Quintessential NCAA in Cam Newton Ruling
The NCAA announced its decision regarding the eligibility of Cam Newton today, much to the chagrin of the thousands of USC fans scattered across the country. In essence, college athletics' governing body stated that Newton would be eligible to play in Saturday's SEC title game, despite the fact that his father violated NCAA rules by shopping his son to Mississippi State in a pay-for-play plan.
In its findings released today, the NCAA concluded Monday that a violation of Newton's amateur status had occurred, resulting in Auburn to declare Newton ineligible on Tuesday while simultaneously requesting for his eligibility to be reinstated.
In response, Newton has now been cleared to compete without conditions for the time being.
"Based on the information available to the reinstatement staff at this time, we do not have sufficient evidence that Cam Newton or anyone from Auburn was aware of this activity, which led to his reinstatement," Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president for academic and membership affairs, said in a news release.
"From a student-athlete reinstatement perspective, Auburn University met its obligation under NCAA bylaw 14.11.1. Under this threshold, the student-athlete has not participated while ineligible."
What remains oddly strange in this development is that rules were broken, yet, outside of Kenny Rodgers being forced to dissociate from Mississippi State and Cecil Newton's access to Auburn athletic facilities to be limited, where are the repercussions?
Even SEC commissioner Mike Slive appeared almost contrite, telling the media that "The conduct of Cam Newton's father and the involved individual is unacceptable and has no place in the SEC or in intercollegiate athletics."
But if there was improper conduct, then why not take action, as opposed to letting the dust settle and declaring Newton eligible?
Today's released report clearly indicates that rules were broken; it's beyond just speculation and allegations at this point.
Apparently, however, Newton's case is vastly different than that of the Reggie Bush episode. In regards to Bush, USC pleaded innocent by fact of simply not having knowledge of Bush's circumstances with Lloyd Lake and Michael Michaels. In the end, it failed, as the NCAA infamously ruled that "high-profile players require high-profile monitoring" and that USC should have known the living arrangements of Lamar Griffen - Bush's stepfather.
Yet, in the case of Newton, Auburn is exonerated because it was "unaware" a violation was occurring. So much for the Bush precedent where ignorance doesn't equate to innocence.
It's an odd ruling; one that isn't necessarily logical, based on previous decisions by the NCAA. But then again, find me a point in history, where NCAA rulings were consistent.
Granted, the case isn't closed, and theoretically, new evidence could present itself, where Newton eventually does become retroactively ineligible. But today's events don't make that seem like a likelyscenario.
If a golf cart ride of $5 can result in a one-game suspension for Dillon Baxter, doesn't it appear a bit strange that an admitted violation in regards to Newton involving allegedly $200,000 results in absolutely no consequences?
In case you've been asleep, welcome to the wonderful world of the NCAA.
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Seems like a slippery slope
All a kid has to do to get money is have dad represent him. If dad gets caught, then he just says that he had no idea his dad was doing that. Using a family member or friend is a very easy way to buffer yourself from wrongdoing. Mayo claimed this very same excuse, and he was punished for it. Some have speculated that Bush’s father was going rogue negotiating on behalf of his son without Reggie’s knowledge. Regardless of what the NCAA found, my belief is that they should have to prove their findings.
Don't worry if its in the SEC
its OK — USC death penalty.
Well, I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop
Now that the NCAA has found Newton to be pure as driven snow it must mean USC is going to lose ANOTHER 10 scholarships and receive an addition year of probation
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
I don't have a problem with the Cam Newton ruling...
However, I do have a problem with the NCAA hammering USC for failing to detect almost the exactly same thing. The NCAA’s conclusion that USC did know or should have know about Lloyd Lake boils down to a 2 minute cell phone call, allegedly between Lake and McNair, after Bush’s last game, that the NCAA NEVER EVEN ASKED MCNAIR ABOUT. This slim connection pales in comparison to direct testimoney from an MSU coach that Newton said he was going to Auburn “because the money was too great”. The NCAA determines the credibility of its witnesses depending on what they want to be true. What a fucking joke!
Clearly, the NCAA gives you different justice depending upon whether you a judged by your competitors or your friends. Always has been an good old boy’s club, and still is.
Seems pretty simple to me
I’m not trying to play devil’s advocate here, but- with regards to Cam and Cecil Newton (Cecil, especially- because it has been verified)- that family fully cooperated with the NCAA and the SEC. I’m not saying because of that, Cam should be exonerated. No, the NCAA will do what it damn well pleases and has no regard for it’s own bylaws, standards or precedents.
With regards to Reggie Bush? He chose his real family over the Trojan family. Pure and simple. Had he talked, had he cooperated in any way, shape or form. . . .we wouldn’t be having to deal with the severity of sanctions that we’re dealing with now. I’m not saying we would have gotten off scott-free, no far from it. But, had Reggie come to his senses and not given terrible advice on the investigation stemming from Lloyd Lake- we wouldn’t have to deal with the draconian measures and conclusions that the COI made in it’s findings.
I’m still too hurt over the vacating of wins, the scholarship reductions, and transfer ruling they handed down to us. Anything much more for me to say on this matter would be pure emotion.
I’m trying to leave that out of this conversation for my own well being.
Lastly, Slive and the SEC had Cam’s back. The Pac 10 having USC’s back? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
In case you ever asked this offseason, could it get any worse?. . .In short, the answer is yes. (Joey Kaufman- Conquest Chronicles)
The Pac-10
Didn’t really do much against or for USC. Then again, Reggie really sealed USC’s fate. I agree that if he’d been open with the NCAA from the get go and if Carroll had been open with the NCAA it would have probably been a slap on the wrist. I think the smugness of the AD, Carroll and Bush is what got you the severe penalty.
Either way, here’s to a good game this saturday. Hope everybody stays healthy and the Bruins win! :)
You can't just drive-by!
WHAT did Coach Carroll do or not do? Support your allegations against our ex-coach. You aren’t getting off that lightly dude.
In case you ever asked this offseason, could it get any worse?. . .In short, the answer is yes. (Joey Kaufman- Conquest Chronicles)
by BixBeiderbecke on Dec 1, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Apologies
Didn’t mean to come off that way. Not saying PC knew, however, it just seemed that he did. The way he walked around as if nothing could ever happen and that perhaps the NCAA could never do anything to SC is what I feel brought on the tougher sanctions.
I know the University doesn’t have to be open with the NCAA. Just saying that sometimes it’s the best thing to do. Maybe if SC is a bit more open with the NCAA during the Bush investigation and possibly even vacates wins on their own (if possible), the punishment isn’t as severe.
BTW, I’m not on Auburns side here. Part of me thinks that if TCU wasn’t sitting there at #3, Newton gets ruled inelligible.
I understand what you're saying
as many people had the impression that USC was being uncooperative, but the NCAA report makes it clear that USC was very cooperative during the Bush investigation. They were hamstrung by Bush’s lack of cooperation.
They didn’t handle it well from a PR point of view (although it’d be interesting to see how some of the other high-profile cases would have been handled if the respective universities involved had been private, rather than public), but if the NCAA took that into account in making their rulings, that’s a shame.
We could have self-imposed strong sanctions on ourselves, and maybe that would have gotten us off a little lighter, but I think that USC really was blindsided by the severity of the ruling.
We're good and. . . . .
. . . .thank you for not dumping on us and then running. It takes a degree of class to come back to Conquest Chronicles after laying a perceived bomb and following through with an explanation. I’ll give you some degree of credit for clarifying your point.
Thanks again and . . . . . WE HAVE A BALLGAME THIS WEEKEND, eh? Like you, let’s hope no one gets injured and no party gets their panties all twisted up in a wad like the Bruins did last year for our last touchdown. You guys call time-out, we call. . .“Okay then, let’s play this til the end then”. (pure and simple)
In case you ever asked this offseason, could it get any worse?. . .In short, the answer is yes. (Joey Kaufman- Conquest Chronicles)
by BixBeiderbecke on Dec 2, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
Funny thing is that everything you said is upside down
its not the way the United States or any rational place works. Why would you be open with the NCAA is not forced to? How would that be in Reggie’s dad’s interest? Or even Reggie’s? The basic assumption of american law or the logical construction of guilt in this nation is that an accuser has to prove you are guilty. Reggie was plainly guilty — how is admitting it going to help him? The NCAA has leverage over Newton — they can make him ineligible, Bush had graduated by the time these accusations came out. In addition Garrett got defensive, but I still don’t think he was wrong, and I don’t believe he knew. Pete has never been proven to have been at all involved. The real problem can be broken down into 3 key elements:
1. Why am I getting all wound up over a drive-by trolling?
2. Why would I expect any sort of justice from the NCAA?
3. Why am I surprised?
The plain fact is that circling the wagons is always the way to go — in this case Auburn got cover from The SEC, the real disgrace is that the Pac 10 offered no cover or help to USC. It makes you wonder why USC is so hell bent on staying.
That should read
“Why would you be open with the NCAA when you are not forced to?” For Christmas I want an edit feature.
You to do your homework before posting on this...
Cecil did pretty much the same thing in asking for cash like Lamar Griffin did.
You’re nuts if you think Carroll knew…more conspiracy theory from a hater. I would agree on the smugness of Garrett but the NCAA is no better when comes to being smug…
No Argument
the NCAA is a POS. The problem is they have the power to levy any punishment they want on a University without really having to justify the punishment. So it sort of makes a University have to kiss ass or else.
They only have the power given to them by their member institutions
and they have a duty to treat those institutions fairly. What is really sad is that no one stands up to the NCAA and forces them to justify their actions in court. No amount of ass kissing would have saved USC — p.s. it wouldn’t save UCLA either — Auburn and Cam Newton got off because of an institutional bias toward the SEC — thats the alpha and the omega of the issue.
The part that strikes me as funny
…is that while I think the Bush case was qualitatively different, and probably worse, the bizarre legalism of Auburn making Newton ineligible so that the NCAA would say he didn’t now and reinstate him has triggered people who were cheering SC’s punishment into total scorn for the NCAA – because of the double standard. SC should have known, Auburn took on a high-risk transfer and didn’t have to. SC was punished for not policing Bush signing with outside agents, the Newton case just showed every huckster / would-be agent how to evade NCAA standards. Until the NCAA picks someone else to enforce the rules with.
This isn’t a case of me thinking “oh, poor us,” we are where we are, and the mismanagement of the Bush / Mayo situation had a large part to do with that. But I am struck that the NCAA has some serious balls on them to rule on this particular incident in this particular way.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
My tin foil hat
I just read the NCAA ruling and it it, there are glaring inaccuracies.
Without getting into too much details because I’m actually busy with work, but in the Cam Newton ruling- there were a few “carrots” that bespeak of standards and circumstances that can be cobbled together which would seem to appear to be similar to the Bush investigation.
If USC people are viewing it, they should steer far away from how and what the NCAA ruled on. Again, I’m not at all qualified to disseminate legal-speak- but even a knucklehead like me can see the trickery involved in this Cam ruling.
Short of the long of it, for USC: don’t fall for it!
They (the NCAA) didn’t just pull this shit outta their asses. This new NCAA conclusion and the published comments on the Cam eligibility ruling are shady as all get out.
My tin foil hat: I’m thinking the NCAA wants USC to bite on this ruling. My advice: STAY FAR FAR AWAY FROM IT.
With the way the COI crafted their conclusions, there’s plenty in their written final report to tear it apart on appeal than there is to try to utilize any of the findings in the Cam ruling for support or thresholds of proof. It’s a ruse.
Tin foil hat is now off.
In case you ever asked this offseason, could it get any worse?. . .In short, the answer is yes. (Joey Kaufman- Conquest Chronicles)
by BixBeiderbecke on Dec 1, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
In other words. . . .
. . . . I think we saw the same things DC?
In case you ever asked this offseason, could it get any worse?. . .In short, the answer is yes. (Joey Kaufman- Conquest Chronicles)
by BixBeiderbecke on Dec 1, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
From what I am hearing...
The prevailing thought is that AU “turned themselves in” unlike ’SC who continued to deny, deny, deny….
go figure…
By turned themselves in they mean
were ratted out by MSU? My main problem with the “turned yourself in” argument is why throw yourself on the mercy of a capricious organization like the NCAA?
I asked the EXACT same question...Supposedly AU knew of the alegation and allegedly was working with the SEC and in turn the NCAA
Into that I would read
the SEC was running interference for Auburn and managed to avert a PR disaster. Admitting you are guilty does not make the crime go away anywhere in the world except the SEC.
The Pac-10 also worked hard on behalf of USC!
*never mind…
DEATH TO THE NCAA!
FREE USC FROM THE SHACKLES OF THE PAC 10/12
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
Hey guys, I got an idea!
How about we put in some cash so I can stroll to George Farmer’s house and give the money to his parents so he could go to USC. I’ll make sure George doesn’t know!
Unfortunately USC is not a cow college in a state that
never really recovered from the civil war — A top 25 university with a legacy of excellence across all NCAA sports — that would mean the death penalty.
bonus: NCAA Standards:
ride in golf cart > dad tries to auction your services to the highest bidder
I would make sense
that this only will help our appeal, but then I think “Hey its the NCAA. When have they ever been consistent.”
I’m not going to jump on the Cam Newton hating bandwagon. Our problems are USC problems, and Auburn problems are Auburn problems. The investigation into Newton is not closed. The only thing that this ruling does is make Newton eligible to receive the Heisman Trophy. If wrongdoing is found down the line, the same fate will befall Newton as did Reggie.
I'd be okay with you jumping on the Cam Newton-hating bandwagon
Plenty of room to go ’round.
BCS stands for Boise Can Suck it. I am naturally a proud supporter of the current BCS system.
by Brass-billed on Dec 3, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
Don't really care about Newton
The more they let him off the hook, the more it might help USC in the end. I’m not going to tear down Auburn because my team got screwed. It isn’t their fault that USC got the shaft.
The main differences between Bush and Newton
First, at least as far as anyone is aware, nothing of value ever changed hands in the Newton case.
Second, different bylaws were at issue. In Newton’s case, the bylaw itself actually requires that the student athlete knowingly participate. In other words, ignorance isn’t a “defense” per se, it’s a factual scenario that renders the player not guilty. Most of the NCAA statutes do not require anything near that level of mes rea.
Newton would likely have been ineligible had he chosen to play at MSU or if any money had actually changed hands.
I'm wrong all the time.
Agreed...but
How does the NCAA have all the info in just a few weeks?
It took them a while before they got all the info on Bush.
Sure, they an find out later and retroactively rule him ineligible so why the rush to put a statement out now without all the info?
They don't want this kid to lose the Heisman
if he is innocent I guess.
40% of Heisman voters said Newtons status in regards to this issue would make a difference on who they voted for. All of those “on the fence” voters can vote for Newton now.
As per what we know today
but while the $ hasn’t been found, that “money was too much” comment is somewhat damning. In addition at issue should be if there was a promise to pay, not whether money changed hands. All NCAA bylaws carry the mens rea of known or should have known — constructive knowledge is always enough in these situations, in fact thats what the NCAA hit USC for, “should have known”. The real difference is the actus reas of In the SEC vs not in the SEC. The really silly part is people arguing about these things like the system was ever intended to be applied fairly.
THIS
The really silly part is people arguing about these things like the system was ever intended to be applied fairly.
Ever Read the SEC ByLaws in Between Traffic Court?
“If at any time before or after matriculation in a member institution a student-athlete or any member of his/her family receives or agrees to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance beyond or in addition to that permitted by the Bylaws of this Conference (except such aid or assistance as such student-athlete may receive from those persons on whom the student is naturally or legally dependent for support), such student- athlete shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of his/her college career.”
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
Frak's 100% correct in this
Basically, trying to tie Cam Newton with Reggie Bush’s case is a dead-end. The Dillon Baxter case is more like the Cam Newton situation because of one thing: existing player eligibility. That is it.
What Slive, the SEC, and Auburn did was pretty much set up the Newton case in this way: in order to determine whether or not Cam was eligible JUST IN CASE Auburn runs the table and goes on to play/win the BCS National Title game. The SEC had the foresight to force the NCAA to rule on Cam’s eligibility so that there are no red-herrings or serious grumblings into Auburn’s path to the title game, and in some small way- Cam’s potential winning of the Heisman. (the last one is just my opinion, the title game is not)
So this case of Cam Newton IS EXACTLY what USC did for Dillon Baxter, only. . . . .(here’s the gross part of it all) the NCAA opened a Pandora’s Box for precedent in “don’t know, don’t tell, don’t ask” weirdness for recruiting. The NCAA shot themselves in the foot by being backed into a corner by SEC lawyers.
Now this in no way clears Cam’s name. He’s got a shit ton of other business to deal with when it comes to MSU. Auburn, as much as I hate them with a passion, really hasn’t done anything wrong. They did things WITH UTMOST PRECISION in this case. Got to hand it to them. And Slive. And SEC lawyers.
Cam Newton- as a name in the SEC is still not over. The SEC just wanted and demanded immediate clarification on his status so that the SEC’s “face” won’t be slung through the mud during the bowl season.
In case you ever asked this offseason, could it get any worse?. . .In short, the answer is yes. (Joey Kaufman- Conquest Chronicles)
by BixBeiderbecke on Dec 2, 2010 7:29 AM PST up reply actions
Without a trace of money exchanging hands
nothing will happen to Newton.
I saw a story on Cecil Newton’s church. The church was in disrepair, and was going to be condemned. He procured $150000 to renovate the church from donations. I assume he provided documentation from the donations, so I guess that’s a dead end.
They need to find the cash. Without the cash, there’s no case.
That's just it
As I understand it, the FBI and the IRS are in on the MSU case as we speak. Unfortunately, the Cecil Newton’s church must file for 2009 (which they haven’t been able to produce yet) and 2010 hasn’t closed yet, according to their books. But what strikes me as odd is that some of the (I think it was $80K for renovations, but more than likely I’m wrong on this) work done hasn’t been fully paid. If the IRS needs a paper trail- they’re going to get more cooperation from the construction and design contractors before they get anything from the church.
That said, they’re (the NCAA) going to have to come up with an “agreed with” party at MSU. Cecil Newton has been cooperative, up to a point. It’s the Bell and Rogers guys in this investigation that are our “LaMarr Griffin/Lloyd Lake/Michael Michaels” in this brouhaha.
Even Auburn, at this point isn’t out of the clear completely. They have issues with “knowledge” regarding Cecil Newton that dates back to July of 2010 supposedly. What the NCAA reinstatement arm ruled on was “evidence they have at this time” and so were forced to make a ruling before the entire enforcement staff cobbled together investigative parameters and the vetting of interview review and all the hard data needed to produce an full COI inquiry. So, if any representative from Auburn had prior knowledge of Cecil Newton and any of his “shopping demands”- then Auburn is fucked like pornstar!
At this point in time, NCAA enforcement (which is separate from NCAA reinstatement) is still putting pieces of this puzzle together.
At MSU, they need two parties who “attempted” to agree to a dollar amount arrangement. At Auburn, they need a paper trail of money IF AND ONLY IF Cecil got money for the renovations of his church, as well as any parties that entered into “attempting” a pay-for-play transaction.
Money is secondary in my opinion. It’s any willing parties from either MSU or Auburn that will make this tune SING! You know what I mean?
In case you ever asked this offseason, could it get any worse?. . .In short, the answer is yes. (Joey Kaufman- Conquest Chronicles)
by BixBeiderbecke on Dec 2, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
They never found Reggie Bush cash
only a few hotel receipts and an airline flight for his family.
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
Correct again!
What it really boiled down to with regards to the enforcement staff (read: not the COI initially) with regards to their admissions in the investigative report for inquiry, was the inability to pin down Reggie Bush, procurement of in depth tax-records from the Griffins, lack of a paper-trail for the Impala transaction (including the so-called “pimping out” of the car: rims, detailing, interior re-upholster, and stereo/security system upgrades), expensive suit which Reggie wore to the Heisman ceremony, procurement of hard-evidence wrt lease & payments on Michael’s house, and travel/lodgings for the Griffins for certain away games (Lake’s testimony that he purchased for them), and travel/lodgings for the Griffins to attend the Heisman presentation. Basically, the enforcement staff got zilch for evidence to support Lloyd Lakes claims and allegations. (it was Lake that alleged Ornstein paid for Reggie and the Griffin family wrt the Heisman ceremony).
In effect, the enforcement staff could not corroborate 85% of Lake’s allegations. Even a “special staff” allotted for enforcement COULD NOT connect the dots with the limited tax-records that USC provided them from the available records pertaining to Reggie’s scholarship funding. In essence, Mrs. Griffin’s (Reggie’s mom) income- coupled with LaMarr’s disability checks could have easily provided for the Griffin’s to purchase and help “pimp” the Impala that Lake allegedly purchased. What’s totally confounding is that NONE of the phone records that USC handed over to the enforcement staff could be traced to any number that Lloyd Lake or his family were using at the time. Not from any of the phones in the athletic department, nor from campus/administration buildings.
So, when the COI convened and listened to testimony from USC- those phone calls that were placed to the enforcement staff “post-hearing” (which btw USC wasn’t allowed to be witness to, party to, nor informed of. which is in direct violation of NCAA protocol and hearing procedures) was in fact lengthy and abrasive. The COI really got incredibly heated at the enforcement staff’s impotence in building it’s case. And at that point, the COI decided to make the shit up as it went about it’s business of HITTING BACK HARD against USC. They even wanted the enforcement staff to edit it’s investigation report to downgrade USC’s cooperation, but the enforcement couldn’t because their report had already been submitted as documents on record for the hearing so any changes wrt “cooperation” had to remain.
Could you just see the look on Dee’s and Conboy’s faces?
I know most people don’t give USC a chance in hell to prevail on appeal, but if USC (read: Pat Haden) TRULY HAS THE BALLS TO OBTAIN SOME FORM OF JUSTICE wrt the penalties and sanctions- they can certainly craft a somewhat successful appeal simply based on procedural error, committee negligence, committee error, hearing testimony, and gross or negligent committee interpretation of guilt pertaining to at least 3 out of the 4/5 bylaws that the committee found guilt or non-compliance wrt USC.
And that’s not including their review of Lake’s testimony.
So, even if this case rests on the committee believing Lake over McNair (which is going to be hard for USC to win the appeal on) there is enough in committee error to reduce the penalty/sanctions on appeal alone.
The point being, the NCAA knows they might possibly be up against a strong USC appeal- so right now, they are hyper-sensitive to being walloped on other fronts concerning student/athlete eligibility and status, as well as university compliance. I think they know they’ve blown it wrt the Bush investigation and COI final report. The SEC had the upper hand in the Cam Newton eligibility/reinstatement situation and were able to force AND work with the NCAA in coming to an amicable conclusion. The SEC had some big guns working with Auburn to settle the issue of Cam’s reinstatement.
At this point, it TRULY IS ALL ABOUT MONEY all across the board for the NCAA.
In case you ever asked this offseason, could it get any worse?. . .In short, the answer is yes. (Joey Kaufman- Conquest Chronicles)
by BixBeiderbecke on Dec 2, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Frak's actually incorrect, though
Bylaws stipulate that the even solicitation of a deal is a violation. There doesn’t necessarily have to be money exchanged.
by Joey Kaufman on Dec 2, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Solicitation at MSU, though
There has been no ruling for reinstatement at MSU because Newton didn’t play there. The MSU case is in the arm of the enforcement staff- different entities of the NCAA.
At Auburn, they have done nothing wrong and aren’t part of the “pay-for-play” scheme, as confessed from Rogers at MSU. So, in this regard, that’s what the NCAA ruled on. Eligibility for Newton at Auburn.
Solicitation at MSU is still on-going. Different party altogether and nothing that was ruled on yesterday at all.
In case you ever asked this offseason, could it get any worse?. . .In short, the answer is yes. (Joey Kaufman- Conquest Chronicles)
by BixBeiderbecke on Dec 2, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
That's what I find hard to believe
So did Cecil really go to MSU, ask for money and then go to Auburn and not ask for money?
It doesn’t make sense. If the Newtons were asking for a pay-for-play scheme, why would they make such a request of only one school.
Seems odd. This so-called investigation went by far too quickly. There are too many holes here.
Here's a question
why shouldn’t the player render themselves ineligible by attempting to sell their talents? Isn’t it really the same issue as players like Mike Williams attempting to go pro, failing, and then wanting to finish college? Cheating unsuccessfully, then getting a do over makes no sense.
Agree
Cam apparently went to visit and committed to Auburn very last minute, late in the game, all of the sudden, out of the blue, at Cecil’s request. It simply defies common sense, AND REPORTS FROM MSU STAFF, that Newton to Auburn was a clean recruitment. Plus, the Feds were already investigating Auburn boosters, who are some of the dirtiest boosters in the business. Who, also, hold significant board seats and influence over the university.
another source said an emotional Cam Newton phoned another recruiter to express regret about his change of commitment from Mississippi State, stating that his father Cecil had chosen Auburn for him because “the money was too much.”
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
If an SEC law is on the books but has never been enforced, it should be ignored?!?
Great post by Brooks.
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
The only thing that I really don't understand is
How you can you justify admitting that Cam Newton ineligible for that one day, while stating that he was not ineligible for any previous days? I would understand if Auburn learned about the issue the day before he was declared ineligible, but that’s not the case.
The <24 hr turnaround time to reinstate Newton when it generally takes days/weeks for the NCAA to reinstate a player also smacks of, at the least, favoritism.
"I have a commanding voice." - Ed Orgeron
Nuclear War...
With the NCAA’s “double standard” rationale on exhibit for all the world to see… if USC’s appeals are denied and the sanctions not substantially reduced… then I think the time draws near for USC to seek some kind of justice in court.
trojanWar
Worth a read
Ted Miller makes some great points comparing the Auburn and USC cases in this mailbag article here

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