USC Basketball Notes...Tim Floyd's "public conviction" and an interesting take from Bob Condotta
Just a couple of things I wasn't able to get to this week...
Andy Katz has an interesting piece on why Tim Floyd resigned. Some of this has been seen elsewhere but there is some interesting insight from just what Floyd was thinking and how he felt a lack of enthusiam to coach at USC anymore. What is telling here is Katz's source claims that USC told Floyd couldn't speak about the charges something that we pretty much figured but also that Floyd did want to speak out. I don't think this really a surprise at all. It is a normal reaction that anyone who is accused of wrongdoing wants to fight for their good name.
The source said that Floyd had been told not to speak by USC officials. The source said Floyd wanted to say that the allegations made by former Mayo inner circle member Louis Johnson to Yahoo! Sports were "not true and didn't happen."
The source stated that Floyd said, "'I don't have to do this.' He always said if he's not having fun at it then he won't do it. He has plenty of money. It became a situation where this isn't what he signed up for. It sounds simple but it was the bottom line."
The source said he wasn't sure if there was a negotiated buyout with Floyd. USC spokesperson James Grant said that he couldn't comment on any personnel matters.
"At the end of the day, Tim had had enough," the source said.
Arkansas State coach John Brady, a good friend of Floyd's, told ESPN's Kelly Naqi that Floyd had been thinking about resigning "for a while. This basketball business is something now. There's a lot of opportunities for booby traps. I think Tim is at a point with what he's been through and all the success he's had, I think the SC job, all of the circumstances [culminating with the Yahoo! report that Floyd paid Guillory $1,000], I think got to be too much. He didn't feel enthusiasm anymore because of all the speculation and he chose to walk. I think it was more frustrating than anything else."
A lot of us were perplexed at Floyd's silence but most of us figured that it was school pulling the stings to ensure that silence.
That had to be tough for Floyd...being forced to keep silent while your reputation is being ripped to shreds in the public areana while behind your back the AD is lining you up for a mortar strike.
Of course, Floyd is not blameless here...a lot of the fans frustration can be traced to two things. 1) That he and/or Mike Garrett allowed Guillory to be around the program given Guillory's past, opening up the program to increased scrutiny and 2) some of Floyd's moves both on and off the court, including the appearance of running off layers and his flirtation with Arizona mere hours after telling his players that they needed to stay in school and not jump to the NBA. Floyd burned a lot of fan loyalty with the AZ dance alone. No one could see Marcus Johnson forgoing his final year of eligibilty...especially after the staff worked their butts off to get it for MJ. That's the straw that broke the camels back.
Where it goes from here is anybody's guess but down is the most likely direction.
That brings us to Bob Condotta and his column looking at the situation.
But when the dust settles, you wonder if this might finally be the time USC figures out how to find some longterm happiness in men's basketball. UW hoops fans, I understand fully, have no problem with the Trojans remaining in the relative hinterlands forever --- Floyd's three straight NCAA appearances the last three years were the best sustained run ever for the Trojans, which seems kind of hard to believe for a school of that stature and with its resources. Even then, however, USC seemed just good enough to make the tournament, not necessarily a threat to become a permanent power,
But an objective view is to look at the Floyd resignation and wonder why it is that the Trojans keep pulling face plants when it comes to men's basketball.
I think Condotta makes some good points. USC basketball does seem to have a bit black cloud over it that occasionally parts from time to time allowing USC to get competitive only to see the skies darken and open up with a torrential downpour washing away all of that short lived success.
Floyd did pretty good in his four years here. He went to the Sweet Sixteen in 2007, exited the in the first round in 2008 and made it to the 2nd round in 2009 only to beaten this years by runner-up Michigan State.
Yes, there were some issues outside of the elephant in the room but he did a decent job.
I do think its kind of funny that a respected writer from Seattle is making some of these comments. I think some of them are spot on but its not like UW has done a lot recently. Romar has had similar successes as well with one extra sweet sixteen with a team that should have gone a little bit deper in the tournament than that.
In the end it doesn't really matter...Floyd is gone the program is in shambles and that is before we get the call from the NCAA....
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This shows that something that PC said on the coaches’ tour is at least partially true. “When you are at the top, everyone tries to bring you down.” Admittedly, it is football, not hoops, that is the envy of the country. And the nation is all to eager to kick SC while we’re down, for any reason. In fact, the MSM has their hands dirty as being an integral player in bring us down. Too bad that you can say just about anything you want on the Internets and someone will believe you.
After going through initial emotions of denial, sadness, and anger, I am now feeling more optimistic. It is still quite possible to get a good coach and save Gary Franklin in the 2010 class. If we at least do that, then SC hoops will be back soon. Add in a saved recruit or two from this season with Leonard, Nicola, Kasey, and Alex, and SC hoops is far from dead. I am really jonesing for either Robinson, Theus, or Dixon.
And, I bet that Coach Floyd is the new LSU coach for the 2010 season too. It is always darkest before the dawn.
by DFWTrojan on Jun 14, 2009 7:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you can never tell dallas oh and sorry my Dodgers beat your Rangers
42-22 baby first the Lakers than the Dodgers than Sc football and ucla 3-9 go Weasell
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 14, 2009 11:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm an Astro!
and, suffering greatly this season. the Bagwell, Biggio, Berkman hay days are long gone.
by DFWTrojan on Jun 15, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its hard to take a stand with Floyd
when he doesn’t lift a finger to defend himself. Dave makes some great points about the accuser, and the charges, but I would really like to hear Floyd deny the charges.
Heres a quote from Scott Wolf’s blog:
bq.There’s a defense emerging for Tim Floyd’s resignation from his friends. It goes something like this: Floyd could not reclaim his reputation following the allegation he paid $1,000 to Rodney Guillory and even though he considered the charge outlandish, there was no way to disprove it. With the allegation (and NCAA investigation) paralyzing the program and tainting him personally, he became fed up and felt the only way to handle it was to make a quick exit.
With all that said, why not come out and say that you aren’t guilty. According to this rumor here, Floyd’s friends said that he felt like the charges tainted his reputation despite being false. My view is that if Floyd came out and threw down on the accuser, I personally would believe him over Johnson, and the media probably would too.
by frak on Jun 15, 2009 8:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree Frak that Tim not defending himself is kind of fishy
Regardless of the outcome it is really important that they get a new coach, waiting to long will only put the program way back.
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 15, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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