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And So Rivalry Week Begins

Well, after a weekend sweep of the northern California schools, the USC hoops team has begun preparation for its crosstown rivalry showdown with UCLA next Sunday at Galen Center. And this time around, it is quite evident that the Trojans are the team to beat. If this year is any indication, the landscape in the Los Angeles college basketball scene is starting to drastically change as the Bruins Ben's Brats have been struggling to post "Ws" in the wins column ever since opening night.

Presently, the Bruins hold a dismal 11-12 record that includes losses to Cal State Fullerton, Portland, Long Beach State, and Stanford. In the prior matchup against USC, they embarrassed the 4 letters (I'm glad they're familiar with the concept of the alphabet) in a 21-point loss to the Trojans. Yes, this program is apparently the king of LA college basketball?

Yet, even in the midst of their "down year," the ‘folks across town have been more than eager to remind Trojan fans that USC is ineligible for the postseason due to self-imposed sanctions. While that may be the case, it's important to remember that the remaining games of the 2010 season are an opportunity to lay the foundation for the coming decade. And by using the past few months as evidence, it has become quite clear that both the USC and UCLA programs are headed in entirely opposite directions.

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The Trojans, despite losing Tim Floyd and half their players to the NBA in addition to being banned from the postseason, have surpassed all expectations and appear to be a team on a rise. First year head coach Kevin O'Neill has gotten the most out of inexperienced players such as Marcus Johnson and Nikola Vucevic.

Johnson, despite never averaging more than 16.7 minutes per game, has become one of the team's most consistent offensive threats as seen by his 22-point outburst against Washington and 10 points/game scoring average. Vucevic, who did not receive significant minutes during his freshman season under Floyd, has blossomed as a sophomore by averaging a near double-double (11.8 PPG and 9.8 RPG) per outing.

O'Neill's ability to get the most of a group of players that was expected to finish 9th in the conference is yet another indication as why the former Arizona coach is the leading candidate for Pac-10 coach of the year. Turning a nice core of players into a good, efficient team is a reflection of a great coaching job, and O'Neill work is testament to that. But his achievements are not limited to what he's done with the current group of players. Even with a rather successful 14-9 overall record, the Trojans appear poised for greater improvement in the coming years as O'Neill has gotten a head start on the recruiting trail:

Recruiting has gone better than expected with the addition of Fordham transfer Jio Fontan (eligible in December 2010) as the centerpiece and a 2010 class led by point guard Maurice Jones and guard Bryce Jones. All three could start next season, giving the Trojans a new-look perimeter.

"We've recruited well," O'Neill said. "I'm moving forward in a positive manner. But I never realized how tough it would be to deal with an investigation. I'm ecstatic about the group coming in, to have Jio Fontan here. We're going to be young next year. But the bottom line is that we can't do anything about it and we can't complain."

In a college basketball world which sees a lot of player turnover due to the NBA's infamous one-and-done rule, recruiting is the lifeblood of programs. It's the lone way to survive. With so many players leaving school after just one or two years, it is essential for coaches to find suitable replacements. And by glancing at various recruiting services, ESPNU ranks USC's incoming class in the top 25, it appears as if the Trojans have a promising future. Historically, O'Neill has proven to be a sharp mind when it comes to recruiting and talent evaluation so the fact that he's assembling a nice group of prospects for the coming years shouldn't come as a major surprise.  

But while ‘SC is certainly in a comfortable position; the program across town appears to be skating on thin ice. While Bruin fans can be critical of ‘SC as long as they want (it's them who look silly in the end), it's their own team that  has plenty of problems to solve.

Even with Ben Howland at the helm, who has been described as the second coming of John Wooden by Westwood denizens after leading UCLA to three straight final fours, suddenly appears human. In fact, it looks as if he's overseeing a train wreck. And to be perfectly honest, it's quite easy to understand how Howland has begun running a program he once built up into the ground - through recruiting. Any ‘ol Bruin will tell you that:

Our problems come down to two indisputable facts: We have unaccountably recruited several inadequate players in the last few years. And those few players we have recruited who have great potential, almost always vacate the program after one or two years. And it doesn't take a mathematician to figure out that you absolutely cannot have an elite program with this formula. It is like the algebra problems where the reservoir is being filled with water from one hose, while it is being drained by another hose which is more powerful and faster. We recruit some players; some of them are no good; the ones who are good take off; and we have to immediately recruit some more of them. And if we should start to become unable to recruit many top players--and I think that this is going to become a real possibility--well, you can pretty easily predict the ultimate outcome.

We haven't gotten to that stage yet, but I am not at all optimistic that we are going to be able to recruit well in the next class. We've got a few players for next year. Smith is definitely a strong recruit, and Lamb is probably pretty good. And then we have a JC player who won't be here long, but who might help. Other than that, we are apparently going after Europeans (shudder), more JCs (hard to imagine it has come to that), and undersized sleeper players (smacks of desperation). Why should anyone just blithely imagine that this is going to get better next year or the year after that?

Not only has Howland brought in a vanilla group of athletes, but the character of Ben's Brats is certainly rather questionable as well. Google the words "Nikola Dragovic" and the suggested searches primarily include: "Nikola Dragovic arrested," "Nikola Dragovic assault," and "Nikola Dragovic suspended." That is due to the fact that the senior forward was arrested on suspicion of felony battery in November. It's rather surprising, because any knowledgeable sports fan will tell you that USC is the only athletic program in Southern California that has had players get in trouble with the law.

In addition to the legal troubles, the Brats just don't appear interested in playing team ball at all. They don't hustle. They don't play aggressively on the defensive end. They're not interested in moving on offense. Each player, despite lacking pro-potential and the talent of former UCLA starters, has his own agenda. Whether legitimate or not, most players on the roster are not buying into Howland's message and philosophy. Just listen to starting point guard Malcolm Lee:

"Feel like a caged pitbull that been on a chain for 2 years."

Bad grammar aside, Lee's comments reflect the general attitude of this current team. They aren't interested in buying into Howland's system at all. Each player is merely interested in playing his own game and meeting his own individual goals. It's a sharp contrast between the coach-player relationship in Westwood and the coach-player relationship at USC. The Trojans'  team-oriented style of play is a reflection of the positive influence O'Neill continues to have on his players. You just can't say the same thing about Howland. The varying levels of coexistence is just another indication as to why the Trojans' future is bright, while Ben's Brats appear destined to play-second fiddle to ‘SC in the coming years. 

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Excuse me while I cry on my Pyramid of Success

Dude, we suck big time. I haven’t had time to watch much this year, but the Pac-10 is just terrible to watch. It reminds me of watching the Lakers 4-5 years ago. I can’t stomach much.

by BruinFan1 on Feb 8, 2010 8:05 PM PST reply actions  

That's why they only stole one Pyramid from another philosopher!

LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.

by so.cal.native1952 on Feb 9, 2010 3:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Thats what always puzzled me.

ucla uses a triangle of success but they call it a pyramid. a pyramid is a 3 dimensional object that has 4 sides. So far I have only seen one side of that pyramid. Maybe Coach Wooden has yet to show us the other 2 sides and bottom of the pyramid of success. The parallelogram is split into 2 triangles and has words of wisdom in one, and inspirational quotes from Coach Michael Cooper in the other

by frak on Feb 9, 2010 5:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Well whoever said they were smart anyway, hah great one Frak.

LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.

by so.cal.native1952 on Feb 9, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

What are the words of wisdom?

“Rodney Guillory is Not Welcome Here”

by DFWTrojan on Feb 9, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Yo Joey

You can now remove your tongue from your cheek:-)

Seriously, O’Neill has done a masterful job. Although USC has cooled off a bit lately (notwithstanding the home sweep of the Bay Area schools) I think he fully merits Coach of the Year accolades for doing what he has done, with the players he has and in the face of probation.

by ucladj89 on Feb 8, 2010 9:18 PM PST reply actions  

brings up an interesting point

Who will win Pac-10 COY?

Robinson, Howland, and Kent are pretty much out.

by RabbitSC on Feb 8, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta go to Montgomery if it plays out as is

second would be Sendek. how is ASU competing for a title? they look terrible. he looks like your boring neighbor next door, but Herb Sendek is one hell of a good hoops coach. KO should win if USC wins it.

by DFWTrojan on Feb 8, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Montgomery?

If anything, I think you could make a solid argument that Cal has underachieved. Although, I like Sendek a lot.

--Conquest Chronicles, SBNation's USC Trojans blog

by Joey Kaufman on Feb 8, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

agree

that the real story if neither Cal or Washington win the Pac10 isn’t about the surprise winner, but about underachievement

by RabbitSC on Feb 8, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

it's been ugly.

I haven’t had much of a chance to catch the Trojans when they play either the Ducks or Beavers, but just watching the entire conference come through on TV has been an unpleasant experience.

"'I wish to hell God would stop trying to make me a better person." - T.J. Lambert

by Signal to Noise on Feb 9, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Hard to make the underachievement argument

Cal hasn’t won the conference championship since 1960. 1960! Regardless of their preseason projection, winning the conference would be a huge achievement for the Bears.

by DFWTrojan on Feb 9, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Yo DC!!

Just got done reading your wordpress site, funny stuff

by Julio Nievas on Feb 8, 2010 11:33 PM PST reply actions  

We're not rivals at all (per bRuin logic)..

Since we’re no match to them in terms of BB, they are no rivals to us in terms of football or baseball. So in reality, UCLA is our rival only in sports like Water Polo or Women Soccer…

by anh_sc79 on Feb 9, 2010 8:28 AM PST reply actions  

actually the alltime record between USC and ucla in basketball is shocking

although the bRuins have clearly been more successful against the field, head to head the record is 126-101 in their favor, a far cry from our 42-28-7 dominance in football and even farther from our baseball record (248 to 115!).

by RabbitSC on Feb 9, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Basketball is only close because

USC owned UCLA for years after UCLA started-you had a 41-game winning streak against UCLA from ‘32-’43. But this one hasn’t been close for a while. USC has won the conference only three times in the past fifty years, and one of those was the tournament title, whereas UCLA has won it 25 times in the past fifty years.

Football was obviously a lot closer before Carroll arrived: 9 wins in the last ten does it for you. We aren’t close to you guys in baseball-kinda weird considering that UCLA has had such good individual talent that we haven’t been able to do squat on the diamond. USC has had better players and managing, but you’d think UCLA would have done better given the overall quality of the other programs.

by ucladj89 on Feb 9, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, you're right

Let’s discount the years from 1932-1943 as well as the Carroll era

--Conquest Chronicles, SBNation's USC Trojans blog

by Joey Kaufman on Feb 9, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't suggest that you discount the years

just pointing out that the closeness of the UCLA-USC record in basketball stems less from competiveness throughout the years than it does from total domination early in UCLA’s history. As for football, USC also owned UCLA for years when UCLA got started and then again recently. It’s actually been a fairly competitive rivalry but one that has lent iteself to streaks for unknown reasons. Certainly UCLA’s streak of 8 straight was an aberration.

by ucladj89 on Feb 9, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

actually the football streak is 10 of 11 not 9 of 10

The football record wasn’t really close before both schools started their streaks. The record before the ucla streak started was 32-19-7. Throw 8 ucla wins in their column and you get a great Neuheisel talking point on how ucla was almost even with USC at the end of the 90s. But then you get to the part that Neuheisel doesn’t like to mention. 10 of the last 11 games are Trojan wins, and return the football record to its rightful lopsided state. Since the ucla streak started ucla has 9 wins, and USC has 10. The momentum is clearly in USC’s favor at the moment, but it remains to be seen what Neuheisel can do with his shiny new recruits.

by frak on Feb 9, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Streaks

End of 1990 Season 32-19-7
End of 1998 Season 32-27-7 (neuheisel’s favorite spot to talk about the ucla USC football history)
End of 2009 Season 42-28-7

by frak on Feb 9, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

College Sports are clearly cyclical

And for every match-up there tends to be an equilibrium point to which the all-time record will tend to return.

The problem for UCLA in all these records is that most of the teams weren’t competitive until the mid-40’s or so, especially compared to the current expectations. As a result, UCLA has very different all-time records against schools like USC, Stanford, Cal or even small schools like Occidental and Caltech than newer Pac-10 teams. Take Caltech for instance. If they started to play UCLA every year in football again, is it reasonable to expect them to win a little more than half their games (as the all-time record might suggest), or are they more likely to go the way of the last 4 games, which UCLA won by a total of 145-0? Keeping in mind that Caltech never has and never will recruit athletes (and that they don’t even have a football team atm), it’s pretty obvious what would happen.

by SuperBruinMan on Feb 10, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with you on some points

I think the streaks enjoyed by both ucla and USC are both aberrations. The usual trend is USC wins 2 out of every 3, maybe 3 out of 4. But the bruins haven’t done enough against USC to be considered its equal in any way when it comes to football. I think the Trojans peaked against the bruins already. It will be more competitive, but we still will end up with more in the win column. Thats the order of things in Los Angeles. Just like the bruins will most likely have the edge in basketball every season.

by frak on Feb 10, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

History show that school in general are know for their Football teams in America.

It has always been that way but has shifted in the last 25-35 years to some of BB and Baseball, Tennis, Volleyball and for Stanford Womens Basketball. The bruins have been impressive in a lot of other sports and that is cool, but I feel in my lifetime they will never be super in FB. But I might be wrong, or maybe they will have the first Womens FB Championship.

LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.

by so.cal.native1952 on Feb 10, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

USC is 44-28 in fb

LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.

by so.cal.native1952 on Feb 9, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Not women's soccer

UCLA’s record is 18-3-1 against USC all-time.

by SuperBruinMan on Feb 9, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

And yet

USC women’s soccer won the 2007 national championship.

ucla has never won one.

by RabbitSC on Feb 9, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny how that works

Of course UCLA aways has womens softball.

by ev on Feb 9, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

yah and those girls are hot too

LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.

by so.cal.native1952 on Feb 9, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

And don't forget

USC women’s soccer beat UCLA in the tournament on their way to the national title in the tournament.

by Laughing Stock on Feb 9, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

They must have cheated we will have find out from the Greeks

LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.

by so.cal.native1952 on Feb 9, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

CAN WE ALL AGREE?

That KO should NEVER, EVER, wear shorts?!!!!!!!! He looks like one of those Wal-Mart people for chrissake!

STILL LOCO AFTER ALL THESE YEARS!
NOW CELEBRATING THE DAWN OF THE AGE OF AUGUSTUS

M·AGRIPPA·L·F·COS·TERTIVM·FECIT

by M. AGRIPPA on Feb 9, 2010 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

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