Carroll-Harbaugh Handshake
by uscdude on Nov 15, 2009 1:16 AM PST
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Preface: yeah yeah I know it doesn't matter that Stanford went for 2 when they ended up putting 55 on us blah blah blah. I understand football. So preemptively, shut up. This is for we Trojans looking for some insight into Pac 10 coaching psychology or who just think it's fun to see pissed off and very tense Pete and cocky high school prom king Harbaugh jab at each other. Here's an accurate translation of the audible portion of the Carroll-Harbaugh exchange, thanks to RaiderFerny @ WeAreSC:
JH: Good luck.
PC: What's the deal with you, are you alright?
JH: Yeah, I'm great. What's your deal?
PC: Nice game, nice game.
PC's "Nice game" was obviously dripping with sarcasm. Look right in his eyes as he says it. Harbaugh better bolt for ND or NFL soon, because the next time we play them with our shyt together, there will be no putting in the second and third string if we're up by 40. As of today, PC officially hates Jim Harbaugh. He will show no future mercy to any Harbaugh-coached team. Watch the clip if ya don't believe me. Our BN brethren has it posted. Paragon, can you post the vid? I don't want to tag BN with my browser hits. :)
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Meh...
Both these guys are ego centric…
PC is a Bay Area laid back guy while Harbaugh is a typical blue collar lunch pail guy.
Harbaugh may be a dick but at least he is in your face and won’t back down…he doesn’t care. I’ll take that over Slick Rick any day of the week. PC’s laid back style looks to be wearing thin…
by Paragon SC on Nov 15, 2009 6:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
One other thing...
I wasn’t completely pleased with the 2pt conversion but I get it. We stopped it so the whole argument over that to me is moot.
by Paragon SC on Nov 15, 2009 6:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Call me biased but...
I’ve always lived by the creed “If you can’t take it, don’t dish it out.” How many times has PC run up the score on the opposition when the game was in hand? I can remember as early as ’05 when they were spanking UCLA and still calling for deep passes, and going for the kill.
Is it classless? Absolutely! But again, when you’ve been doing it for close to 7 years, you better be able to handle it when karma comes calling. (See: "Spurrier, Steve)
by DannyJay01 on Nov 15, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever Ruin
Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 15, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of people at USC
can’t forget about the trash talk and the crap that the bruins dished out during their 8 game streak. Running up the score on the bruins is a direct result of taking that crap for 8 years.
by frak on Nov 15, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
UCLA is a special circumstances case and eligible for "special treatment"
Yeah, we all remember the 90’s, and those of us that were there will always remember their jerk-off behavior after 13-9.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 15, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I personally got hit in the head by a full can of beer
at 13 – 9, while sitting in my seat watching the game. It doesn’t count against your rival.
by ilium55 on Nov 17, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who threw it
a bruin or a Trojan.
I got hit with a bottle of beer by a bruin once.
by frak on Nov 17, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Angry ruin mob!
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 17, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It seemed to come arching in from a UCLA section
who goes through all the trouble to sneak in a beer, just to chuck it at me?
by ilium55 on Nov 17, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I will bet it was Nestor or Tytities, then again it could have been brew 102
Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 17, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nestor is too chicken shit, I think it was MexiBuin and his vatos.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 17, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really think Mexi would throw away a beer
Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 17, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, no!
Old Mexican custom, drink the beer then pee in the bottle!
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 17, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yah I think my friend Domingo told me that one, thats why I know it would be Sacrilegious
But then again he is a Bruin and just maybe a Metro-Sexual, who knows what happen to him hanging out with all those squirrels at UGLA.
Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 18, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You can tell
it’s already messed with his mind. Who ever heard of a whiny Mexican?
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 18, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How many times has PC run up the score on the opposition when the game was in hand?
I can only think of one that might qualify. How many can you come up with? If you had a clue as to what you speak, then you would know that PC has a well-established pattern of sitting on the ball and running out the clock with the game is in hand. This has even been to the chagrin of the fans, as SC needed late season BCS style points in many of those situations.
Buy a clue before you pop-off, baby blue.
by DFWTrojan on Nov 15, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I do agree with you DC
Most of the time, all Carroll does is run it up the middle when the game is in hand. He puts the reserves in, and runs the ball. Usually he runs it on 4th and long. There are not many examples of Pete intentionally running it up.
About the only thing that someone could say is that Pete left his starting QB in too long on a few of those blow out wins.
I still don’t think there are any holds barred against ucla.
by frak on Nov 15, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Way to get my back dudes, Ruin doesn't understand that this is all about the going for 2
But I am sorry I shouldn’t expect a Westwood warrior know what we are talking about, I mean the streets are lined with wooden gold their.
Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 15, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The only time I felt PC ran up the score was when he called a fake punt during a blowout over one of Willingham's ND teams in the Coli.
by TsoBro on Nov 15, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Whether it's a rivalry game or not...
Running it up is running it up. I’d say the same thing about any coach for any team.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 16, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a question for you
So when USC puts in all the reserves, are we supposed to tell them to not score? I think by in large the vast majority of the blowout wins that USC had were handled in a classy way. There are elements that can cause USC to pile on the points. Trash talk in the press is one of the reasons. A long history of animosity is another. If you take a look at the 4th quarters in a lot of the blowout wins you’ll probably see a majority of those wins had most of the points scored in the first 3 quarters.
by frak on Nov 16, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how many times I have watch a game where PC put in reserves and scoring pretty much stop.
But you all got to understand that teams like Stanford are all the same quality, gee I wonder how bad Cal will beat them?
Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 16, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah... once again
Don’t care if someone wants to run it up. If they can, then they should. I think Pete’s record speaks for itself. The simple fact is that USC beat up on the Pac-10 for 7 years, and the rest of the conference is pretty sore about it. With the exception of the Beavers, I think just about every team in the Pac hates or at the very least has a strong dislike for the Trojans, and Pete.
by frak on Nov 16, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
See frak you had to explain to him how to figure out my age, PRICELESS
Hey whats a pimple on a Ruins butt—————-Brain Tumor
Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 16, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Simple logic
I assumed that 1952 was the year of your birth.
by frak on Nov 16, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What's funny to me is that people who call Pete out for running up the score
really must not have sat through all those completely boring 4th quarters that I have sat through. They just look at the final score, and declare Pete to be a jerk. Sorry dudes, you just don’t know what you are talking about.
by frak on Nov 16, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 16, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
You bring up a pretty good point. And it’s a pretty logical explanation.
by DannyJay01 on Nov 16, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll bet the defense said they are going for 2, we better stop this.
And they did and it showed if they play together with their heads out they can be successful.
To bad this didn’t happen in the start of the second half, but this team is just Helter Skelter who knows which one will show. Really who is Stanford, just another team but the only thing is the players aren’t really playing the game they are X-Boxing it.
Basically they have become Posers
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by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 15, 2009 8:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
so SC got beat by posers?
PS-what’s your definition of a poser?
by impaulv on Nov 15, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude wake-up I called USC the Posers D---F---
Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 15, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, your post structure threw me off as you said:
“Really who is Stanford, just another team but the only thing is the players aren’t really playing the game they are X-Boxing it.
Basically they have become Posers"
So you’re saying that USC’s team got beat by a Stanford team that’s just “X-Boxing it”, hence implying that the Stanford team has become the “Posers”.
by impaulv on Nov 15, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure he meant that that Stanford is just another team, but that the USC players are just X-boxing it, hence they are the posers. Part of an emerging theme that this particular SC team has given up a bit.
by DC Trojan on Nov 15, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally I didn't care if they ran up the score it's just the 2pt conversion.
Something most bruins wouldn’t understand but something like that can bring teams to fight, and have no place in that game. Personally I would have decked Harbutt
Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 15, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
UCLA vs. USC is an exception for running up the score...
but what about when USC went for a TD pass against Arkansas when they were already up 63 to 17 with a minute and something left in the 4th quarter while inside the Arkansas 5 yard line? Check out the link at the 8:05 mark…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fWz8QAYfTw
Bottom line is that if Pete Carroll, or any other coach, is going to run up the score then he has to be ready to take it. Pure and simple.
by EJBruin on Nov 16, 2009 12:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ok so lets get this straight
Michael McDonald, the third string QB, threw his one and only TD pass to a walk on receiver, and Pete is running up the score. If you consider an entire team of walk ons scoring a touchdown to be running up the score, then we are never going to agree.
Look dude, I don’t see Pete Carroll complaining about running it up, and quite frankly, I don’t give a rip if the rest of the Pac-10 is pissed off about Pete or the perception that Pete runs up the score. I don’t really care that Harbaugh went for two. If he wants to go and do that, it could have embarrassing consequences later when we play Stanford again.
by frak on Nov 16, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is it that all the Ruins still can't understand that we didn't care that Harbutt scored more points but it was the 2pt conversion that had no place.
I am starting to feel that all those Squirrels on their campus are bruins in their new life.
Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 16, 2009 1:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well there you go Frak, you must be a mind reader how did you figure that out.
Danny don’t worry we love you my little friend
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by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 16, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just had a thought
Back in 2004 USC beat Stanford in Palo Alto by 3 points. The Trojans ran out the clock in the Cardinal red zone rather than tack on another TD. Heres a good question. How many times has Pete opted not to tack on more points?
How about Washington State last year, where Pete neglected to kick a field goal at the end of the half when he was inside the Cougar 10 yard line. When was the last time that you saw a coach purposely decide not to tack on a field goal at half time?
by frak on Nov 16, 2009 11:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nice Memory!
True, with PC, you can actually find more good examples of proactively keeping the score down than vice versa. The counter-debaters simply don’t know what they are talking about.
by DFWTrojan on Nov 16, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Harbaugh
I feel that what he did this past saturday was a bunch of horse shit. I don’t mind you scoring and running up a score on a team bucause if they don’t like it all they have to do is stop them and they won’t. But for you to go for a 2pt try when you are up 48-21 late in the 4 quarter is horse shit I can’t wait for the next time we play a Harbaugh coached team (Stanford, ND , Michigan) and kick the shit out of them and have no mercy on them
by Dodgermanramon on Nov 16, 2009 5:29 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry they now are ranked pretty high and they got to play Cal who has recovered, they will get beat .
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by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 16, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I want USC to be the team that gives them an ass kicking. Them= Harbaugh coach team
by Dodgermanramon on Nov 16, 2009 6:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Harbaugh is a lunatic loudmouth
a hothead and a drunk. He broke his own hand while attacking sportscaster Jim Kelly in 1997 and was arrested for DUI in 2005 while he was Head Coach at USD. Saturday’s display was just par for the course. Old Jimbo has taken so many whacks to the head (361 career sacks ) that he couldn’t even come up with a clever response to PC’s “what’s the deal with you” question -a perfect set-up for anyone with even an ounce of wit.
Chargers fans remember his exit from San Diego in 2000 after the calamitous 1-15 campaign. The miserable Ryan Leaf started the season but was benched by Mike Riley after losing four straight; Jimbo got the call and proceeded to lose the following five games, forcing Riley to chose the younger of the two losers – and losing his own job in the bargain.
I used to like Jimbo for his dogged self assurance despite his decidedly mediocre (66-74-0) NFL record. He famously offered himself but was rejected by many a football program (including hometown San Diego State) because of his core loonyness, and it took tightfisted and nothing-to-lose Stanford to roll the dice. Here is a man that (having finally found redemption) desperately and pathetically needed to make some kind of haughty statement in front of the whole word. For now the Bruins will have to pay the price.
Good for The Farm, they won this round, but things will soon return to their natural order. Like a preening skirt chaser with his poker winnings, Jimbo will soon be looking-up that previously unattainable hottie.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 16, 2009 7:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Loco I remember him playing for the bears and the fact that he couldn't hit the side of a mountain.
But you know after the Rams left Southern cal. I kind of only watch college FB and didn’t pay much attention to pros. But wow this cat is really kind of a sad individual I guess he just can’t help himself, kind of like the drunk or drug addict.
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by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 16, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I used to find his antics amusing
Harbaugh had a nice college career at Michigan and came in 3rd in the Heisman vote, and he led them to a #2 ranking in 1985. In 1987 they made it to the Rose Bowl only to be beaten by Arizona State 22-15. The expression “close but no cigar” defines the high points of Jimbo’s career, a perennial bridesmaid when hes been good and a mediocrity the rest of the time.
They messed with his mind. In the 1998 draft the Colts dumped Harbaugh to make room for #1 pick and future Hall of Famer Peyton Manning. In other words, the Colts didn’t want Harbaugh around to screw-up their multimillion dollar investment. The Chargers took nut-job and future jail bird Ryan Leaf as the #2 overall pick, and he had a miserable rookie year. In 1999 the Chargers brought in Mike Riley and Harbaugh hoping that they could win some games and mentor Leaf -who was injured and acting like a complete idiot. By the end of 2000 Leaf and Harbaugh proved they were losers by ending 1-15, and the Chargers got rid of both of them.
Bottom line: Jimbo isn’t going to develop any dynasties at Stanford, he’s not even going to win the Pac-10. All he’s looking for is attention from Al Davis or some other NFL owner, or perhaps from Notre Dame or even his beloved Michigan. He’ll only stay at Stanford as long as it is absolutely necessary.
¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa
by Locoweed 1.1 on Nov 16, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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