Some Quick Thoughts on UCLA-Washington
by Joey Kaufman on Nov 18, 2010 8:39 PM PST
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PrintSometimes, you don't need well-written jokes to say funny things about UCLA football. Sometimes, you can just use stats. In regards to the Bruins' 24-7 defeat at the hands of Washington in Seattle, I think these should suffice:
- UCLA turnovers: 3
- UCLA total offense: 163 yards
- UCLA quarterbacks 6-of-25, 55 yards
- Wins shy of bowl eligibility: 2
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For all the hoopla that they were singing about Chow when he was hired....
they are now getting the pitchforks out across town.
Pistol Rick hired him as a PR stunt. Chow HAS NOT been effective over in Westwood..EVER!
Burfict can’t wait to tee off on this offense next week.
Slick Rick recruited well but as usual he can’t coach.
Anyone think they dump him and go after Leach????
James MacArthur - RIP "Book 'em Danno!"
Don't think they can (literally) afford to fire Neuheisel
However, the thought of Leach over there does make me shiver a little. He went toe-to-toe with Texas for a few years. A solid coach, who at the very least, is better than what they got now.
by Joey Kaufman on Nov 18, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
The fact that you think Leach is a serious D1 level coach
makes me laugh a little bit. Mike Leach is a circus act.
Now, don’t mis-understand me here – Neuheisel pretty much lost me this year after the K-State game that UCLA rolled out – but Mike Leach is not the man to take any team to multiple BCS berths. He’s a gimmick. He might work for a couple of years for 10 wins here and there, but he’s not someone you hire if you’re serious about football. He’s someone you want to hire if you want to finish 3rd in your conference regularly. He was the Jeff Tedford of the Big 12.
If UCLA were to look for someone new (and I doubt they do – Dan Guerrero has too much invested in Neuheisel at this point, unfortunately) – they’d be much better trying to go after someone like Brady Hoke or Mark Helfrich.
I think even Jon Gruden would be a better hire than Mike Leach, and I’m not the biggest Gruden fan in the world.
You're right about Dan Guerrero
The Terry Donahue, BM (not a typo) and Dump Dorrell crowd practically crammed Slick Rick down Guerrero’s throat and now they have to live with him. More likely is Danny leaves before Noohizzel, with a new job and mandate to clean up the NCAA.
Since nobody cares enough about ucla football to pay his buyout, you guys are stuck with Slick’s clownshow until his contract runs out. In the meantime let’s hope he doesn’t maim anymore innocent quarterbacks.
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
They can't afford anybody, until neu has left and who in the he'll would want to coach at CIRCus U.
Wow and more wow, I missed the beat down thought those little neubears were playing (pretending and posing) on sat. Hope there is a replay I need a good laugh, 24-7 Washington beat my spread I think I had at 13. If we leave PAC they will kick fucla out, and the bRuins can get into the Del Rey league.
Lets face it USC fans and supporters the Bruins are superior in all aspects of life, heck I here they can wipe their Butts with their mind.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 19, 2010 4:15 AM PST up reply actions
ucla's next coach
will be another retread who either played for ucla or was a past assistant coach at ucla.
There’s a 0% chance they hire someone good.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Intriquing but... NO WAY at UCLA
Changing “Ricks”… Leach for Neuheisel… would certainly shake things up here in L.A. But… fugettaboutit. Politically correct UCLA DOES NOT LIKE PR DISASTERS… and without question Leach is a walking and (the worst part) talking time bomb. Exhibit One: Anyone been keeping up on that lawsuit about TT’s dismissal of Leach which involved Craig Jame’s kid? No no no… ‘Taint gonna be no Texas cowboys coaching the Bruins. No less than 101 thousand ways for guy like Leach (and UCLA) to get into trouble out here. Doubt he’d come anyway… UCLA is too cheap.
trojanWar
3 words to describe ucla football:
We fucking suck
by Nakatomi Plaza on Nov 18, 2010 7:58 PM PST reply actions
"Understanding is a virtue, hard to come by"
J. Airplane
from Bn, they are imploding over there............
"Understanding is a virtue, hard to come by"
J. Airplane
It's Day and Night
In February (recruiting) and June (USC sanctions), it was a constant celebration.
Quite a growth from optimism to cynicism.
by Joey Kaufman on Nov 18, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
Well, that pretty well sums it up-we do suck
Although I disagree that hiring Chow was a PR stunt-with his pedigree and RN’s evident desire to not be his own OC it was a good hire. But the evidence I think is pretty clear that Chow’ and RN together are simply not getting the job done at UCLA. Of course, the same criticism may be justly levelled at the entire staff, excepting only Bob Palcic as the OL coach. Although UCLA did not do very well on the ground tonight, there are limits to what an OL can do when there is 8 or 9 in the box and the QB can’t hit an open receiver to save his life.
When Neuheisel was hired I was optimistic but not carried away since he was not my first choice or even my second or third. His record was good overall but there were obvious flaws. Now that the bulk of the 3rd season is completed, it’s pretty clear he is not a coach who can build a winning program and eventually return UCLA back to relevance. We look progressively worse this season and in this game, the most winnable of the last three and a game we absolutely had to have to retain any real chance at making a bowl, against a team with an absolutely awful run defense, and after almost two weeks to prepare, we came out and stank. Granted, we have had injuries, and we’re young in a lot of spots, but so what? It’s not asking much of a team to show improvement over the course of a season, but that hasn’t happened.
Bottom line is UCLA will not be relevant again until they commit to a successful coach with a proven record. I don’t know if we will ever do that. Faiing that, we need to find a coach who has demonstrated an ability to improve teams with talent deficiencies, preferably one with a good offensive mind. And even if he only raised UCLA to the status of conference contender once every 3-4 years, at least it would be fun to watch the games.
Mike Leach, what do you say?
Yeah, I don't fault Chow at all
He did not want to move to the Pistol. He was smart enough to know that they did not have a Pistol QB, or an O-line conducive for the Pistol.
Rick was desperate to make a move in conference, and his desperation hubris led to stupidity. His critical 3rd year to show something with USC at it’s lowest point has become an epic failure.
Rick is 100% to blame, not Chow nor ANY other assistants.
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
"desperation and hubris", "its" not "it's"
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
UCLA's 6th loss deserves the Bruin fight song!
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
I'd always heard people singing that version at SC
but had never been able to make out the words, until this video. Thank you!
It was all my pleasure!
USC should teach this song at frosh orientation. Joey, please raise this idea at student senate.
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
For nearly three years I've said it over and over: Forcing Dan Guerrero to fire Karl Dorrell
was the worst mistake the bruin fanbase and boosters could have ever made.
Bruins were blinded by jealousy and by the snide comments of clowns like mushroom, Simers and Plaschke. Yeah, Karl was a work in progress, but his players loved and trusted him, he had incredible stature in city recruiting and he was a humble MAN of high moral fiber.
You bruins treated him like a piece of shit.Karma can be a bitch. Out in Miami Karl is enjoying a good laugh.
Ucla 16 Oregon 0
November 24, 2007
Fight On Coach Karl!
USC wins again.
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
Well I have said it before too about Karl, but they had a great coach in Toleto too. I wonder if the Rose bowl people will ask ucla to play somewhere else.
Lets face it USC fans and supporters the Bruins are superior in all aspects of life, heck I here they can wipe their Butts with their mind.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 19, 2010 4:24 AM PST up reply actions
How dare you...
Compliment the very root of UCLA’s current problems! Everyone knows that UCLA football won a grand total of zero games under Dorrell! Anything that seemed like a “victory” was simply a mirage of epic proportions! The great leader has wiped clean all memories of “Coach Toledos Successor”!
by DannyJay01 on Nov 19, 2010 10:22 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Haha the infamous "CTS."
So Danny, were a victim of yesterday’s banhammer fest? If not… tick tick tick
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
Oh no...
I got the guillotine last year when I dared defend “CTS” by saying that it was time to move on and stop living in the past. I was called a “troll” and my personal favorite “someone who is a USC football fan and a UCLA basketball fan” in other words a bandwagoner. Any of my responses were swiftly deleted and eventually the great warrior Nestor exercised his power and authority to ban me.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 19, 2010 10:50 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
BM road kill huh?
It’s obvious that they’ve come to realize that KD would have had the program rocking by now. Norm Chow would have had the freedom to run his offense and choose his QB’s and Walker would have stayed long enough to establish a dominating defense. The recruits would have stayed on the reservation instead of heading out to Oregon, Washington and Arizona. With USC under the NCAA’s jackboots, ucla would have returned to relevance.
They used their Saul Alinsky strategies on Dan Guerrero to great effect. Now they have to live with the results.
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
Well..
I don’t think he would have gone out and gotten Norm Chow. He really wasn’t the type of coach that would have taken UCLA to elite levels, but he also didn’t deserve the treatment that he got from BM.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 19, 2010 12:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't be sure about that
KD was not ready for the job when ucla hired him, of that there is no doubt. It was clear that he was going to have to learn on the job, therefore it made no sense to get rid of him when his record after four years was similar to Bob Toledo’s, while running a clean program.
I met KD on two occasions and found him to be extremely affable and approachable. There wasn’t an ounce of pretentiousness in this guy. If DG had stood up to the BM you can bet Norm Chow would have fallen in his lap. The three headed hydra that would have been Dorrell, Chow and Walker could have posed some serious difficulties for us. And yeah, they would have gotten you knuckleheads to the Rose Bowl.
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
No doubt
KD, Chow AND Walker, that would have been a lethal combo. Good anecdote on KD, Loco. I always respected the guy. He seemed to be of solid character and integrity. He was not chummy with the USC coaches, but he sure didn’t talk smack either. He had some Ty Willingham class to him. While I dislike UCLA immensely, I did not so overtly root against them like I do with the great hot air balloon, Slick Neuweasel.
KD was a good man whom I respected. Slick Neuweasel is a charlatan and huckster.
BM = Bruin Mob (?)
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
Dorrell...
Always had that demeanor in interviews or press conferences. Let’s not forget that he also led us to a 10-2 record (Dismissed as a mirage by you know who). The problem that year was a horrible defense which would be rectified with the hiring of Walker.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 20, 2010 7:43 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
KD exudes dignity and class, he is a great human and a great African-American
He towers above fool currently leading the parade.
I’m always amused by independently minded bruins that cling to the notion that KD could not have taken ucla to “elite” levels, forgetting all about the 10-2 season.
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
Just checked out the BN thread
serious question, has there been a “Hello Kiffin” joke there in recent months?
In terms of having a skill set, it’s all there
I completely disagree. If Locker had any skill at all, he wouldn’t have such an atrocious year, and by atrocious I mean he will be the next Jamarcus Russell, book it. I’ve never seen such an overrated player.
He's no Jamarcus Russell. No team will draft him in the first round.
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
In fairness his receivers are pretty terrible
QB can’t catch his own passes.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Simers' column is up
“The Bruins are a mess and so are some of their followers, who can’t handle the 24-7 defeat to Washington with any class.”
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
Clssic Simers/Clssic Neuheisel
Neuheisel said injuries have prevented that. “I believe brighter days are right around the corner,” he said.
"Understanding is a virtue, hard to come by"
J. Airplane
"I believe brighter days are right around the corner"
How is he going to back up that promise…resign?
How many corners
does this obstacle have? By my count, Rick has turned 20 corners over the last three years and still run into the same darker days. But hey… maybe this is one of those 21 sided obstacles.
The Bruins have faced so many corners
that I am quite certain they are just walking in circles, just as Neuweasel talks in circles.
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
Only one thought as a Beaver watching this game
“How on earth did we lose to BOTH of them?!” [sob]
We've lost to one of them so far.
I will definitely feel your pain if we lose to the other. Of course, we also have a chance to lose to the team that lost to both of them.
Wow, let’s hope none of that happens….
I don't get it
In fact, that’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. Washington beat a bad USC defense on Oct. 2. In many ways, that was eons ago. Since then, ’SC put a drubbing on Cal, leading 42-0 at halftime, led No. 1 Oregon 32-29 mid-way through the 3rd quarter in a nationally televised matchup and upset No. 18 Arizona on the road last Saturday.
If you have a pulse, the USC and Washington teams that played in early October have gone in opposite directions. Since that game, UW has beaten two bad football teams in Oregon St. and UCLA, while the Trojans merely lost to two top-5 opponents. It’s pretty clear that USC is a far better team than they were earlier in the season. Washington is worse, particularly after injuries to Locker.
Teams change over the course of the season. Do you honestly think James Madison would beat Virginia Tech, now? I find Miami (Fl.) to also be a bit different now, considering injuries to Jacory Harris. So I don’t get the logic: “well, Washington beat USC early in the season, then beat UCLA and now the Bruins can beat USC.”
I believe she tweeted earlier that she “likes” Sark and Rick.
Well, I at least like Sark too. He has a hot wife and used to be the offensive coordinator here. Seems like a good dude. But that doesn’t make Washington good. A game on Oct. 2 is not, however, indicative of an entire year of college football. That’s a ridiculous notion.
by Joey Kaufman on Nov 19, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah...
I was perplexed about “I like Rick and Sark” thing…like that matters of has anything to do with what goes on the field…
Oh, and REC’D!
James MacArthur - RIP "Book 'em Danno!"
On another note
How the fuck does somebody like Slick Rick?
What kind of “endearing” qualities does he have?
by Joey Kaufman on Nov 19, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
None
Lets face it USC fans and supporters the Bruins are superior in all aspects of life, heck I here they can wipe their Butts with their mind.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 19, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
+1,000,000
There’s a sucker born every day. Slick Rick is the used car salesman who promises you the world, then just bounces from job to job once his true identity and lack of skills is revealed.
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
Well, he recruits well
and he does talk a good game, unlike Dorrell. Face it, a lot of enmity directed towards Dorrell was a result of the fact that he sounded like a complete moron in front of a microphone.
Now, Dorrell clearly wasn’t a complete moron (I met him a couple of times, and he struck me as a fairly quiet and humble guy, with the possibility for potential), but the possibility of potential and being quiet and unassuming don’t win you many football games or many fans in the media. That’s just the way it is.
Neuheisel can talk a good game and he certainly can recruit. The open question is whether he can coach, and the more I see of him, the more I’m convinced he can’t.
Also, coming from a fan of a team who is coached by Lane Kiffin, I’m not quite sure you have room to talk about ‘endearing’ qualities. Kiffin’s just about as endearing as Neuheisel, basically.
We love Kiff!
Why is Kiff not endearing to you? Because you have swallowed hook, line, and sinker the MSM narrative of Kiffin as the evil villain in the ESPN CFB soap opera?
Who is the fan of a team coached by Kiffin who does not find him endearing? And, WTF cares about endearing anyway? Do you you want Paul Wulff as your coach, or do you want to win championships?
1) Kiff is an outstanding Xs and Os tactician
2) Kiff is hip and cool and is a powerful recruiter of players and staff
3) Kiff has a young genius offensive mind
Kiff is on his way to winning 10-games during a sanction season in his 1st yr as USC HC. Skippy Neuweasel is tripping over himself on the way to his second 4 win season in 3 years.
How dare you compare Victory Lane Kiffin to Skippy Neuweasel!
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
Mike Shula also won 10 games during a sanction season.
Lane Kiffin is Mike Shula. In more ways than one.
I'm not bitter
And look, I get it – you support Kiffin because he’s your coach. That’s cool – I’d probably do the same thing. But to somehow argue that Lane Kiffin is completely mis-understood by everyone except USC fans is a bit of a reach.
As is stating he’s a brilliant Xs and Os tactician – I can probably name 35 coaches off the top of my head who are better X and O tacticians than Lane Kiffin. That’s roughly analogous to an LSU fan claiming Les Miles is a brilliant strategist.
I'm glad you're not bitter...
I’m starting to get the feeling
Chow isn’t a real big fan of the pistol, and to be perfectly honest, it looks like he isn’t really trying out there. Something’s clearly run in terms of communication with this coaching staff – in all aspects.
There is only one coach on this staff who one can argue is doing their job, and that is Bob Palicic. Everyone else looks like they’re mailing it in.
by CAJason80 on Nov 19, 2010 9:30 PM PST
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
I knew Norm didn't want to do the pistol
from his comments to the LA Times. Why hire Norm Chow if you don’t want to run his offense. The folks at BN like calling out the assistants when something isn’t working. The problem isn’t Norm. The problem is Neuheisel, and lack of a QB and O-Line. Blame those reasons if you want, but Norm has nothing to prove to anyone. He has more than proven himself time and time again. Pete Carroll and Chow rebuilt the Trojans in 2 years. Clearly the problem is Neuheisel’s offensive meddling.
Prince is half decent
and Norm could have taken him into the ranks of the top 25% of college QBs. Disgusting Neuheisel decided to sacrifice that poor kid (as well as the others) with his dangerous “neu” schemes.
If ucla lacks a QB it’s because he’s sitting on the sideline with his head cracked open. They say Norm is “just mailing it in,” but who the hell could blame him?
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
Hey, that's not being bitter
That’s being honest. I’m not pissed off at Chow – he’s not a fan of the pistol. It’s not working out for him. That doesn’t mean I’m wanting to string him up. There’s a combination of factors (not just Chow, several to do with the entire coaching staff) that’s causing the problems. It’s not just one person.
But the results on offense from UCLA dictate either one of two things:
1. Chow is and always has been completely overrated (not really likely)
2. Chow’s mailing it in (probably a much more likely option).
And Chow mailing it in isn’t just (or really) Chow’s fault. That sits on the entire coaching staff, including the head coach.
or
3. Chow can’t succeed with inferior athletes, terrible quarterbacks, and his head coach who thinks gimmicks offenses, and QB swapping will fix things.
You can’t polish a turd, and that’s what Norm has to call plays with.
by frak on Nov 20, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
+1,000,000
that was so beautiful, it brought a tear to my eye. rec’d!
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
Owning Jason... Also rec'd!
The BM looks utterly clueless (not honest) by blaming NC. He is one of the best offensive coordinators in the business, period. If he’s mailing it in it’s only because of Neushizzel’s meddling.
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
You and I aren't really disagreeing
Chow doesn’t have a lot to work with – and I completely agree about the gimmick offense experiment.
I hear you
Just saying I believe the problems with the offense are more on Neuheisel than Chow at this point. The offense that the bruins are running doesn’t resemble a Norm Chow offense at all. Why pay Norm Chow if you aren’t going to use his expertise.
Perplexing...
I would like to see that list and what their records are.
And don’t give me that crap about Shula…playing a pussy SEC schedule would make me look good.
I love all the talk about coaches being nice guys…who gives a shit! That is not what they are hired for. You’re a UGA guy…Richt is touted as a nice guy but he hasn’t won much so how’s that working out?
Its the assholes who always win because they take no prisoners. The only difference between Saban and Skippy is that Saban has no problem getting in EVERYONES face. Skippy tries to be too many things…a dick to his players and then the politician to the crowd…he tries to make friends. Saban couldn’t care less….and neither does Kiffin.
You know why Simers likes Kiffin? Because Kiffin isn’t intimidated by clowns like Wolf or Simers…he has no problem sparring with them. In fact Simers tried nail Kiffin on day 1 and Kiffin stood toe to toe and didn’t cower….he just doesn’t care.
And before you mention Pete Carroll, understand this…he is an asshole just like Saban, he just uses “Aw Shucks” demeanor better than anyone I know. He can disarm a room just like Skippy but will cut your heart out to beat you.
Skippy shovels shit like the best of them…but once again it is clear that he can’t coach. I would have more respect for Skippy if simply told the naysayers to fuck off instead of trying to kiss their ass with clown show post game speeches.
You kiss the boosters asses in private and put up a tough demeanor in public.
You have TWO offensive “geniuses” who are not on the same page which is why I think the Chow hire was all about PR….all flash and no cash! Too many cooks in the kitchen. They should have let Chow walk and let Rick run the show unencumbered. I laugh at all the UCLA fans that want to hammer Chow….Right. It’s like saying it’s the Executive Officers fault the ship ran aground when it is the Captains ultimate responsibility.
James MacArthur - RIP "Book 'em Danno!"
by Paragon SC on Nov 20, 2010 4:40 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Agree with most of what you wrote
Blaming Chow is looking to blame someone who’s not named Neuheisel.
UCLA’s also missing a ‘true’ QB coach – Neuheisel clearly isn’t one. Their WR coach is also terrible – no one does less with more talent than Reggie Moore. That receiving corps could be decent with someone who knew what they were doing. Look, the coaching situation and player development is all a bit of a mess at UCLA right now. That’s on Nueheisel, bottom line.
As for the ‘nice guy’ argument – I agree. College coaches aren’t necessarily hired to be ‘nice guys’, but there are plenty of them in the game. Mack Brown’s a ‘nice guy’ – people often said the same thing about him as they do Richt today. Since he won that NC, people don’t really mention that he’s ‘too nice’. Funny hoe winning will do that. Hopefully Richt can get there someday – but Richt is far and away the best coach that UGA’s ever had – record wise, and even success wise.
He’s had a bad couple of years, but some of the suggestions that people have – “Lure away Muschamp!” – “We should hire Mike Leach!” – are completely ridiculous.
Ok, name the 35 coaches Jason
since you know Kiff so well. your hubris is ludicrous. I have actually studied Kiff’s record in depth. you know nothing more about Kiff than what you read on sportsline.com in Doyel’s columns. I can bring data to the table. what is your proof that Kiff is not a good coach, considering USC is on track to win 10 games in his first season with the program devastated by sanctions. whatcha got?
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
I knew this was coming
Nick Saban
Chris Petersen
Chip Kelly
Urban Meyer
Gary Patterson
Bo Pelini
Bret Bielema
Mark Helfrich
Dick Bumpas
Kirby Smart
Mike D’Antonio
Steve Spurrier
Frank Beamer
Kyle Whittingham
Jim Harbaugh
Jim Tressel
Gus Malzahn
Will Muschamp
Paul Johnson
Brady Hoke
Al Golden
So sorry, that’s only 21 coaches (so sue me, or do whatever it is you do to people on the Internet when you don’t agree with them) – and my point was not that I could name x number of coaches ‘better’ than Kiffin – it’s that I could name 35 coaches who are better X and O guys than Kiffin. Kiffin has several positive qualities – being an Xs and Os kind of guy isn’t one of them. If you want to argue that – you and I will just have to agree to disagree there.
I’m glad you think you know Kiffin amazingly well. I’m a Tampa fan, so I’ve been following Lane since likely right around the same time he got hired by Carroll on the USC staff. Spare me your ‘I study Lane Kiffin in my spare time’ speech. I think he got jobbed by the Raiders, and then he jobbed Tennessee. Such is life.
On a related note, I like Monte a lot – but my honest opinion is that the Tampa-2 defense doesn’t work in the college game. I’m still not sold on it working on college, and that is honestly what is going to make or break Lane’s success at USC, IMHO.
Kiffin's Xs and Os Expertise
Kiffin is arguably the best OC as an HC in the country. He has markedly improved every team that he has coached. Focus on the offensive improvement in yards and scoring under Kiff vs. the prior year:
USC 2004 (Norm Chow as OC)
Record: 13-0
Scoring: 38.2 ppg
Total offense: 5838 yards
Offensive TDs: 61
USC 2005 (Lane Kiffin as OC)
Record: 12-1
Scoring: 49.1 ppg
Total Offense: 7537 yards
Offensive TDs: 83
Raiders 2006 (Art Shell)
Record: 2-14
Scoring: 10.5 ppg
Total Offense: 3939 yards
Offensive TDs: 12
Raiders 2007 (Lane Kiffin)
Record: 4-12
Scoring: 17.7 ppg
Total Offense: 4717 yards
Offensive TDs: 28
Tennessee 2008 (Phil Fulmer)
Record: 5-7
Scoring: 17.3 ppg
Total offense: 3225 yards
Offensive TDs: 22
Tennessee 2009 (Lane Kiffin)
Record: 7-6
Scoring: 29.3 ppg
Total offense: 4985 yards
Offensive TDs: 47
USC 2009 (Jeremy Bates as OC)
Record: 9-4
Scoring: 26.5 ppg
Total offense: 5058 yards
Offensive TDs: 40
USC 2010 (Lane Kiffin as HC)
Record: 10-3*
Scoring: 35.2 ppg*
Total Offense: 6006 yards*
Offensive TDs: 62*
*projected
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
Kiffin knows Xs and Os better than these guys
You fail to understand that Kiffin is the son of a legend. He grew up in a locker room. He played D-1 QB. He has been tutored by Monte Kiffin, Pat Hill, Jim Sweeney, Jeff Tedford, Dom Capers, Sonny Lubick, Pete Carroll, and Norm Chow. He is arguably the brightest young coach in America. Your list is full of successful coaches, but I would only say that a few know offensive Xs and Os as well as Lane. Not saying that the others can’t head coach a great program, just talking Xs and Os here:
Nick Saban – program coach
Chris Petersen – program coach, good offensive coach
Chip Kelly – good offensive coach
Urban Meyer – recruiter
Gary Patterson – program coach
Bo Pelini – defensive coach
Bret Bielema – must be a joke
Mark Helfrich – definitely a joke
Dick Bumpas – who
Kirby Smart – are you drunk?
Mike D’Antonio – ludicrous
Steve Spurrier – 20 years ago
Frank Beamer – LOL
Kyle Whittingham – ROFL
Jim Harbaugh – Kiffin equal
Jim Tressel – ROFLMFAO!!!
Gus Malzahn – Gimmick
Will Muschamp – You CANNOT be serious!!!
Paul Johnson – Child Please!
Brady Hoke – As if!
Al Golden – This is your brain on crack!
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
By her logic shouldn't USC beat UCLA
by 16 points?
Niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Lets face it USC fans and supporters the Bruins are superior in all aspects of life, heck I here they can wipe their Butts with their mind.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 19, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
delightful
It’s about 630 in the morning, I’m somewhere in southern oregon, it’s cold and I’ve got a mcdonalds cup filled with 4loko. Fuck the beavers.
Completely forgot ucla was even playing last night. Do you think slick rick still gets another year? Consensus that I’ve been hearing is he gets one more.
"I have a commanding voice." - Ed Orgeron
by RabbitSC on Nov 19, 2010 6:39 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Micky Dees did you see the
Lets face it USC fans and supporters the Bruins are superior in all aspects of life, heck I here they can wipe their Butts with their mind.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 19, 2010 8:23 AM PST up reply actions
sorry strike the last 4 words
Lets face it USC fans and supporters the Bruins are superior in all aspects of life, heck I here they can wipe their Butts with their mind.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 19, 2010 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
Every time
Neuheisel yells at a QB after an interception, I smile a little.
Here is why it isn’t Chow’s fault:
1. He has had a proven track record of success with other teams
2. Neuheisel has a proven track record of decline with other teams
3. Chow has a specific style of offense that requires a pro-style QB and a O-Line that can protect him.
4. ucla decides not to run Chow’s offense, and tries the pistol which exposes their QB to injury while running the ball.
5. ucla’s pistol offense injures Prince, and Brehaut
6. When Chow took the job he stated that he didn’t feel like he had the talent at the QB position to be competitive
7. Neuheisel and Chow were not on the same page regarding who the starting QB was last year
8. Neuheisel and Chow were not on the same page regarding the pistol offense this year
9. Neuheisel hired Chow to run the offense, but has injected so much of his own ideas into the offense, that it doesn’t look like Chow anymore on the field. Chow is just winging it now
My opinion is that the bruins should not have hired Norm Chow if Neuheisel wasn’t going to run Chow’s offense. Also, the bruins shouldn’t blame Chow for their lack of talent. The truth is that they have a huge talent gap with the other teams that they play, especially at QB and WR. Seriously the WRs this year seem to drop everything.
by frak on Nov 19, 2010 7:17 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
In my strange mind I don't know why any QB would come to play the Weasels games, someday he will pop-off at the wrong person and get deep sixed.
Also about Chow he actually hasn’t been fired at the jobs he has had, the Weasel has many of time. I am sure that the players on the Ravens were ready to kick his ass, thats probably one of the reasons they let him go.
Lets face it USC fans and supporters the Bruins are superior in all aspects of life, heck I here they can wipe their Butts with their mind.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 19, 2010 8:31 AM PST up reply actions
Did you see Rick's reaction and treatment
of the third string QB after he threw that fourth quarter pick 6? He just ripped into him and then walked away from him. How can you do that to a kid who is your third string QB and probably had almost no preparation? If this were the pros or whatever then sure I get it, but in college that should be a teaching moment a chance for Rick to help his QB improve. Instead Rick yells at his player and the kid likely tunes him out and whatever message was there is lost.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
I believe, If I read Rick's lips correctly
he said, “Bullshit” to the kid
"Understanding is a virtue, hard to come by"
J. Airplane
Yeap...
James MacArthur - RIP "Book 'em Danno!"
by Paragon SC on Nov 19, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Awesome grab! How'd ya do that?
“Bullshit” is what that kid should have been saying to that asshole.
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
OMG, thank you for that
Para, did you create this or find it somewhere? I’d love to know the easiest way to create these video clips. With how much I blog, my wife will not allow me to invest significant time in cutting video!
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
found it on WeAreSC...
Yeah…same here, wives and blogging don’t mix . As much of the techie that I am(and I am still a novice on many things) I don’t have the time or the patience to cut game video. I spend enough time downloading and ripping movies for my Apple TV and cutting video from my 4-year olds various activities.
That’s why I haven’t been as involved in the site as I usually am this season…trying to balance work, blogging and family….getting tougher.
James MacArthur - RIP "Book 'em Danno!"
To steal a line from the Hangover
“That’s why I’ve managed to stay single this whole time, you know?”
by Joey Kaufman on Nov 20, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
LOL!
that movie was so awesome. can’t wait for II.
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
Will be great
They’re supposedly filming in Thailand and Galifianakis has a shaved head.
by Joey Kaufman on Nov 20, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Jerry Neuheisel quote from July 2010
“Hey Key,” (Jerry) Neuheisel said. “If they like bowl games, they’ll go to UCLA.” Johnson laughed and fired back: “Hey Jerry, if they like bowl games, they won’t go to UCLA.”
I guess Keyshawn is psychic.
by frak on Nov 19, 2010 9:57 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
A couple more "quickies"
Wonder if the memory of Karl Dorrell is any fonder these days?
After nearly three years, it seems the magic of Norm Chow at UCLA is not what it was at USC.
trojanWar
That's because Pete was a defense guy
and Chow was an offense guy. Not to mention we had talented players suited for Chow’s style of offense.
Can I go on record...
As saying that I preferred DeWayne Walker?
by DannyJay01 on Nov 19, 2010 10:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Danny, I think most people prefer DeWayne Walker to Chuck Bullough
but come on, neither of them were exactly ‘elite’ DCs. Walker was too inconsistent as a DC from a week-to-week basis, and those UCLA teams were stacked with NFL talent on the defensive side of the ball.
Bullough’s been lucky because he basically had a senior-laden linebacking core and Brian Price to help him out last year. Without that this year, his schemes have looked outdated and – more importantly – completely predictable. This wasn’t that much different from Walker’s schemes on a week-to-week basis.
Neither of those two DCs are really worth their salt as coordinators, but it just goes to show that UCLA’s probably never going to really step up to the plate and pay for elite coordinators, apart from (I guess) Chow, who looks like he’s either completely at odds with Neuheisel and/or completely mailing it in.
Can I go on record...
As saying that I preferred DeWayne Walker?
by DannyJay01 on Nov 19, 2010 10:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'll go on the record...
Remember what mushroom referred to as “Choker?”
DG floated the possibility of a Chow and Walker collaboration. When the BM went after them with all guns blazing the Trojan Family smiled.
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
Yes Danny they made a big mistake they could of had Walker and Chow, basically the same combo we had at USC.
Lets face it USC fans and supporters the Bruins are superior in all aspects of life, heck I here they can wipe their Butts with their mind.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 19, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Fickle describes it best...
It strikes me as being similar to communist countries. Anything that is said that strays too far from their overall message or theme is censored. Even Nestor’s headlines are heavily peppered with his own opinion when they should be more or less objective.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 20, 2010 7:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
BINGO!!!
Right on both counts… defense… the first and most fundamental building block of any winning program… better players… just like John McKay once said: I’ll play you anywhere… at home, at your place… anywhere… if I have the best players I’ll play you in Alaska." Don’t know if those words are somewhere in Heritage Hall… but they should be.
trojanWar
I remember vividly...
DeWayne Walker became an “overrated” coordinator and a “traitor” and then was celebrated when he was retained, then became “overrated” again when he took the NMSU job….
by DannyJay01 on Nov 19, 2010 10:54 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Walker was such a bust
in the estimation of Nestor, because his defenses gave up yards and points to good offenses. Oh, he also sucked because he didn’t go for a two-point conversion in the Las Vegas Bowl against BYU-in the first half. Take a look at how many UCLA defenders grace NFL rosters-Walker was a very good coach who did a lot considering what he had to work with. I don’t know if he was a “great” coach, but I do know he was better than what we have now, and if he had stayed it would have been something to see hism work with some of the talent we have now…sigh. I do disagree with the idea that he would have stayed for longer-he was clear that he wanted a HC position and I think it’s really unlikely he would have stayed longer.
by ucladj89 on Nov 19, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
For a cash strapped public institution with strange notions of moral superiority...
Walker was indeed great, and so was Karl Dorrell
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
esta loco senor
if you really believe that Dorrell was a great coach. Other than his one 10-2 season, which resulted in a 3rd-place finish and a Sun Bowl berth, his record was barely .500. The 10-2 season was punctuated by a 52-14 loss to AZ and then of course the 66-19 debacle to youse guys. The highlights of the Dorrell years were several incredible comeback wins in the 10-2 season, 13-9, the Sun Bowl win, and one sweet win over Oklahoma. Otherwise, it was bowl losses to Fresno State, Wyoming and Florida State, beat-downs against Utah and others, and a home loss to probably the worst Notre Dame team in recent memory.
Dorrell may actually look good in comparison to Neuheisel, but that hardly means he was a good coach who we should be wishing we had back.
Please point out a few of Neushizzel's highlights
Thought so.
I’m not saying KD was Tommy Prothro of Dick Vermeil but he was almost the guy ucla needed after the lunatic fringe demanded Toledo’s head in the name of bruin purity. I say almost because he didn’t have any head coaching experience. You knuckleheads should have known it was going to take at least four years for him to learn the job, but instead you demanded Rose Bowls and “ownership” of Los Angeles. Against Pete Carroll’s historic teams? How unrealistic was that? Karl did win one didn’t he?
Too bad Dan Guerrero didn’t have the balls to stand up to the Dump Dorrell/BM/Terry Donahue lynch mob. If he had supported his friend, ucla would be contending for a decent bowl game this year. Instead you’ll be trimming trees and wrapping presents, just like (sanctioned) us!
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
You're destroying an argument I never made
I am not suggesting that Neuheisel has been better than Dorrell. I only took issue with your characterization that Dorrell was “great for a cash strapped insititution with strange notions of moral superiority.”What Neuheisel has done subsequent to Dorrell does not bolster or undermine my position. Dorrell was a good man who was not a great coach, who was not going to become a great coach and who proved throughout his tenure that he was an average coach who had one good year (settting aside the absolute blowouts to AZ and USC.) That’s not a dishonor, but it’s hardly the record of a guy who was almost a great hire.
Dorrell got five years to show what he could do. Season records: 6-7, 6-6, 10-2, 7-6 and 6-6 (he was gone before the bowl loss to BYU.) Career record was 35-27. Most Bruin fans I know (and I know a few) were not expecting Rose Bowls and ownership of LA-frankly, I don’t even recall the loons at BN demanding such results straight out of the gate. Most of us on the sane side of the ledger assumed that by year 3-4 we’d be looking to compete for the conference title or a high-level bowl-maybe that was overly optimisitic, but it was not absurd to believe that after that 10-2 season we might be able to start stringing some good seasons together. Instead, we took a big step backward and 2007 was no better.
UCLA has a recent history of making the wrong choices to coach its football team. The fact that Neuheisel is looking like a real lemon doesn’t vitiate the fact that his predecessor was simply average at best.
Ucla was never in the market for a great coach. Ucla can’t even afford a great coach. Ucla’s only road was to grow one, instead you cut him down. The worst part was not letting him coach against Utah for fear that he might win a bowl game. Pathetic.
I disagree with the argument that KD would never be a great coach. It took John Wooden from 1948 to 1964 to win his first NC. He was always “good” but it took a long time for him to be great.
Football season is here
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Two points of diagreement (and one of agreement)
I think you’re right about UCLA not being in the market for a great coach when we replaced Dorrell. Historically, we’ve never sought out a top-tier, established coach in any sport, let alone basketball. Since outstanding coaches in football are expensive, it’s not likely that UCLA will ever pay the money to bring in a great one. It’s more likely that we’ll go for a young coach with some record of success at a smaller program or else a retread. Sigh.
As for the Wooden analogy: I think it’s inapposite. Wooden taook over after Wilbur Johns 93-120 over the previous nine seasons. He had exactly two winning season s and two conference titles. Wooden didn’t win a national title until ‘64, but he won the conference his first four seasons in charge and won it in six of his first eight seasons. UCLA also went to the NCAA tournament in four of those eight seasons. Unless the definition of great is based solely on national titles, Wooden was great from the start, so I don’t believe your use of Wooden is quite apposite.
My categorical denial that KD was ever goging to be great may have overstated things, but there was no evidence of greatness at all in five seasons. I suppose anything is possible, and perhaps Dorrell might have evolved into a great coach. But not based on the evidence.
One more thing dj
Dorrell, Walker and Chow would have been a real force on the recruiting trail
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
Wow we finally agree, hope you get the coach you like someday, and your BB team is playing very well.
Lets face it USC fans and supporters the Bruins are superior in all aspects of life, heck I here they can wipe their Butts with their mind.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 19, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
True...
There’s an article floating around out there somewhere that he gave himself a 3 year deadline to become an HC. My personal opinion though is that he simply took the job at the wrong school. Although he is getting some pretty valuable experience.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 20, 2010 7:50 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Wow Fake Marble
Lets face it USC fans and supporters the Bruins are superior in all aspects of life, heck I here they can wipe their Butts with their mind.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 19, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
No thats what Jerry and his dad get when they look at it.
Lets face it USC fans and supporters the Bruins are superior in all aspects of life, heck I here they can wipe their Butts with their mind.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 20, 2010 8:28 AM PST up reply actions
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