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Some Brief Thoughts on Pete Carroll's Departure from USC

As we move forward I will probably do more in looking back on Pete Carroll's tenure at USC, but for now I just have some general thoughts as it all sinks in...

So, we turn the page on the Pete Carroll era at USC...

If you didn't see the presser you can watch it again here.

There will be many who write and dissect PC's tenure at Heritage Hall. Some will be positive, some will be negative. I just hope many will be fair. No coach does everything right and all the good ones have their share of controversy and when they are in charge at a nationally prominent program every little issue is magnified into a national conspiracy by those who would wish said program ill will.

Pete Carroll changed the atmosphere around the program. He embraced its traditions and made a few of his own along the way. His easy going style made it easy to get comfortable with the program again. He changed the culture as he embraced the fans and opened up practices.

He made it fun to enjoy USC football again!

Star-divide

I am not going to try and write a historical piece on Pete Carroll. Others are already doing that so I will leave it to the professionals.

For a change Dennis Dodd actually writes something decent...

Pete injected a personality we thought he never had into a rudderless program. Who knew that an out-of-work average former NFL coach from the University of Pacific had these kind of chops?

From the get go, he was recruiting. Not just players either. In 2005, Pat Ruel was happy with his NFL job with the New York Giants. Carroll convinced the veteran offensive line coach to come out and talk about a job. It took one lunch with Carroll in Manhattan Beach on a cloudless sunny day with the waves crashing in the background for Ruel to change jobs.

Carroll's coaching tree continues to grow. Steve Sarkisian is at Washington and has already been mentioned as a possible replacement. Kiffin took some of Carroll's exuberance with him to Tennessee. Carroll allowed them to run USC's offense while still in their early 30's. Both run their practices the same as Pete did at USC.

Players loved him. Recruits flocked to him. In one three-year period, 40 true freshmen saw the field for the Trojans. The downside was that a lot of those players developed quickly and went to the NFL after three years. The upside was that the cycle started all over again. Carroll sold that possibility to the next round of recruits.

Pete embraced the history, tradition, the hype, the hangers on. Even the media.

Open locker rooms, open practices, Win Forever. Game day at the Coliseum, sellouts, Tommy Trojan, the Song Girls. I walked off the field with Matt Leinart a night after he beat Notre Dame at home. The look in his eyes told me the kid knew his whole life was about to change.

Matt, you had no idea.

God, you not only wanted to cover it, you wanted to be part of it.

Everyone wanted to be a part of it!

SC wasn't this much fun since McKay left.

And just like that it is over...

It went by pretty fast!

I refuse to think and say "what if" as many have and will do about a number of moves that Pete Carroll made (or didn't make).

In for a dime in for a dollar...

You take the good with the bad...

I really couldn't be happier for Pete Carroll as he makes the move to Seattle.

SC has a bit of a rough road ahead but SC will be fine.

We will have to take our licks in the coming months but as we have seen with other programs who have had issues with the NCAA it isn't the end of the world. Oklahoma and Alabama come to mind. Whatever the punishment is will be real, it will kind of be like getting the flu, we'll feel crummy and slog through it but sooner or later it will pass. With the right staff and with the right attitude anything is possible.

Everything happens for a reason.

I refuse to be down or melancholy. It couldn't last forever, nor should it have.

I do not know what the future holds but I am confident that those pulling the strings will make the right moves to continue to keep this program nationally prominent.

It won't be easy as we are about to go through change. A new coach and staff mean new rules and a different way of doing things. That will good and bad. The expectations will be high but we need to be supportive and understand that it just won't continue like the way it was before.

There will be fits and starts. There will be stumbling blocks along the way but I have no doubt that SC will still be in the national discussion from a football perspective and not from a punishment perspective.

USC is bigger than just one coach no matter what he accomplished at during his time at USC.

So its a new beginning with a lot of unanswered questions...

And I am excited to see what the future holds!

FIGHT ON!

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How do you keep the party going?

Not with JDR that’s for sure. The BoT has to come to grips with the reality that NFL guys don’t work out in college very often, and stop obsessing about bringing in a former Trojan, We need a college coach and we need to act NOW. The simple solution would be to offer Sark a big contract and set him up with Coach O and Kennedy Pola. The rest of the staff is almost set so what’s the big deal. And don’t tell me Sark won’t take the job, just show him the money!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 9:36 AM PST reply actions  

I agree with this

I “Bark for Sark” now. But what about Holt??

by Julio Nievas on Jan 12, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

He can take over for Sark up at UW. Coach O is our DC.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

On campus yesterday

The bookstore is fully stocked with “Win Forever/Always Compete” t-shirts…awkward. Look for them on clearance soon!

Also walked by Ken Norton Jr. the same time Chris Gallipo was riding by the other way on his bike – heard him stop and wish Norton luck in Seattle – too bad that the core staff is being raided as well, but it was pretty much inevitable.

Let the pining for Norm Chow/Ed Orgeron/Kennedy Pola/other former USC assistants begin…

by FightOn09 on Jan 12, 2010 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

Losing Norton is a huge blow

However, Orgeron, Chow and Pola are all willing and able to carry on. Sark would be the ideal head man but it would take a $10-12 Million/4-5 year deal to get him. It would be a bargain. Considering that the BofT probably isn’t willing to hire a Mike Leach or Kyle Whittingham, Sark is by far the most sensible option. Chow won’t work with Sark, but as we all know now Norm is only human.

BTW: The PC themed clothing should be crated and shipped to Bangladesh. To keep it at the bookstore is an embarrassment.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

this is just stating the obvious

And UCLA fans can whine all they want, but UCLA isn’t even the second highest profile team in California. Cal is easily above them at this point.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Jan 12, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

The LA Express of the USFL had a higher profile

by gnossos on Jan 12, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Slug the ruins! With Palto!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

My buddy went to Santa Cruz

He said that the administration was trying to push the Sealion as the nickname and mascot of UCSC. There is a sealion statue on the campus that the admins had made. Every year the students paint the sealion yellow, and fix antennae to its head.

by frak on Jan 12, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Smart kids, everybody hates sealions!!!!!!!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

You can always count on failblog!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

who the F is that? Martin Short?

by gnossos on Jan 12, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

who knows, but it’s not photoshopped

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that Nestors girl friend

Fine the nearest cliff Mike Garret and put your car in Drive and step on the peddle.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 12, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

per Adam Schefter
USC and former 49ers/Lions HC Steve Mariucci have had conversations. Look for those to now continue.

by Julio Nievas on Jan 12, 2010 10:52 AM PST reply actions  

I love Mariucci... I could go with this...

My list if I were AD…

1. Anyone who brings Coach O and Norm with them
2. Butch Davis
3. Mike Leach
4. Mike “I’m a man, I’m 40” Gundy
5. Kyle Wittlinghamamaramala
6. Steve Mariucci

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Jan 12, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

he was great with the Niners

just not in the playoffs. I wouldn’t mind Mariucci either. Gruden has said countless times he wants his son to play at ‘SC. At this point, it doesn’t matter who comes in, like you said, as long as they bring in Coach O and Chow… Or just Coach O.

by Julio Nievas on Jan 12, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Mariucci could be good too!

We need to get going because we are competing with PC for assts. Dewayne Walker possible for Seahawks DC.

by DFWTrojan on Jan 12, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

...

COACH OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Jan 12, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Coach OOOOO, yes, would he leave Knoxville?

by gnossos on Jan 12, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

YES HE CAN!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

...

Coach O went to my friend’s wedding this one time and gave an honorary best man speech. Nobody understood a fucking word he said but somehow when he left, three of the bridesmaids were pregnant and tables 3-5 were smashed to pieces. Coach OOOOOOOOO……..

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Jan 12, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Coach O knows everything there is to know – except for the definition of mercy.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Coach O does not sleep. He waits.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Coach O doesn’t play “hide-and-seek.” He plays “hide-and-pray-I-don’t-find-you.”

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

The Water Boy

I wonder if that character in the Waterboy who was a Cajun and no one could understand was based on Coach O?

by gnossos on Jan 12, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

And we thank you for that, though Stoops could be pried away for a price.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I suppose if we got barred from bowl games it wouldn’t matter if we had a Stoops coaching, would it?

by DC Trojan on Jan 12, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Not happening, we’ll vacate wins and give up some scholies at worst.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

This is true

Ted and ESPN reports that USC officials do not believe the sanctions are severe. Moderate. The rest of the world on deathwatch can suck it.

by DFWTrojan on Jan 12, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

And if we hire Herm Edwards they’ll give us a wink and a nod.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I applaud the conspicuous absence of Herm Edwards on your list. But avast! Cap’n Leach wouldn’t need Coach O

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

why what Snowman?

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Shiver me timbers, thar be a good point!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s going to score >50 per game. You don’t need much of a defense, and as much as I like Coach O, he does carry some baggage.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

 I love Sark too, but he is still way to green to lead this storied program. Maybe in a few years…

 I wouldn’t mind Steve Mariucci..

~md

by Cali2Chi on Jan 12, 2010 11:08 AM PST reply actions  

Official Wolf is a MORON thread is up!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

Pat Ruel is staying after all

Great rep and probably would have been great going up there with Carroll. But Alex Gibbs????

by Julio Nievas on Jan 12, 2010 11:41 AM PST reply actions  

Holy Mackerel, thats the best news I've heard all week

Now tell me the Daily News declared bankruptcy…

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

WOLF IS THE USC RESIDENT ANTAGONIST

Though Wolfie has had the remarkable privilege to be the SC beat writer for the Daily News covering Trojans and to create somewhat of a name for himself (through his blog) that could very well disappear with the coaching change, all someone would have to do is let the new coach read his blog.

For those who do not reside in the L.A. area, the Daily News and the Daily Breeze are not considered much more than local small town newspapers, their journalist (and that title is a gift) are seldom if ever on top of anything other than local gossip, and the Wolfie is ALWAYS behind the curve with regard to SC.

by alfa1 on Jan 12, 2010 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

I think putting the Daily Breeze on the same playing field as the Daily News is a bit of a stretch. DN is clearly a solid second behind the Times but ahead of the DB as well.

--Conquest Chronicles, SBNation's USC Trojans blog

by Joey Kaufman on Jan 12, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Cap'n Leach brings a gameplan.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

I wouldn’t want to be locked in any shed by this dude!

by gnossos on Jan 12, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

He be stuffin ya in Davey Jones locker he will!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Not happening

Any new coaching income will mitigate damages in his Tx Tech suit. He’ll sit on the sideline for a year. ASU is the perfect fit for him to replace Erickson.

by DFWTrojan on Jan 12, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

You are right, but what a party it would be. If he really wants the job he’d have to drop his lawsuit against Tech immediately. I don’t think the James gang has the chutzpah to sue him.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Cross out Petersen's name off "the list"

UCLA offered him a job, his family didn’t want to live in LA though…

by Julio Nievas on Jan 12, 2010 2:45 PM PST reply actions  

So that's...

1. Mike Riley
2. Jeff Fisher
3. Jack Del Rio
4. Chris Petersen

by Julio Nievas on Jan 12, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Gundy is highly unlikely

John Gruden, Mike Leach, Herm Edwards, Steve Mariucci, Steve Sarkisian..

by Julio Nievas on Jan 12, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m getting a feeling we’re going to get stuck with Herm

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Because of what that old coot Beano said?

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

What did Beano say? Ron Powlus will win 4 Heismans?

by gnossos on Jan 12, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Shame too...

Gundy is pretty young and like Leach, he has done prety well in the shadow of Oklahoma and Texas. He role would be reversed here in LA. He would be the man, but not 40…

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Jan 12, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

OK State football is swimming in money, they can pay him enough to keep him there for a long time..

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Especially if he was going to be coaching at fucla

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

When did Fucla offer him a job? Before Slick Dick came?

by gnossos on Jan 12, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

He and Leach were their prime targets. Wouldn’t even give them the time of day

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPN Pac-10 blog said USC called Chris peterson...

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Jan 12, 2010 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

Goober Pyle doesn’t belong in the big city. Can you imagine him recruiting at Long Beach Poly or any of the city schools? Yep, thought so.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree

would get laughed out of Crenshaw.

by DFWTrojan on Jan 12, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

GOOBER PYLE!!!!!!!!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Camp Carlisle hasn't closed just yet

Mooch is making a BIG push for the job, I think we can live with him.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 3:54 PM PST reply actions  

Herm just won't go away!!!!!!!!!!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Jan 12, 2010 4:02 PM PST reply actions  

F YOU WOLF

HE JUST SAID 10 MINUTES AGO KIFFIN IS COMING TO ’SC, ANNOUNCEMENT COMING SHORTLY

by Julio Nievas on Jan 12, 2010 5:28 PM PST reply actions  

It's Official

Paragon, you know what to do

by Julio Nievas on Jan 12, 2010 5:37 PM PST reply actions  

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