Thoughts on the Carroll Rumors
by Paragon SC on Jan 8, 2010 2:02 PM PST
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PrintI tend to take a wait and see approach with these sorts of things.
We have been through these sorts of rumors before but it really would not surprise me if this was the real deal...
This one just feels right.
With the staff turnover that SC has been through over the past few years. With the high level of expectations that we have become accustomed to and the pending NCAA storm on the horizon it would be the perfect time for him to go.
He has had a great run at USC.
I think that the impending NCAA issues that have yet to be handed down play a big role in this.No program is bullet proof regardless of what we think about the Reggie Bush situation. Sooner or later things just take their toll
And then there is this from Markazi.
There was a rift between Carroll and Garrett at the end of the season in the handling of McKnight; 1st time he felt blindsided by USC admin.
This should surprise no one!
We have seen how Garrett has treated his coaches in the past and it hasn't always been good. So, with all the issues going on with both the Football and Basketball programs Garrett may be hunkering down to protect USC and look out for USC and USC alone. Garrett was critical of the teams performance this past season. You could tell that Pete was not happy about McKnight. Anybody else notice how the whole McKnight situation got real quiet before McKnight announced his intention to go to the NFL earlier today.
Lets say that Pete is leaving...
There have been numerous fans that have been frustrated with Carroll since Norm Chow and Ed Oregeron moved on. They have been frustrated at some of Carroll's coaching moves, player moves and that the team has had a lack of discipline with losses to lesser teams. Pete Carroll is not going to change and if you look carefully at this team there is no guarantee that SC will be much better next season...couple that with the other issues and this is the perfect storm for him to leave.
If Pete Carroll thinks he will be happier or if he thinks he does not have the support of Garrett and Sample then he should go.
Why stay in a bad situation?
If he goes I could not be happier for him. This has always been his dream. I just can't badmouth a guy who did so much for this program who may want to move on.
Pete Carroll owes us NOTHING!
He has given us more than anyone could have expected for all the great games and awards.
Pete Carroll has done plenty for USC. He put us on a run that won't ever be matched in college football.
But nothing lasts forever and now may be the time.
Obviously, I will keep a close eye on this...
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Garrett really can't leave
USC is presently searching for a new president as Steven Sample is stepping down at the end of the year. So, the likelihood that the Garrett is canned while a search for a president is underway would appear somewhat odd.
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I dont know a ton about USC football
Lane Kiffin (doubt it), I am wondering if USC go for Utah’s Kyle Whittingham or TCU’s Gary Patterson. I doubt they will hire within since they had new hires. They could just snag Harbaugh from Stanford (a total guess)
I don’t see Harbaugh being picked. It would be a bit of a knee jerk reaction and it’s not clear how he’d do without Gerhart or similar anyway. He would bring back 3 yards and a cloud of dust. That’s not much.
Whittingham or Petersen from Boise State would seem much more likely.
I’d think Gruden would be a natural fit if you’re looking for a seamless transition from coach to coach. He’d bring youth and pro experience like Carroll did. Plus, he does a great job coaching when the cupboard is left full (see:Tampa Bay)
Has doesn’t have any significant college FB experience. He’ll be frustrated by all the restrictions.
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He would get the attention of the players thats for sure
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
I like Tedford better than Riley. Heck, I like anybody better than Riley!
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But Garrett has a hard on for Riley, so if you can take out Garrett for us then we will not go after Riley.
I think Garrett lexus is black got it.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
yes, but they are really not worth the paper they are written on
Unless you are Baylor who has Art Briles under a $5 million buy out
Could be Leach but we will have to get a couple of sheds or garages for practice field.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 2:17 PM PST reply actions
YES LEACH!!!!!
that woudl be great…. we could finally upgrade our offfense to what everyone in Collegee football is doing..!!!
Scoggins over Barkley in this case
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
why?
leachs quarterbacks dont run…. they are passers.. which is what barkeley is
I'm debating whether or not his system would fit....
I’m asking whether or not USC is going to hire a coach embroiled in a lawsuit with another university.
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
NO WAY!
Leach won’t be hired with a pending lawsuit in the balance. No way no how!
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
You watch Backdoor man
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Question?
Why would a football program, on the brink of possible sanctions, hire a coach who was just fired for allegedly mistreating a player? Not going to happen. I’ll take that bet all day long.
I thought Leach was mistreated at Texas Tech but I don’t see USC taking a chance on him.
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Thats all right it will be Jeff Tedford very much a local boy that he is.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Tedford?
I’m sure Cal will let him out of his contract to caoch the Trojans. No doubt. Who wouldn’t? I mean USC is the center of the football universe.
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
Cal is just as broke or more than SC, remember they took a school bus to play at Ucla.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
If Tedford is the next USC coach I'll mail you a 6 pack.
Not going to happen.
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
Ok it will be somebody that you don't pick
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
just as broke as Ucla
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
There isn't a more overrated coach in American than Jeff Tedford
I don’t want to see that nut anywhere near Heritage Hall
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Eh? Nut? Explain?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 8, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
He climbed trees and smoked weed up there.
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Oh come on. I held you Conquest Chronicle guys in high regard. Why you gotta go hattin on us Bears? Why are some of your posters posting like Nestor cronies?
In other words, Go Bears!
BTW: Was this whole Garett discord thing always there?
It seemed like the whole fiasco just came out into the open since the bball sanctions? Was he always not well liked? Also he hired Hackett right?
In other words, Go Bears!
Based on what he says to media, no.
But this is reality, so as an outsider I still think it’s possible… SC has money, great recruiting destination… the path to a NC gets a lot shorter at a big market school like that.
I personally don’t think he’d be a good fit but I don’t know, I didn’t want him back post-Erickson and he’s shut me up since then… what do I know?
I wasn’t suggesting him. It’s just that he’s my deal. Although him to USC would reduce the dealness.
In other words, Go Bears!
Downey boy we will welcome him back, hell I will maybe get free tickets
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
That would be one half-azz deal
kinda like a Happy Meal.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
Oh but remember we CHEAT
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
Yes I like Peterson too, he has done the best with no talent could be a long time coach.
But what will be his name over at Ucla blogs?
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah. I was just saying on CGB that the Harbaugh to Kansas thing was also supposed to be a “done deal.”
Snobby Chick - Senior Division
Dare you say that the weasel would leave dear nestor and the girls
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
So does this mean that Nestor and friends will call Mack Brown the new Cheater.
Or will it be Pelini or some other team that beats them all the time.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
So let me get this straight if we get GOD will he says that he cheats!
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
Of course the Almighty would be cheating, how can you say it’s an even field in recruiting if SC players are getting a free ticket to heaven?
(I’d make some crack about 72 virgins in Paradise but I can’t quite imagine that there are over 6000 virgins available at USC… hell, just for the incoming class you’d need nigh on 1500.)
Hell why we are at it maybe give Rick Patino a chance
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Or how about Bob Johnson
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
How about JOHN WOODEN he is bigger than god.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Ok young men this how we tie our shoes and if you need money or a car please get see Mrs Gilbert.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
I'm just going to throw this out there
My guess is that we go for another defensive minded head coach. And if discipline is what we are looking for, hc experience aside I think it would be awesome if we nabbed Dewayne Walker back if he doesnt follow Pete to the seahawks
Drinking so much that you forget your name is like trying to cure cancer, it might not be possible, but you should never stop trying.
Good point but given the Bruin’s raving over him I’d say he’s no USC HC material.
In other words, Go Bears!
Greatest fear
Garrett decides to bring in a KO type to instill “toughness and discipline” in the football program
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
Say what you will about that team
But the Bruins didn’t lose many games because their defense faltered when he was the DC, in fact they won a couple of important ones…sadly.
Drinking so much that you forget your name is like trying to cure cancer, it might not be possible, but you should never stop trying.
walker, not jimmy
The new coach has to be someone big, someone who’s been there, done that, SC ain’t no testing ground.
If Carroll is gone
Aaron Corp has to be having second thoughts about leaving for Richmond
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I want a coach who notices...
that some of his players are driving LUXURY SUVs up to the practice field gate.
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Hey I don't know if you are a chick or Dude that is Backdooring but maybe the new coach can hire you for Backdoor duty are car monitor>
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
I'm a woman.
Maybe backdoor OUR car monitor?
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
That was funny good one you can have both I will put in a word for you with Loco.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
I'll pass.
I don’t want some weed smoking loser Mexican touching me.
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I'll fix it.
I don’t want some weed smoking loser to touch me. I am not interested in Mexican men or women. That’s better.
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
A “winner” such as yourself belongs over at Wolf’s blog. By the way idiot, locoweed is not cannabis.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
Still whining.
I hate to break it to you, Mexican who can’t differentiate between OUR and ARE, but people are going to disagree with you in life. You took a shot at my screen name and I took a shot at yours. If you don’t like it then you can go to Wolfs Blog.
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry.
OUR and are ARE too different things. I was just clarifying.
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
What he means by the phrase Loco= local (la native) weed he is rooted here.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you for clarifying.
It is nice to see that some people ARE articulate enough to communicate their thoughts on here without taking “pot” shots at people they disagree with.
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
I am just a goof most of the time but I do have 40 years experience following USC .
But you should really listen to people Like Loco, Bix, DFW, DC, paragon and frak because long time on this blog. Just have a good take and don’t suck, where did I hear that before.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
no or
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
I suspected PC wasn't happy with how the McKnight situation was handled
But what is Garrett supposed to do? JMK’s driving around in a Land Rover, while not unusual at SC, not typical for a poor kid from Louisiana. And for the LAT reporter to witness PC talking to JMK while he sat in the driver’s seat?
And I suspect that Garrett wasn’t to happy with PC not noticing players driving around in $30,000 cars.
I get the feeling that PC is actually very close with the kids, and that he hates playing hall monitor. I don’t blame him, I think it would be a drag always have to look over the kids shoulders. Unfortunately, playing hall monitor is necessary, especially in a large market like L.A., where these Schenter and Louis Johnson type characters abound.
Great POINT!
I’m not saying PC is at fault for McKnight but someone has to be paying attention.
by BackdoorBarkley on Jan 8, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Some guy on ESPN said that MG isn't really on top of anything, now that is funny.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 3:07 PM PST reply actions
Except I think Chad Kreuter and MG might still be on speaking terms
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I saw him this morning then I flushed
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Ok so it's over and we will all know in 24 hrs, I wonder if MG will have a recorded message.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 3:29 PM PST reply actions
Chris Mannix is an idiot
These jokes get old fast:
Higher salary cap: USC or the NFL? -Chris “BC got robbed by crooked refs” Mannix
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Really I don't think PC will want to live in Seattle it is just not that appealing so it will have to be a whole lot of cash
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 4:06 PM PST reply actions
THE HOTTEST FOOTBALL COACH IN AMERICA
Face it people, less than 24 hours ago Nick Saban won the BCS National Championship, but who is everybody talking about? WHO IS DOMINATING THE HEADLINES?
PETE CARROLL, THAT’S WHO!
I only have three words: FIRE MIKE GARRETT!!!!!!!!!
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
Holy Crap! That's the magic number alright.
If it’s a five year deal he’s absolutely, positively gone then. NEEXT!
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
Wait who said 10
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Know I beg to differ about Petros knowing of Shyte
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
Ah the brinkster he knows all
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
This has to be a 48 hour demonstration of POWER
Pete Carroll wants Mike Garrett gone, this is pure COMPETITION, there is no other explanation. why? PC isn’t just about money, if he were he’d be out there endorsing car dealerships, chicken wings and lumber yards like the rest of the loser coaches out there. He’s already got more money than he’ll ever be able to spend; what’s he gonna do, give it to Brennan?
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
+1
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
Seattle Fans Hate Carroll
Stream Seattle’s AM 710 ESPN radio if you don’t believe me. There is a movement here among Seahawks fans to petition Paul Allen to please NOT hire PC. HE IS HATED HERE. The Seahawks fans and Seattle media will undermine him from day one. This move is suicidal.
Shy do they hate him?
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 8, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
UW and Washington State Fans
Make up 9 out of every 10 Seahawks fans and they really hate USC, Carroll, and many things southern Californian. I’ve heard Washingtonians blame the influx of southern Californians moving to the Pacific NW for everything from the increase of coffee prices at Starbucks to the hangnail on their little toe. I drive around with custom TROJANS license plates, so I get my fill of the anti-SoCal stuff.
BUT as stated elsewhere on CC, if Pete takes the Seahawks deep in the playoffs, he will be a hero and everyone here will swear he was the Huskies coach before Sark.
Maybe Allen wants to use him in a series of "The Real PC" versus Mac commercials,
he threw Mora out like he was Vista so why not?
“PC 7 with seven straight Pac-10 Championships, a winner just like Windows 7!”
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
My wife is a Microsoft lifer
And we have been laughing our asses off at this . . . awesome one Loco!
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