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The Most obvious reason that Pete Carroll is departing USC...

And no it is not the NCAA investigation...

One of the things that people seem to miss in Pete Carroll's pending move to Seattle is also the most obvious...age.

Pete Carroll is 59-years old.

When he goes to the NFL he will be the third oldest coach behind Wade Phillips and Tom Caughlin. So with the NFL's current push towards a youth movement this is Pete Carroll's last best chance to deal with some unfinished business in the NFL.

Whether or not you think this is a good idea or whether or not you think he will do a good job, the fact remains that this is the last hurdle he wants to conquer in his career. I have a hard time reading or hearing that Carroll is making a mistake...

Star-divide

A mistake? Really?

Does anyone think that they would like it if anyone criticized their move to go to the next level?

You have to walk a few miles in a mans shoes before you can criticize him...and that is pretty hard to do.

When I changed jobs three years ago after being with the same company for 17 years the phone calls and emails I got from people trying to get me to change my mind were staggering. Many people who I considered friends turned on me...they wanted nothing to do with me because I went to a competitor. I turned down a similar opportunity a couple of years earlier so I knew when the opportunity came around again I had to take it...you only get a couple of shots at your own personal brass ring...

For me, it was time!

The fact is that move for me three years ago was a step up AND a rebuilding project. In my business if you are successful in one of the major markets like NYC you have hit the big time, that is a very small fraternity to be in...and it has worked out pretty good for me so far!

Pete Carroll is looking through the same looking glass, albeit at a much more high profile level.

Pete Carroll has been at USC for 9 years. He has brought a program that had floundered for 15+ years back to national prominence. The exposure, titles, awards and top recruiting classes that we all witnessed are all because of Pete Carroll.

But with all that comes a price.

As much as we all marveled at how Pete Carroll identified and meshed with his players the fact is his players were still kids and kids sometimes make poor choices. I am not talking about issues with the law and such...once the facts are in in regards to a legal matter a coach can simply kick a player off the team if the results are deemed to be negative. But with the draconian rules of the NCAA it makes it harder for a coach like Pete Carroll to monitor his players and players parents activities when it comes to players potentially taking extra benefits.

At a school like USC it is not uncommon to see many students driving high priced vehicles. Would anyone have given it a second thought if we saw a white kid driving a Range Rover? The reason it was a big deal with McKnight was because he was a black kid from the south who grew up with very little on the fringe of poverty whose story everyone knew...his driving the car of course would immediately draw questions...those questions are warranted.

That is why the rules are there.

As for Bush and his family I still contend that it is virtually impossible for the school to monitor the living arrangements of all of their athletes. I still believe in privacy...even if a family member is breaking the rules. It is a slippery slope when when we start following our players around to see who or their family is hanging out with. This is not Oral Roberts University where at one time they did follow the kids around when they went off campus.

It is clear that Pete Carroll simply got tired of having to worry about all the rules off the field when he was trying to get the team to focus on the rules on the field. If we are to believe the stories that the higher ups started making decisions without consulting Carroll the it was just a matter of time. I can't comment on the behind the scenes issues that PC may have had with Mike Garrett but it really should not surprise anyone. Garrett is an opportunist and when he lucked out in hiring Carroll after everyone else turned him down you knew when Pete got successful that Garrett was going to ride the wave of popularity.

Unfortunately there is not enough room in Heritage Hall for two egos of that magnitude.

I find it ironic that some of the issues that Pete Carroll went through are not dissimilar to some of the same issues that the University of Miami went through when they went on their run. Sure, we saw some of these types of things pop up at Oklahoma and Alabama but those two places are not like L.A. or Miami. There is a lot more money and a lot more star power in those two cities that are able to corrupt impressionable kids. I find it Ironic that SC attracted the hip-hop culture of Snoop Dogg just like the 'Caines attracted Luther Campbell.

Another thing that I find Ironic is that all of the major scandals that we have read about over the years have happened at the TOP programs in the sport. Oh sure, there are a few scandals here or there at some of the lesser schools but the big ones always come from the Major programs.

Of course the obvious question is then why don't we hear about these sorts of issues at ucla? They are in L.A. too right?

Well, ucla is NOT a major program...they are a regional program.They may recruit from the same pool of talent that SC does, but they have seldom got the same type of players that USC has over the years to make them a national power.

Maybe policing kids works for lesser programs, but come on, at places like South Bend, Columbus, Ann Arbor, Lincoln, Norman, Austin, Tallahassee, Gainsville or Tuscaloosa with all those boosters and community involvement it can be tough for impressionable young men to say no...especially if they come from disadvantaged backgrounds.

L.A. and Miami are a cut above that when to comes to college football simply because of their location and the trappings that surround the cities itself.

Pete Carroll saw the landscape and said its time.

Pete Carroll really couldn't accomplish much more than he already has. Yes, he had a chance to rack up a couple of more titles but the system is as much to blame as is PC in not getting it done on the field. I get it that there may be some people that are a lot more knowledgeable about CFB that I am. I get it that there are those that went to SC and saw a lot more games than I did during this run...but many of those people were not around for the bad years of the 80's and 90's. I may not have seen it first hand because I was out on the east coast but my dad would piss and moan all the time to me at the sub-par efforts of Tolner, Smith and JRob II. And don't get me started on Hackett!

I said it yesterday and I will say it again...

PETE CARROLL OWES US NOTHING!

I also said it before Plaschke wrote it yesterday but it is dead on. Pete Carroll paid us back more than we could ever imagine. I am happy for him if this is truly what he wants. He has that itch that he needs to scratch at the next level. We should champion and support him. We should shake his hand, slap him on the back and say thank you for all that he gave us.

One quick note on the haters from up north and across town. I laughed when I read that some were calling Pete Carroll Cowardly. I would quite simply say...pot meet kettle, look in the mirror, you know who you are.

This is the best chance they will ever have to stake their own claim in the Pac-10. They can say what they want but remember one thing...they have no excuses now. Big Bad Pete Carroll is gone, now is their chance...so show us what ya' got!

BTW...that THUD you heard was 25,000 people jumping off the USC bandwagon...

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I got an email from a friend in LA who said that if Carroll leaving means that she can upgrade her season tickets, she’s all for it ;)

And you’re right, the guy’s done enough. Whether or not there’s NCAA trouble on the horizon for football, it’s hard to begrudge him one last shot at the professional game.

by DC Trojan on Jan 9, 2010 7:00 AM PST reply actions  

Whut? Brother, no matter where you sit, EVERYONE’S seats have been DOWNGRADED.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 9, 2010 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

so.cal. and I had a little discussion a month ago about PC not looking healthy

You make an excellent point Paragon, if not now its never.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 9, 2010 7:51 AM PST reply actions  

Yep

Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 9, 2010 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Yah Loco I am now starting to feel this has all been in the making since Washington game.

Heck like Dallas said Pete and Tim seemed to be very close and what MG did might have sparked this whole thing last summer.

Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 9, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Very true, then with MG mouthing off that he was disappointed with the football team followed by the Joe McKnight debacle the decision became final.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 9, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Not just yesterday Snowman

so.cal, DFW, Paragon and I have been screaming about it since the Tim Floyd firing. Garrett is personally to blame for EVERYTHING.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 9, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

The Man has been at USC for 9 years and that is a long time for anyone, it doesn't bother me that he whats to move on.

Pete is a great guy and has given a lot to USC, things change in life and if you can’t accept that then to bad. Who really knows why he is contemplating the NFL it is his life not ours.

Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 9, 2010 7:52 AM PST reply actions  

Yes Paragon being at the same job for 10+ years makes it easy to move on.

I have worked for Trader Joes Co, for 15 years and to me it is time to move on, the place has changed so much. But I have given it all that I can, and know I would like to get more involved with coaching again. Pete has given a great deal to USC and not just coaching, personal time and charities I haven’t seen a more involved coach at USC. For the people that call him a coward that is BS, and that person is just plain Despicable and as I said I can’t believe he doesn’t get Sanctioned by SB Nation.

Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 9, 2010 8:10 AM PST reply actions  

Wow so.cal Trader Joe’s is like USC, a former local family enterprise that morphed into a national powerhouse. Like USC, ten years ago no one though about Trader Joe’s outside of California.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 9, 2010 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

It's also about control

PC has made it clear that the most important ingredient in his success at USC. The Joe McKnight incident and the problems with players being ineligible due to academic problems, the loss of guys like Burfict due to academics, and KO’s proclamations that he’s looking for “good students” that will stay all four years confirms the change in culture at USC.

I’ve said it over and over, this is not your Daddy’s USC, the recent athletic turmoil is all about Steve Sample’s “Project Stanford.” The USC Football coach is now facing academic requirements that are similar to the ones faced by Cal, Stanford, Northwestern, Notre Dame and even fUcla.

It is indeed the dawn of a new era. Soon there will be pro football in LA, brought to you by USC Trustee Ed Roski, and USC’s grip on LA’s football soul will end of natural causes. The fUcla pukes can celebrate all they want, but USC will continue to dominate them on the gridiron, an from now on in academics as well.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 9, 2010 8:10 AM PST reply actions  

I agree! Everything he did must be celebrated

There will never be another college football run like this. PC put USC back in the ranks of the elite and nobody should forget it. Anyone that dares to deride his accomplishments can only be called one thing… a fUcla puke.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 9, 2010 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

You know National Champs is nice but it really doesn't matter in Southern Cal, it has always been the Rose bowl.

To bad the the Rose Bowl gets tarnish at least 6 times a year, it is a great place but only after Dec. 31. They must really be happy that USC brought them so much Money to the area and community, that there present tenant will never match.

Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 9, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

The NC's are everything to the bandwagon fans

Good riddance!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 9, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

The Rose bowl game

AND the rose parade brings $400 mill to Pasadena

by Julio Nievas on Jan 9, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

woo hoo

Agree with just about everything written here, though I am hoping that UCLA will one day make the step from regional programto national one – we’ll see how that plays out. That being said, i have an enormous amount of respect for what Carroll has done and am ecstatic that he is moving on. As mentioned, the “cowardly” comments et al from the bruinsnation blog are sad but predictible. I personally hated Carroll in the “you’re waaay too good at this college football thing and it’s working against me.” Akin, perhaps, to what Federer must feel about Nadal and vice versa, respect for just how good your opponent is. Now that he’s moving on, I can me consoled that no matter USC gets, I can’t see them possibly doing a better job, and if I’m lucky, they’ll do terribly so the bruins can finally make a team of their own….

In summation, best of luck to a respected former opponent.

by balancedbruin on Jan 9, 2010 9:22 AM PST reply actions  

Well foxnewsbruin, you’ll be disappointed again because UCLA’s failures do not occur in inverse proportion to USC’s successes. Your problems are your own, yes you’ll get a few more star recruits, but so will every other Pac-10 team; but as far as the 5 Star guys are concerned the SEC and BIG-12 are the winners. Without Pete Carroll, the Mountain West is officially stronger than the Pac-10.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 9, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Oregon-USC-CAL

Probably have the best reputations in the Pac-10 right now. Everyone else is inconsistent.

by frak on Jan 9, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I just picture

a toddler wearing oversided adult boots, and a ucla shirt.

by frak on Jan 9, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Now you are making me crack up Frak, hey can you make that picture with MR (nestor)

Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 9, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

diapers are really useful...

Well I didn’t say I expected us to suddenly enter USC’s stratosphere, I’m merely saying it would’ve been a nearly impossible task with Carroll running his party. As any fan does, I am hoping for better things for my program and this might make those things come a bit easier.
2 other comments:
-I’m not foxnewsbruin
-Washington State is also a consistent team. (And I’d argue that Cal is the definition of an inconsistent one)

by balancedbruin on Jan 9, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d be surprised if a white kid wasn’t driving a Range Rover

Read me at www.conquestchronicles.com

by Joey Kaufman on Jan 9, 2010 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

Right

big diff between a Range and a Land.

by DFWTrojan on Jan 9, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

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