Neuheisel has got to get a grip!
by Paragon SC on Jun 8, 2009 4:06 PM PDT
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PrintGotta give Slick Rick credit...he sure loves to make mountains out of mole hills. I saw this earlier this morning when it popped up in my reader but I figured I would just let it take its course and see where it was headed.
But that was obvious...
So here is the deal, current Pac-10 rules state that no one under the age of 18 is allowed on the sidelines during the game. Skippy wants his sons to be on the sidelines. OK, I get it, that's cool...I mean Charlie Weis has his kid on the sidelines so I can see where Skippy would want his kids to have the same experience.
But there is a reason why the Pac-10 has it this way. It may not be as dangerous as the flight deck on an aircraft carrier during night ops in the middle of a pitching and rolling Pacific Ocean but a football sideline is not exactly a safe place either. 300 pound men are running at full speed, heavy equipment is everywhere, and errant footballs move as fast as a car. I seem to remember that some kid got drilled during USC's spring ball last year so I think the safety concerns are legitimate. The Pac-10 picked the age of 18 because its a safe bet no parsing or second guessing needed. You're adult so you should be able to see the difference between jaw-bonin' on the sidelines and making sure that you don't get drilled.
So Skippy got 8 of the other 9 coaches in the Pac-10 to vote his way...the stand alone against it?
Of course, Pete Carroll.
As I mentioned above PC has seen first hand the dangers on the sidelines during practice and we have all witnessed what can happen during the games (anyone remember JoPa getting nailed a couple of years ago?). It aint pretty so why take the chance? I can see why Skippy doesn't think its a big deal, I mean its not like ucla is filling up the sidelines during their practices, it's a ghost town at their practices, event the open ones while USC is ALWAYS jam packed. Anyone remember Dusty Baker's kid almost getting nailed at home plate a few years ago? Live and learn...
But the weirder thing about all of this is Skippy calling Pete Carroll out.
Is he serious?
Think about it, just about every decision Skippy and ucla have made has been about beating USC. There was the monopoly ad in the LAT and the crazy speeches during halftime at Pauley all designed to get the bruin faithful fired up but it always turns into "we're going to stick it to those guys across town". Pete Carroll may have made the occasional reference to beating ucla when he first got here but the message has always been clear win the Pac-10 no matter who we are going up against. Slick Rick so desperately wants to be like SC that he has tailored much of his program to be just like SC. Heck, he even over-recruited just so he could keep up with the talent and now he has to run a bunch of players off just make room...congrats Skippy you're no different than Tim Floyd.
He is acting like the ignored child at dinner...anything to get some attention.
I watched that video and I was embarrassed. I really had to look away, there's Skippy in his best Monty Hall blazer doing his best to fire up the crowd pissing and moaning about this. I mean it was like watching a train wreck. I know of no other D-1 coach (outside of Kiffin and that is a whole other story) who acts like this.
It was funny yet sad watching Skippy get all pissed off over something like this. He spends 4-plus minutes discussuing this? I know why because there isn't much to talk about in regards to the clown show that is ucla football. They have all gone over the wall. For all I know PC voted against just to see what reaction he could get out of Skippy and believe me he sure didn't disappoint.
He had the crowd, he had the jacket so why didn't he just whip a wad of bills and play Lets Make a Deal? He would have gotten a better result. Instead he looked like a poor mans Rodney Dangerfield...No (self) Respect.
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Pete Carroll probably voted that way
Because a very young kid, 9 or 10 I think, was taken out by a wide receiver at practice a few seasons ago. Players are watching the ball, and very often go plowing into the sidelines. I’m not saying that Neuheisel wouldn’t make sure that his kids were out of harms way, but I think he needs to appreciate where Carroll is coming from.
The Dusty Baker incident is proof enough that young kids can get hurt at a sporting event. Now Mark McGuire’s son was there when his father broke the steroid home run record, and that went off just fine.
I think its ok to have kids on the field, but not on the sideline. They should be back near the bench, and out of harms way.
Absolutely
Slick Rick should understand that if a safety like Taylor Mays comes charging down the sideline and accidentally crashes into one of the little Ricky’s, slight concussion would be a happy outcome. An MCL or ACL tear may not be out of the question. Just ask JoePa or Fat Charlie.
It’s one thing when an adult gets hit, another thing if an 8 year old daughter of a coach gets hit. Of course, such outcome is beyond stupid Ruin coach’s (not to mention Mushroom’s crew of morons) comprehension.
Simple Solution
If a coach wants his kids on the side line, have them sign some type of liability release form. If the kid gets blasted, well it’s dad’s fault. It would seem to me though, that the Dusty Baker situation is probably the exception, not the rule. Unfortunate but rare.
I think Nue is pissed because he takes this personally as it directly affects his sons. I’m not so sure I dig the way he responded to this one though. I haven’t thought much about it, but why announce the vote in public? Maybe get the public to lobby Carrol to vote the other way?
There is no way that Skippy is happy that this got out
no hiding behind the administration…those are his words.
Problem is nobody cares about a release of liability when somebody actually gets hurt.
I’m kinda sorry that a) PC was called out, and b) RN decided to make it a big deal. Hell yes we Bruins are going to rally around “beating the folks across town” (c’mon guys, you’re the current gold-standard in college football)… but it shouldn’t be about this.
Doesn't really matter at this point
I can see that he would throw some red meat to the crowd but this is just shameful. I mean 4 minutes, then saying he didn’t want to name names but that’s what he did 3 minutes before?
I can see that he wants to get some attention for your program but this isn’t the way to do it.
Anyway…he is the gift that keeps on giving.
Rick missed his calling
Preacher Rick should start his own Religion The Church of Sideline and Bleacher Thoughts.
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 8, 2009 5:14 PM PDT reply actions
Just watched the video
You would think that the bruins would have enough motivation to get up for the USC game without their coach complaining about whether or not his sons are on the sideline. I guess that the numerous lopsided victories weren’t personal enough for the bruins to want revenge. I can see it now “Well 66-17 made us mad, but now that you voted against having underage kids on the sidelines…. ohhh…. that makes us so mad now that we are coming for you Carroll…. we mean business now…… now its personal.”
He really is small minded
that was just embarrassing. its all going to back fire on him.
I can only imagine the response over at you know where but i haven’t looked yet.
I guess my point was
I don’ see why 9 losses out of 10 seasons, and no Rose Bowl wins since 1986 isn’t enough to motivate you or your fans.
by frak on Jun 8, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
A few articles involving football players and kids
March 2008- LA Times Gary Klein
On Sunday, wide receiver Damian Williams was nearly undone by the Trojans’ welcome mat. Williams, who has been enjoying a highlight-reel spring, was knocked out of practice after twisting his ankle while avoiding a collision with a child. “I was trying not to hit that little kid,” Williams said. “I didn’t want to take him into the wall.”
April 2007- AP
A 4-year-old boy was recovering from a deep cut to his head after Colorado State wide receiver George Hill collided with him during CSU’s spring game. Hill was catching a touchdown pass when his momentum carried him into Caden Thomas on the sidelines Saturday. Caden was among several kids playing on the sidelines as part of a kids’ festival at Hughes Stadium, said Caden’s father, Mike Thomas.
After watching that video of the kid getting hit.
Where do you draw the line for coaches sons. Obviously Neuheisel’s kids are 12 and older. But doesn’t there have to be some sort of age limit. Having someone sign a waiver doesn’t excuse the fact that it just may be putting a child into a very dangerous environment. Sometimes parents need to be saved from bad judgements. Dusty Baker experienced that first hand during the world series.
"Sometimes parents need to be saved from bad judgements."
Give frak a prize! Dude, you said it all right there.
And Coach is doing just that for the man.
Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"
by BixBeiderbecke on Jun 8, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Neuweasel the Macho Man!
I have a slightly different take. First of all, I think Damian Williams was out of practice for several days, and gimpy from the sprained ankle that he suffered avoiding the sideline’s child for a few weeks.
On Rick the Macho Man, I simply believe he is too smart to have reacted based on pure emotion. I will reluctantly admit that he is a sharp cookie. Must be to get into SC Law. This is all strategic, sensationalized, trash-talk hype in an attempt to rally his moribund fan base. Reminiscent of a Vince McMahon WWE show with the Macho Man. Rick the Macho Man, “Ooooh Yeeeeeah, snap into a Slim Jim, brother!” It’s as real as wrestling. But, silly, gullible Bruins will take the bait, as they have nothing else to get excited about.
PC would be justified to be concerned about child safety, player safety, inequitable treatment of the rest of the coaching staff, the potential for abuse by allowing non-family members on the sidelines (recruits), or a concern about sideline organization and order. Whatever. Remember, Ricky Rojas? All Neuweasel needs to do is make his sons official assistants of the program.
This is 100% pure, contrived hype by the Weasel. And, highly entertaining. YOUR SMACKDOWN IS COMING, RICK BROTHER, OOOOOH YEAAAAAAAH!
Finally watched entire video
…and, even though it was an alumni setting, it was still highly inappropriate to say “take that one coach down”. Beat USC, kick our butts on the field, sure, but for one coach to say that he’s going to take down another coach, that is just wrong. Reckless, fervent enthusiasm from the Neuweasel. His greatest strength is his greatest weakness. He looks silly and foolish, and needs to be taken out behind the woodshed.
OK, so I finally saw the video
Is this man insane? So, he said he’d go to bat for his sons? Fine. He did. Didn’t work out, but c’mon now! Do you have to take your “slight” public? I mean, dude. You just called out the most competitive m-fer this side of Michael Jordan. Not sure if that was a good move. You see, Coach Carroll is not known to run-up scores on his opponents. He coulda BLASTED many different teams on many different occasions, but he didn’t. He has some degree of respect for fellow coaches and players.
Not this year ya douchebag! Oh Coach Neu, you can count your QB’s. . . .you’ll get yours this year. You’ll get yours. You wanna see how a programs run? You wanna see the playbook opened up? You wanna see a complete beatdown after your public promise of “getting after this coach”?
Too bad. You’re gonna.
Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"
Right...
Like the last two years because he didn’t want to embarrass us right? Even though, in your words, he is super competitive and sometimes doesn’t shake the other coach’s hand after the game? So which is he? “I am but mad north-north-west: when the wind is southerly I know a hawk from a handsaw”
So you turn this all around on CRN when Pete is the obvious chickenshit. But he is doing it out of humanitarian reasons even though the other 9 coaches thought it was okay. He is the only one who has the welfare of these boys in mind. Yeah right.
So I say bring it on. Maybe you can beat us by more than 20 points this year.
P.S. I bet at this year’s game we show up with our home uniforms and Pete doesn’t call the timeout.
by Bruins102NCAA on Jun 9, 2009 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions
"I am mad north-north-west: when the wind is. . . . "
That’s some good shit right there, buddy! (BOOM! Roasted) It’s the “obvious chickenshit” part that’s a little pear-shaped for me?
It could be either:
1. Coach Carroll did it on purpose to fuck Coach Neu’s plan all up.
2. Coach C voted against Neu’s agenda because it’s REALLY a concern of his.
3. Coach Neu got no love from Coach C because of all his recent shenanigans this past year, why give the m-fer a bone when he obviously lied about telling recruits that Coach Norton would someday soon be his D coordinator.
4. Coach C is just a total prick, and is set on watching Coach Neu burn.
5. Coach C will only kick Coach Neu something down when THEY’RE BOTH ICE SKATING IN HELL!
Other than that, I gotta better idea- you all show up in home uniforms AND OUR TEAM RUNS TOWARDS THE STANDS AND THEY ALL JUMP OVER THE WALLS AND INTO THE SEATED STADIUM AND DO A SLOW-CLAP FOR YOU’ALL- THEREBY NEGATING THE TIME-OUT. (we’ll get hit with a delay of game)
The slow-clap should be funny as hell.
Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"
by BixBeiderbecke on Jun 9, 2009 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I like one answer
And the quote is from Hamlet. Hamlet quotes never settle arguments and wasn’t intended to here.
I agree that the gamesmanship angle has merit but I think it is moving more towards being ticky-tack instead of a masterful stroke. Let me put it this way, I would have preferred more tact: we are talking about the guy’s kids for Christ’s Sake.
BTW the scene you painted is going to give me nightmares.
by Bruins102NCAA on Jun 9, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't be a douche, try not to live up to all of my expectations
Yeah Skippy is real clasy calling out a coach who took a stand for safety reasons. He didn’t get his way…..waaaaaaaaah cry me a river.
I don’t think this a big deal but I can see where PC is coming from. This aint take your kids to work day, I never have and never will bring my kids to work because of safety reasons, I say go ahead put ’em on the sidelines if they get drilled come on back and let us know how it all worked out.
If you don’t like it don’t come back…you won’t be missed
Safety reasons?
As much as I appreciate what Pete has done for the kid, please explain Ricky Rosas—-the 4’6" developmentally disabled kid they let on the sidelines during games. Or at least that is the impression I got.
Before I hear anything about CRN’s kids being disabled, something that would really be a slap to this kid, let’s examine precisely what is the problem. Rosas was under 18 when he started on the sidelines. Anyone under 18 should not be allowed according to Carroll. So basically, it’s okay when I do it, but not okay when you do it.
by Bruins102NCAA on Jun 9, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You're back??
Don’t really know about Rosas…but if he is on the sidelines its not right where the action is. I am pretty sure that is what PC is voting against here.
There is not a greater conspiracy here and if even if there is, is anyone surprised? That is Skippy’s way, he can’t just focus on his gig he has to make it about somebody else. Just like a petulant child.
Dose anyone think that it could be the other way around that maybe Slick Rick got all the coaches together to tweak Pete Carroll? That wouldn’t surprise me either…all these guys have egos and all have some form of pettiness…welcome to college football. Anything to try and throw the other guy off his game.
Simply put if its found that Rosas is on the sidelines near the action, which I doubt then I will be the first to call PC out.
Make you feel better?
Now go get my Pizza…
Maybe the reason that he didnt shake Dorrells hand
was because Dorrell kept him waiting for a minute at mid field after the 13-9 victory because he was too busy celebrating. That might have had something to do with it.
BTW the NCAA changed the uniform rule. As long as the teams agree on the uniforms, and they are of contrasting colors, there is no penalty. So Pete can’t screw you guys over, even if he wanted to. Sorry.
Well
He talked trash last year, and now he is down one coaching ninja. He only has 2 seasons of Chow left before he bolts. Why not step up the rhetoric.
All kidding aside
Whatever your opinion of RN is, at least the man has a pulse. Sometimes I wondered if Dorrell was still alive out there on the sideline, during interviews, etc….
102 Mostly Womens sssssssSports
You are such a tough guy, maybe you should have played fouls-ball at Bruin central with your fight they probably might have a Trojan Bowl game. Just remember you are the TENANT and We are the LANDLORD in Pasadena.
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 9, 2009 7:01 AM PDT reply actions
Let me explain something
We have 104 now. Next up, we have the second most women’s championships, Stanford, the second overall has the most. We have the second most men’s. USC, which is third overall, has the most of that type.
So you see. We have a balanced athletics program. What is wrong with that? Isn’t that what college athletics are about? Or is it about one sport?
If you want the Rose Bowl, come take it ’cause win or lose, we actually care about our football team.
by Bruins102NCAA on Jun 9, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yawn.....
Change your handle then. We don’t keep track, don’t really care if it’s 104 or 1004.
go pat yourself on the back over there.
ucla competes in a lot of sports that USC does not
also the NCAA does not recognize a football national champ, which just happens to be the sport almost everyone cares about. If they did that, we would be right at the top with ucla and all their gymnastic championships.
also.. if you care about your football program
why not gloat about all the success that you’ve had in that sport rather than women’s rowing.
I guess you would say UCLA is a WOMENS COLLEGE
When did they let the guys go there, I mean I thought they were pretty tough for an all women’s FB team.
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 10, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
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