LA Times reports merger of NCAA investigations of Bush, Mayo
The LA Times reported today that the NCAA is combining their investigations of improper benefits received by Reggie Bush and O.J. Mayo. This claim is being made by the lawyers of Louis Johnson, the individual who first made the allegations that Mayo had been receiving illegal benefits while enrolled at USC. Currently this has not been confirmed by the NCAA.
Long-time readers of this blog may remember that we have been pretty consistent on the subjects of Bush and Mayo. There's no question that Bush and his family took improper benefits, but equally there's a legitimate argument to be made that the benefits were channeled in such a way as to evade compliance processes. Whereas most compliance regimes are designed to catch boosters providing benefits to students, they are not designed to monitor student's families.
However, and again this is a point we've made consistently, it is significantly harder to make that argument in the case of Mayo, for three reasons: 1) Mayo came after Bush, 2) Mayo was accompanied by Rodney Guillory, who had already been involved in NCAA sanctions against USC's basketball team; and, 3) there's a well known culture of corruption in youth basketball that outstrips anything one might find in football.
One might note in response that Mayo was cleared by the NCAA, but in fairness, what's that's worth? And, if you have to ask for a pre-emptive clearance, isn't that a message in itself?
In any case, with those three differences between Bush and Mayo, a good number of Trojan fans and alumni had the following reaction to the Mayo allegations: "What the hell were you thinking?!"
However, that doesn't get you to the leap made by Louis Johnson's attorney Anthony V. Salerno, who is quoted in the LA Times as follows:
"It makes sense," Salerno said. "The NCAA looks at the program as a whole, and you may be talking about systemic problems in these cases of payments by agents. Yes, these were different teams and coaches. Rather than do it piecemeal, look at the institution."
This is the sort of self-serving distortion that any good lawyer should be able to spout, but does it hold up? That seems doubtful. In both cases, disgruntled former associates blew the whistle on violations when, and only when, they lost on their end of the deal. If there have been systemic payments on a large scale, then that would require that not only was the compliance office failing to catch the activities outside of the normal scope of surveillance (Bush), but also that they were failing to catch more conventional corruption on a grand scale (everyone else). There's simply no evidence that this is the case: if the problem were pervasive, then other disgruntled associates would be lined up to talk to the NCAA with their lawyers in tow, stepping over the players who weren't able to cover their tracks. Two cases out of hundreds of athletes over the time that Bush and Mayo spent at USC don't add up to systemic abuse.
The closest thing to a "systemic" problem is bad judgment in the Athletic Department. In the wake of the Bush imbroglio, they decided to accept a basketball recruit associated with a known problem of a representative, Guillory. Guillory had prior form with sanctions at USC. Guillory was allowed to hang around the Galen Center. And Mayo was engaged not just by Floyd but also by Mike Garrett, who wanted to be sure that Mayo wouldn't screw with SC's APR by checking out after the basketball season was over. There were multiple risk factors, and as anyone with any background in management will tell you, if you have a risk associated with an action, you either accept the risk and mitigate it along the way, or you *don't take the risk in the first place.*
The reason that Mayo's lawyers can blithely make accusations of systemic abuse in the case of 2 athletes, out of the hundreds who have gone through SC without accusation over the same time frame as Bush and Mayo, is that after being caught out by the Bush case, the Athletic Department did not reject the risk associated with Mayo, and they plainly didn't manage the risk either. And that, ultimately, falls at Mike Garrett's door.
If the NCAA has in fact merged these investigations, it suggests that they are less likely to come out with some damning evidence on one instance or the the other. Merge the investigations, and there's a chance to use the surface logic of two closely consecutive cases to suggest that there are institutional control problems. That's a harder issue to answer, and perhaps it offers the NCAA a chance to rap the Athletic Department's knuckles.
In turn, it seems incumbent upon the powers that be at USC to ask some questions not just about day-to-day compliance management, but the bigger picture of what's really being done to manage the Athletic Department and the guidance and direction they provide to the programs under their authority. Because if they aren't learning from these two cases, there's always a chance that some other athlete will decide to take advantage, and that can only be explained away for so long.
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Only one thing I want to know...
Who, if anyone, is culpable within the USC? Clearly something is going on, but on the surface it seems like SC was not completely aware of the whole Bush thing and it appears that the school certainly did the due diligence on Mayo by having the NCAA approve him before they formally extended an offer. Who knows, there could be a terminal case of willful ignorance going around the athletic department. Nice writeup.
There are 2 damaging possibilities
1. Todd McNair possibly knew that Bush was dirty, and said nothing
2. Floyd allowed Guillory near the program, when he shouldn’t have.
The McNair thing is hard to prove, but there is no argument that Floyd shouldn’t have let Guillory anywhere near hertiage hall, not to mention the Galen Center unless he bought a ticket from the box office.
The whole thing is how is this control thing even viable.
There is no way a any institution or company could possibly know every little detail of everyones life and family, it will not stick. Unless the coaches and school were part of what went on, it is not like booster cases because school knows about them. I guess the school will have to have personal agents following everyone around to make sure that all is up to code. BS all of this
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Apr 10, 2009 3:44 AM PDT reply actions
Institutional Control
Is a nebulous thing. Which is why it’s such a difficult and dangerous penalty.
Actually, it’s not all BS. Reggie Bush’s family had very little money, everyone knows that. But he shows up his final year in a tricked $14,000 Impala. Granted, it wasn’t DeShawn Foster brand new SUV, but still.
OK, Pete’s a good guy and tends to see the positive in things. The football staff is busy. The Bush stuff happens one hundred miles away, far off campus. No boosters are involved. On campus, at a surface level, everything looks clean. Players aren’t completely out of control, the program for the most part is humming along.
There is no reason why CPC and the staff should have known. They could have, but really, is it there job?
Floyd, however, there is no excuse. Lloyd Lake never hung around practice. Rodney Guillory did. No excuse at all. But that’s what you get with Timmy.
However, the Athletic Department could have, should have known. That’s what they are supposed to do. That’s what the NCAA is looking at. And this is where Mike Garrett comes into play.
Shit is starting to roll down hill and it’s gathering at Mike Garrett’s feet.
My guess (and yours is as good as mine), is that the basketball violations turn out to be more egregious than football, football takes a little hit, basketball takes a big hit, neither Floyd nor Garrett survive.
Impala
You can take a loan against your son’s pending NFL salary. That’s apparently legitimate. It’s easy to write off a new car to something like that. Not the smartest response, but easy.
Which might be why Pete and the coaches or the players never thought it a big deal.
But where was the Athletic Department in all of this?
Maybe they were all over it, and Reggie stone-walled them, or had a good excuse. But the problem is with Rodney Guillory hanging around in the locker room and at the Galen Center, and Floyd’s package deals (legal, but suspicious) it gives the impression of lack of institutional control from the Athletic Department.
If I’m reading between the lines correctly (and I could be wrong), the merger of the investigations means that the investigation has switched from the players and the coaches to the athletic department. It also means that the NCAA really wants to levy some sanction, but couldn’t by looking at the Bsuh and Mayo thing separately, because they didn’t have they evidence. But lack of institutional control? It means whatever the NCAA wants it to mean, which can’t be good for the school.
Remember, 20 years ago, John Robinson stepped down, Marv Goux was banned from campus, and the entire Athletic Department turned over due to the ticket and other related scandal, USC was banned from bowls games and gave up scholarships and the entire balance of power if Pac 10 football changed due to what was essentially a lack of institutional control issue within the AD. I remember reading in the LAT that the NCAA actually considered the death penalty until JR took one for the school, and the SMU investigation found violations that made USC’s look like a minor, self-reporting recruiting infraction.
Yeap!
the merger of the investigations means that the investigation has switched from the players and the coaches to the athletic department. It also means that the NCAA really wants to levy some sanction, but couldn’t by looking at the Bsuh and Mayo thing separately, because they didn’t have they evidence. But lack of institutional control? It means whatever the NCAA wants it to mean, which can’t be good for the school.
As I have written elsewhere this is like Article 34, Part © of the UCMJ…
…© If the charges or specifications are not formally correct or do not conform to the substance of the evidence contained in the report of the investigation officer, formal corrections, and such changes in the charges and specifications as are needed to make them conform to the evidence, may be made.
They can’t nail SC on the actual infractions so they go to the “catch all” charge or General Article as we called it in the military to try and nail them.
That could be trouble for the NCAA for two reasons…(1) By claiming that SC had a lack of institutional control implies that SC should have an intelligence arm to monitor or snoop into the financial dealings of their players parents. Now I am not a lawyer but to me that could be construed as an invasion of privacy and trampling on their 4th amendment rights and/or (2) Mayo was cleared by the NCAA PRIOR to his admission to USC showing that the NCAA bungeled their scrutiny of Mayo.
It’s not like Guillory just showed up when Mayo got on Campus…he was the one that set Floyd up with Mayo. Guillory’s connection to Mayo goes back a ways yet they found nothing wrong? You mean all this started once Mayo was admitted to USC?
Not likely.
To me, at least in regards to Mayo, its not so much as to who is telling the truth but more who was asleep at the switch. If the NCAA cleared Mayo yet he was taking money what does that say about their investigation of him prior to his arrival at USC?
They blew it and now they have to salvage it.
This could be and probably is more about saving face because they have hit a brick wall in trying to get to the bottom of it…
Yes I agree and further more los angeles would be very very upset with Ncaa
USC football is the only thing close to a pro team, something LA hasn’t had since the 90s. So they take some rides and that be that. But I will say this what was GARRETT thinking when he let Guillory back in, what did G-man buy him that piece of crap Lexus
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Apr 10, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
USC Compliance Department Should Be Fired
….if we receive sanctions. I believe we have a full NCAA compliance team on staff. The coaches are too darn busy to monitor agents off campus. How can you police your players off campus? How can you control what their parents do? Keeping Guillory out of the locker room does appear to me a serious error. But, our USC Compliance team should have been all over this. I find it hard to blame the coaches at all.
We are in LA. We are the highest profile sports department in the country. There are millions of dollars involved. It is simply impossible to police everything. Bad people will find a way to do bad things. And, when you are at the top, like USC, everyone else is just trying to drag you down.







