USC 28 - ucla 7 - The Rivalry is Definitely Back ON!
First, A big thanks to DC Trojan for running the thread tonight so I could relax and watch the game...Thanks Bud!
Lets get this out of the way first...I am not sure what Pete Carroll was trying to prove with that last TD pass to DWill. I mean, I get it...the game was in hand but Neuheisel decided to call a time out thus prolonging the game. Pete aired it out...I understand it but I don't agree with it. This was the same type of "gamesmanship" that went on between Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh last year in Palo Alto... And I would agree with the announcers that it does take the luster off a very good effort by both defenses.
Guess I am not getting it...
Lets just say I am amused (rubs chin) but not pleased. Though, I will say this...the rivalry is BACK ON in L.A.! and I would not have it any other way!!!
So let the bad blood flow!! It is on the players and coaches to back this one up. I sure hope Pete knows what he is doing... because this will be put on the locker room back at ucla TONIGHT!
Anyway...about the rest of the game.
What an absolutely ugly offensive game....by both teams. This game was so ugly on offense that I can't even gloat over the win in good conscience....I'll try though!
It was hard just what to make of it. There were some flashes from both offenses. There were some times that both teams could move the ball but for most of the night it was defensive battle.
I get it that there were times that Bates wanted to be conservative (until that last throw) but there were some plays that were just mind boggling. For most of the game neither team really moved the ball well. SC got an offensive TD because of a short field after a turnover in the 3rd quarter and that added to the pick-six by Malcom Smith in the first half.
Matt Barkley is still a freshman and man did it show tonight. Until that final drive that sealed the win Barkley just never got into a groove that showed he was comfortable and to me it does look like he has stalled a little bit. Again he had some flashes (that last throw) but there were some moments that made me scratch my head.
The defense played out of their minds tonight. They were getting pressure on the QB all night. They went after the ball and grabbed three turnovers...but there were a ton of penalties that either extended ucla drives or stalled USC drives...That is still very frustrating.
Props to Kevin Craft, he came into the game for the injured and ineffective Kevin Prince and gave ucla a spark. He sputtered on a few drives right after he came in but he finally drove them down to get them on the board with about 6 minutes left in the game.
SC went right down and scored the TD that seal the win...
The rest we all saw for ourselves.
Oh well...I don't blame ucla fans for being pissed, I would probably be pissed too.
So discuss it here. I am sure there will be a fair amount of scorn thrown our way.
FIGHT ON!
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is there a link to watch the post game press conference?
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
First off...
I never again want to hear a word about Harbaugh…that being said, this was either a great defensive game or a pathetic offensive game. I definitely agree with Paragon though, the rivalry is alive and well, and I cannot wait for next season at the Rose Bowl. Tip of the cap to trOJan fans, you got the better of us tonight, but tomorrow is another day. Enjoy your victory, you earned it.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 28, 2009 11:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Take the Harbaugh stuff else where
We had no problem with hangin’ half a hundred on SC…the 2-point conversion bothered me until we stopped it.= dead issue.
So move it along take that complaint to WeAreSC…I didn’t whine about Harbaugh at all.
I cannot answer for anyone else.
Fair enough...
But again, tip of the hat for the rest of the game. The better team won period.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 28, 2009 11:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
As am I...
Was sitting in section 33 tonight and hearing it from everywhere. It’ll be nice to take it in from home next year.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 28, 2009 11:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Cant speak for anyone else
but I dont care, and never cared about wat harbaugh did. When it comes to ucla, run up the score. If they didn’t want to play football, they shouldn’t have called timeout when we were in victory formation.
Bingo! We were moving down the stairs and were shocked when Weasel called a TO.
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by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 29, 2009 12:58 AM PST up reply actions
Heat of the moment...
I think the loss has me more irked than anything…btw can anyone tell me exactly what happened to Prince? I couldn’t check thanks to the lack of 3G at the Coliseum.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 29, 2009 1:07 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
be careful what you wish for...
With 50 some odd seconds left, 2nd down and 2 UCLA timeouts left, SC would have had to either run a play on 4th or punt the ball away. A punt return for a TD and on-side kick could have led to a tie game.
When Neuhisel called that time-out, he was still trying to win the game. I commend him for teaching his team to compete to the end. Carroll simply returned the favor and continued to play. It just so happened UCLA wasn’t ready for the play.
Pete wanted to end the game on kneel-downs. Neuhisel wanted to keep playing. If you’re gonna keep play, make sure you’re D continues to play or else you get burned. Plain and simple.
my 2 cents
i agree that RN was trying to take the moment to teach the team a lesson of some sort and to let the taste of defeat last longer so they"ll remember it. maybe PC called that play wit no intetions of scoring but it happened. oh well,. the better team won. the only thing that made me mad was the turnovers and that call where frankilin (i think) gets the ball on a broken play and runs for a huge gain and it was “whistled” dead or whatever.
other than that congrats SC, it was a good game and i liked seein both teams in their home jerseys
why are fucla fans mad about the last TD? They should be mad at slick Rick for calling a time out when USC was trying to run out the clock they where in victory formation and just wanted to get the game over with but slick Rick wanted to use his 3 time outs and make USC punt so that’s what he and fucla get. The monopoly is not over slick Rick
by Dodgermanramon on Nov 28, 2009 11:13 PM PST via mobile reply actions
The monopoly talk is lame.
Sc needs to get back to dominant football. Beating UCLA is expected. This game was awful.
by BackdoorBarkley on Nov 28, 2009 11:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
As am I..
Was sitting in section 33 tonight and hearing it from everywhere. It’ll be nice to take it in from home next year.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 28, 2009 11:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Boring game
I hate to say this but the SC mystique is all but gone. This game was awful. The Arizona game is a coin flip for me at this point. I was hoping for a big Trojan win but the stats are pretty even. Nice win but I’m not going to read too much into it.
by BackdoorBarkley on Nov 28, 2009 11:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Anyone got links to post-game comments?
Sucks that it was broadcast on Primeticket out here…anyone have a link to post game coverage?
i feel you on that
SC looked pretty pathetic. I couldn’t believe that Barkley pick in the 2nd . Tough to watch…only bright spot in my opinion was Bradford. Hopefully coaching staff wakes up and just hands him the ball.
dude, I bet Neuheezy is happy, because you know that dude bet the fucking over.
Honestly, I thank Pete Carroll for this dick move. Not only did it make that god awful boring game exciting at the end, but it reminded me why I hatted on USC so much in the first place. You guys have been so nice that it made me all lovey dovey. I needed this to remind me that Carroll is a dick, USC always beats Cal, USc fans are assholes (Sorry!) and that I shouldnt let my personal appreciation of this site get in the way of some good, oldfashion hate!
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by TwistNHook on Nov 28, 2009 11:25 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
That’s what we’ll do!
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by TwistNHook on Nov 28, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Im busy hating on USC from 9-12 on Monday, but I got some free time from 12-2 before I have to hate on USc from 2-5.
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by TwistNHook on Nov 28, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I will catch a plane out monday...you pick, I pay...but you pay the tip...
by Paragon SC on Nov 28, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
you owe me some beer
from…something. You’re just writing checks all over the CGB town
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by CBKWit on Nov 28, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice to hear
that a Cal fan is calling USC fans assholes, when Cal fans followed my 60 year old parents back to their car screaming the f word at them for 10 blocks. Here’s a newsflash. Dick cal fans by far outnumber dick fans from any other pac 10 school. Oregon probably comes in 2nd. The simple fact is that USC fans are too apathetic to talk smack in any sort of numbers to top cal fans.
i went to almost every stadium with the band and cal fans were BY FAR the rudest. wasn't even close... completely classless.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Wait, you were in the Trojan marching band?
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by TwistNHook on Nov 29, 2009 8:21 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh yeah?
Look at what you guys did to poor Tiger Woods… Evils I says, pure EVILS!!! (er, Elvis?)
Ahem… In one traumatizing minute Cal fans destroyed the poor little Furd’s delicate self esteem and drove him to the edge of MADNESS! He almost kilt hisself! THIS IS YOOR FAULT TWIST!!!!!! CONFESS AND REPENT NOW BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 29, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I admit it! I admit it! I was the one who swang the golf club! It wasn’t HOT BLONDE WIFE OF TIGER WOODS, it was me all along!
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by TwistNHook on Nov 29, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
SINGING LIKE A CANARY!
It was you that was DOIN’ THE HOT BLOND MILF wasn’t ya?! Did the glove fit? See whatcha done? Single handedly destroyed the PGA’s #1 cash cow! Just cuz ya hates The Furd. Such infamy!
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 29, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Twist is Cool...it is a running joke between CC and CGB
We have a lot of fun that way…I know they Hate SC but we formed a pretty tight relationship so we can poke fun at each other and it can get real Chippy!
We’re cool…
by Paragon SC on Nov 29, 2009 4:30 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
THATS IT! Lunch is off! Well, how about we just grab the two martinis instead?
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by TwistNHook on Nov 29, 2009 8:20 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
NO, NO, LET'S HAVE A POWER LUNCH
So I can cram a FIVE DOLLAR FOOT LONG down yer gullet! And if you puke it into a paper sack I’ll cram the whole mess down Weasel’s gullet.
Ha! That was good enough to be posted on BN!
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by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 29, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, you would waste a delicious 5 dollar foot long? For shame, Locoweed. For shame!
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by TwistNHook on Nov 29, 2009 9:56 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
NO NO NO
If you prefer, you would be free to digest it! Very nutritious and low in fat, etc. I’m a patient guy, and can wait 24 hours to cram the slightly processed mess down Weasel’s gullet. Would you be so kind as to deliver it to Morgan Center, UCLA, Westwood, CA. I’ll bring rubber gloves.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 29, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for making me laugh. Flagged for disturbing me.
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by TwistNHook on Nov 29, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Please don’t say that Twist is “cool.” We have enough trouble with him as it is, without him thinking that he is cool.
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
by CalBear81 on Nov 29, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What is odd to me is that it doesn’t sound as if it is nice to hear a cal fan calling USC fans assholes. I mean you say it in your post, but then you continue on to detail reasons why you believe Cal fans are the true assholes.
So, if you could provide some clarification here as to whether or not you felt it was nice to hear a Cal fan calling USC fans assholes, I think we would all appreciate it.
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by TwistNHook on Nov 29, 2009 8:21 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Aye! What the? Oh, youuuuu . . . . . . . . .
. . . . a nut-huggin’, back-slider! Slander-izing our name? Oh, yeah! Now I remember. . . . .
Hey Dumster-lover! FUCK YOUUUU! And. . .all that jazz, you know what I mean? Don’t start goin’ ‘round feelin’ “California”, when you know you’re just a hair better than Minnesota. I AM GLAD that the determined CalBears football team shut the fuck up outta of all that Stanford-crap. And come to think of it Twist? Most of us here at CC find those over at CGB quite hilarious, and at most ANY OTHER time- this might not be an issue between our fans and our teams.
Yes, okay! “Do Carroll coached teams lose focus in closing certain deals?” Yep, you betcha.
“Can the USC football team regain their lost momentum after absorbing almost 3 and 1/2 years of continuous hard luck, turnover, “alleged” player misconduct, alleged coaching misconduct, and injury?" . . . Yeah, BUT THEY SURE AS HELL AIN’T GONNA help themselves by bustin’ out in an impromptu Trojan Pow-Wow! Dude. Really? “Does it matter?” Of course it “matters”. "What if you’re the “home” team, a home team can get all cocky and out of hand wherever and whenever they want- especially IF THEY losing! Riiiiight? Or no?"
Pssssst! Hey Twist! Listen, okay we’re sorry. Kids sometimes get a little rowdy, you know? And sometimes, on a certain field, on hallowed-grounds no less, victory is snatched by the gaze of jaundiced eyes. And that’s. . . .well, that’s just a shame. And it’s DIRTY POOL! (B-League! but still, dirty pool is dirty pool. scratch!)
So we danced? C’mon Twist! You know, that I know- that YOU GOT SOME SERIOUS BOOGIE TO YOUR BUMP. So say hypothetically some random situation occured whereby people are “hatin” on you, VOCIFEROUSLY TOO, no less! And then some judge says to you, “If you didn’t boogie so much, Boy? Truth is, you dance too much enough already as it is AND when people ask you politely to please stop? You go on about by yourself & pretending you didn’t hear a thing”. And from that day forward YOU ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO spontaneously bust out some grooves and get down wit’ yor bad self? How would it feel to be forbidden for being “All-Trent-Reznor-With-It” (you know? being so deep down in i! ??. . that you’re totally up above it, I was!) Well. . . . . .THAT’S KINDA HOW it felt to unwisely celebrate and congregate. Sorta like-a!
Anyways. . . . . . .? Twist! You daft cunt, don’t make me chitter-chatter! I hate not being your undercover-lover no more! When did you start thinking I was unattractive again? And here I thought you liked to LIKE to look at my “asshole”, ya bung-hole! Oye! Pinche’ mentirosa! (si, “sa”) Now, don’t cha go cryin’ all over creation ‘bout how pretty you are and how ugly everyone else is. Seriously, crying & vanity are such unattractive qualities. Besides, I might just have to nickname you: “The Quivering Rosebud” (will he melt to pieces and “freeze-frame”? same as, “Go mute”. . . . or is he just ridiculously nervous to the point of acute onset terminal laughter?" – If it’s all the same, Re-run . . ., er. . .I mean- Twist, I like it better when you’re laughing. It’s that “crinkle” in your “wrinkles” or whatever?
Well! Smooches to you and ALL the heebie-jeebies at the rock-steady CGB. (so- we’re assholes, eh? there’s a lot to love about us too though Twist and, when you get a chance? Ask Marshawn if he’s available for teaching some gun-safety classes this summer, mkay? Oh, while I’m at it- can you think of anyone willing to help instruct a “burglar-proof your home” class ? I know you are buddies wit ‘da badasses and what not. hey Twist? There aren’t any assholes in Berkeley, are there? Riiiiiiiiight! Forgot? (because the unicorns kill so many of them or . . . . .procreate with them for money, but are clearly under no obligation to help raise the bastards) .
Crazy game. I got to start drankin’! (I’m not kidding! I stopped about an hour and a half ago. haven’t been the same since! i’m almost pissed about this, can you believe it? BELIEVE IT, baby. Don’t stop.
Believing.
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Nov 29, 2009 2:44 AM PST up reply actions 7 recs
like said...
Twist and his crew are some of the good ones…yes they can be rabid Cal fans but they have been good to us on CGB so we allow a little smack talk back and forth.
Yeah, I hope Twist doesn't take me seriously
At all. (you know you’re my favorite Nobel laurate in wait, Twist- right? and as far as the whole “daft cunt” thing. don’t mean anything by it! just like saying it, is all!)
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Nov 29, 2009 5:03 AM PST up reply actions
Can be? I damn well pride myself on being a rabid Cal fan.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
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This might have been the greatest post in the history of SBN. We should frame this. And to think I had a hand in making this baby?
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They should simaltaneously make Bix a mod and ban him at the same time.
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B'gosh! B'gall! B'gum!
(thank you! oh dear sweet. . . .? . . . maker of sweet things, thank you for making sure TwistNHook stays being the twistin’-est, most hookin’est M-FER in the Milky Way! . . . . .pssss! there’s this no-legged poly-nucleotide that has 1,256 fingers living in the Andromeda who’s purdy twistin’ and hookin’ I’m told??)
For what it’s worth T&H (damn son? i already thought up “tits & hoochies”, “tits & huggage”, so. . . .it sure looks like a titty name and theme from here on out! Nice accessorization! Serendipitous “T” killin’ it again.)- “asshole” isn’t TERRIBLY bad I guess. Still, I’m waiting to meet a “spoiled” Trojan. I’m not one, and I don’t know too many of ’em.
One time, at a conference in Fresno (dude! it’s the raisin capital of the WORLD!!! And Visalia! yeah- Visalia is just down the road a piece. Real real close to it) some student from CalTech called me, “irrelevant”.
You pretty much CANNOT misconstrue what he meant! And it hurt. . . . .hurt real bad. I mean- ugly? Okay, you might have a point? Mean? No. Way. Not me. Arrogant? What the? Just because I told you, “Twist, you know- sometimes I really really wish I could be you? So that I’d know how cool it was to be my friend.” – when I said that. . . . . .I meant. . . . . .oh alright! So WE’RE ARROGANT! It’s not like we’re serial killers or something. OK! Fine. Asshole? Well now you see, this is the part that’s not working for me. Asshole? Asshole!
You see Twist, I fear asshole might be neck and neck with “irrelevant” and so. . . . .
This just leaves me so very unsettled. I’m not feeling good with ABSOLUTELY ANY OF THIS! OMIGAWD! Irrelevant asshole is now on the brain and I don’t know anybody here in Los Gatos that has any loose pharmaceutical change???? Valium can be my ally on this fine Sunday.
Otherwise. . . .I’m good Twist. Has Danzig posted his dissertation on the amount of kilo-calories necessary for breaking down the most highly contagious strain of the BCS influenza? I think he’s almost done, but he’ll prolly get shot by those in the study group who he must interview for the umpteenth time. (what’s he after? really? tell ya, that’s a pimp styling way to snag the digits from ladies!) Danzig is cool hand sly dog. I wanna go to Vegas with him one day. He’ll make us a ton of money. I got some notions.
Happy belated warm Thursday in the Fall. Merry freakin happy times this winter, to you and all Beastly Boys over at CGB. Love ya Twist! Always have, always will try to convince myself it’s true too!
Talisker 24 year old. He did it. Like a freakin’ hurricane! (it’s the only excuse I got Twist. and I drank lots lots more too, but. . . . .Talisker. My wing man. He’s a poison, and. . . . .a remedy)
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by BixBeiderbecke on Nov 29, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Holy Crap Bix
What was you drankin’??? I want me some of that.
EPIC POST!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 29, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
That last TD was pretty much a dick move. If it had been against someone other than UCLA (or perhaps Notre Dame), I’d be really upset. As it is, it’s just another entry in the rivalry karma balance sheet. This is going to come back to bite some USC team in the ass, at some game in the future.
Throwing the TD, well the Weasel still wanted to play so we played.
Even James Washington said there was time on the clock and USC came out in victory formation and took a knee. Bruins called TO we come out passing formation so bruins need to cover, they didn’t USC scored.
but don’t go over at BN and say what I said or this will happen
Any “Bruin” who defends Petey in this thread
Will be gone. End of story.
The truth is Lavin was an Okay coach but I liked him because Bibby was beating him. I have known Ben since 1978 and when he got to Ugla I knew it was going to be a battle in BB. But know we got Kevin and I think he is better than my friend, and after 3 years we will know. GO Trojans
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 28, 2009 11:57 PM PST reply actions
Closest 3 possession game I have ever seen
As upset I am about losing, I’m very happy our team played with as much heart as they did, and especially with the D playing lights out until that last drive (the last meaningful drive of course). They just spent a bit too much time on the field than they could handle. Our offense made far too many mistakes, and your defense capitalized enough on them to make the difference, hats off to them.
I really hope people don’t make a big deal out of the last TD pass (though I know they will)…we were still playing to get back in the game, and you guys were still playing to seal the deal. I don’t think it was as surprising of a move as people are making it out to be.
As ugly as a game it was, it still proved to have a ton of exciting moments, and I’m looking forward to next year’s game at the Rose Bowl already!
Quote of this young day!!
I really hope people don’t make a big deal out of the last TD pass (though I know they will)…we were still playing to get back in the game, and you guys were still playing to seal the deal. I don’t think it was as surprising of a move as people are making it out to be.
Don’t say that over on BN though…
Sorry dude, people are gonna make a big deal out of that last TD pass. One of my SC buddies was watching the game with me and thought it was a dick move since it was virtually impossible for UCLA to win at that point . That said, stranger things have happened so oh wells. UCLA’s defense couldn’t stop it.
It will be interesting to see how all the “Stay Classy Stanford” people handle this one.
Virtually impossible?
55 secs left… 2 scores… 3 TO’s.. so if it was virtually impossible, Ricky should have let the clock roll, right?
Speaking of virtually impossible… Watch Montana – South Dakota State in FCS playoffs… 28 point lead with 5 mins (?) left in 3rd… Shit happens
Harvard Yale 1969 comes to mind
Harvard comes back in last minute down 16 to tie the game at 29.
Stop yer whinin' Pablo
With that TO Slick said he still wanted to play so we played. Our offense set up in a spread formation but your defense didn’t understand what Slick was up to and was caught sleeping.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 29, 2009 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
So a few questions over here
My family and I were battling the cold and winds up in S10 R83. Now I missed the PA play since my brother wanted to take a pic of me with the field behind me. Honestly, I thought the game was over since the seconds were running out. Here are my questions:
1. Were the Trojans in victory formation to basically kneel?
2. Was the time out intentional to keep the game going? If so, why didn’t SC try another kneel?
3. Was the play action bomb a “message” to CRN?
4. Why wasn’t SC tagged with excessive celebration? I mean, I was there at the Rose Bowl when did they did the whole jumping/taunting last year. What was so different this year that the Bruins wanted to actually fight?
5. Who was the Bruin player that tossed the ref to the ground and why wasn’t UCLA penalized for that?
Indeed this game was terrible, but I suppose a win’s a win at this point. The timeouts were not great at all. I agree that it wasn’t the classiest of moves, but it does take 2 to tango.
forgot one more
I noticed CRN trudge off after the game, anything particular happened when the coaches shook hands? Or not really?
We were there too
and as we walked down to T23, Barkley took a knee and Skippy called a timeout. We all thought WTF is he doing, lets get the hell out of here but then we realized he was still playing… Danger Will Robinson!!!! If Weasel gets the ball back and scores you know he’s going for an onside kick, setting up a possible tie. Much stranger things have happened.
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by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 29, 2009 12:57 AM PST up reply actions
1. Yes they where in victory formation
2. Yes if they take a knee fucla would call another time out they had 3 left
3. It was like ok I’m trying to run out the clock and you call a time out then let’s continue to be aggresive
4. fucla was just upset and wanted to fight
5. ?
by Dodgermanramon on Nov 29, 2009 1:01 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
answers
- Yes
- I suppose 8 years of losing to the bruins in the 90s means that they are not eligible for end of game mercy.
- Yes (perhaps it was a message to stop printing those monopoly ads.)
- Celebration on the sidelines is not illegal. If there was a penalty to be called, it probably should have been called on ucla for crossing midfield. The jumping is a ritual that the team does in practice.
- The bruin player was Carter. He did not toss the ref to the ground. The ref tried to grab him to restrain him, and he twisted. The ref lost his balance and slipped to the ground. If it was OJ Mayo, I’m sure that some sort of foul would have been called.
"If it was OJ Mayo, . . . ."
Damn that was excellent!
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by BixBeiderbecke on Nov 29, 2009 3:05 AM PST up reply actions
fixed
If it was OJ Mayo, I’m sure thatsome sort of foul would have been called.
If it was OJ Mayo, I’m sure that Timmy Floyd would have protected OJ and then handed him a bag of cash.
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Quote of the night from Bill Plaschke...
“On this night, the brat who called a timeout needed to be put in one.”
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
here is the link to the story...
http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-plaschke29-2009nov29,0,2051388,full.column
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Loco, you are so right, stranger things have happened and will happen, if you’re going to call a time out, you better call a defense. They were bunched up playing the run, so they went for the jugular. This is Division 1 Football!!!!!!! Beat the Wildcats.
All's Fair...
This may be my first comment this season. I watched the early games and was pleasantly surprised. After the game against the Domers I was disappointed with the teams poor play. I thought the 2 point try by Stanford was low rent. The touchdown tonight with :50 left, hmmm, I’m not sure what to think. I’m afraid it may be perceived as petty, but I also believe Weasel mad his bed when he called the TO. O’ well, F the bRuins, it’s not like we give a shit about what they think. FIGHGT ON!
Explaination of the last touchdown for those dumbasses that have their heads too far up their asses to understand
USC was taking a knee at the end of the quarter with less than a minute to go in the game obviously to let the game end but that pussycake slick rick called a time out hoping to force USC to punt the ball back to fucla so that that sack of shit craft could try to score another TD. USC wasn’t going to let the bRUINS have the ball back again with out putting up a fight
bRUINS: you don’t accept defeat and want to keep playing to win,so be it, you get what you asked for. Barkley immediately threw a TD pass to Damian on the next play.
Those of you who stayed for the whole game saw this( i’m not sure if it was broadcast on TV or not) but the whiney thugs from westwood then started prancing towards USC’s sideline trying to start some kind of street fight and started talking shit, the refs caught on to this and flagged fucla for an unsportsmanlike penalty and I believe a second unsportsmanlike penalty was called on the XP attempt as well. This was when the entire stadium chanted “U-S-C” and “We Are SC”. This obviously peeved the bRuins because they knew that there was nothing they could do about this and they would have to revel at the feet of the Trojans for another year.
But hey bRuins at least you have basketball right, LAWL!!!
Oh wow...
Is Bill Plashcke serious?
by DannyJay01 on Nov 29, 2009 3:49 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Why do you say that?
I think Plashcke nailed it, myself. Excellent article. It’s been sad a million times already, but USC was attempting to run the clock out — this can’t be disputed. Neuheisel calls time out in an attempt to keep the game going — this can’t be disputed. SC says “ok” and scores on the bomb … so whose “fault” is this, anyway?
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
I said it a little earlier...
Carrol could have easily called a play to get them a first down which would have completely sealed the deal. Instead they opted for a play-action pass to draw the defense in and then go over the top. I personally disagree and think it’s a classless move.
As far as Plaschke goes, he called out Harbaugh for going for two when Stanford had the game in hand, but he changes his mind about as quickly as he ends a paragraph so that’s nothing new.
I think Simers pretty much had the best assessment. I really don’t see why everyone hates him so much. For the most part a lot of what he says is true.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 29, 2009 1:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Harbaugh went for 2 when it meant the difference between 28 and 29. There was zero tactical advantage in this. The only possible advantage was having a total of 50 points as opposed to 49.
In this case, UCLA clearly indicated that the game was not completely over, and they were hanging on to a tiny sliver of hope. USC equally responded with the play that gave them the best chance to nullifying that final hope.
If they had knelt again or run into the line, they would have been doing exactly what UCLA was hoping and what everyone in the stadium was expecting. If they did a short pass for a first down, they still had a possibility of a stupid decision by Barkley for a pick 6. The play action was a simple play with low risk that was completely unexpected. Rick clearly showed that UCLA was still playing, so why blame Pete for responding in kind and continuing to play?
I disagree with Plaschke in that I don’t blame Rick on bit for calling timeout. Whether he thought he actually had a chance in that game, he’s setting a tone for his program that you fight hard until the final second and take advantage of every possible chance that you have.
Honestly, this all seems to be a big deal over nothing. Both teams fought hard until the final second, and both coaches made decisions that they thought would give their team the best chance of winning. What the hell is so wrong with that?
Here's a little bit of an arguement for you
Pete didn’t call any timeouts at the end of the Stanford game, and USC was driving the ball. He let the clock run out.
You insinuation that Pete should have called a different play to only get a 1st down, and not score doesn’t hold much water. Pete didn’t need to get a 1st down to win. Neuheisel didn’t need to call a timeout either. Why aren’t you angry with Neuheisel not conceding almost certain defeat. You can’t only be mad at Pete Carroll. He was fine with running out the clock. You have to give some of the blame to your own coach for wanting to still play football.
I would have to say if I was RNs boss I would be pretty disappointed as to how he handle the game in the last 50 sec.
So he really felt that if they got the ball back with say 45 sec. that they could pull it out, R I G H T. Rick has now put his job and team in jeopardy (Alex I will take FB programs in Ruin for 2,000) who has killed 2 college FB programs and is about to Rape another. Dude his boss should be asking him monday WHY, game was over and he almost cause a riot.
SAME OLD RICK AND WILL NEVER CHANGE.
The truth is Lavin was an Okay coach but I liked him because Bibby was beating him. I have known Ben since 1978 and when he got to Ugla I knew it was going to be a battle in BB. But know we got Kevin and I think he is better than my friend, and after 3 years we will know. GO Trojans
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 29, 2009 6:52 AM PST reply actions
Sorry Paragon, but you are not right
Message to Slick Rick (and Mushroom & Co): You reap what you saw.
First of all, Mr “”http://blog.oregonlive.com/pac10/2009/10/pac-10_football_rick_neuheisel.html" target="new">Scoreboard Baby" is not an epitomy of class.
Lets do the math. 50 something secs left, SC kneels, bRuins call the TO. So what the hell is SC supposed to do? Run 2 plays that take may be 7-8 secs off the clock given 2 more TO’s in Ricky’s pocket and punt? Pete offered a sportsmanlike ending to the game by kneeling. Ricky refused. Given how shitty our special teams were, it would take a statistical and football miracle to pull it off. But don’t you think that if the final score was 21-14, Ricky would go on to say how close the game was and that they almost won and other non-sense about “monopoly schmonopoly”? I clearly saw Pete talking to Bates and pointing to the scoreboard and I speculate that they were discussing what the hell is going on and Bates seemed like poiting out that SC can’t run out the clock by kneeling.
Now, since Ricky wanted to play, Pete played. It’s fucla’s job to cover the receiver. First down would win it, but the bRuins were covering it near the 1st down marker.
Lets move forward…. How come no one is talking about the clown players jumping on top of our LS on the PAT and blatant agression that drew flags? How come no one is talking about Verner (?) tangling with the ref and sending him flying to the ground? Mushroom & Co were all over OJ Mayo fake ref diving incident, yet Verner’s behavior goes unnoticed?
F*ckface Ricky got what he deserved and payback is a b*tch. Should have never called a TO and let the game end.
That's cool, no disagreement with most of what you say...
I would have preferred another way to still “Compete” without launching a bomb down the field…why throw out a years worth of bulletin board material?
In the end it really doesn’t matter what I or anyone else thinks…PC and RN know the drill…the game is for 60 minutes. Looks like RN wanted to play all 60 of them…that’s fine but you see the result when you don’t prepare your team to play.
I don’t disagree that you reap what you sew but it cuts both ways. I am not as upset about as you think I just would have preferred a different outcome…
There are other ways to end it...
Rather than throwing a 50 yard bomb. One first down negates the need to call any more TOs for RN. Plain and simple, it was a classless call. I definitely agree with Paragon that there’s no need to provide a years worth of bulletin board material when you already have the game in hand.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 29, 2009 10:04 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
They were covering the 1st down
Slick said he wanted to play, so they played. As an offense you take what the defense will give you. You’re suggesting that Bates should call plays that take the Bruins psychological well-being into consideration?
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 29, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
No...
What I’m suggesting is that if you want to claim you’re not piling it on, then you don’t call a play that is designed to draw the defense up to set up a bomb over the top. It’s that simple.
We’ll have to agree to disagree then. IMHO if you want to keep playing the game you have to play defense.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 29, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah..
I don’t think either of us is going to budge. Either way, hard fought albeit sloppy game. The better team won, so you won’t hear me complaining about that. We’ll see you at RB with a year more of experience, and another pretty strong recruiting class next year.
Danny we also will be better next year and a great recruiting class that maybe 3-4 players will play.
Also I believe that Chow is gone
The truth is Lavin was an Okay coach but I liked him because Bibby was beating him. I have known Ben since 1978 and when he got to Ugla I knew it was going to be a battle in BB. But know we got Kevin and I think he is better than my friend, and after 3 years we will know. GO Trojans
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 29, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
No...
Chow has one more year left on his contract. Personally I don’t think he comes back once his contract expires. One, because the Titans won’t be on the hook for any more of his deal with them, and I highly doubt UCLA is going to open up the checkbook to give him a raise.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 29, 2009 12:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Danny, I think you miss the point
I haven’t seen you criticize Neuheisel one time for his time out call. If you’re going to criticize the touchdown pass, then you have to call out UCLA for calling the TO. What I think you fail to realize is this … calling time out at that point is equivalent to a giant FU! to USC and Coach Carroll. Everyone knows the unwritten rule … “we’ll take the knee, you let the clock roll.”
One person to blame for that entire incident, and he’s the head coach at UCLA.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
Vacafan...
I do disagree with RN calling the TO. I really don’t know what he was trying to accomplish by getting the ball back with about 40 seconds left down 2 TDs.
That being said, I still don’t think that justifies bombing one 50 yards downfield with the game in hand. You can just as easily move the chains, and end it.
That’s why I said before I agree with TJ Simers’ point of view. Both coaches acted immaturely, and put the focus from a hard fought game and put it on themselves.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 29, 2009 1:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Correction..
TOOK the focus drone a hard fought game*
by DannyJay01 on Nov 29, 2009 1:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Fair enough.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
Chow's titan money is up
He can leave if he wants to. Rumor has it he might want to return to a former job he once had a few years ago. One thing is for sure, from what I know about Norm, the chances that he returns to ucla and works for Neuheisel again next season are extremely slim.
Do you think NC wanted to call that TO, face it they don't get along.
The truth is Lavin was an Okay coach but I liked him because Bibby was beating him. I have known Ben since 1978 and when he got to Ugla I knew it was going to be a battle in BB. But know we got Kevin and I think he is better than my friend, and after 3 years we will know. GO Trojans
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 29, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Actually so.cal.
Go figure but they do get along. That said, Weasel is the de facto offensive coordinator, so Norm is not running the asylum. It’s going to be about the contract, all business.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 29, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
3 1/2 qtrs of shit
forget the last freakn minute. until that last drive our offense was shit. a couple of fullback runs and passes to the tight end on roll outs, WOW way to open up.
2 weeks to game plan and still no coherent play calling. offense still has no rhythm and sometimes no pulse. 2 offensive penalties on one play.
they were jumping on the bubble screens and we never run the counter play to that- pump fake and go deep.
draw plays on 2 and 35 and 3rd and 30 ? you talk up the QB to the detriment of 2 players who have been with the program for 3 seasons now and then you show that you don’t trust that QB to throw in obvious passing situations?
what happened to double move patterns by our receivers? going deep 3 or 4 times
a game, even if it doesn’t work you still show that threat.
we don’t need norm chow, bill walsh or joe montana in order to run the west coast offense, nor do you need sark or kiffen to run plays from years past that have worked.
Is it true that Rick is still standing on sideline this morning wanting to know were his team is and still thinks the game is still on.
Maybe he feels he will roll doubles and get past Boardwalk and pass go, but he doesn’t realize that Baltic ave. is the bottom of the barrel.
The truth is Lavin was an Okay coach but I liked him because Bibby was beating him. I have known Ben since 1978 and when he got to Ugla I knew it was going to be a battle in BB. But know we got Kevin and I think he is better than my friend, and after 3 years we will know. GO Trojans
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 29, 2009 10:20 AM PST reply actions
I waited...
For about 4 hours after the opening kickoff for UCLA to get off of the bus.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 29, 2009 12:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Just caught a clip on Sports Center
before i get into that, I want to note Plaschke’s article:
Said Carroll: “We’ve been saying it for years, living it for years . . . just compete.”
Said Neuheisel: “I don’t forget very much.”
SportsCenter analysts all agreed that it was just what Pete did. You had 4 quarters to compete and win, and you didn’t bring it. Save some grace, accept the kneel so we can all go home.
Slick Rick was like, “No, FU.” and took that TO to keep fighting. No one reasonbly thinks that USC was going to mess up and they will return it for a TD under a minute (although stranger things have happened). Pete responded to that TO with a remarkable, but now questionable, play. I suppose you can chalk it up to rivalries and egos. The latter of which Rick will make it his point to fuel his hatred for years to come – something of which Dorrell didn’t do and Rick doesn’t want to become.
As far as the team jumping and taunting goes, was that excessive celebration? Were any SC players crossing the sidelines? I can’t recall and the video doesn’t show much.
Whatever Ucla is not the authority on sideline behavior so how are they going to stop it.
It’s a free country so heck with them, there no rules in a rivalry game none what so ever. I know this when we played our rival in HS we tried to score all the time, and that was with 3-4 string players in the game even the QB was a LB.
28---7 2nd & 11 Barkley to Williams, so please Bru-Babes call time out again.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 29, 2009 9:03 PM PST reply actions

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