[UPDATED] Norm Chow IS in play... (maybe)
by Paragon SC on Jan 13, 2010 3:46 PM PST
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PrintTake it with a grain of salt but Norm Chow is in play...
USC is talking to Norm Chow and salary figures being discussed are between $1-1.5 million per season.
Now this is contradictory from what we heard from Chow's agent earlier today, but come on. If he was staying at ucla he would have issued a statement by now.
Yes, he is in Florida at a coaching conference but I am sure they have fax machines and phones there.
I think 1.5 mil is a bit high but it is not my money...benefits of a private institution.
On a side note...Is Rick Neuheisel going to try and stop Chow from going? He would be crazy to keep a guy around who clearly does not want to be there. Is Neuheisel nuts? Why stand in the way? the fallout with that would be even more damaging to the team. Neuheisel should cut ties and go in a different direction.
I hope Neuheisel goes after Leach, I mean how much fun would those games be!!
We'll keep you posted...
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UPDATE: Obviously the situation is fluid so who knows what is really going on...
Everyone should probably relax a little bit regarding the Norm Chow situation. He is flying back to L.A. right now from Florida while Lane Kiffin is flying in from Tennessee. They have not even spoken to each other yet, so even though USC wants Chow, whether there can be a comfortable pairing needs to be discussed.
Something might happen tonight. Or tomorrow. But right now, not a lot of action. It will need to be wrapped up in the next day, however, because no one wants to be left dangling.
This is why Wolf is unreliable...which is why I said above take it with a grain of salt...
Maybe Chow comes maybe he doesn’t…I will live either way.
But why would Neuheisel keep Chow around if Chow doesn’t want to be there?
Chow could have shut this down with a statement as soon as it broke…I mean they do have phones, faxes and internet connections in Florida so he could have reached out to any one of his contacts in the press (or his agent) to get the word out. I stand by remarks in the comments of another thread, Chow did reach out to USC a while back. He is not totally happy at ucla or with Rick Neuheisel. Sure he could make it work this year but how will he make it work next year when ucla can't match what he is making now?
He didn’t so what does that tell you.
I will feel better with this hire if Chow comes aboard. If not I'll manage...it ain't the end of the world. Two out of three ain't bad...
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I'm starting to really embrace the fact that we are becoming the WWF heel of college football...
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Everyone will hate us for a little while... kind of relish in that
Better than no one caring… like with Hackett
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
I wonder
How Leach would react to the “Over The Wall” tradition. I doubt there is an electrical closet on ucla’s campus that is large enough to fit their entire team in.
UCLA and Leach is a silly rumor
If they can’t afford Chow, then they certainly can’t afford Leach. Leach was at $2.4m/yr as an HC. No way does he go to sUCLA for $700k. Plus, any new coaching income will mitigate his damages in his Tx Tech suit. Look for Leach to sit on the sideline for 1 year, then pursue ASU.
PC made $4.5m, so we are saving money on the HC. More money to spread around to the assistants. Chow should definitely be affordable. Curious what all the salaries are though.
I’m sure Tennessee has interest in Cap’n leach
by Julio Nievas on Jan 13, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
it could get bad for Leach and he may have trouble find a position anywhere. a coordinator position might be what he needs to start the rehab.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Leach ain't coming to UCLA
primarily for the $$s reason, if nothing else. UCLA can’t pay an OC that type of coin, simple as that.
Might I add
if Chow ends up leaving, of course.
The Leach angle* tells all, it's only a matter of negotiating the price
*if you are to believe Cowherd
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
Defamation is a Major Part of his Suit
He has an $8 figure lawsuit against Tech. Defamation and the inability to get a comparable job are a big part of his case. I am certain that he won’t be accepting a job for 1 year while his suit plays out. $8 figures in damages makes a fUCLA assts salary meaningless.
At this afternoon's presser
Not saying this will happen, but Kiff does like to put on a show:
At the podium Lane Kiffin introduces himself as USC’s new head coach, makes all the usual declarations and introduces Monte and Ed. The two assistants say a few words declare their love for USC their desire to win a National Championship. Lane returns to the podium and says “oh, by the way, we also invited some friends.” A door opens and in walks Norm Chow the room explodes. Norm looks at the door and beckons someone to enter, in steps Joe McKnight and Damian Williams, freshly recruited by “The Band” to join the reunion tour… Fantasy? Absolutely! Yet…
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
That is a good one Loco I didn't know you worked in Hollywood
Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 13, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
hahahaha
Good one Loco. Great commentary.
by Julio Nievas on Jan 13, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Hoping No. 4 releases a solo cd
McKnight should continue pursuing his solo career! the Band has a lot of great replacements who actually move the ball forward past the line of scrimmage with regularity instead of bouncing backwards off linemen like a ping pong ball.
Spotted! Leavig the West Coast of Florida behind. Flight plant Santa Monica Airport, CA. Giddy Asian male about 60 years old was seen boarding just before takeoff.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 13, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
This Tennessee limo was found abandoned near Knoxville Airport
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
Thank you amigo, we’re all here to have a good time; it’s our duty as Trojans, just as it is the duty of every ruin to be miserable… and to work for the government.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 13, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
You know...
Normally you can’t trust anything that Scott Wolf says, but he seems to be the one providing the most accurate/plausible coverage of the Norm dealings
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
wolf on chow...
Everyone should probably relax a little bit regarding the Norm Chow situation. He is flying back to L.A. right now from Florida while Lane Kiffin is flying in from Tennessee. They have not even spoken to each other yet, so even though USC wants Chow, whether there can be a comfortable pairing needs to be discussed.
Something might happen tonight. Or tomorrow. But right now, not a lot of action. It will need to be wrapped up in the next day, however, because no one wants to be left dangling.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Wait...
According to Scott Wolf, Kiffin and Chow haven’t spoken to each other. How can we assume Kiffin even wants Chow on his staff? We need to let this play out.
wolf had also said that they had approached norm early yesterday about coming back as OC without detailing who he would be working for.
One way or another, he is either coming back to LA to sign with USC, or to get a huge raise to stay at UCLA
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
So IF we dont get Chow
Who will run the offense??
No way UCLA grabs Leach
How in the world are they going to afford him?
--Conquest Chronicles, SBNation's USC Trojans blog
2 things
they cant afford him
he will not be an OC.. only a HC
They still wouldn't be able to afford him as a head coach
By firing Slick Rick, they’d be having to pay two coaches salaries. You’re going to tell me they can afford essentially two coaches? The reason they hired Karl Dorrell back in 2003 was because they were having to pay Toledo, who was fired, and KD would work cheap. Leach won’t, and thus, he won’t be their HC anytime soon.
--Conquest Chronicles, SBNation's USC Trojans blog
by Joey Kaufman on Jan 13, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
There’s been an official rebuttal from Morgan Center, they will not hire Leach.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 13, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
i never said fire rick for leaach
i said there are 2 reason why leach will not go to UCLA
1 is they cant afford him
2 is he will never be an offensive coordinator..
lane kiffin nickname at bruins blog…. Lame Kitten…
wow it is really annoying going over to that blog and seeing its only about usc.. they have nothing else to do
Really?
Well, I can’t even begin to tell how incredibly annoying it is to come over here and see you guys acting like getting Chow to come back over to your side is like in the bag.
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Jan 13, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
Well, that's the belief because...
ESPN reported that we had in a deal in place, which got everybody excited here. Don’t blame the ’SC fans for that. Blame the “World Wide Leader.”
--Conquest Chronicles, SBNation's USC Trojans blog
by Joey Kaufman on Jan 13, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yah and what are you chumps saying over there about us, just get it next years game will be a blowout with or without Chow.
Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 13, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
You guys are as much in the dark as we are
lots of speculation…
Wolf says there has been communication.
The he says there hasn’t been any…
His colleague Jon Gold is as in the dark as Wolf.
Maybe Chow comes maybe he doesn’t…I will live either way
But why would Neuheisel keep him around if he doesn’t want to be there?
Chow could have shut this down with a statement as soon as it broke…he didn’t so what does that tell you.
Chow is all about the Benjamins…you may keep him this year but not next.
I don't think it's in the bag
but it does make sense. With the Titan’s subsidy running out, if he wants to continue coaching, USC is simply going to be able to pay better than UCLA. Personality issues may complicate matters, but if those can be addressed or tolerated, it makes a lot of sense for him to come back across town.
Haha
Yeah, there are sane all right. One argument against the Bruins and get ready for the banhammer.
by FozzyTheGamer on Jan 13, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
I will say
As much as I dislike Kiffin, I hope you continue ot smoke UCLA every year, just to see the clowns at BN cry.
Its no wonder they suck at football, THEY care more about USC than UCLA.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Jan 13, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
HEY!
I thought you said we couldn’t mention the BN. Is it open season again?
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 13, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
In a nasty way...Dave is not being nasty.
He is the original writer for ATQ…good guy.
He has been around long enough to know the history
And that's why....
I enjoy to go to your site. We can actually have something I like to called an OPINION.
by FozzyTheGamer on Jan 13, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
they really do
every single fanpost or fanshot is about USC..
damn my membership to the blog will be activiated in 1 hour… i am so excited!
Pure Brilliance! Love this!
--Conquest Chronicles, SBNation's USC Trojans blog
by Joey Kaufman on Jan 13, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Like if we went over at BN like Minnisota bruinfan did here we would get Banned, but she can come here anytime.
Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 13, 2010 3:49 PM PST reply actions
minesota bruin loves us
I Probably Shouldn’t Have Been Doing This….
But I’m so damned upset with that Trojan shill Shelley Smith at WWL still saying that ’SC trying to get CNC is still the "last piece" to put in place. I went over to that "other" blog – you know, Conquest Chronicles – to vent on ’SC. Those idiots feel like, well, since WWL and Shelley Smith are saying it then it MUST be true.
Meh...
He/She can come or go as they please I could care less…I haven’t been there in weeks.
Their stuff pops up in my reader…I peruse it but move on quickly…Laugh at a lot of it.
"The minute Pete Carroll resigned from USC, Norm Chow’s son (his agent) contacted USC and told them that Norm was interested in coming back. He really enjoyed the culture at USC and didn’t know if UCLA would be able to afford him now that the Tennessee Titans no longer have to pay the majority of his contract."
i dont know if this has been posted yet..
I posted the link to the press conference for those interested in watching...
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
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