Two Quick SC Hoops Notes
by Laughing Stock on Apr 8, 2009 6:42 PM PDT
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Leaving: DeMar DeRozan
Staying: Taj GibsonThat's the latest from a source within the program.
This news along with the post by Paragon earlier I think pretty much makes it official. Can't say I begrudge Demar too much and I wish him the best of luck in the NBA. However, if the team can return everyone else, USC will be in great shape to have a historical type season next year (think a potential conference championship and elite eight or better in the tourney). Then again, there have been some odd rumblings about Daniel Hackett going pro, which would be a very tough blow.
Also, today Mark Trakh "resigned" from his job as the head coach of USC women's basketball. Trakh had done an excellent job recruiting for the Troans, bringing in a number of McDonald's All Americans, but a combination of untimely inuries and mediocre coaching resulted in one too many dissappointing seasons. If the athletic department can find a good coach then the talent is already in place to hit the ground running. Fun Fact: USC has two national championships in women's basketball, and two of the sports most famous players (Lisa Leslie and Cheryl Miller) were Trojans.
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Hey LS what's up?
Ain’t got no “j” too. Like Ason Kidd?
There are two “ob” words in your post. It took me to get to the second “ob” when I realized- hey what’s up with Laughing Stock’s “j”?
Ain’t got no J eh? Who’da thunk “our basketball guy” ain’t got no J.
Wanna play horse? For money? (gotta make up for my loss in the UNC/MSU game ;- )
Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"
Yeah...
I don’t know what the heck is up with my keyboard at home. I think I might have to pull off the key and see if something is wrong.
…and HORSE for money? Just name the time and place man, I don’t know if you realize what you are getting into though!
by Laughing Stock on Apr 9, 2009 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay, okay.
If you’re THAT good, maybe will play “United States of America”- I’m not all that. But I can hit a lot of shots from a lot of places- so long as I ain’t got no one in my face.
I don’t get it? I can hit 3-pointer from all around the arc. In a game, I won’t even try one.
And you?
Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"
by BixBeiderbecke on Apr 9, 2009 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I talk a big game...
But in reality I’m a pretty streaky shooter. I lead my IM team in three pointers though, for whatever the heck that’s worth!
by Laughing Stock on Apr 9, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, so you HAVE been playing lately, in IM
Those were the days. I’m an old-fart compared.
I haven’t played pick-up in days. I grapple, surf, play some Ultimate, run from time to time, go on a long ride on my bike about 3 – 5 times a month, and that’s about it. What’s weird is, about 2 Christmas’ ago- I FINALLY got a badass indoor/outdoor basketball from my Secret Santa. (my old bball. . . . I’ve had for like 13 years. it was so old, whenever I aired it up- it sounded like those red-plastic balls in grade school. had a mad “ting” to it!) Yet. . . .I rarely get that new ball out much. Played with it barely 10 times. Never played it in a 2-on-2 or nothing.
I’m rusty. But maybe sometime before summer. I’m on the Westside- Ocean Park/Venice area. End of Ocean Park at the beach (near the tennis courts/Twin Towers), Virginia Street Park on Pico/Cloverfield, and Mar Vista park on Palms/Sawtelle have the best surfaces near me. What about you? I work in downtown 2 days a week, but mostly in Thousand Oaks. Where would be a good set-up for you. Maybe on a weekend morning, or Thursday nights are the best for me.
We should do this. I was actually toying with the idea of seeing who here at Conquest Chronicles like playing football? I’d love to get a 5on5, 7on7 or whatever game with some of y’all. Tackle, touch, or flag? I don’t care. I love playing football. (I’m way better at it than basketball, that’s for sure)
Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"
by BixBeiderbecke on Apr 9, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
You're on
What about the courts behind PSX on campus? This saturday or sunday morning work fine for me (just not too early), and the loser can buy lunch.
by Laughing Stock on Apr 10, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It's to the point that I don't really care who goes or stays . But the BS NCAA should make it if you want a free ride you must stay 3yrs
If you don’t you will have to pay 10x tuition or do 86yrs in the pen.
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Apr 8, 2009 10:37 PM PDT reply actions
They just need to adopt baseball's rules
You can go pro out of high school, but if you attend college then you must stay 3 years.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Apr 8, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
YESSSS!!!!
Agree Rye. The age 19 draft requirement is the stupidest rule of all time. How could the NCAA possibly think that using college as a one year farm system would be good for student athletes or the college game? I assume that the NBA and NCAA worked on this together. You can go to war at 18, but can’t go to the NBA at 18? Un-frkn-believably stupid!
According to the LA Times Hackett is declaring and hiring an agent
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Apr 8, 2009 11:36 PM PDT reply actions
Rye what up with that, If he is lucky 2nd round.
I could see him testing the waters but hiring an agent I don’t get it, somethings up but at least He stayed 3.
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Apr 9, 2009 4:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think he'll make it in the NBA
but will be able to head to Europe and make a good living playing somewhere he’s familiar with and where his game fits the style of play better.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Apr 9, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Italy?
Just a hunch.
Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"
by BixBeiderbecke on Apr 9, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Agree
But, if he’s only one year away from a degree and the Trojans are serious conference championship contenders, why not wait one more year? Italy will still be there in 2010.
Serious Question
I get that you have some good recruits coming in.. and if Taj and Hackett come back it’d be a relatively solid team.. Derozan is basically gone…
Do you think you can go from a .500 regular season to serious contender that fast? I would really like to see your work on that. (not being sarcastic, just seriously curious)
Hey homeys!
It’s the freaking PAC 10! Parity (as a word) is like “irregardless” to me. It’s a word yeah, but I don’t like it. Especially when it’s used incorrectly. But. . . .the PAC 10 has some serious rivalries afoot and afield. Y’all should know this best bruin-boys! Everybody gives your guys their best games. They hate you in Palo Alto as much as they hate you in Tucson. They hate you in Seattle as much as they hate you in Jefferson Park.
We lost some games last year, no question about it. Some of them we could have pulled-out and didn’t, others. . . we blew big leads and just didn’t finish very well. I’m not saying we “should have been” anything better than where we ended up, but c’mon now! When Arizona finishes as a tied for 4th place team????
Yeah, you guys owned us this year.
But I’ll also say, YAH! We’ll be better than .500 next year. And you know what? You’re 13-5 record might just win the conference for us next year? (maybe? maybe so.) So, we’ll likely have about 4 more wins next year (I’m speaking out my arse right now. i don’t have time to look up next year’s schedule and i’m getting a little hot under the collar. you two are inching close to getting on my last 2 remaining nerves that I have left this morning) and hopefully. Hopefully, we take two from you guys next year. Trojans over Bruins in basketball is HUGE! Bruins over Trojans is . . . expected.
Now if we can get some people to attend those games?
Conf All
Washington (15) 14-4 26-9
UCLA (18) 13-5 26-9
Arizona St. (19) 11-7 25-10
California 11-7 22-11
USC 9-9 22-13
Arizona 9-9 21-14
Washington St. 8-10 17-16
Oregon St. 7-11 18-18
Stanford 6-12 20-14
Oregon 2-16 8-23
Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"
by BixBeiderbecke on Apr 10, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
The Cupboard is Not Bare
But, losing Taj, Demar and Hack is a serious blow. Hack will by far be the most difficult to replace. But, high turnover is the name of the game in college hoops these days, right? I do think the team below can compete for a conference title, but they could also have poor chemistry, not gel, finish .500. Hope springs eternal. But, on paper, I think this team matches up favorably with anyone in conference. Remember, the Bruins lose Aboya, Shipp and DC, right? Zona will lose Jorand and Budinger for sure. Harden and Pendergraph are gone. UW should be good next year. Here’s my 2010 Trojans, and please tell me on paper, who is better:
PG – Gerrity/Solomon Hill (Gerrity former CIF Southern PoY)
SG – Dwight Lewis (Trojans leading scorer)
SF – Noel Johnson (4 star recruit, sweet shot, NBA lineage)
PF – Alex Stepheson (UNC transfer, starter experience, a star in practice at SC)
C – Renardo Sydney (arguably highest impact HS recruit in nation this year)
Bench – Leonard Washington, Marcus Simmons, Marcus Johnson, Vucevic, Donte Smith, Derrick Williams, PG recruit MoMo Jones
Lewis & Gerrity will be seniors. Stepheson a JR in eligibility, I think. And, a few frosh. Unproven, inexperienced, questionable team chemistry. However, ON PAPER, this team will have tremendous talent.
Thoughts? Whose better, on paper, next season?
Dude you really don't pay attention
Gerrity is not eligible till sec. semester, so it’s works this way who ever works on their game in summer will start PG.
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Apr 10, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Genius...
Conference play doesn’t start until the second semester. The Pac-Life tourney and NCAA tourney are second semester. Yes, Gerrity will miss the first 1/3 of the season, all non-conference. Maybe the first weekend of conference games too.
College basketball is a guard's game
Not having a good PG can kill a team and if Hackett leaves, you guys won’t have one. Solomon Hill is not a PG either. He handles the ball pretty well and passes it well, but that’s for a swingman, not a PG. He’d get killed defensively if he had to guard the point.
I think SC can have a pretty good squad next year, but if Hackett leaves then you’re going to be back on the bubble IMO because college basketball is a guard’s game.
If you want a team better in the Pac 10, check out Washington. They are going to add a great freshman PG in Abdul Gaddy to the backcourt next to Thomas. They’ll still have Overton and Pondexter. They’ll have some issues up front without Brockman, but they have other solid big guys. I think they have to be the team to beat entering the year. Cal will also be very strong now that Christopher is returning to join Randall, Boykin, Gutierrez and Robertson. Those 2 will probably be the top 2 next year. If Holiday comes back then we’ll be an intriguing team with the possibility of being very good, but there will be a lot of question marks so who knows.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Apr 10, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, Young Team...
but, in the glass half full camp, it reminds me of the 2007 sweet 16 season. Gabe Pruitt was academically ineligible for fall, so Daniel Hackett graduated early to join the team and play PG. Neither Hack nor Pruitt were pure PGs and we did just fine. And, remember, Dwight Lewis was this year’s LEADING SCORER, and he is returning. I believe that Floyd will find a PG to step up next season. But, it obviously is the critical factor in our success next season.
Did Angelo Johnson make one of the worst decisions in the history of SC hoops?
Wow does anyone of you people know how good a PG Lo romar was
Well he was good enough to run in the pros for five years, not bad for a wing player that was ineligible the 2nd half of freshman year.
Look I know most just think but if they were not this before how can one that now, it is called desire and the american way. That you can be anything you want to be, you just got to believe.
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Apr 10, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions
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