Apparently, The Daily Bruin Supports Unethical Journalism
Editor's Note: After contacting Matt Stevens and the Daily Bruin, they have denied the comments made by Geragosian regarding the integrity of the article. So as of right now, it appears as if this incident is merely a "he said, she said" situation.
A few weeks ago, I was particularly critical of an editorial featured in the Daily Bruin, "Trojans Should be Ashamed of their Athletics," where Matt Stevens, the author of the piece, suggests that USC students, alumni, and everyday fans, should all share in a sense of humiliation regarding the dishonorable actions taken by the ‘SC athletic department. For reasons unknown, Stevens does his best to portray the Trojan Family as a group that is embarrassed by its affiliation with the university and its athletic department. To further advance his viewpoint, he uses the perspective of a USC student:
To get some perspective, I called a good high school friend of mine, a guy named Von Geragosian who is the most die-hard Trojan fan I know and goes to USC.
In talking to Geragosian, I wanted to get a sense of the deep shame he most certainly must feel as a student watching his athletic department make all these deeply unethical choices - staining his school.
The problem here lies in the fact that Geragosian, a 4th generation Trojan, was told by Stevens that he would not be quoted in the article, and further, he was also inaccurately portrayed as someone who felt guilty about his association with USC. Instead of simply quoting Geragosian, Stevens attempts to frame his comments in order to support his own argument. For example, Stevens remarks that Geragosian "must" feel some shame regarding his allegiance to the Trojans instead of letting Geragosian's comments speak for themselves:
Obviously UCLA showed its true colors by writing this article. When my high school friend Matt Stevens called me on the phone for a brief conversation of what I thought about USC athletics, he ensured me that he would never use my name in the article. That's strike 1 against UCLA. He also ensured me that he had no intention on bashing USC, but using facts about what "Trojans" thought about the direction of their athletic department. That's strike 2. And for strike 3, is his entire article. Stevens pathetically tries to find any way to bash USC athletics. Sure, he says that he was "out of ammo, defeated by calm logic". Just the fact that he feels the need to publish this garbage is pretty sad. What kind of title is that for an article..."Trojans should feel ashamed of their athletics". What a joke. This clearly shows the jealously UCLA has towards USC, trying to find anything negative to sooth the pain of this last decade.
So do I feel ashamed to be a Trojan...NOT AT ALL. Do I feel like I should apologize for our football team's dominance this last decade...NOPE. UCLA will always beUCLA. The "other" football team in Los Angeles.
Remember, you're a bruin for 4 years...You're a Trojan for life.
Fight On!
Whether you agree with Stevens's premise to begin with is entirely obsolete in this case. The problem is not with what Stevens said, but with the manner in which he constructed his argument. To quote a source without previously informing him that his comments will be featured is incredibly unethical in nearly all journalism circles. Essentially every college newspaper and journalism school in this country emphasize the importance of this very concept. You must inform your sources that they will be quoted. It's as simple as that.
Therefore, the fact that a leading sports columnist at one of the preeminent universities in the nation could get away with such a blatant, unethical "mishap" is a complete joke. Are there not "fact checkers" or an editorial board to review all submitted work? Do they not look over articles such as this one that is not only factually incorrect, but also unethically constructed? In a way, it's particularly intriguing that Stevens's failure to administer to this custom comes in an article in which he actually criticizes USC for unethical actions. Maybe, it's time to start looking in the mirror.
In the end, Stevens's behavior reflects badly upon a school like UCLA, which continues to boast a solid academic reputation. It takes away from all the positives that it contributes to the academic and journalistic communities by drawing attention in a negative light. It's silly to blatantly criticize the pedigree of a place like UCLA, which certainly deserves much of the respect it garners, but in terms of the Daily Bruin's decision to publish an article that was unprofessionally written, there is no doubt that the school is in the wrong and should most certainly issue some form of an apology to Geragosian and the rest of the Trojan Family.
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Tell him when you see him Joey not hold his breath, those punks over at westwood HS will never own up.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 2, 2010 6:38 PM PST reply actions
The DB isn’t written by the school, I’m not even sure they have editorial control.
Seems like your beef should be with the DB & the writer & the editor
Not that I don't believe you but
UCLA has no control of the DB? Wow. I wonder if it’s that way at USC or anywhere else. Just doesn’t seem right if you know what I mean. That said, Stevens is a joke. Anyone who listens to him knows what kind of a homer he is, it’s way over the top. I understand it’s part of his job, but he takes it to the extreme. To know what kind of mental midget he is, just know that Petros punks him on the radio repeatedly.
by ev on Mar 2, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
eh, i don't read DB
but usually schools tend to let their school newspapers be unless there’s something really wrong going on. Looked at the DB website, there aren’t any university advisors or mentors listed. Eh, I could be wrong.
I don't think they are very supervised
I know when I was looking for journalism schools, UCLA didn’t have one. I have a feeling that because of the pack of a department to supervise the paper, it is probably not faculty driven. When I looked into schools like Cal Poly and USC in particular, the Daily Trojan had faculty supervision looking over the articles.
by eaglezuke on Mar 2, 2010 9:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well that is understandable since nestor and the greek goddess's went there
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by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 2, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
For the record
This is a different Matt Stevens, not the one who played football for the Bruins back in the day.
--Conquest Chronicles, SBNation's USC Trojans blog
To be fair
I thought it was that Matt Stevens too. I assumed that’s why it was a big deal.
Understood
I think it’s still important nonetheless.
--Conquest Chronicles, SBNation's USC Trojans blog
But maybe it is his kid or a relative
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by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 2, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry I thought it was the radio Matt
That fool is a grade a tool. It’s just some regular tool instead.
by ev on Mar 2, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
An independent student newspaper isn’t such an odd thing. The Daily Cal has been completely free from UC control since 1971, and had semi-autonomy from a while before that.
The paper also isn’t officially affiliated with the School of Journalism, however there are more than a few unofficial ties.
That being said, if the claims in this post are true, the DB in general (and Stevens in particular) screwed the pooch with this story in several ways
Whose Axe?
OUR AXE!
I had a friend get fired from the Daily Trojan for something less offensive than this
[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]
Craziness!
Their school motto should be changed. It should actually read: “Ucla! The place where the shit makes ITSELF up!”
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
I don't know whether to be angry at the article
or sad that a guy would risk and probably ruin a friendship over a freaking college newspaper article.
Drinking so much that you forget your name is like trying to cure cancer, it might not be possible, but you should never stop trying.
I doubt Stevens cares that much about the friendship
No real friend would use another like that. Clearly he has Trojan envy issues.
by ev on Mar 2, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
Yep a total creep
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by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 2, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
No you are probably right,
I just don’t remember it being like that way back when, but then I didn’t pay that much attention to it either.
Daily trojan
I don’t know if I’ve ever read an article focusing on UCLA in the DT, unless a game is coming up against them
My initial reaction to the current uptick in Trojan Envy Syndrome
was anger. At this point, it is so sad, pathetic, and persistent that I only feel an amplified sense of pride. Little brother envies me and wants to be like me in the very worst way imaginable. Their obsession is a huge compliment!!!
Hypercritical behavior is a symptom of an inferiority complex. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more envious, inferior group in my life than the sad Bruin faithful.
My Feelings About U¢LA

From the World Health Organization
Los Angeles: Trojan Envy Syndrome at epic proportions at Westwood Tech, no antidote in sight reports the WHO. Disease is life long and seriously debilitating leading to a constant feeling of an also ran.
Yah there is this person on the Registers blog that is totally like Matt Steven's these people are such Losers.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 2, 2010 8:39 PM PST reply actions
Way to call him out Joey
I’m not holding my breath for a correction of facts or apology though.
University newspapers aren't 'supervised.'
There is no one looking over these kids’ shoulders on a day-to-day basis making sure they do good.
BUT, when they screw up, i.e. a writer is intentionally libelous, they do have to answer to the school. This isn’t like that, but it is a serious breach of ethics. It would be in VERY VERY VERY poor taste for the Editor to not issue an apology and at least have some harsh words for Stevens.
Joey, I’m sure you’re 10 steps ahead of us, but if no one has contacted the DB editor on this it would be a good thing to do.
Hey Bruin 102 you are a fool, and please call timeout. Then duck Bombs away du-fuss!
LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.
by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 2, 2010 11:44 PM PST reply actions
I doubt ucla pays much attention to the DB
This guy is obviously spinning his story the way he wants to spin it. If he is trying to get a job with the Enquirer, then hes doing a great job. Hell the Enquirer probably still makes money, so tabloid garbage might be a good career move.
I said it before, and I will say it again. The job of a reporter is not to report the truth, its to create controversy. Everyone does it. Simers and Plaschke are two examples of reporters who put their own interesting spin on a story. This guy couldn’t be more wrong. The only people who think USC should be ashamed aren’t USC students, or alums. I have never, or will ever be ashamed of being a Trojan, and I am more critical of my school than most USC alums are. I have seen some pretty crappy stuff happen at USC, but its my school, and I’m proud to have gone there.
Glass houses ucla. I know of a current ucla player who’s family tried to shake down a ucla booster for cash. You guys may think you don’t have problems or potential Bush-like scandals at your school, but you do. They just aren’t reported.
Its also funny that this Matt Stevens didn’t take a look at former ucla QB Matt Stevens questionable sportsmanship when he ran up the score on USC in 1986. If Carroll is a jerk for throwing a TD on Neuheisel, then Stevens is an equally big twit for his TD throw.
I know of a current ucla player who’s family tried to shake down a ucla booster for cash.
Oh, come on! That sort of stuff only happens at big-time football programs.
Whose Axe?
OUR AXE!
by SoCal Oski on Mar 3, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well Oski Some ucla players think they went to a big time program, look they play in the Rose Bowl.
The only thing is they haven’t played there in January for at least 12+ years, I bet the player was Brian Price.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 3, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Not buying that one frak re the '86 USC-UCLA game w/Matt Stevens
I was at that game-UCLA was up 24-0 late in the 2nd quarter and went for the bomb on the last play of the first half-Karl Dorrell(!) caught the TD pass to put UCLA up 31-0 at the half. Final score was only 45-25 as UCLA pretty much ran the ball most of the 2nd half. I don’t think a game at 24-0 in the first half is a big enough lead, especially in the first half, that good sportsmanship dictates a team stop throwing. There have been bigger leads than that that have evaporated in the 2nd half of games in college football. I don’t think that tossing a Hail Mary at the end of the first half qualifies as running up the score.
So you're saying that the play that was dubbed
“Hail Mary, and in your face” was not running up the score? Dude I was at that game too. ucla had that game firmly in hand, and didn’t take a knee. Did that play bother me? Not really. Should Pete’s touchdown bother ucla? Not really. Neu called a timeout, so all is fair. This guy complaining about this years contest is just plain stupid.
I’m just pointing out hypocrisy when I see it. All I am saying is that ucla has done similar things throughout the years. Go ahead and score as many touchdowns as you guys can. You can bet you aren’t going to get mercy from any USC team while Neuheisel is your coach. He asked for that kind of call when he talked all of his trash all summer long. He got what he asked for, and for that I am not ashamed one bit. This Stevens guy should be ashamed for being such a fantastic whiner.
All due respect DJ. I don’t agree with Steven’s article on the Timeout Touchdown 2009 being cause for shame.
The funny thing is was the look on Ricks face, he looked as if he was constipated for 6 months. Oh and his trash talking, those that do are very insecure individuals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Czl-XhQxXk
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by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 4, 2010 5:29 AM PST up reply actions
A Hail Mary at the end of the first half
with a 24-0 lead is not running it up. Period. If you need further “proof” that UCLA wasn’t running it up, we scored only two additional TD in the 2nd half while USC scored 25 points.
Do you really believe that chucking it deep at the end of the 1st half with a 3-TD lead qualifies as “running it up?” If so, I can only wonder at your sensibilities.
As for the “shame” of being a Trojan, that article is f***** stupid. You guys have some cause for embarrassment sometimes, but so do we (hello, handicapped parking?) and every university and the sports program across the country has embarrassing chapters. But shame? That’s just stooopid, but hardly unusual for the Daily Bruin and its band of PC idiots.
Actually I dont
But I don’t believe that its running it up when you toss a TD after attempting to run out the clock either.
Total heads-up play!
I wasn’t at the ’86 game, at all. But what you described is pretty badass. Even if Ucla surprised the USC D on that last play, or maybe USC schemed for it and had great coverage downfield and in the end zone? The fact of the matter is, that football was caught. And for it to be Karl Dorrell? Bananas!
All USC had to do was stop the play. They didn’t. But if they did, they (USC) would have been able to jaw at the Ucla players and call ’em bad names and question their manhood or whatnot? Would have? Could have? (bummer days)
The fact that both the ’86 game and ’09 game entertained “end of half/regulation” issues, makes it not dissimilar, if not intriguing.
The ‘09 Bruins knew it was the last play, so did the Trojans. If the Bruins would have stopped USC from scoring, they TOO could have scandalized the Trojan name and so on and so forth, but THEY DIDN’T. Stop the play, no intrigue. Choke on the play, you got nothing coming. You’re not allowed to name call.
Yet we find ourselves arguing over “shame”?
That’s it! You Bruins are mental. (not you, ucladj. but maybe the person sitting to the left of you, or to your right?)
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Mar 4, 2010 6:12 AM PST up reply actions
This might prompt me to write up something about the rivalry.
Something stinks about it lately. No me gusta.
Also
The DB has some aweful writers. I recall one that I wrote an angry letter about that was nothing but a long ad hominem attack on a political figure. UCLA is full of some of the smartest and brightest people I have ever met. The DB can find significantly better talent.
No problemo if the attack letter was directed at Swharzenegger
STILL LOCO AFTER ALL THESE YEARS!
NOW CELEBRATING THE DAWN OF THE AGE OF AUGUSTUS
M·AGRIPPA·L·F·COS·TERTIVM·FECIT
FWIW
There’s a DB newspaper dispenser in front of my building. I have never, EVER, seen anyone (other than the DB delivery guy) pull one of those little rags out of that box. Talk about wasting “our precious natural resources,” the DB is a premier example of mindless and multidimensional pollution. You’d think that with green being the new red those westwierd pinkos would just go with the online version.
STILL LOCO AFTER ALL THESE YEARS!
NOW CELEBRATING THE DAWN OF THE AGE OF AUGUSTUS
M·AGRIPPA·L·F·COS·TERTIVM·FECIT
You are right Loco we should make them go Paperless with budget we have in Cali.
Or maybe they could have Bru 102 and the BN greek counsel chip it out on stone Tablets.
LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.
by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 3, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Heh, there’s plenty of granite up in the mountains…
STILL LOCO AFTER ALL THESE YEARS!
NOW CELEBRATING THE DAWN OF THE AGE OF AUGUSTUS
M·AGRIPPA·L·F·COS·TERTIVM·FECIT
In fact if they what to build anything at ucla let them go mind the stone and build it themselves.
I could see some of the stoner profs working out there.
LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.
by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 3, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
". . .green being the new red. ."
Damn son! That’s just some damn good writing.
And, not to be contrary- but I pick up the Daily Bruin (not daily, of course! i mean, . . . .come on!!!), usually in front of The Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf on Weyburn & Gayley. I read it, maybe. . . . once a month . . and a half. So, not all that much- but, it’s normally digestible. I’m not feeling the lack of quality of writing in the DB. Overall, the journalists/columnists seem capable- but it isn’t “impressive” to say the least. Have you seen how many dental and cosmetic surgery ads they have in the DB? It’s as if the School of Dentistry and Department of Plastic Surgery props that paper up much like the Chinese to our Treasury bills.
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Mar 4, 2010 6:49 AM PST up reply actions
Back when I was at USC
There was a DT reporter that decided that the USC Marching Band was employing “ringers.” “Ringers” meaning professional musicians. This was ridiculous because most people realize that the USC band isn’t trying to win any awards for musical prowess. They would rather just have fun and entertain people. So the DT reporter identifies and calls out a guy named Chuy Martinez. He was a tuba player and a 5th year band member. The reporter said that he checked the school’s enrollment record and that Chuy Martinez was not enrolled at USC, therefore he was a “ringer.” After the article went to print several people wrote in that “Chuy” was a nickname for “Jesus” and that he should check the enrollment on Jesus Martinez who was a music grad student at the time. After that revelation the witch hunt on band ringers stopped.
My point is that all of these guys are students who fancy themselves as the Woodward-Bernstein of their campuses and take giant leaps in logic and fact checking to frame their stories to fit their own purposes.
Just say it Frak SAY IT say it -----There idiots every school has them
LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.
by so.cal.native1952 on Mar 4, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Fuckin-A and B and whatever else you wanna put up here!
You’ve got some epic Trojan stories frak. Keep ’em coming, I enjoy the heck out of them. Especially the “SC” gear you wear at fUcla home games!!!! And the well-timed clusterfuck you caused in that basketball game that gave us the victory!
Seriously, if you put a few of those wonderful stories and other interesting tidbits in a paperback book- I’d buy at least 10. (maybe you could autograph 1 or 2? gifts!)
I ain’t lying. I’d way pause for that cause!
Chuy? I have a cousin nicknamed, “Lencho”. Another- we call him “Lucho”. My favorite nickname in my family? He’s this massive hunk of a Border Patrol agent- we call him “Ponson”, “Ponce”, for short. (kid you not! his name means “stomach”) Chuy, Meme, Tito, Pancho, Guero, Flaco, Chencho, Lino, Bano, Berto- they’re all terms of endearment. Handed down from sisters, brothers, uncles, cousins, and compas.
Haven’t heard “Chuy” in a long ass time. Thanks for getting me on that Way-Back Machine frak. (fwiw: my childhood nickname was uneventful. my family, especially my cousins called me, “Baggio” because I always favored Italy over Brazil and completely detested French, Spanish, and British national teams. I liked Holland too though. wonder why they didn’t go for “Johann” or “Ruud” or “Van Basten”???? i would have enjoyed “Ruud” and “Van Basten”. Baggio was pretty badass too. to this day, i get letters addressed, “Caro Baggio”. . . .it’s quite comical.)
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Mar 4, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
The truth of the band thing=
was that there actually were members of the USC band that were not students. They were local kids that loved USC, and loved the marching band. They weren’t paid “ringers” as the DT guy was looking for. They were just guys having fun playing with the band, and every bit as much a Trojan as any student or alum was in my book. The funny thing is the guy he caught was actually a student who went by a nickname.
Dude? Where's my ringer?
“They were just guys having fun playing with the band, and every bit as much a Trojan as any student or alum was in my book.” – that’s just massive of you to write that!
The dude who wrote that article about non-Chuy? Maybe he ended up shining shoes?
In Oakland, CA?
Maybe not? (guaranteed to crack yo’ ass up, hit the link. guaranteed!)
sidenote: this video (in a metaphorical/macro sense) just goes to prove the point, “good guys sometimes win”. and even when they “lose”, they actually win. i mean, is it just me? or do Bruins simply lack the necessary “rods and cones” for detecting the real “good guys”. i’m serious! i don’t think i’ve ever experienced a situation where I’ve felt I’ve acted untowards, rude, or disrespectful when I’m around ‘em. they seem to always be a major step or two ahead in that department. and . . . . .they’ve never failed. maybe they mostly just lack a really really good mirror?)
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Mar 5, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions

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