The NCAA Through Crimson-Colored Glasses
Bumped - This an awesome read from our Friend Pete Holiday from SBN's Roll 'Bama Roll. Thanks Pete! P
Understandably, much of USC-centric writing over the past few weeks has been focused on this week's meeting of the NCAA Committee on Infractions in which they will attempt to determine what sanctions, if any, the Trojans should receive for the alleged improprieties. There has also been talk of various other major infractions over the past decade and their punishments. Alabama (my Alma Mater) has been stared at long and hard by the NCAA as well, and since comparisons have been made to the most recent set of infractions as well as those from 2002, I thought I'd add a little bit of background from those as fodder for the discussion.
I'm going to attempt to avoid direct comparisons or predictions, partially because I haven't been following the case very closely, but also because it is almost impossible for an outsider to get a good read on what the NCAA has heard and is going to hear until they release their findings. That disclaimer out of the way . . . onward:
The Textbook Fiasco
The first thing you should do as a USC fan hoping to read the tea leaves of past sanctions is to pay absolutely zero attention to the Alabama Textbook infractions case. Yes, it had to do with "benefits", but there are a few under-reported facts which really take the wind out of this as a serious violation.
First and foremost, while the violations were widespread, even the NCAA conceded that the vast majority of the violators did so unknowingly. The NCAA does not allow universities to supply "recommended" materials to scholarship athletes and most of the infractions were the result of bookstore staff not following that rule. Finally, understand that the "extra benefit" received by the athletes in this case was minor: they got to borrow more textbooks for a few months than they should have been able to. At the end of the semester, they were required to return all of the textbooks they borrowed or pay for them out of pocket. No players sold their textbooks.
There was no willful violation of NCAA rules and, the moment the issue was noticed, a full-scale investigation was kicked off to determine the scope of the problem.
It is also unlikely that the COI would base it's USC ruling on Alabama's textbook case for another very important reason: the case is still under appeal and, as such, is not yet final. If you want to read about the case and appeal in excruciating detail, these three posts at SB Nation sister site RollBamaRoll should be helpful.
The Albert Means Case
This is the one that should send a chill down the spine of USC supporters. In 2002 Alabama was hammered by the NCAA COI because a booster payed $100,000 to a high school coach for that coach to steer heavily recruited player to Alabama. The Tide lost a number of scholarships and was placed on a 2 year post-season ban. It took the better part of a decade to recover.
Why should this case be cause for concern? Three reasons.
First, the NCAA found that the booster acted of his own volition. He was not directed by or reporting to anyone at the university. In fact, a defamation law suit twisted its way through the courts because of the NCAA's description of a few individuals as "rogue boosters" .
A common theme I've seen in comments around Conquest Chronicles has been the feeling that if USC didn't know what was going on, the NCAA can't punish them. This case is proof that that assertion is patently false. The NCAA, in the very report that it handed down the sanctions, stated that there was nothing the University could have done to have learned about or prevented the transaction from taking place. This wasn't even a situation of the NCAA saying "You didn't know, but you should have..." What the NCAA actually said was "You couldn't have known this was going on, and we don't care. We have to punish someone for this, and the only one we have any power over is the University."
This seems unfair, and maybe it is, but remember that the NCAA doesn't have subpoena power and it lacks jurisdiction over a huge number of folks involved with college football. The only way they can punish a booster is by hurting his or her school.
Second, it is an example of the NCAA giving a very harsh penalty to a cash-cow school in order to send a message. It is my belief that the NCAA will never again give out a "death penalty" on account of the impact it has had on SMU, but it is clear that the NCAA is not opposed to post-season bans. Alabama's return to the national title discussion less than five years after the completion of the bowl ban is all the evidence that the NCAA needs that post-season bans are intimidating and harmful, but that a program can recover from them relatively quickly.
Third, some would argue that it demonstrates that while the NCAA cares a little bit about things like academic fraud, it is evidence that they care very much for the money of third parties being thrown around for student athletes. It is difficult -- if not impossible -- to know what goes on in the heads of the individuals on the Committee on Infractions, but it often seems, at least from the outside, that the NCAA doesn't truly care about anything but keeping money out of the hands of student athletes.
I'm certainly not trying to play Nostradamus or Chicken Little here, but this is a very serious situation for USC. While the NCAA might appear to be inconsistent, keep in mind that there are relatively few infractions cases every year, so it is difficult to synthesize from them bias or inconsistency (small sample size to derive trends from). Still, the NCAA has a great deal of power, and they wield it in occasionally baffling ways.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Conquest Chronicles' writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Conquest Chronicles' writers or editors.
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I still don't see it
I have read quotes from NCAA guys that academic fraud is the worst infraction. And, a booster paying a recruit $100k to funnel to your program is miles away from what we are looking at. I hope.
The major difference
is tracking the benefit. In the Albert Means case it was a booster enticing a player to a school. In the Bush case it is a 3rd party, who is not even a booster, attempting to entice Bush to sign with him as a pro. USC had no potential for benefit in this case. It is correct that we have no real way of knowing how the NCAA will evaluate things, but I honestly believe that the argument I articulate above is true. If the NCAA treats it otherwise it is wrong, and possibly bad faith.
That book case was BS and the same goes for the booster that did that on his own.
They are appealing it I don’t blame them it all BS, If I am the top Universities I start my own association. It would probably take only 2 years with the way the economy needs money, an outlaw league would go over great at this point.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Feb 17, 2010 5:20 PM PST reply actions
Doesn't matter if the booster is acting on his own.
The NCAA considers any booster an extension of the university and it’s their duty to monitor and control them. While we both know there are limits to that, it is the way they see it. However since Michigan and Woodson, they consider agents as the opposite. Someone working against the school and outside their control. This is what the NCAA says and yet many still get it wrong. It’s either that or they believe the Bush case is about boosters which isn’t true. Now as a side note, the NCAA did agree with OU about their booster issue but that seems to be the exception not the rule (again this would be in USC’s favor if anything). I’m worried about the NCAA but not because of Albert Means. Now if the NCAA finds USC knew and did nothing, all bets are off.
My man Pete!
Thanks for the awesome update. Admittedly, I had only perfunctory knowledge of the Albert Means case. I totally kept my head in the sand on that one, because- THAT was the last thing (as far as the profound depth of negativity) I wanted to fully understand about my beloved Tide football program. And. . . .it’s just hard on the soul to think your favorite team(s) can be involved and/or partially responsible for such alleged skullduggery.
In saying all that, I think myself- as well as many Trojan fans, feel similar to the above as it surrounds Trojan athletics. This is definitely NOT gonna be a walk-in-the-park regarding presenting our case in front of the NCAA Infractions Committee. It’s not a “gimme” as far as convincing the Infractions Committee of USC Athletics and Compliance being mostly innocent of the alleged improprieties surrounding Bush and Mayo.
Your info on the minutiea regarding the Albert Means case only adds to our worry. And, Conquest Chronicler regulars: I’ve been a member of the Roll Bama Roll football blog for a few years, and the information and commentary you see written by Pete is spot-on. I can and will attest to the fact that, whenever there are flimsy opinions and suspect notions regarding Trojan football (in the Bush case) as it pertains to the NCAA investigations- Pete Holiday has set many a fans straight over at RBR. No matter they were true-crimson Tiders, or any other of the various fans of other teams who frequent RBR- Pete Holiday (with the full breadth and pedigree of a law degree) hammers sense and sensibility their way. He has done this on many occasions and without apology. I’m not saying Pete has a soft-spot for Trojan football- he is simply a man that speaks the truth and will do so without hesitation.
My man Pete!
Thanks again broheem! Excellent post!
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
Fancy seeing you here
Thanks for the kind words — the NCAA’s machinations and legalese are fascinating to me, so I like getting a chance to write about it, even though the topics tend to be a bit painful.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Feb 19, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah! Good on ya, man!
This Fanspost of yours finally made it to the top of the “Rec” page! I was hoping someone else would rec it! See my comment on a different thread regarding the Bush/NCAA investigation.
What happened was, a month or two ago- I was reading some comments here on CC and it got me to thinking about doing and in-depth Fanpost on the Bush investigation. Something of a primer for all the CC regulars.
Then, at about 2 AM in the morning, after perusing copious articles on the subject matter. . . . . .I started to realize that the draft for my post was looking more and more like an “anti-Trojan” diatribe. All the fault of my words seemed to go towards Mike Garrett, Reggie Bush, and Tim Floyd. I started to re-think the whole entire post and the next morning . . . . .decided not to finalize it and/or post it.
Short of the long of it: on the my comment from above mentioned link is a part of what was written. Look it over, lemme know what you think?
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Feb 23, 2010 7:51 AM PST up reply actions

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