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Interesting take here and it might give us some insight as to how the Duckies were able to exploit SC's defense on Saturday...

Gruden and Kelly have a blossoming relationship.

 

Two weeks after being fired as head coach of the Bucs, Gruden was voicing his desire to learn the spread offense, in particular Chip Kelly’s spread at Oregon.

 

Kelly traveled to Tampa this February "to visit him (Gruden) and talk football."

 

If Gruden really wants to learn the spread, why not just immerse himself?

 

In a Feb. 8 article in the Orlando Sentinel, Gruden was asked if his new desire would make people think he wants to coach college football.

 

Gruden’s response was straight to the point:

"No. It means I want to learn more football," he said. "I’m going to pick out two or three cool colleges that I think have great offenses. Great places. I want to go to Oregon. I want my son to go to Oregon football camp, and I want to learn what the Oregon Ducks are doing on offense . . . I want to go in there and try to be a guest coach."

 

Days after Kelly was named head coach of the Ducks, he contacted Gruden again. Instead of being a "guest coach," Kelly offered Gruden the job of offensive coordinator.

 

Unfortunately for Kelly and Oregon, it appears Gruden decided to stand by what he told the Sentinel. He wants to learn the spread for future use in the National Football League.

Think Gruden gave Kelly tips on how to defend the Tampa 2 defense used by Pete Carroll?

You know the same one used by former Tampa Bay DC Monte Kiffin?

I have some other thoughts but I will hold off for now...

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he probably did but I don’t think that had anything to do with us not winning in Oregon. The D just wasn’t tackling good and they missed to many assignments

by Dodgermanramon on Nov 2, 2009 5:33 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Tonight on MNF

Gruden said that he spent three days with Sean Payton and Drew Brees in Nawleans and called them both “offensive geniuses.” I think Gruden is just a football junkie and does this sort of thing EVERY offseason. Just a coincidence that the Ducks were his stop this year.

by DFWTrojan on Nov 2, 2009 8:50 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry, more than just a "coincidence"

if Kelly offered Gruden the OC job. Really, I don’t believe that for a second. Kelly may have broached the subject, but that offer would be insulting to Gruden. Maybe they were joking around about it. Gruden is a $4-5 million/yr a guy, not a $400-500k/yr guy. Maybe Phil Knight was going to put him on the Nike payroll.

by DFWTrojan on Nov 2, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t pay a lot of attention to the NFL: was Gruden fired or did he walk? If he was fired and pocketing a multi-year severance, I can see where he could be hired for a nominal fee on top of the the severance package in the same fashion as Norm Chow.

Still, it’s probably more likely that he’s looking at the spread offense for use in the pro ranks. For all that “real NFL” types seem to heap scorn on it, I don’t see why the idea of creating mismatches on offense by having the QB run wouldn’t be attractive. I watched the Jets – Dolphins game to see how Sanchez was doing, and if the commentators were right about the Jets being a good defensive team generally, they were having fits trying to cope with various wild dolphin and similar formations.

It might be a short term advantage, but that would be no reason to avoid learning how to use it.

by DC Trojan on Nov 2, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

wild dolphin

Is that what they’re calling it now? If not, I really hope so.

Go Bruins!

by Harsha on Nov 3, 2009 7:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Somehow that’s so blantant, it’s not funny. Wild Dolphin is at least slightly subtle.

Go Bruins!

by Harsha on Nov 3, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Rabid Beaver?

Now that’s not exactly subtle, but . . . . it has a certain “funny” to it. My subjective opinion however. (psst frak: dude. . . .you had me crackin’ up this morning with that one. anything with “beaver” actually does. i’m infantile like ’dat!)

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Nov 3, 2009 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Eager Beaver?

Very traditional!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 3, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Shaved Beaver

Much more provocative

On ATQ I'm known as JSoCal Oski

It's spelled J-etc

by SoCal Oski on Nov 3, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Spread Option of Oregon

is not used in the NFL, but various spread and west coast hybrids exist in the NFL. From what I have read, these hybrid spreads use different terminology than Bill Walsh’s west coast offense. The Patriots, Steelers, Chiefs, Chargers and Broncos all use hybrid spread offensive schemes evidenced by prolific use of the shotgun formation and pass first mentality.

by DFWTrojan on Nov 3, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I really think Chip Kelley was asked in his interview can you beat USC and get us a Pac-10 championship.

So yah I believe he got info about Tampa dee, but still we lost it happens so lets move on and PC needs to make some personal changes.

Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.

by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 6, 2009 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

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