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Pac 10 Roundtable: Going the Distance

This one is pretty self-explanatory:


Here's a hypothesis:  Which Pac10 team is going to go the furthest in the NCAA Tournament?

Addicted to Quack: Judging by the potential matchups, I'm going to have to go with Washington to make it the furthest. That being said, I'm having a tough time picking any Pac-10 teams to make it past the 2nd Round. Washington plays Mississippi State in the first round and if they get by them, they play would most likely play a Purdue team that they look to match up well against.

CougCenter: I hate to say Washington, since the rewarded my admiration last week by flopping against ASU in the Pac-10 Tournament, but it's hard to overlook the fact that the Huskies will essentially be playing home games in Portland. The first game is in the bag; Mississippi State, the conference tournament of perhaps the worst major conference in history, is terrible -- the Bulldogs were absolutely dismantled earlier this year by WSU. After that, they ought to be able to handle Purdue or Northern Iowa, especially with the crowd behind them. After that ... let's just say they better hope someone gets to UConn before they do.

That should be "Mississippi State, the conference tournament champion of perhaps ..."

Sorry.

California Golden Blogs: Well, I don't know anything about the rest of you mothershmuckers, but I'm certainly never listening to a single thing CougCenter ever says again.  Not after this catastrophic mishap.  To quote Dwight Scrute:  "Apology rejected!"

AZ Desert Swarm: I on the fence between Washington and Arizona State. I think that both of them have the ability and matchups to make it to the Sweet 16. Everyone here has already broken down Washington's road, with "home" court advantage, so I will dive into Arizona State. They play Temple, who has Dionte Christmas (super freak), but not really anyone else to step up against the ASU caliber of play. Next up for ASU would be Syracuse most likely, a team who, like Arizona State, can beat anybody on any night. I just think that the matchup of ASU with Pendergraph and Harden playing against Syracuse's matchup zone is going to favor ASU. After the Sweet 16, ASU would draw Oklahoma and Washington probably Memphis. I would choose ASU here.  

CougCenter: I just think it's plainly obvious that the NCAA committee got it right by selecting so many Pac-10 teams but seeding none of them higher than 4th. This is a conference filled with competitive balance, but every team has some major flaws that kept it from being a heavyweight. Could one of these teams get past the Sweet 16? Sure. But all of them could lose their first round game, too.

 

Star-divide

Conquest Chronicles (Laughing Stock): USC has a very strong chance to get to the sweet 16 with the projected matchups it has. The Trojans should open as favorites against Boston College, and I really like how we matchup with Michigan State as Taj Gibson has a decided advantage over Goran Suton and MSU likes  to run half court sets which gives SC a huge advantage as Floyd will have plenty of time to set up the defense. The draw is really lucky too as both teams are way too highly seeded. Boston College is ranked 59th by Pomeroy and 57th by Sagarin (by scoring margin), and Michigan St. is ranked 13th by Pomeroy and 15th by Sagarin. Overall, extremely favorable seeding for USC.

California Golden Blogs:  It is true that in a discussion of how far a team might go in the NCAA Tourney, it's important to look at how the team ended the regular season.  USC fans are riding high now with their red hot team steam rolling through the Pac10 Tourney.  A middle season slump seems 1,000 years ago.  We even had a discussion in this very Pac10 Roundtable about whether USC would get in and came to the collective conclusion "No." 

http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2009/3/5/780005/pac10-roundtable-3-5-09

Cal fans are feeling a lot less confident.  They went 2-4 in their last 6 games, including getting creamed by ASU on national television.  Interestingly, most Cal fans feel that Cal as sa 7 seed won't stand a chance against their 2 seed.  Yet, USC fans seem to think that USC as a 10 seed has a good shot at their 2 seed.  Interesting dynamic there, the insecurities of Cal fans v. the arrogance of USC fans (not to call Laughing Stock arrogant, but he did attend USC, so....yknow, the shoe fits). 

CougCenter: Funny that none of us are talking about the ultimate enigma, UCLA. VCU was a tough draw for them, but when they're playing hard, they can beat just about anyone. I stand by the statement that Washington will go the furthest of any Pac-10 team, but if there's one team I think that certainly has the ability to get past the Sweet 16, it's the Bruins. Anyone here think they can't get past VCU, Villanova and Duke? Outside of that first-round game, they might have the best draw of any Pac-10 team.

California Golden Blogs: UW got hosed with their matchup of Mississippi State at the 13th seed. They should be playing a midmajor. Instead they have to go through a capable Bulldog team before dealing with Purdue (dangerous team). If they get through all of that, they get UConn. Not an easy road.

Cal is in deep trouble after their first round matchup; they'd likely have to beat Memphis and Mizzou, and Mizzou TOTALLED them earlier this year.

Arizona has a decent chance to beat Utah, but after that their goose is cooked.

ASU got a death trap in Dionte Christmas and Temple in Round 1, and even if they survive that have to go through seasoned Syracuse to just escape the weekend.

USC has the potential to go as far as the Elite 8, but Louisville should end their run right there, and one bad day from a team that tends to underperform with their talent.

That leaves the Bruins, who have all the cards stacked in their favor. A public that has lost faith in their ability to perform on the big stage. A pessimistic fanbase where some Bruins fans "don't care about what happens to them" based on their effort. A relatively easy card (VCU, an undersized Villanova team that plays right into their hand, a Duke team that is their mirror equivalent or a Texas squad with so many deficiencies that are hard to name). They have a great shot at making it to at least next Sunday, and then they can throw all they can handle at a team who's never been there, whether it be Pitt, Xavier, FSU, etc.

Conquest Chronicles (Laughing Stock): I think CGB brings up a good point with respect to how recent sucesses tends to cloud one's ability to accurately predict the future, but I genuinely think that both BC and MSU are over seeded. Just compare them to their peers, which is the worst of Boston College, Cal, Texas, and Clemson? The same goes for Tom Izzo's club, I think either Memphis, Duke, or Oklahoma would be a much more intimidating draw.
 
More to the point though, I hate to say it, but I think UCLA has the best chance to go the farthest. As Jeff N pointed out, they likely get VCU, Villanova, and Duke on their way to an elite eight appearance, and none of those teams really exploit any of the Bruin's more obvious weaknesses. If they do get that far though, I really doubt they get past Pitt. The Huskies have a good chance to get far too, and I think if they are able to get through the opening rounds that they have a good chance to take down UConn as they will have trouble matching up against sub happy Washington without Dyson. After Connecticut they would then have to beat Memphis, which is very doable but still a definite challenge. All in all, it seems unlikely that the Pac 10 will see anyone move on to the final four.
 
Also just to reiterate, ASU and Cal got screwed and Arizona doesn't really belong in the tournament.

That does it for this week. Somewhat of an abrupt end, I understand, but something very important came out of this weeks roundtable. I officially declare war on California Golden Blogs. THEIR WITTY RESPITES AND BARBS DIRECTED AT THE TROJAN FAITHFUL SHALL NOT CONTINUE UNDER MY REGIME!

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Well now, hold up just one "seh-goon-doe" pardner!

(that’s Spanish for one-second)

Which DumpsterMuffin-lovin’-looney-tune wrote for CGB in this PAC-10 Roundtable? TwistNhook? or. . .or. . . wait, who else is, . . . .forgot the names of the other smarmy-misfits over there? Anyways. . . .

Okay Mr. Nobel Prize-winning-CGB-ster. . . . , firstly – Do you really think we’ve got decent path to the Elite 8? (you didn’t put any money on that, did you?). Secondly, arrogance helps keep us warm at night, there’s a lot to love about ourselves. By the way, we heard Marshawn “Dem Ain’t My Guns” Lynch plead guilty to those gun charges in Culver City. Tell me something, I understand “packing” your Glock in and around Berkeley/Oakland, but what in Tom Holmoe-hell is Marshawn doing driving around LA like he’s pretty boy Floyd doing with guns and pot in his Benz? Does he owe somebody MONEY? Is he “affiliated” with the Crips-this or the Bloods-that?

What’s he doing with those guns?

He’s a NFL-starting running back! He should have the money to hire Jean-Claude-freaking-Damme carrying an AK in both hands to handle any of “his sh_t” if he’s scared or something? That brotha needs to use some of his wealth to buy himself a perspective.

But thanks for the USC prediction. (how come it appears your prediction is sound, yet LaughingStock’s is arrogant? their similarly reached conclusions aren’t dissimilar on the whole, prejudice of perspective seems to be the only point on where they might differ? . . . I don’t know? . . . .) It’s true though, to some degree- even I liked your USC-love the best. You’re all heart homegrown.

Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"

by BixBeiderbecke on Mar 18, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Man oh man

Way to take things to a whole new level! If I ever see you I’ll have to remember to be careful about what jokes I make in your presence.

In other news, the flights are booked and the tickets are bought. I’m meeting up with the family in Minneapolis to catch some hard nosed WCHA college hockey action followed and the next I’m going to catch the hometown Bison (born in Fargo) take on Kansas followed up with watching USC curb stomp BC (hopefully). Should be a great weekend!

by Laughing Stock on Mar 18, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bix, haven’t seen ya in a while? How’s the wife and kids?

Hugs?

TYRANNICAL KING OF UC EUGENE! BRING ME THE HEAD OF SEATTLE QUACKER!

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Mar 18, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not bad, not bad Twist

Say, how’s YOUR wife and MY kids? They’re all still livin’ with you aren’t they?

Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"

by BixBeiderbecke on Mar 19, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Twist?

It’s 9:50 pm Thursday night, I just got in and opened up CC’s MarchMadnessResults. Didn’t see the exact score on Cal game, read that they lost though. Hope it wasn’t too bad. I’ll read the Chronicle and Contra Costa Times and check out what happened. Bummed for you guys. (hey, did you hear? about two weeks ago, I wrote in a few posts of mine about the season that Jerome Randle was having. I was over here → and over there <- bemoaning the fact that Jerome Randle SHOULD BE a lock on “Freshman of the Year” this year. Yeah, totally hah? Maximus Dorkus, me. Seriously, it was horrid. I felt like one of those deak-kids in “The Gashlycrumb Tinies” story by Edward Gorey. Upon the initial SHOCK of finding out that Jerome Randle is actually a Junior, I found it quite difficult to breathe yet I couldn’t believe how hard it was to even clear my throat should I should happen to feel the need to LIVE. It’s Leo! Leo’s the name of the boy in the book where he’s sitting calmly on a huge round Victorian footstool, with the look of a little boy about to pinch his loaf. Yes, the look of worry and impending pleasure. The words, “L is for Leo who swallowed some tacks.” (that’s the last time I shill for Cal. i haven’t been this wrong since Alex Smith)

Thought it might be funny for you to read such verbosity. I like to verboss? Sue me.

Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"

by BixBeiderbecke on Mar 19, 2009 10:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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