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After 18 Month Investigation, O.J. Mayo's Stay at USC Beginning to Show Nasty Side Effects

Presently, USC basketball is 10-4 overall, 2-0 in the Pac-10 conference, and holds an eight game winning streak. But as of today, none of that truly matters, as the university administration, led by athletic director Mike Gerrett, has self imposed sanctions on the basketball program that include a ban on postseason play for the 2009-2010 season, thus eliminating the Trojans' hopes for a birth in the Big Dance or even the NIT come March. Such disappointment however is life for a USC hoops fan.

Here is the Official release from the school...(Emphasis added - There is also a video of Garrett's statement as well)

The University of Southern California today announced that it has implemented self-imposed sanctions on its men's basketball program for violating NCAA rules.

The sanctions are a result of a University investigation that found NCAA rules violations related to O.J. Mayo, who played for the USC's men's basketball team during the 2007-2008 season.

"USC takes allegations of NCAA rules violations very seriously. When allegations were made regarding our men's basketball program, we immediately began an investigation and worked closely with the NCAA and the Pac-10 in an attempt to ascertain the truth," said USC Athletic Director Mike Garrett. "When we've done something wrong, we have an obligation to do something about it and that is exactly what we are doing here."

The self-imposed sanctions for the men's basketball program include a one-year ban on post-season competition following the 2009-2010 regular season, including the Pac-10 Conference basketball tournament; a reduction of one scholarship for the 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 academic years; a reduction by one of the number of coaches permitted to engage in off-campus recruiting activities during the summer of 2010, and a reduction in the total number of recruiting days by twenty days (from 130 to 110) for the 2010-2011 academic year.

In addition, because of Mayo's involvement with Rodney Guillory, whom under NCAA rules became a USC booster due to his role in Mayo's recruitment, USC will vacate all wins during the 2007-2008 regular season, which was when Mayo competed while ineligible. USC will also return to the NCAA the money it received through the Pac-10 Conference for its participation in the 2008 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship Tournament.

These self-imposed sanctions impact only the men's basketball program, and do not affect any other program.

While the news is incredibly frustrating, especially in light of the team's recent performance, it really comes as no surprise. After a long, drawn-out 18 month investigation, something was going to come out of it this whole mess, and on January 3rd, it did.

Star-divide

ESPN Outside the Lines reported nearly two years ago that Mayo had received "extra benefits" from Rodney Guillory during his freshman season at USC. However, their story has never fully been proven, and even now, Garrett and USC have failed to acknowledge the validity of the story and provide any details regarding what the violations were in the first place. Yet, the likelihood that a nationally accepted news organization such as ESPN fabricates a completely inaccurate story seems incredibly unlikely.

Were ESPN and Louis Johnson entirely accurate in their accounts? We really don't know and until Garrett tells us exactly what ‘SC is being sanctioned for than we may never know. But it has been clear for some time that something wasn't right with the basketball program. People don't generally come out of thin air and make blatant accusations about players receiving $1,000 in cash. They may not be entirely honest in their allegations, but there is always an element of truth in what they're saying.

Honestly, did any reasonable person believe that O.J. Mayo upheld a squeaky clean image and was 100% innocent of all chargers?

So the idea that USC is being punished for wrongdoings is not incredibly difficult for us to wrap our minds around. The bigger questions remaining are why were these violations able to be committed in the first place and why did it take an extraordinary amount of time for the university to conclude its investigation.

Popular sentiment right now suggests that Garrett should be the one to shoulder much of the blame. While it may be soon to jump to conclusions regarding Garrett's responsibility in this whole mess, the complaints are certainly more than reasonable. During his address, Garrett referenced Rodney Guillory in regards to his "bringing" O.J. Mayo to USC. But as it has been stated on several occasions, Garrett knew exactly who Guillory was from his prior interactions with the athletic department at ‘SC. This was the exact same Guillory, who was responsible in the NCAA's suspension of former USC basketball player Jeff Trepagnier for one-third of the 2000-2001 season after Guillory had purchased airfare for him. So with such prior knowledge why did he allow Guillory become a USC booster and let Tim Floyd allow him access to the basketball offices? In doing so, Garrett turned a blind eye and allowed the infractions to take place that were sure to come. Bad Apples like Guillory don't change. They do not become benevolent over night. They are in it for one thing and one thing only.

But assuming Garrett knew what was going on, why then did it take him and administrators 18 months to come to this conclusion? Wouldn't such violations have been obvious almost immediately? I don't have an answer for you. I don't work in the USC athletic department or have inside access. Thus, I have no idea what why Garrett and others acted they way they did in the post-Louis Johnson allegations period.

But I can tell you one thing: something doesn't smell right. Judging by the duration of the investigation, I get the sense, that this was some preemptive move by USC to mollify the NCAA while it prepares to make its ruling regarding the status of the basketball program. There has to be some horse trading going on here, as Garrett and company are obviously hoping that the NCAA will grant favor toward them for taking the initiative in issuing these sanctions.

But if USC is not working collaboratively with the NCAA and does not have some sort of agreement in place, this will end up reflecting badly on Garrett, the athletic department, and the school as a whole. To have USC go ahead and impose sanctions and then not have them be recognized by the NCAA will only provide a perfect example of how inept the athletic department is and how they its trying to manipulate the NCAA.

As of right now, the best thing we can hope for is that Garrett does have some deal with the NCAA in place that makes these current sanctions the worst of what is yet to come. If they truly are the biggest hammer that is to drop, then Kevin O'Neill and company appear to be in pretty good shape.

No, this current team won't have the opportunity to earn a postseason bid (a real tragedy for the seniors, Mike Gerrity, Marcus Johnson, and Dwight Lewis), but the future of the basketball program appears to be just fine, as it will theoretically be eligible for postseason play next season. As a result, it's incredibly unlikely that any players attempt to transfer for that would require them to sit out an entire year. It's even more unlikely that the recruits in the highly-regarded 2010 recruiting class attempt to opt out of their letters of intent. They knew what they signed up for, and heck, they'll be competing for a postseason birth as freshman anyway. As for the loss of a scholarship, in all reality, it means a player such as Kasey Cunningham, Romeo Miller, or Donte Smith, will have to start paying tuition or leave the school. It's unfortunate, but in terms of the program's future, it means very little.

 

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The heck with FB they will always recover, BB never gets a break at USC.

I don’t know why they bother to have Men’s team anymore if they are going to pull crap like this. Mayo when that SOB broke Dannys jaw I knew he was bad news, and that team never did anything. TF and Garrett I have no used for them other than flushing their scent down the toilet.
Like I said I will never follow SC FB again as long as MG is A D

.SAM GILBERT IS COMING TO TAKE BACK THE BOOK OF CHEATING!

by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 3, 2010 3:43 PM PST reply actions  

I read

that USC most likely negotiated with the NCAA over how and which types of penalties would be enough to put the Mayo scandal behind us. They almost certainly did that which means that it would have happened one way or another.

by frak on Jan 3, 2010 3:57 PM PST reply actions  

LA Times

“I’m sure they negotiated with the NCAA to ensure these penalties were enough,” attorney Salerno said.

Anthony Salerno- Louis Johnson Lawyer

by frak on Jan 3, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree

the sanctions scream NCAA approval.

by DFWTrojan on Jan 3, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

How does Guillory qualify as a booster?

I guess that’s my biggest question. He was on the payroll of New Era sports management. So, how is he a booster. Anyone want to dig into the NCAA rules in question and translate?

With the complexity and severity of the sanctions, they certainly reflect an agreement with the NCAA. In a sense, this vindicates USC in that it should prove that no coaches or admin were directly involved in any wrongdoing, e.g., Tim Floyd paying Johnson. If Guillory qualifies as a booster, then we had to take a hit. Might as well absorb it this season. It’s not like we had a Final Four team.

But, we certainly have a capable PacX championship team. So, hopefully the guys can just use this extra motivation to win conference. I’m please to get this behing us in KO’s first season.

I bet there is more news to come soon re: football. USC is obviously working closely with the NCAA. Again, investigations continue to show that no coaches or admin were involved in the wrongdoing directly. Just one big oversight in Rodney Guillory. I hope that USC is now free to sue Guillory. And, it’s still a shame that Garrett gave away our recruiting class, as they could have easily digested this postseason ban as a young team.

Dwight, MJ, Gerrity, win the PacX regular season and make a statement to the world.

by DFWTrojan on Jan 3, 2010 4:01 PM PST reply actions  

Oh, he’d qualify as my Aunt Panchita right now as long as the NCAA leaves the football program alone.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 3, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

How is Tia Panchita doing these days anyway?

by DC Trojan on Jan 3, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

She’s still making those frijoles the way you’re supposed to amigo, with lard!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 3, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s the spirit. Sometimes the old ways really are the best.

by DC Trojan on Jan 3, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s nothing more disgusting than the flavor of Crisco.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 3, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Crisco is the secret ingredient for empanadas!

My sisters tried using real butter for a while???? (didn’t have the stomach to tell them- do the way Gramma Lita did) As a Chileno? Would you ?

I like my flour torts the same way- with Crisco.

(hint to all you non-Latinos: never tell a woman you like your grandmas cooking better than theirs. It’s just not cool, even if they’re your sister. Especially when you’re drunk of sauced? Why? Tell me something. . .how’s your body’s tolerance to arsenic? Yeah. .. . . .think about that?)

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 4, 2010 3:08 AM PST up reply actions  

No amigo, dead wrong on this. Empanadas with Crisco have that “donut” taste in the crust. Before they invented Crisco grandma Lita was using… you guessed it, lard and butter. That said Crisco makes baking easier! From Wikipedia:

Crisco, a popular brand in the USA, was first produced in 1911. In Ireland and the UK Cookeen is a popular brand. While similar to animal derived shortening such as butter or lard, it is cheaper to produce; originally, lard was far cheaper and edible oils came at a higher cost. Shortening also needs no refrigeration, which further lowers its costs and increases its convenience, especially for people who live in countries without refrigeration. As a substitute for butter, it can lengthen the shelf life of baked goods and other foods. With these advantages, vegetable shortening gained popularity, as food production became increasingly industrialized and manufacturers sought low-cost raw materials. Vast government-financed surpluses of cottonseed oil, corn oil, and soy beans helped found a market in low-cost vegetable shortening.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 4, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Mantequilla in Chile is different for cooking than it is in the US

Mantequilla empanadas cannot possibly be made in Los Gatos, CA. Lemme tell you. Loco- I WAS RAISED ON EMPANADAS!!! I only discovered tortillas when I came to this country.

My Abo and Gramma Lita made it with Crisco here. The butter makes them too much like croissants. And I don’t like croissants like I love and adore empanadas. I’ll give you your tortillas, please stay away from my empanadas! Thank you.

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 4, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Crisco- you're right. It's not

My sister just corrected me. She said our family uses leaf lard (made from pork). Butter and Crisco are never used. I asked about all the Crisco tubs I’d see under the counter and my sister said- “Mama would buy those simply to store bacon fat in.” ?? (we have a weird family, Loco)

That’s why I thought it was Crisco. We use a leaf-lard/butter combo- never JUST butter. At worst, my sister said- Crisco would be used and butter in direct portion (those are the ones that are much too flaky for me, I like ’em substantial that hold papas y frutas well. The plain non-stuffed ones we use in Chile is for sopa. Dropped right smack dab in the center of that bad boy. Crunch, crunch, slop!

Boy do I feel weird? (hey, bacon fat in Crisco tubs?? who’da thunk. I was always outside playing ‘army’, paint-ball, or lighting something on fire??)

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 4, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Storing bacon fat doesn’t seem that odd to me, but then I grew up in a house with some traditional Scottish “cooking” that has become healthier as we’ve spent more time in the US. My favorite thing when I was a kid was on days like Christmas where we’d have the full fry-up for breakfast where the eggs and the bread were fried in the bacon fat. It makes my arteries creak just to think about it, but it was good. These days if I’m very lucky I can sneak a bacon roll under the radar.

by DC Trojan on Jan 4, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Wrong Forum Smiley Here

please move to the CulinaryChronicles.com . :)

by DFWTrojan on Jan 4, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

At church rummage sales

My mom would spend money on ‘used’ Crisco tubs, somewhat decorated by the seller(s) and she would use these used, artsy-fartsy plastic/tin? jars for STORING BACON FAT? That doesn’t seem entirely bat-shit crazy and odd?

For me, when my sister told me this:
1. Used kitchen crap? Like we couldn’t afford to buy our own Crisco, use it ourselves, THEN store the fat?

2. These containers were ‘decoupaged’ or whatever? What the frick is THAT?

Everything my sister told me about this matter seems strange. I love my mama and family but THIS has just kind of freaked me out. We were poor from time to time, (my dad’s businesses hit some record lows, then hit some astronomical highs back in the day. . . . .but USED CRISCO containers. . . . .??. . . . . .that kinda takes the cake for me??)

Strrrrrrrrrr-aaaaaaaaaaange?

btw: mmmmm-mmmm, DC- I can’t tell you how much I love that deep-fried bread in bacon fat for breakfast. As a teen, I attended this soccer invitational in Victoria, BC called- ‘The Gordon Head Soccer Tournament’. The family I stayed with served this for breakfast. I think their family had Scottish-heritage, but living in on Victoria Island due to the fact that their father was in the RAF/surgeon. That bread is better than French toast. . . . I’ll tell you that much. (i never was partial to scrambled eggs OR scrambled-eggish-type things. . . nor anything of the sort. now poached or soft-boiled eggs. . . . .THAT’S A PARTY!!!!)

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 5, 2010 1:55 AM PST up reply actions  

It was waste not wont not in the old days, everyone saved the bacon grease! I can’t imagine a better use for an empty Crisco tub; they also put empty coffee cans to good use in the garden for planting herbs.

BTW, you misinterpreted what I said; my own abuela made empanadas (and pan dulce) with lard! She added a bit of butter just to loosen up the shortening, it was a Mexico City thing because of the altitude. You and your Sis are correct that you can’t make empanadas with just butter, they won’t stay together and the filling would leak out. The less butter, the harder the crust.

All lard is made from pork, beef fat is called tallow and used to be the secret ingredient in McDonald’s fries back in the day. Yep, lard was the secret to a happy life, haha!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 5, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

My mother grew up in a Italian family of 13 and she saved bacon grease.

The fact that she grew up during the depression is probably why a cheap recycled cooking oil. I remember her telling that Pizza to their family was hard bread and tomato sause and if they were lucky they got cheese.

Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 5, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha! You’re Italian? Benissimo!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 5, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Yah dad is Irish-German, but moms all Wop.

My grandparents came to this country in 1901 name was Richio and change by ellis island personnel to Richy. My Dads grand father was in the Battle of Gettysburg, I don’t have any Idea about my German grand mother. Although grandma Kelley made one heck of a dumpling and homemade Rhubarb Pie and Potato Chips.

Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 5, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's the icky part

As a boy, I would make toast- but when it came to the ‘ends’ of a loaf of bread. . . . .?

Okay- because the butts of the bread were thick and kinda “substantial”, what I would do is (now that i know what ‘leaf-lard’ was in my mama’s kitchen- it is wrapped in this flaky-aluminum foil with this waxy-paper layer, well . . . .) when I’d toast these ends of bread, because butter just didn’t do the trick? I’d spread (what I now know of as ‘leaf-lard’) a thin coating of this on the toast AND THEN LAYER THE FUCK OUTTA IT WITH A TOPPING OF NUTELLA SPREAD! Gobs and gobs of it!

That toast is the BOMB! I loved it and now that I think of it? Miss it so dearly. Like, a missing link to my youth? I love visiting my sister. She’s got me on the Way-Back-Machine!

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 5, 2010 3:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh shit! I'm busted.

My sister just told me this:

My mom would throw out (prolly A LOT OF IT TOO!) packages of the leaf-lard because she thought they we’re ‘moldy’ or that ants got to it. My family never knew I’d use it on toast! I never told anybody? I kinda knew that stuff was a little expensive or that my mom would make special trips to San Francisco just to get it, but. . . . . I thought it was like gourmet butter or something. It was good on toast, but. . . .I guess crumbs of toasted bread would look like the shit was contaminated or something.

Poor mama. (aye, pobre de mi?) I’m gonna catch major shit for this. This sister of mine is a Libra like me. She’s a tattle-taler! Fuck! I’ma gonna Mike-garrett this one too! Go WAY ON THE DOWN LOW from my mama. She’ll whack me upside the head for this, for sure!!!! Damn you, Loco! (you and DC! you and DC!!!!!!)

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 5, 2010 3:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Not icky at all!

Leaf lard on bread was a staple in many homes.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 5, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

This is living fat!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 5, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

THAT'S INSANITY!

RIGHT THERE ^ ^ ^

Total insanity!!!! Geeze, I’d be way busted for something like THAT! I was so “inch-eye-private-eye” about it, Loco. It was just a thin layer AND THEN shit loads of Nutella. Wow, I’m having a heart-attack just looking at that.

Have you ever eaten what DC’s talking about. Just plain bread (not some fancy panini, sourdough, or baguette- although the family that prepared it for me, used Hawaiin-sweet bread. That yellow fluffy mound of goodness!) and just plop that puppy in hot (not smoking) bacon fat, like 2-inches deep of it- in a frying pan. Let it get all brown and bubbly, bring it out with a fork and dry it on some paper towels. Let it cool just a bit. . . . .BLAMMO! That’s a breakfast. A little Earl Gray, a soft-boiled egg (i skipped the salted tomato, hated them at the time. love ’em like a rock, right now though).

Epic-ness!

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 5, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow those are killer foods but lets talk about white bread and butter + cinnamon

Oh Bix when my mom would go visit my uncle in Walnut Creek she would always bring back loafs of Parisian Sour Dough bread oh the crust.

Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 5, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yah Guillory was with Mayo for 3 years before USC, so I see it is all about one and done Money for Ncaa.

What didn’t they make enough money on Mayo, one and dones Suck

Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 3, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I just feel sick to my stomach about this

This kind of thing, this type of action just makes me feel a little ashamed to be a Trojan. This team deserves a lot better I understand why, and I understand the timing but it still seems like such a weak willed action to me.

by Laughing Stock on Jan 3, 2010 5:57 PM PST reply actions  

Not quite

I was a freshman at USC in Floyd’s second year and I’ll be graduating this May. Basically I didn’t follow SC sports very closely until I decided to apply to USC so I became a fan basically 2003-2004. I remember the whole Majerus mess though, and how poorly handled the whole thing was. So I missed the Bibby era by a couple of years.

Whatever, I’m an SC hoops fan for life through and through. It was so much fun watching that awesome back court of Gabe Pruitt, Lodrick Stewart, and Nick Young. I’ll never forget that win over Texas where Daniel Hackett got the call to defend Kevin Durant and it worked because it freed up everyone else to lock down the rest of the Longhorn’s team. And I have great memories of watching OJ Mayo play too, I mean who could forget him and Davon leading the Trojans to a win over #4 UCLA after starting conference play 1-3? And last year… Marcus Johnson dunk at the Cal game is still probably the most athletic thing I’ve ever personally seen in my life and that Pac 10 tournament run was just short of miraculous.

Its too bad that so many other SC fans can’t wake up and see what an awesome run the program has had and the number of really great games, win or lose, that USC has been a part of in recent history. I mean I could start listing each individual game, but that would easily take up an entire paragraph so I’ll spare everyone their time. Its frustrating to have really great players and teams full of personality that get little to no recognition. In addition to the players mentioned above who could forget about Desmon Farmar, the Craven twins, Taj Gibson, DeMar DeRozan, and the number of really cool players still on the roster?

This news is just so disappointing.

by Laughing Stock on Jan 3, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, but it could have been worse

if they had proof that Floyd paid Johnson, it could have been much worse. nothing in the NCAA world seems fair or rationale. let’s just swallow this one year pill and get on with it.

big question, will the guys be extra-motivated to win the regular season, or will they play with broken hearts? they knew something was up, so no one should really be shocked though.

by DFWTrojan on Jan 3, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

These guys are going to go nuts! They’re going to tear it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FIGHT ON TROJAN HOOPSTERS!!!!!!!!!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 3, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

FIGHT ON USC HOOPS!

I’m going to have to write a letter to the editor for the DT.

by Laughing Stock on Jan 3, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Believe it or not?

No comment. (I’ma gonna ‘mike-garrett’ this one. and . . . . .i’m captain verbose?)

I’m with LS on this: Fight On USC Hoops! Give ’em HELL this year ANYWAY!

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 4, 2010 3:14 AM PST reply actions  

What's the general consensus

You either believe that Coach Floyd gave $1000 to Guillory or you don’t. That seems to be one of the major issues here. Floyd denied that he did just recently. I wonder what his comments are going to be now that he is removed from the program. It would be nice to have more details of the NCAA violations that USC committed.

by frak on Jan 4, 2010 7:01 AM PST reply actions  

Floyd is innocent

I believe that if USC had evidence of direct benefits from coaches, the sanctions would have been much more severe.

by DFWTrojan on Jan 4, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Innocent

Until Garrett or the NCAA provides proof or makes determinations of guilt for Coach Floyd in that supposed $1K cash dealio? My instincts keep me on Floyd’s side.

Frak’s on it! It’s only the money that tethers Floyd in all this, as the Guillory issue (as DFW/Para point out) goes back to Garrett and compliance.

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 5, 2010 2:15 AM PST up reply actions  

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