Kiffin Truths
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As a neutral observer of this situation I find the hypocrisy and outrage to be hilarious. I love all the media members and fans who just don't seem to get what big time college football is. Going on to various blogs around SBN, I loved all the fans who were calling Kiffin a weasel and a dirt bag etc, I also loved how outraged the Tennessee community and administration is. Hear are some realities that people that people don't want to admit about the Kiffin situation and college football.
There are two type of coaching personalities that most coaches fit in. They are a Type A personality and a Type B personality. A Type A personality is somebody who is highly driven, motivated and intense and is extremely ambitious. Type B (most of society) personalities are guys who are content and happy in life and just are not as driven as Type A. Basically they don't have unhealthy ambition and drive.They are not many type of people like that in our society and in the coaching ranks. These people always look for the next challenge and are never satisfied. The best coaches today in the country are these type of guys. Pete Carroll, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer and Brian Kelly are all Type A. These guys always want more and are never satisfied. Thats why Pete Carroll left 'SC. It always bothered him that he was considered an NFL failure. 'Bama fans if you think Saban will stay forever at 'Bama you are delusional. He will leave, not tomorrow, not next year but in the next 10 years most likely and try the NFL again or go somewhere else. He is just that type of guy.
For people bashing USC they need realize to that USC was backed into a corner. Kiffin wasn't their first or second or third choice. They had to make a move and in my opinion its a great movie for USC. USC football is a business and they have to protect themselves just like Tennessee, OU, Texas, etc do.
I hate how Tennessee people are upset that USC stole Kiffin from them or Kiffin left. Grow up Tennessee. This is big boy football and don't be surprised or upset. If you want to play big boy football those are the rules. You steal 'Bama recruits somebody steal's your coach. You steal other program's coordinators 'SC takes your coach. Thats the game. If you want to be on Mount Rushmore those are the rules and deal with it. The funny part is that they will most likely steal Will Muschamp from Texas and then all Tennessee fans will be partying in the streets and buying "Boom Motherf***er" shirts instead of pissing on Kiffin shirts. Pathetic and hypocritical. If you want to be considered big time this is the way it works. You guys will steal somebody else and the world will move on. Get a grip and understand that this is a business. If you don't like it go be Tennesse Tech or Georgia Southern. Its the game. Don't cry about it you will do the same thing.
Now my favorite line coming out of the media is "But, but what about the children?' "Somebody please think of the children?" We send 18 year old kids to Iraq, I think pampered football players will be okay without their head coach. They will get experience that non of their other friends will ever see. They get free food, free clothes and a free education. I think they can handle their coach bailing on them. Besides a coach shouldn't be THE reason that you come to a school. He should be a factor but not everything. If you came to Tennessee solely because of the coach than that's a YOU problem not a Kiffin problem.
For people saying that the guy can't coach, you don't know what you are talking about. Just look at his wife, the guy can close. Even if he can't coach he has hired great assistants for him. Monte Kiffin and Norm Chow can do it for him. The guy has the "it" factor and is going to do a great job at USC. He turned a pathetic Tennessee team into a 7-5 team and gave Alabama its toughest test of the entire season. If he didn't have one of the worst quarterbacks in the SEC he probably beats them by two touchdowns. He gave Auburn, Florida, Alabama all they could handle. His team destroyed Georgia. He can coach.
For people saying "what has he ever done?" Let me explain. Nike gave LeBron a 90 million dollar shoe contract before he ever played an NBA game. Kiffin has an "it" quality. Look at his wife, Dad, and how he recruits. He has that "it" quality and can coach. Good companies and corporations hire great people before you ever heard of them. That's the reality of life. Most people have never heard of these "great assistants" before they ever become your "great assistants." Anybody ever heard of Jim McElwain before he was hired at Alabama? No. Now he is 27-2 as an offensive coordinator. Nobody new of Will Muschamp before Saban hired him.
Great hire 'SC the King is not dead.
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Thanks for the props Phenon
Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 13, 2010 6:24 PM PST reply actions
Hate to call you out but...
This is almost word for word Cowherd’s rant from this morning.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
I said the same thing myself...
I don’t normally get to listen to CC but today I was able to catch him on my way into work
regardless it is still correct.
The fact that A is the only driven one because i was rated A-D when tested in management.
But I am a different kind of coach and not the norm, I can get it done with hype and knowledge and on a very personal level also.
Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 13, 2010 6:46 PM PST reply actions
from studying personality types in business school
People with more extroverted, aggressive ‘Type A’ personalities aren’t necessarily better at certain things, they’re just more likely to be drawn to them. So although the majority of CEOs or head coaches or what-have-you might have a certain type of personality, it doesn’t necessarily make them better than those that do not. So although less than 1% of CEOs in the US share my personal personality type, the few who do are just as good on average as the others. Same goes with coaches, I’m sure.
I guess this is my problem
These people always look for the next challenge and are never satisfied.
Kiffin sure starts a lot of challenges. Problem is, he never seems to finish them.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
Somewhat off-based I think
He never got to finish the Oakland deal because Al Davis is an incompetent moron. He never finished the Tennessee rebuilding project because the ‘SC opportunity came up and it’s been his dream job. So there are really only two circumstances of him not finishing those “challenges.”
--Conquest Chronicles, SBNation's USC Trojans blog
by Joey Kaufman on Jan 13, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
I think I was a bit unfair there because I just don’t like the guy.
He’ll recruit well. We’ll see how that translates on the field. I have my doubts. Then again, obviously, failure would be just dandy with me.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
You don't like the guy, do you even know the guy or had a conversation with the man.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 14, 2010 7:27 AM PST up reply actions
What actions did he take to you, who the heck are you anyway?
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 14, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
And yes I know you run the Quack blog, I just don't understand why you hate someone you don't even know.
Maybe you should step back and make your statement after next years game, now make sure you get tickets and come to LA. This way you can actually make an appointment to talk to Lane and see who he is, then your statement will be valid.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 14, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
Whe do they hate him? FEAR
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 14, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
The Big Reaction from Rivals
is nervous anxiety. The Kiff era begins another chapter of the SC dynasty.
Any specific actions that bother you, Quack? Perhaps, you have been too influenced by Internet stories from the MSM? Don’t believe everything you read. We know Kiff, and you have a gross misperception of him. You’ll learn the hard way.
Yes and he improved the Raiders win total, improved the offense from 32 to 16th and had the players playing at a higher level. But most importantly he tried to stop the CRAZY MAN from drafting Jamarcus and look how that turned out. I don’t think anyone can criticize Lane for what happened in Oakland, they have had what 6 or 7 coaches in the last 10 years, it is utter insanity up there.
Good points gnossos
Kiff was dead set against drafting Jamarcus Russell and raised enough cane about it to get under Al’s skin. When Russell proved to be a bust the Old Man blamed Kiff instead of himself. Typical Al Davis.
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by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 13, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
And my comments are coming from a former L A Raiders season ticket holder who has lost all respect for Al and what he’s done since he moved back to Oakland.
Lifelong Raiders' Fan
but, Al lost me when he benched Marcus Allen. I still try to watch all their games, and I became a Vols fan last season.
There is no doubt to the close observer than Lane significantly improved both teams.
Joey agree but I wouldn't call Al a moron, thats not his problem, he is just getting old.
Even Jerry buss is having problems at his age and thats why he lets his kids do 80% of the work, for Al that hasn’t happen. Also Al calling Lane a liar is why off base, since it was Alvin who Dogged on the city of Irwindale and took their money.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 14, 2010 7:33 AM PST up reply actions
the most idiotic post I have read in a while
to say that he’s a great coach because he has a hot wife and slashes and burns is dumb. To say the kids can take it because their poorer counter parts are in Iraq is lunacy. the reality is that Kiffin will burn SC to the ground in several years. there is historical proof of that fact, and soon, “’y’all” will be crying for justice and wonder when the world had gone wrong. if you don’t believe Kiffin is a weasel, then you are naive, living up to – of course – a typical, fair weathered SC fan.
good luck.
HEY WAIT A MINUTE
THERE’S ONLY ONE WEASEL IN TOWN!
by Julio Nievas on Jan 13, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Funny when someone
calls someone else a lunatic and then writes this “the reality is that Kiffin will burn SC to the ground in several years.” Lane had a lot of success at USC. Honestly I don’t think he has enough seasons in the book to have any history of what he can or can’t do in the long term. By the way, the only people that were burning down Knoxville last night were Vol fans.
he burned Al Davis and he skipped out on UT
and you want long term evidence to prove that he’s NOT a weasel?
Okay.
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 13, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
He "skipped out on UT"
for his dream job.
Also, Oakland had been burning long before he got there and anyone taking the side of Al Davis at any time in an argument of “sanity” is not on solid ground.
Take off your rose tinted glasses
Lane burned Al? You’ve got it ass backwards, since 1995 he has had 8 coaches with the longest tenure being that of Jon Gruden who lasted 3 seasons. The Raiders were founded in 1959 and to the present there have been a total of 15 coaches, (do the math) Al has burned through coaches like Sherman’s stroll through Atlanta.
Kiffin ordered a 78 yard field goal attempt with the Raiders
’nuf said
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 14, 2010 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
I love your point
A 78 yard field goal with 1 second left=burned the Raiders.
Keeping sinking my friend.
And this cat has a degree from PSU
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 14, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
you obviously can't see past the bullsh*t with your new coach
don’t confuse excitement with optimism. yeah, Kiffin brings excitement, especially with the media, but it’s the wrong kind – unless you think NCAA sanctions will continue USC’s prominence in this country. If that’s the case, then God speed.
everything that’s wrong with college football and its coaches is, as of this moment, embodied solely in Lane Kiffin. I’m not here to spread hate, I just want you guys to see the light. That is all.
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 14, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Won't happen, Bro.
Besides – you’re PSU.
Move along.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jan 14, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
hey, you frequent my board, I'll visit yours ;-)
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 14, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
Dude he is from your board
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 14, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
It's lost on him.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jan 14, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
Guys really is your board so boring that you come here to rag on us?
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 14, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
embodied SOLELY in Lane Kiffin?
Well, if that isn’t evidence that the rest of the college football fanosphere is far more guilty of believing what they want to believe than anyone here, I don’t know what is.
Go preach somewhere else your eminence...
We see the light fine…Some of us are nervous about it but we need to support our coach…just like you do.
Nice sidestep
See the light? Again I don’t know what you are talking about. The truth is that I am apprehensive about the hire. But I’m not going to freak out about it. Time will tell if the hire will help or hurt USC in the long run. I don’t know the answer to that question. My only point to you was that you too do not know the answer. Coach Kiffin’s hasty departure from Tennessee is the only black mark on his career at the moment. One black mark, and a handful of secondary violations, does not equal certain failure for his tenure at USC. I don’t expect you to “see the light” on any of my arguments, since you have avoided most of them.
well, I guess I'm wearing out my welcome
but reread your post again. you’re proving my point. if you can’t see it, then c’est la vie…
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 14, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
What one of the great state of Penn coaches says about Kiff...
Thx for playing, PSU bridesmaids, but I’ll take Johnny’s insight over your envious tirades:
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20100114?sub_id=klyOU8wERiLv&folio=CGI#pg16
“I’ve been around him since he took the Tennessee job,” Johnny Majors wrote of Kiffin. "I’ve watched practice, talked to the squad a couple of times, and spent some time in his office. And I believe he is a very good football coach. He’s very aggressive and well organized. He’s demanding and he and his staff attacked recruiting very aggressively.
“I think he is going to be very, very successful in the long run.”
final warning?
people can’t post their opinions on here without having a ban hammer over their heads?
Reminds me of the Rose Bowl last year and the legions of USC fans yelling “go home” at us so loud we could hear it on the TV. I’ll never forget that.
Well, LA has never been known for its hospitality.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
You can say what you want
the ban hammer goes down on those who choose to antagonize rather than take part in a discussion or argument. This Rose guy likes to talk the smack, but he won’t respond to anything that pokes holes into his assertions. He just keeps talking the same smack.
If your impression of USC fans and Los Angeles is based on some fans that yelled at you to “go home” then by all means feel free to think and feel anyway you like. I have never had a problem with a Penn State fan myself. But I don’t really get into anyone’s face before or after a game. I guess all I can say to you is that you will probably get that kind of remark at almost every stadium that you walk into if you are the road team. If you’re that sensitive about those kind of things, perhaps you should watch the game on television where its more of a controlled environment, because fans do raz each other at the stadium you know.
Yeap...I don't need or want anyone here that just wants to stir the pot
I could care less what anyone else thinks…
You have to earn some credibility here before you pop off like you guys did…Pete the Steak and I have gone on well in the past so he has earned some leeway in my eyes. You just came out of the blue trying to stir the pot.
We kind of keep to ourselves here and only go where we are welcome. Which isn’t too many other places because everyone hates USC.
That’s their problem not ours but we won’t stir the pot anywhere else out of respect. Who I am on this site is who I am in real life…not some internet tough guy hiding behind a screen and key board.
I am sure Mike or RUTS at BSD feels the same way…they run a pretty good shop there even though I don’t agree with some of what they say…
Moving on.
I’m calling BULLSHIT! I was there for the PSU, Illinois and both Michgan RBs and while there are always a few a-holes on both sides, by and large, USC fans are too laid back due to being there so often.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 16, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
The only bullshit I can't see past is yours
I see my coaches bullshit just fine. What I have problems with is your logic, especially on Kiffin’s term with the Raiders. That piece of your argument holds absolutely no water. The other load of manure from you that I can’t see past is your insistence that Kiffin will fail when he has shown that his teams improve on the field, and demonstrated an ability to recruit with the big dogs.
Now if you want to make an argument about his lack of ethics and character regarding his departure from Tennessee, then I say you might have something real to talk about.
Maybe that's why SC wins championships, and
Penn St plays for 2nd place in the B10. Rose, you haven’t a clue about Kiff or USC. Don’t JoePa’s diapers need changing right about now?
" Maybe that's why SC wins championships, and Penn St plays for 2nd place in the B10. "
No I think it’s because you guys cheat actually. Or is the NCAA down with everyone getting an SUV and a luxury apartment nowadays?
Peace out freaks.
Ban it up!
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
This is laughable
there’s going to be a lot of haters who are going to be in an uproar when all the NCAA does is vacate some wins, and take away a scholarship or two.
I can't wait to see the collective jaw drop
when the sanctions are moderate. what will be the rant then? the NCAA protected SC football for TV ratings? ROFL
It is sad how dumb the avg person is, just regurgitating what they read in the news. Also, the avg sports reporter. I think I have only heard Ted and one other guy at ESPN (Bill) say that sanctions are expected to be moderate. Everyone at Sportsline says death penalty. What a bunch of frkn morons!
But who is dumber BN little ones or yahoo
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 16, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Laff
Luxury apartment? I guess he is referring to Dwayne Jarrett. I would explain the details of this, and why absolutely no one cares about it, including the NCAA, because it was, and continues to be, an innocent mistake that was rectified.
The SUV for McKnight remains to be seen. I’ll comment on that when the facts come in. The simple fact that you choose not to look at the facts of each one of your remarks makes your comments more laughable to people on this blog. So if your intention is to provoke anger, you had the opposite reaction.
And the “Manse” in San Diego is just a modest attached tract house in hardscrabble Spring Valley. Not saying that it’s right but fact checking and grasp of reality are nowhere to be found in the media.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 16, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
I gues I am not sure what your pount is here
This doesn’t affect PSU so I am not sure why you feel the need to discuss this…
Do you anything of substance to offer other than to bash our new coach?
If not move along…
I guess I'm questioning the excitement you guys have for Kiffin
He hasn’t done anything. I mean, yeah, he was the OC during the Leinart/Bush years, but c’mon, that’s more Carroll’s work than Kiffin’s.
But whatever. It’s your school, not mine.
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 14, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Uh-huh...Kiffin did a decent job his one year as OC...he had Bush to bail him out but so did Chow in 2004
compared to the list of NFL retreads that was compiled…he is a savior
Gruden…no thanks his style doesn’t fit college.
Del RIo…can he recruit?
Fisher…same as Del Rio
Of course Kiffin has his flaws but he knows USC and while many of us are nervous over this hire but it is clear that SC did not have a better plan. So we need to get behind him. I refuse to belike that other blog who constantly pissed an moaned about their former coach…
actually, I think Gruden would fit college better than the pros
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 14, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
not with the work rules...
he wants his players and staff to work 20 hours a day
in college you only get 20 hours a week with the players
I meant his personality
it’ll fly with wide eyed kids, not million dollar players
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 14, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
yeah like it did with Weis...
Gruden is untested in college…I don’t want SC to be his science project
Hey Rose
Can you honestly say that the Raiders did not look more competitive when Kiffin took over. It is a fact that Kiffin and Davis had a major clash with issues of personel. One big problem was the drafting of JaMarcus Russell. Kiffin went so far as saying that he couldn’t win games with Russell, and Davis insisted on getting him. Who was right in the end? Lane Kiffin did nothing to burn the Raiders. That is a fact. UT on the other hand, he left in very bad shape. Is that proof that USC will be screwed in 3 years? No it isn’t.
The only thing that you can really say to USC is don’t complain if he leaves after 1 season. If he does that, I don’t think that you will find any USC students rioting in the streets.
lets see live in tenn or live on the coast in so cal, lets take a VOTE
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 14, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
don't agree with any of the logic that says
that Lane Kiffin can’t be trusted and shouldn’t be hired because he agreed to be hired
Strawman argument.
Bookmark your comment, and revisit it in 3 years.
Neither Garrett nor Kiffin will be there, and you’ll all be wondering “Why can’t we catch a break?”.
USC’s problems are just beginning, I’m afraid.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jan 14, 2010 5:31 AM PST up reply actions
Not a strawman
People are saying, not me, but people ARE saying, “How can you trust a coach that would leave the Tennessee program like that?”
Well I’ll tell you, for starters, WE told him to do it.
USC did indeed ask him to leave UT,
and did so in such a rush and panic that no one gave a thought to “be careful what you ask for”.
However, don’t kid yourselves that the job change is the sole reason why people consider him untrustworthy, and of less than sterling character.
I’m not saying this has zero chance of working out, but…….doesn’t a single poster here have a lousy feeling – already – about this man, and the way he’s done things in the last year and a half? Yes, I’m a PSU guy, and I’m not of any consequence, but………….is winning the absolute one and only thing you want from the most public face of your University’s image? No matter the cost?
You guys have had a real nice run, and I wish you well. I’ve enjoyed watching SC since I was a kid in the late ’60’s, but I’ve got this bad sense that your soul has just been sold.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jan 14, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Nice handle...
In Pennsylvania they call ‘em streaks, in Cali they’re skidmarks. Undiebomber.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 14, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Gosh - good one!
Mensa, right?
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jan 14, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
ok pete i got a better one for you
You should come to Cali and protest until the season starts, yah just walk around campus with your sign that will do it. Or yet you could have a petition and have people sign it and it will make you the KING of LA.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 14, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
You're right. That's MUCH better.
It’s incredibly on point to the topic, and so elegantly expressed.
You obviously peaked at ‘RRRRRIIIIIIIGGGGGGHHHHHHTTTTTT’.
Please – leave the complete-sentence attempts to the actual SC grads.
Readers everywhere will be grateful.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jan 14, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Hey Pete... take it back to BSD
Our guys are going to be defensive of our guy just like you are of your coach. We respect that…Kiffin may be a bastard but he is our bastard.
Kind of like some see JoPa as an old fool but he is your old fool.
We have no beef with PSU, so I guess I don’t get what you are selling here…
I realize that many are having glee over this but that should surprise no one when you had the run we had.
NO SCHOOL will ever match what PC did in his run, this is just part of the price of success…
OK, OK. I yield.
Please stop by BSD, though. We always appreciate other points of view.
Good luck with everything, and I do wish you well.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jan 14, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
I'll pass... I took some shit over there last year when we played you guys
I don’t tread where people generally hate ’SC
If I want to get my ass kicked I’ll go to one of my snotty customers…at least with them I have shot at getting some business…
It can happen, I agree.
The vast majority, though, enjoyed your visits, and those (well, most) of the Geaux Tiger contingent during bowl season.
Hell – I’ll even guarantee you a rec, Para, for any comment that doesn’t include a ‘your coach is old’ reference. I’ll even bet I can persuade two more folk to join me and turn it green.
Now, THAT’S hospitality for ya.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jan 14, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds lie a slow night down by the river...
Ol’ Skids just ‘aint gonna shut it down no time soon, no Siree. This is whut ya git when cuzens marry, yep. Afore ya keep on stealin’ wi-fi from the double-wide next door, go a lookin’ out back in yer outhouse! Yer woman’s goin’ at it again with her brother. Oh yeah, I forgot; that don’t bother simple folk like you, you’ll get yer chance at ’er after vittles.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 14, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
Listen this is BLOG not a writing class
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 14, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, there has been a sudden recruiting burst
Problems are not beginning. A new era of the dynasty IS beginning.
Lane Kiffin shows a clear disconnect with the rule book.
Just for curiosity’s sake, I’d like to see this point addressed here on CC:
Lane Kiffin didn’t know the rules of the NCAA.
It happened with the hostesses (http://www.tennessean.com/article/20091229/SPORTS0601/91228044/Lane-Kiffin%5C-s-staff-at-UT-doesn%5C-t-know-NCAA-rules—recruit-says). He didn’t know that TN wouldn’t have gotten to retry their blocked field goal attempt against Alabama had a penalty been called (and took a great deal of heat for that).
And now with the “Coach O” calling recruits debate, does Kiffin’s blatant ignorance of many of the rules not bother USC fans?
NNNooooooo
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 14, 2010 7:45 AM PST up reply actions
I guess I should rephrase my question...
Why doesn’t that bother USC fans?
I’m just curious. It’ll be interesting to see if Kiffin is a good fit and brings USC out of the bowels of NCAA sanctions. Saban knows it took us Bama fans a while to get out from under them! I just don’t want to see the same thing happen to USC. SI was predicting USC vs. Bama in the title game early last season. I would have loved to see that.
yeah...who cares
lets get there first…I think SC knows what is coming…these guys aren’t dumb. They have probably already had discussions with the NCAA on the potential penalties
so whats your point?
Kiffin pushed the envelope in the SEC…
Really you men the SEC is squeaky clean?
Heck breaking the rules in the SEC is rule #1…if you aint cheatin’ you aint tryin’ I think the saying goes.
Not sure why this matters anymore its our problem now we’ll see how it goes.
A number ot UT fans didn’t have a problem when Kiffin stirred the pot to get UT back on the map but as he is heading out the door now its a problem?
I am skeptical of this hire but I love Kiffin’s energy
I guess I just find it odd that a fan of a program that numerous violations documented all of a sudden has an issue with a former SEC Coach breaking the rules….
(scratches head…)
Thanks for the insight.
I certainly hope you’re right. I guess it’s a matter of “we’ll see.” That brings me to another question: how long will USC fans put up with Kiffin IF he fails to do his job (which hopefully will not be the case)? 1 year? 2?
I do need to defend a point, though: you can’t name one non-appealed NCAA violation under Saban. Aside from the textbook scandal (and its very scathing appeal for a minor violation that began pre-Saban), it’s been squeaky-clean.
3 years
Thats the length of time that you get. Also, there has to be improvement every season. I think USC expects a better than average season because of the talent level that we have on our roster. 9-10 wins would make people happy. 8 wins people will grumble. 11 wins and USC fans will be totally satisfied.
I for one don't care about any other teams problem don't have time, I got my own to worry about.
But you go ahead and worry about everyone else, but one day you are going to look around and say WTF happened.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 14, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Squink
I am apprehensive about Kiffin. How can I be sure of this guy without much of a track record to look at. Yes I am concerned, but what are USC fans supposed to do. All we can do is wait and see.
C'mon, Frak.
This is no time for serious thought. Drink the Kool-aid!
Or, if Dope is more your style, try the Locoweed 1.1. It’s stupid good.
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by Pete the Streak on Jan 14, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Jealous?
We have one of the great young coaching minds in college football and you have an 80 yo has been. Hope you enjoy watching SC play in more BCS champs. Good luck with your Chick-Fil-A Bowls. Maybe a smart young coach might help you get over the hump with Ohio St so you wouldn’t have to be so envious of Trojan greatness? Try it! Winning is fun! I would be frustrated too as a perennial conference bridesmaid.
lulz.
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He's back home where he belongs, you WILL deal with it!

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