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UPDATE III (Weis apologizes): Charlie Weis takes the high road on the way out of town

I'm not a huge fan of the kinds of scrum that attend accusations of not otherwise illegal, off-field shenanigans for sporting figures. But since this is going to be approximately everywhere on the internet, we might as well address it here as well.

Rivals / Yahoo Sports published the first part of an interview between writers for Irishillustrated.com and Charlie Weis now that he's been fired as Notre Dame's head coach. In the course of some back and forth about his presentation in the media and perceptions about him in the community, Weis came out with the following:

Q: Is it frustrating to you Pete Carroll, for example, portrayed in one way…
CW: Let me ask you this question: You guys know about things that go on in different places. Was I living with a grad student in Malibu, or was I living with my wife in my house? You could bet that if I were living with a grad student here in South Bend, it would be national news. He’s doing it in Malibu and it’s not national news. What’s the difference? I don’t understand. Why is it okay for one guy to do things like that, but for me, I’m scrutinized when I swear. I’m sorry for swearing; absolve my sins.

I don't really know what to make of this. I really don't.

Let's start with Pete Carroll, because I have less to say about him: if this were true, that would be really disappointing. I don't feel the need to look at Carroll like he's a role model, and his marriage is fundamentally the business of him and his wife. But he's a prominent representative - really, the most prominent representative - of the university, as well as the figurehead of a lot of charitable work. For the good of those two things that could otherwise be damaged by a public backlash, I hope that this accusation is unfounded. No doubt we'll find out.

As for Charlie Weis... this is just petty. The sight of a man attempting to demonstrate his probity by taking a swipe at a competitor is sad, really.

Perhaps the internal justification for Weis was that he was the recipient of absurd levels of abuse relative to his actual job failings? (Absolutely it was absurd). Was he insulted unfairly? (Yes, he certainly was.) Was it out of line to criticize his family as a proxy for him? (Hell yes, people should be ashamed of themselves.)

I'll go further: Charlie Weis did a lot of good things while he was at Notre Dame. He showed kindness to families (such as that opening play against Washington a couple of seasons ago), he does a lot of charity work, and his players plainly have a lot of respect for him.Anyone who could go into SC's locker room after what turned out to be his signature moral victory in 2005 is someone who can demonstrate praiseworthy behavior.

Why then so much disrespect for Weis in the press and the broader community? I suspect because he couldn't conceal his underlying belief that he was smarter than his coaching peers, and because he acted like a self-righteous ass towards people outside the program. It's no surprise then that he didn't get personal respect from people who might have had respect for him as a professional. All behavior counts, at some level. It might count more if you're not "fun," but that's life.

After five years of I-get-no-respect treatment (so far as Weis is concerned), Weis appears to have undertaken some kind of emotional catharsis by making a snide allegation about one peer who thwarted him every time. Weis also goes in the article about his friendship with Bill Belichik, a man not without accusations of infidelity in recent years. I assume that the search for Weis applying his strict moral standard in public to Belichik would be a fruitless one.

So this swipe at Carroll is understandable perhaps, but it's the action of a small man, and smacks of hypocrisy. If the relevant criteria for Weis to criticize infidelity are win / loss records and personal friendship, it doesn't really do a lot other than reinforce the negative opinions that other people had of you, no matter how much you claim they are false.

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UPDATE I (Paragon) 7:00am EST:

Here is a little more from CFT...(It would appear that some have some journalistic standards...)

Since he's in the market for a new job, maybe Charlie Weis should work here at CFT's "Latest News & Rumors."

He certainly has some juicy stuff on his mind.

Apparently too juicy, as censors seem to be hard at work.

On Saturday, the former Notre Dame head coach sat down with five reporters for his first interview since being fired on Nov. 30.

Tim Prister of IrishIllustrated.com was one of the writers on hand and reported more than others, including what appears to clearly be a vicious personal attack aimed at USC head coach Pete Carroll, whom Weis went winless against in five meetings.

Toward the end of meandering discussion about how Weis is perceived and who he feels he really is, a follow-up question brought up Carroll's name.

Weis seemingly cut off the question and had a few of his own when he said:

"Let me ask you this question: You guys know about things that go on in different places. Was I living with a grad student in Malibu, or was I living with my wife in my house? You could bet that if I were living with a grad student here in South Bend, it would be national news. He's doing it in Malibu and it's not national news. What's the difference? I don't understand. Why is it okay for one guy to do things like that, but for me, I'm scrutinized when I swear. I'm sorry for swearing; absolve my sins."

As of 2:55 a.m. ET, Prister's Weis Q&A, including the segment above is still posted at Rivals.com (pictured below).
However, the TMZ-esque talk is apparently too hot for IrishIllustrated.com. The quotes about Carroll are not currently included in what we assume was the original version of Prister's report.
We've got a feeling that this is far from over. Stay tuned.

So, Weis said it in front of five journalists and the only one who ran with it was Irish Illustrated? Figures..

Weis is horrible person for bring this up.

This is far from over...

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UPDATE II (Paragon) 8:20am EST:

Pete Carroll denies the allegation...

USC Coach Pete Carroll said statements about him that were attributed to former Notre Dame Coach Charlie Weis on an Internet site were “untrue” and “irresponsible.”

[...]

Carroll said in a telephone interview that he was apprised of the report by Tim Tessalone, USC’s sports information director.

“It’s untrue, it’s irresponsible and it’s incredible he’d be talking about me like that,” Carroll said of Weis.

Weis is such a clown!

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UPDATE III (Paragon) 1:40pm EST:

Weis claims the quotes were "taken out of context"...

Former Notre Dame Coach Charlie Weis said today that comments he made about USC Coach Pete Carroll in an interview published by an Internet website were taken “totally out of context.”

[...]

Early this morning, Weis contacted The Times and said he was having a “totally subjective” conversation with several reporters that was an aside to the formal interview. During that conversation, Weis said, he was speaking about Internet rumors and how they adversely affect the lives of coaches and their families.

“In no way was I trying to take a shot at Pete,” Weis said in a phone message. “What we were talking about was how the rumor mill can affect people’s lives. When I was asked a specific question like that, I responded like, 'This is the same crap that I’m talking about.' You start saying things like this and one thing, this guy does this and I do that and all of a sudden the Internet takes it all over the place.

"So, in no way was I trying to take a shot at Pete. I feel if I offended Pete, I will run Pete down and apologize. ... In no way do I have any idea what’s going on in anyone’s life other than the fact that rumors on the Internet can affect coaches' lives in a very, very negative fashion.”

Later, in a telephone interview, Weis said, “In no way would I be disrespectful to that guy,” and “All I know is that he kicked the crap out of me five times.”

Weis said he had left a message for Carroll.

Prister declined to comment.

Out of context or not Weis should know better...especially with a shill like Pritser. Right, the guy who writes for a Notre Dame skewed fan site is going to be objective over something like that.

Maybe he was trying to use or make up some sort of parallel but the last thing you should do is use your biggest rivals coach as that example. I am sure that ND fans were eating this up. Weis' family has always been treated fairly since he was at ND so I am very surprised that he would even go down this road...I mean why take the chance.

More will come out...just wait.

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