Quick Thoughts on the Kiffin Hiring...
by Paragon SC on Jan 12, 2010 6:38 PM PST
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An interesting turn of events to be sure....
The Good:
Sounds like the players are on board...Just heard Mark Tyler on ESPN News sounding really happy about it. Remember Kiffin recruited many of the upperclassmen so they know him.
If it is true that Coach O is back that saves much if not all of the recruiting class.
Bringing Monte Kiffin will give us the same Tampa II defense but hopefully he has some new twists.
The Unknown:
Kiffin had some issues with secondary violations with the NCAA. That's a concern with the NCC getting ready to meet in February. He will need to be on his best behavior.
The Bad:
This hire is going to draw a lot of scrutiny. There will be many that will not like it, and USC will get hammered for it if fails.
UPDATE:
Not surprising...our friends across town have already posted a link to the NYT article from December about "wide-ranging investigation" into Kiffin.
Not surprising at all...let the games continue!
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I'm so verry sorry.
I never had any problem with Carroll, nor SC. But Kiffin is a giant phallus, so I will have to hate you now.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by Addicted to Quack on Jan 12, 2010 6:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
do you REALLY have to ask that question?
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by Addicted to Quack on Jan 12, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a wunderkind
swagger sells recruits. Kiff does this for show. He’s a bit like Harbaugh, just much, much smarter football-wise.
by DFWTrojan on Jan 12, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Show me a coach with no ego and I will show you a no-coach
by gnossos on Jan 12, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Riley, Chris Peterson, and Bill Stewart come to my mind as coaches without bloated egos. Admittedly, the former and latter are not playing at consistent top-10 level, and the middle faces questionable competition.
I don’t think the strike against him is that he has an ego, though. I’m guessing that the phallic-ness to which Dave refers has more to do with things like accusing Urban Meyer of trying to steal recruits and repeatedly speaking out against SEC officiating despite repeated warnings not to do so.
Please understand that I’m not intending to badmouth LK; I wouldn’t come to your blog and do that. I’m just trying to articulate what I believe to have been Dave’s point.
"[Juju] is a magical, fragile thing. It's when you've pleased the god of football, and he decides to shine his glorious bounty upon your team. If you anger him, he takes it away." --Hank Hill, paraphrased slightly
by ProbablyMonty on Jan 12, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
why do you have to say hes a giant phallus
by matthewmafa on Jan 12, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well, as I'm unfamiliar with the rules regarding profanity on this blog
I was trying to be respectful.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by Addicted to Quack on Jan 12, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And that your are and no offense was taken, welcome to the blog.
by gnossos on Jan 12, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, if we were gonna steal someone, why not Saban? lol
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
by Vacafan on Jan 12, 2010 6:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It's like nothing changed
We will still run the same system and practice and recruit the same.
We will still lose a game or two due to one of two questionable play calls.
Bruins trolls, with little to cheer about on their own front, will continue hating us with the same vigor. Bruins Nation is assured of page views.
The old men on WeAreSC will still bitch and moan about the same things.
Everybody wins!
by Zoulou on Jan 12, 2010 7:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
One other thingy
Wolfie doesn’t have to change his schtick one bit. Just do a global search and replace “Caesar” and “Pete Carroll” with “[insert clever nickname]” and “Lane Kiffin” and Voila!, Wolfie can go back to cutting and pasting as usual!
Everybody wins!
by Zoulou on Jan 12, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't feel it will be the same because OC will either be Chow or someone else.
This team will average 40+ pt. and give up -17
Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 12, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone catch Kiffins press conference?
He looked pretty sheepish. It was almost like he had a car running waiting just outside the door that he was going to jump into. He didn’t allow anyone to ask questions.
by frak on Jan 12, 2010 8:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Paragon SC, we go way back
You know I respect you, your blog, and the USC program. You know that, despite being an SEC guy, I have a high regard for the Pac-10 as a conference. I have tried to confront honestly the East Coast bias and I have defended the legitimacy of the Trojans’ claim to a share of the 2003 national championship in the face of rabid fans arguing otherwise.
I mention this because I don’t want the following comment to come across as being hateful. Consider it fair warning from a friend with some perspective.
USC will look back on this as a dark day in the history of your proud program. Lane Kiffin is a cretin and a clown. He will talk the talk but will not walk the walk. He will recruit effectively. His father will field a solid defense. Of course, Southern California, like Tennessee, already recruited well and fielded a solid defense, so nothing is being gained there.
Lane Kiffin is a jackass and a motormouth. The worst elements of your fan base will love him for his sophomoric antics, mistakenly believing they convey an “attitude” of some dubious worth, but the silent majority of fans will tire of him soon enough. This was a bad hire by a program capable of doing much, much better, and it will end in disaster.
For the record, Lane Kiffin’s lifetime record as a head coach is 12-21.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Jan 12, 2010 8:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
not to mention 0-2 versus UCLA. Of course, that might change if Chow goes to SC
by impaulv on Jan 12, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Tennessee play UCLA twice this year?
Kiffin was just the UT coach in 2009 and was 0-1 against UCLA. Phil Fulmer was the coach when the Vols lost to the Bruins in 2008.
--Conquest Chronicles, SBNation's USC Trojans blog
by Joey Kaufman on Jan 12, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good point, I had forgotten about that. And nah, I wasn’t referring to 13-9. So just 0-1. My bad.
by impaulv on Jan 12, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But, they were both rebuilding jobs
Tenn improved tremendously throughout this season, and they should have beaten Bama. The Raiders played better under Kiff.
Also, I believe Kiff’s “antics” were a show needed to regain swagger at Tenn. Kiff will tone it down and be polished at SC.
Kiff is a wunderkind, son of a legend. He knows offense and defense. He has energy and charisma. And, he is a Trojan. Kiff will win championships for years to come.
by DFWTrojan on Jan 12, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
hes like the second coming of pete carrol
by matthewmafa on Jan 12, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tennessee's schedule is backloaded
The Vols always end the year against South Carolina (which annually fades in November), Vanderbilt, and Kentucky. Their record may have improved, but they didn’t get better as a team, as Virginia Tech proved in the Chick-fil-A Bowl.
I don’t know why you put “antics” in scare quotes. Are you suggesting they weren’t antics? What term would you use instead?
I wish y’all well, but you just bought a pig in the poke. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Jan 12, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes we shall! And let the East Coast bias start.
Fight On!
by gnossos on Jan 12, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Schrödinger's pig
Could be a coup, or we could be hung out to dry.
I’m not confident, but I am excited.
by Boy Howdy on Jan 12, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really KLYE who made you god, please what would you know about SC FB or so cal in general.
Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 12, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So can you honestly say
That Tennessee did not perform above their talent level while Kiffin was at the helm. I didn’t get to see every game, but the ones that I did watch it seemed like they were at least competitive. When I saw the Raiders play when Lane was their coach, they looked improved. Not only that he was the guy begging Al Davis not to draft JaMarcus Russell, and we all know how that turned out.
You probably saw more of UT than I did. Honestly do you think he did a bad job on gameday, all antics aside.
by frak on Jan 12, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Now Frak please don't anger GOD
Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 12, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right Frak
Kiff was handcuffed with a weak QB that he didn’t want at Oakland.
by DFWTrojan on Jan 13, 2010 12:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BS on the Vols not improving
I watched almost every game. Crompton couldn’t hit the broadside of the barn early, and they lost to fUCLA. The Vols defense turned into one of the SEC’s best, and Crompton looked like a different player as the season progressed. They played Florida even and should have beaten Bama.
Wrong on all counts, dawgman.
by DFWTrojan on Jan 13, 2010 12:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you say 45-19 UGA?
have you removed the splinters from the woodshed yet?
by DFWTrojan on Jan 13, 2010 12:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Notice that he (KYLE) is your A Typical Lawyer hit and run BS Tactics.
Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 13, 2010 7:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Easy there...
Kyle is one of the good ones.
I don’t always agree with his take and we had very little contact over the past yer or so but I respect his take. I think he is off on some things here but I think he does a solid job.
He knows the SEC better than most and he is traditionalist…nothing wrong with that.
by Paragon SC on Jan 13, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree with Kyle
believe me, the rest of the Pac-10 is very excited about this.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by Addicted to Quack on Jan 12, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You shouldn't be Dave
Monte and Lane shut down the spread option with Tebow, and will shut down Masoli too. Your worst nightmare has begun. At least you got a Rose Bowl to cherish for a while.
by DFWTrojan on Jan 13, 2010 12:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Job 1 for Monte is stopping the spread
He’s already done it to Tebow, an next week they’ll start breaking down film on Masoli. Welcome to the Big City boys.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 13, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yah the ducks just got hit by the truck, but will they get the 5 bucks
Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 13, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha!
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 13, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Its sucks for Tennessee
USC can’t say they didn’t see it coming if he bolts from us. It does say volumes about his character. I have mixed feelings about the hire. I like the football coaching staff as far as quality, and wow factor. I don’t like the circumstances at all, and I don’t feel good with the mess Kiffin leaves at Tennessee. But as I said before. This is big time college football. This kind of thing happens. USC is taking the risk with Lane Kiffin,
by frak on Jan 12, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a business
It’s his dream job. We bought out his contract. There were no violations of his agreement. PC left us hanging off a cliff.
Honestly, the big issue is that recruiting signing day is in Feb, so close to the end of bowl season and NFL regular season. The NCAA should push back signing day to allow more time for postseason coaching revolving doors.
by DFWTrojan on Jan 13, 2010 12:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tenn 45 UGA 19
sour grapes, UGA. we know Lane, you don’t. thanks for playing though.
by DFWTrojan on Jan 13, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW they're rioting in Tennessee
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Jan 12, 2010 8:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They take their football seriously in the South
by gnossos on Jan 12, 2010 8:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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