Are things getting a little "Chippy"?
by Paragon SC on Oct 28, 2010 6:01 AM PDT
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I am not sure I would call it a war of words or if it's really important but there is a small skirmish of words going on between Lane Kiffin and Oregon Coach Chip Kelly.
Here are Kelly's comments...
"In their two-deep, out of their 44 players, they have 12 five-star recruits and 26 four-star recruits," Kelly said. "I don’t know if there is anybody in the country who has that. I keep hearing USC is down in talent. We have zero five-star recruits in our top 44 and 11 four-star recruits."
I don't think anyone will say that we don't have any talent. The talent is just a bit inexperienced and is adjusting to a number of changes this season. They haven't yet been "coached up" in the way we were expecting.
It is taking a little more time than we would have liked. WIth nothing to play for in terms of post season play I can live with going through growing pains to lock things down even if it is at times frustrating.
Better days are ahead...
But when pressed Kelly then said this...
Most coaches scoff at recruiting-service rankings. Challenged about his five-star soliloquy, Kelly reacted with mock incredulity.
"They’re perfect," Kelly said of USC’s five-star, recruiting-service rankings. "It’s right there. They don’t make mistakes. It’s right there in black and white. They’ve got talent. They’re the most talented team in the Pac-10."
This is where things turn in my eyes.
I think we have all seen that recruiting service rankings are a bit iffy at best. Some kids absolutely pan out but others never live up to the hype. Talent is only relevant when it actually performs on the field.
Lane Kiffin then responded...
"I really wish that I had good enough players and we were good enough coaches that we could spend enough time counting how many four- and five-star players we had on each other’s rosters," Kiffin said Wednesday. "I don’t have time for that unfortunately."
His response is a bit over the top but I see where he is coming from. Who really has time to count star rankings? This is more of the media stirring things up but it also shows a little bit of the pressure that both staffs are facing with this weekends big game.
This has to be one of the only times that Lane Kiffin has said anything even close to controversial this season.
My attitude is kind of Meh. It makes for a nice post but there really isn't anything there...just noise.
No matter what the state of the program is right now USC still makes people turn their heads. Oregon is still considered the new kids on the block fighting for respect on the CFB landscape. Anyone outside the Pac-10 who discounts Oregon is foolish. Yes, they were owned by Ohio State in the Rose Bowl but every team has a bad game here and there.
This is a very good Oregon team coming to L.A. to play a USC team that is still going through fits and starts on Defense.
Both teams need this win for a myriad of reasons...this is just one of those episodes that comes with all the hype.
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This game needs to happen already
Drinking so much that you forget your name is like trying to cure cancer, it might not be possible, but you should never stop trying.
I like Chip spouting off, it is the easiest bulletin board material and will hopefully wake up the sleeping 5-4 stars players.
Oregon will have one hell of a time moving on the grass, and they will not have their electrifying Drunk Crowd. Unlike Hawaii that was the first game under new coaching this is the eighth game of the season and USC will be ready to pay back those little Duck Shits and their spouting Fans.
I love national championships it makes me feel superior to others, my whole place has USC stuff everywhere, it's painted red and gold, my car is the same colors my asscrack is bruin blue.
by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 28, 2010 8:16 AM PDT reply actions
Oh and another thing if they think playing fast after each play with no huddle, guess what Oregon Nimrods all USC has to do is have one or two guys come slowly back to line of scrimmage and they can control the umps.
I love national championships it makes me feel superior to others, my whole place has USC stuff everywhere, it's painted red and gold, my car is the same colors my asscrack is bruin blue.
by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 28, 2010 8:19 AM PDT reply actions
Boy,
why hasn’t any other team that of that before? Your ingenuity is unmatched. New Weasal, Erickson, Wulff, Dooley, et al. need to hire you to their staff STAT!
Well thank you Rose Bowl Loser
I love national championships it makes me feel superior to others, my whole place has USC stuff everywhere, it's painted red and gold, my car is the same colors my asscrack is bruin blue.
by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 28, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
A team that beat Ohio State...in Ohio State. With a freshman qb making his first road start.
Drinking so much that you forget your name is like trying to cure cancer, it might not be possible, but you should never stop trying.
Your missing the point, U--S--C owns the Rose bowl all the rest of the Pac-10 are just Posers or Ducks.
I love national championships it makes me feel superior to others, my whole place has USC stuff everywhere, it's painted red and gold, my car is the same colors my asscrack is bruin blue.
by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 28, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of bulletin board material......
Finally, USC DT Jurrell Casey just cut to the chase when speaking to ESPN Los Angeles: "They have a good running back and a good quarterback. Other than that, they’re really not that good," he said.
"Understanding is a virtue, hard to come by"
J. Airplane
If by living in the past you mean playing with the same exact o-line, WR's, RB, and arguably a better QB that worked your defense last year...
Normally I would agree with your comment, but it’s not often that teams pretty much return their entire offense from the prior year.
Not to mention that the guy...
making inflammatory comments was schooled last year. Gotta wonder what he’s thinking.
Actually Casey was arguably the best player for USC's defense last year
The problem was that he only had one tackle for loss.
Look, I'm glad you're enjoying your moment in the sun. It does feel good, don't it?
Just don’t think yourselves unbeatable. Anyone that saw how Ohio State embarrassed your awesomely offensive line knows you’re just playing dress-up.
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
I've actually asked legit
question in other posts trying to get an honest beat on USC. The problem with the pac right now is that all the teams are Jeckyll and Hyde. USC lost UW but turns around and kills Cal. The former is the worst offender. The only info out there, unfortunately, is garbage like pound the qb over and over and beat them into submission…but how? Overpower our oline??? I surmise. Can USC’s dline do that? That is the stuff I am looking for.
That game was more about Masoli being a bad pocket passer (tOSU did a great job of forcing him to stay in the pocket)
and Pryor having the best game of his life as much as the Buckeye’s D-line “embarrassing” our offense. It helps if you actually watch games.
Yah but where talking Oregon here Loco-------just as well be Siberia.
I love national championships it makes me feel superior to others, my whole place has USC stuff everywhere, it's painted red and gold, my car is the same colors my asscrack is bruin blue.
by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 28, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
A good running quarterback
There is no evidence that Thomas can beat anyone with his passing skills. Pound him hard, pound him repeatedly, penetrate and make him pay the price, then watch him become the little sophomore he really is.
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
Have you watched any Oregon games? Thomas is much more of passer than a runner.
Helps if you actually know what you are talking about when spouting off.
Hahahahahaha! Sure, give me all day and I'll get on that list too :-)
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
Here I will help you out
http://www.ncaa.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/ncaa-m-footbl-stats-index.html
I recommend reading twice a day, especially before posting.
take it easy...
"What have they figured out?" "NOTHING." Lane Kiffin
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
I gave it a gander
Looks like Barkley is 6th in passing efficiency, and Thomas is 18th. Thanks for pointing that out.
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by Joey Kaufman on Oct 28, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I am sorry but...
Barkley meet Kenny Rowe. Oh, wait, you’ve been introduced. Seriously though, do you guys really believe the stuff you spewing out? What team doesn’t want to pound the qb repeatedly. I think that is objective #2 outside of stopping the run. D coordinators keys to the game, “we are going to stop the run and get after the qb.” Genius!
If we put bowls of orange sauce all over Oregon's sideline
Will that scare the ducks.
Mmmmm, cripsy duck with orange sauce.
Haha... at least we won those delicious almonds
Now, let’s compare Rose Bowl records. Shall we?
USC: 33 Appearances, 24 Victories
Ducks: 5 Appearances, 1 Victory
One victory?! The uber-quackers? Masters of all webbed footballdom?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Quaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkk!!!!
Who in the Pac-10 has a better Rose Bowl record than the Ducks?
Practically everyone! Washington 14A/7W, Stanford 12A/5W,
UCLA 12A/5W, Cal 8A/2W
What other teams have just one win? The Coogs, Beavs and Devils!!!!
Quaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkk!!!!
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
Loco you are to harsh on the beaver-------oh I mean ducker
I love national championships it makes me feel superior to others, my whole place has USC stuff everywhere, it's painted red and gold, my car is the same colors my asscrack is bruin blue.
by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 28, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats what usually happens when we play the ducks in LA, but you never can tell maybe one or more are still alive.
I love national championships it makes me feel superior to others, my whole place has USC stuff everywhere, it's painted red and gold, my car is the same colors my asscrack is bruin blue.
by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 28, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yikes
Pound him hard, pound him repeatedly, penetrate and make him pay the price, then watch him become the little sophomore he really is.
You understand this is a football game, not a gang rape right?
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Not only that we will have Tar and Feather Crews to properly welcome fans and wayward players.
I love national championships it makes me feel superior to others, my whole place has USC stuff everywhere, it's painted red and gold, my car is the same colors my asscrack is bruin blue.
by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 30, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
The Ducks will lose...
and Kelly knows it. The excuse is locked and loaded. Lamichael James is going to get pounded and will have his own duck-style meltdown after coughing it up twice.
Our D will finish their plays, Monte knows that if they hit the ducks they become a turnover machine.
America hates the Ducks. Quaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack
meh…
Football season is here
U feeling Loco?
I thought Kiffin response was pitch perfect.
These pre-game press conference can get silly, with the writers trying to push buttons in order to get a memorable quote.
I got the impression that Kelly and Kiffin are in on the joke.
And Kiffin has a very dry and sardonic sense of humor, which is unusual for football coaches, who tend to lean toward one of two extremes: either the Pete Carroll/Lou Holtz enthusiasm (and yes, despite Holtz’s constant poor-mouthing of his own team and over-hyping his opponent, Holtz, like Carroll, was/is always energetic and animated); or Bill Parcells/Nick Saban miserableness.
Quack quack quac qua qa q the sound of dying drunk duck fans.
When was the last time you guys actually won a big game let alone a Rose Bowl.
I love national championships it makes me feel superior to others, my whole place has USC stuff everywhere, it's painted red and gold, my car is the same colors my asscrack is bruin blue.
by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 28, 2010 11:13 AM PDT reply actions
It was almost like Kelly was laying the groundwork for a less than stellar performance...
Like Les Miles did that year where before the season he said he wasn’t a favorite to play for the title because USC doesn’t play anybody.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Ck was so inflammatory...
OMG!!! Did he really say that. However, McDonald basically comes out and says he’s head hunting DT, Casey says that we’re not that good, and Barkley tweets that we’re Lesnar, but his little barb about recruiting services is fodder for the bulletin board. That should lather them up in a frenzy for the game. CK is making fun of our start….holy sh*t how dare him!!!
Inflamatory?
I think Kiff has a point. I can assure you that I’ve researched up a lot of total useless information on the internet…but this might even be beneath me. Consider that Kelly actually assigned some lacky in the Oregon athletic department to go back over the recruiting rankings of all the players on USC’s roster for the past 4 years and count how many were 4 and 5 star recruits. Did he do this to help Oregon win the game, or so he could have a talking point at the press conference? You tell me.
Kiffin was caught off guard…because he didn’t make the assinine move of reviewing the recruiting rankings of either teams players. What would expect him to say under those circumstances? If someone serves you a soft ball, you should hit it out of the park. Just say’in.
Actually...
go to this page and scroll down to the bottom on the left to find the Bald Face Truth archives from today. At the start of hour 3 John Canzano interviews CK and he explains his rationale for the comment. CK toys with the media and really could care less about it. He was responding to media saying that the talent level at USC is down. It is a very good 15 minute interview. Beside, a man that has counted to infinity…twice doesn’t need a lacky to count the 4 and 5 star recruits .
Let's Go Boys!!!
Let the pompous media keep sleeping on this squad; come sat time to go duck hunting!……………… FIGHT ON!!!!!
Sounds like CK is sand-bagging
Wonder how his #2 team feels about hearing their head coach expose their inferior talent disadvantage? Methinks CK is feeling the pressure. How many season can Oregon have a team within range of Phil Knight’s wet dream….a natl football championship, or even a Rose Bowl win….and choke against an underdog?
Chip is already making post-game press conference excuses….3 days early.
You can't put sanctions on the fkn endzone! Bowls are for salad!
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