one who can step up and make plays. I’ve yet to see any of the big recruits develop, minus a few players you lost this year. What has Randall Carroll done besides get in trouble for denigrating his coach in public, for instance?

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by RabbitSC on Apr 30, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like he is ineligible for this weekends track meet

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by Paragon SC on Apr 30, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

ya but

 Think you know as well as I do its how you respond , I think Carroll will make sure it doesn’t happen again . I mean look at your guy Stan , he was ineligible at one time he seems to be doing pretty well now. I’m saying we don’t need star players, just guys who show up and work hard everyday not star pre Madonnas.

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by g.granillo on May 1, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC this is not RC's first issue with eligibility...I could be wrong though

As for Stan…there is a lot less drama with Stan than there is w/RC

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by Paragon SC on May 2, 2010 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

1-3, best case scenario

Luck is just too good, and he has great RBs to replace Gerhart. Texas will smoke the Bruins by 40 with the great Garrett Gilbert. I visited Manhattan, KS to watch the USC/KSU loss in Mike Williams frosh year……2000? Manhattan is a brutal place to play for visitors, and KSU is tough under Bill Snyder. UCLA loss. I actually think they have a shot against Houston, but it’s a toss-up.

by DFWTrojan on Apr 30, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO PROFANITY PLEASE!!

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by Paragon SC on Apr 30, 2010 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank you

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by g.granillo on Apr 30, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

waayy off topic

but how is Sammy Knight doing as a coach? I went to the same Highschool as him and Darryl and Ryan. I hope he turns out to be a good one for ya, he’s a great player and even better person.

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by g.granillo on Apr 30, 2010 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't know much

But it is nice to see Smart Bomb, and Keary Colbert out there on the sidelines. Sammy Knight was a great player.

by frak on Apr 30, 2010 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

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