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As USC and Oregon prepare to battle for the Rose Bowl and potential BCS glory, I'm also reading Domer Dan Lungren's foolish comments about USC's "headhunter," and I realize how football as we know it could end someday.

A hundred years ago, baseball became our "National Passtime," but football has far surpassed it in the last 40 years, becoming a National Obsession. Politicians took note of its popularity and tried to use it to promote themselves; but for some, the game became an irresistible target due to its violent nature. More recently Orrin Hatch, Dan Lungren and other clueless pols have been getting in on the act for their own selfish reasons.

America's elites have always viewed football disdainfully, but they've left it alone. Now, with clueless repubs like Lungren trying to score some cheap political points, the lefties see a golden opportunity to emasculate, er... "Change"  the game.

Star-divide

In an October 19, 2009 article in The New Yorker magazine, Malcolm Gladwell (Tipping Point, Blink, Outliers) compared football to dog fighting; yeah, dog fighting:

Offensive Play

How different are dogfighting and football?

by Malcolm Gladwell

In a few short words, Gladwell makes an searing indictment: Football is the human equivalent of dogfighting.

As America's unofficial pop sociologist and a best selling author his words carry a lot of weight. The readership of The New Yorker is heavy with amateur social engineers, high minded dowagers, academic elites, and the politicians that love them. Surely they know what's best for us children.

The LAT reports that yesterday, a House Judiciary Committee panel held a hearing. Former NFL football players demanded Federal scrutiny of the NFL.

"The causes and pervasiveness of these football injuries warrant federal scrutiny," said committee Chairman John Conyers (D-Mich.), who called for the league to release its injury data for an independent review. "These are not the types of risks these players or their families associate with the game of football."

Gladwell has definitely started something.

In the nineteenth century, dogfighting was widely accepted by the American public. But we no longer find that kind of transaction morally acceptable in a sport. "I was not aware of dogfighting and the terrible things that happen around dogfighting," Goodell said, explaining why he responded so sternly in the (Michael) Vick case. One wonders whether, had he spent as much time talking to (former NFL player) Kyle Turley as he did to Michael Vick, he’d start to have similar doubts about his own sport.

Like a modern day Harriet Beecher Stowe, Gladwell is taking up the cause to rid America of football, one of its last unholy institutions. The point of his argument is aimed squarely at the NFL, but Gladwell is too smart overlook football's soft underbelly, College and High School football.

(College) Football faced a version of this question a hundred years ago, after a series of ugly incidents. In 1905, President Theodore Roosevelt called an emergency summit at the White House, alarmed, as the historian John Sayle Watterson writes, "that the brutality of the prize ring had invaded college football and might end up destroying it." Columbia University dropped the sport entirely. A professor at the University of Chicago called it a "boy-killing, man-mutilating, money-making, education-prostituting, gladiatorial sport." In December of 1905, the presidents of twelve prominent colleges met in New York and came within one vote of abolishing the game.

If such a meeting took place in these enlightened times, would the result be the same? Picking up where John Sayle Watterson left off, Gladwell opines:

But the main objection at the time was to a style of play—densely and dangerously packed offensive strategies—that, it turns out, could be largely corrected with rule changes, like the legalization of the forward pass and the doubling of the first-down distance from five yards to ten. Today, when we consider subtler and more insidious forms of injury, it’s far from clear whether the problem is the style of play or the play itself.

Perhaps I'm Loco, but it's probably not be a coincidence that our friends up at Berkeley are hearing faculty demands (not wanting to waste a good crisis) for cuts in athletic programs with football front and center. Just prior there was all that hand wringing in the media over Tim Tebow's concussion, and the "Congressional investigation" of the BCS, and clown Lungren unloading on Taylor Mays.

But a football player’s real issue isn’t simply with repetitive concussive trauma. It is, as the concussion specialist Robert Cantu argues, with repetitive subconcussive trauma. It’s not just the handful of big hits that matter. It’s lots of little hits, too. That’s why, Cantu says, so many of the ex-players who have been given a diagnosis of C.T.E. were linemen: line play lends itself to lots of little hits. The HITS data suggest that, in an average football season, a lineman could get struck in the head a thousand times, which means that a ten-year N.F.L. veteran, when you bring in his college and high-school playing days, could well have been hit in the head eighteen thousand times: that’s thousands of jarring blows that shake the brain from front to back and side to side, stretching and weakening and tearing the connections among nerve cells, and making the brain increasingly vulnerable to long-term damage.

According to the scientists Gladwell interviewed for his piece, there's no way to prevent concussions, even with improved gear:

Would better helmets help? Perhaps. And there have been better models introduced that absorb more of the shock from a hit. But, Nowinski says, the better helmets have become—and the more invulnerable they have made the player seem—the more athletes have been inclined to play recklessly.

So if better gear won't help, what can you do? You neuter the game.

Guskiewicz says his data show that a disproportionate number of serious head impacts happen on kickoffs, so he wonders whether it might make sense, in theory, anyway, to dispense with them altogether.

And finally Gladwell reaches a not-so surprising conclusion:

What football must confront, in the end, is not just the problem of injuries or scientific findings. It is the fact that there is something profoundly awry in the relationship between the players and the game.

In "Outliers," Gladwell makes the following comment regarding Bill Gates:

"Our world only allowed one 13-year-old unlimited access to a time-sharing terminal in 1968. If a million teenagers had been given the same opportunity, how many more Microsofts would we have today?"

Perhaps Gladwell thinks those million 13-year-olds should be sitting safely at home in front of their computers, instead of being out there bashing each other on a football field. We are definitely missing several thousand Microsofts.

All that recent crazy talk about NFL franchise "plantations" and who the players will and won't play for shows that indeed there is something awry. Politics invaded the NFL decades years ago, but could it be possible that politics will destroy it? Probably not, but politics may change the game into something we won't recognize.

Fight On!

Beat the Ducks!

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Interesting.......

but I think you mean"Orrin" hatch.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Oct 29, 2009 8:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

h/t

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 29, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Que hombre! Bravo!

Incredible data and information, wrapped around the keen insight of your mind to (forgive me Paragon) “chronicle” the current state of college/pro football and the inane priorities of our congressmen. Excellent commentary Loco. Friggin awesome!

sidenote: Malcolm Gladwell happens to be the current “guru de jour” for our very own Coach Pete Carroll. I wonder what BigBallsPete thinks regarding Gladwell’s disdain for “the human equivalent of dogfighting”? Coach Carroll loves to publicly drop the “outlier” word and phrasing as it applies to Matt Barkley. That’s exactly what he calls the boy. No shit!

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Oct 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

America’s Pop Sociologist, extreme powerful. Everybody is into his books and NYM pieces, so when I read the article last week I thought, trouble. Didn’t want to throw it into Pete’s face. This week Domer Dan pops off and the Judiciary Committee is holding hearings, it seems a orchestrated.
Can you imagine the A-11/Pluto offense in the NFL? That may be where we’re headed, don’t know if you agree Bixtor but I’d rather watch futbol.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 29, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sho' nuff compa!

In order:

Cruz Azul
Catolica
(not into Argentinean nor Brazilian- just Mexico and Chile in the Americas)
Chelsea
AS Roma
Barca
Stuttgart
Ajax (sometimes PSV Eindhoven- when Ajax is down)
(not into the French league)

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Oct 29, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy mole, Walter Ormeño y la Maquina Cementera fueron mi equipo en los 60’s. ¡El Sr. Prof. Acevedo era el técnico! Prácticamente era mi tío.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 29, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

\77\

"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}

by BixBeiderbecke on Oct 29, 2009 8:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

1) There are plenty of New Yorker readers who love football. I’m one of them, I know a lot of them, and I even am related to some of them.

2) Lungren and Hatch are Republicans, don’t try and pin this on us crazy liberals only. Most of us try and have our kids play soccer or other sports where they won’t have to come into contact with crazy poor people. (Some of whom might not be white!)

3) I’ve seen this cycle before. There are a lot of older soccer players who have dementia at rates well outside the norm. It is in all likelihood because of heading heavy balls that became even heavier when waterlogged. The only people who argue the point are either in the pay of a league. The best that anyone’s come up with is to lighten the balls and make them out of water-resistant materials because if you removed heading the ball from soccer, you’d hugely constrict the game.

4) Does Gladwell even know anything about Microsoft? Bill Gates didn’t create an operating system from scratch, he copied DOS and monetized the shit out of it. The thousands of teenagers on computers wouldn’t create another MS, they’d write, oh I don’t know, open source OS and code.

5) If you really want kids to do something useful, ban television. That should free up some time.

6) Go back to ancient times, you’ll find talented people being exploited for money in sports. If there’s money or prestige to be had, people will be commoditized and abused. Tell me how it’s any worse to have a bunch of poor kids hitting one another on the football field than to cheer on a bunch of midgets with eating disorders in gymnastics.

7) Academics don’t hate football because they’re leftists, the ones who hate it do so because it’s physical, accessible, and more to the point might possibly be sucking up some money that they could have. There’s no sight more unedifying than a bunch of academics with the scent of a few dollars in their nostrils, right, left, or in-between.

by DC Trojan on Oct 29, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, D.C., but on your point #3, I think you have the cause and effect reversed. They don’t get dementia because they’re soccer players, they become soccer players because they have dementia.

by CalBear81 on Oct 29, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

And

Star-kist don’t want tunas with good taste, they want tunas that taste good!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 29, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry Charlie, maybe you’ll win next season!

by DC Trojan on Oct 30, 2009 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I’ve got it right. The tragic thing is that it took much longer to diagnose them because they weren’t that bright to start with.

by DC Trojan on Oct 30, 2009 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

2) Those Repugs are idiots, they couldn’t organize a high school dance. You planet savers will take the lead on this one, Conyers is already hard at it.
3) You like fútbol? Team Señor?
4) Gladwell is just writing the score for this movie. Smart boy, he likes to sell lots of books.
6) When there’s no football, boys just beat on each other in the parking lot.
7) Everyone knows the 98 lb. weaklings become academics, they also go trend lib.
A-11 here we come.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 29, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2) I’m surprised that someone that senior is getting involved, progress towards nationalizing everything is plainly better than expected.

3) For nationalist reasons: Scotland. For the beautiful game reasons: Barcelona. For family reasons: Partick Thistle. And also Everton, because fuck Liverpool, that’s why.

4) That doesn’t make faulty and sensationalist conclusions right. If you’re going to sell yourself as someone who comes up with smart, counterintuitive books, then maybe you should deliver just that.

6) This is true.

7) Well, I was in a Phd Program, I trend liberal, but I played rugby (briefly) in high school and am built like a small fullback. My father in law is an English professor who was a quarterback in high school (on the same team as Al Gore, entertainingly) and is a stone-cold Michigan football obsessive. So that’s at least 2. Out of thousands.

A-11? Just read about it online and it sounds like it could be rugby in pads, or flag football for boys. If we’re going down the latter route, maybe the future could be co-ed. I can think of worse things than some of the women’s volleyball team suiting up.

by DC Trojan on Oct 30, 2009 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

2) Swells you up with pride, don’t it?

3) For all reasons Brasil, and fuck all England except Arsenal, ma sempre mi piace molto squadra azzurra, forza!

4) This is true

7) Your father-in-law reminds me of my uncle Rodolfo, but that’s another story

A-11?: Ding, ding, ding ,ding!! We have a WINNER!! You nailed it professor… CO-ED FOOTBALL IS COMING HERE. The pussification of America takes a huge leap forward.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 30, 2009 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to retract only one part of my assessment of A-11: it’s not rugby in pads. It’s basketball in pads.

by DC Trojan on Oct 30, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also: not a professor, I decided that I wanted to make a living wage after all.

by DC Trojan on Oct 30, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A serious question about A-11

I was skimming the official site, and if I understand it correctly, it boils down to skirting the rules about ineligible receivers by changing the jersey numbers for offensive lineman etc., who then become able to receive the ball and so on.

If I’m understanding it correctly, then isn’t this essentially being a jailhouse lawyer? I mean, if the letter of the law is to identify a group of players who can’t handle the ball and jersey numbering is the mechanism for identifying those players, then changing the jersey numbers is a cheap way of evading the general principle.

It also seems like this is a scheme that could very easily be eliminated by simply changing the rules on ineligible receivers… or am I missing something?

by DC Trojan on Oct 30, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

It appears to be a lawyerized football-oid scheme. As far as I know it’s been banned precisely because it’s unsporstmanlike.
Desmo/Zoulu is a bit of an expert on the A-11, Veer, and similar (crappy) offenses. Maybe he’ll enlighten us.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 30, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Problem is, there’s a big push for it because it is fun, it gives fast little guys a leg up, it decreases injuries, “everybody plays” or anybody can score, and girls can play too.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 30, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It might have it’s uses as a gateway game for small kids, but that’s about it. And the reason that I say that is purely reasoning by analogy: the best soccer coaching for kids is done in Holland and Brazil, and in both cases they emphasize ball handling and half-field play at most. The kids don’t get to the “real deal” until they are maybe 10 – 12.

So I can see that maybe A-11 might have a place for pee-wee football, where you’re just trying to give them a feel for the game, but eventually you’d have to switch to the real deal.

by DC Trojan on Oct 30, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the anyone can play front

Malcolm Gladwell wrote an article about underdogs in May in the New Yorker, which I mention because he threaded a bunch of historical analogies around a story of a girls’ team from San Jose who won big not because they were any good but because they played full court press all the time, until they were basically run out of a game by a ref who thought they were violating the spirit of basketball. It’s here. I don’t know if it’s valid because I don’t know the first thing about basketball, but the team trajectory made for an interesting anecdote.

What might have been interesting is if he had extended the idea from that article into the football article – in other words, is there a tactical advantage to violence, does it nullify talent disparities, etc. (Yes and yes, I’d say). You could then argue that the question doesn’t have to be hitting / no hitting but rather when it starts.

by DC Trojan on Oct 30, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saw the article back then and thought, meh. Now you’re making an interesting conneciton.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 30, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh... classic so.cal. jibe

Mannies and peddies on the sidelines? Hmmm.

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 30, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t mock, the UC system could use the extra money. They could have the ladies – and the men, I don’t judge – freshen up their look for the evening during the game, and raise bus fare while they’re at it.

by DC Trojan on Oct 30, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They could start making Manolo Blahnik cleats!

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 30, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They might want to start by taking the heel down a bit.

Could be a good choice for when Norm Chow flounces out at the end of the season though.

by DC Trojan on Oct 30, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Norm Chow is heels? Not a good visual

If your wife owns a pair you should borrow them for Trick-Or-Treating tomorrow

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 30, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t do trick or treating.

Nor, for that matter, do I wear the wife’s heels. Her feet are smaller than mine.

by DC Trojan on Oct 30, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to Wolf

McCoy is out tomorrow

¡Fusílenlo, después veriguamos! - Pancho Villa

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 30, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Context is important

1. Politicians and football meddling are nothing new — Teddy Roosevelt led the effort to ban football in the 1900’s. Football was even banned at USC, like many colleges USC switched to Rugby.

2. I think that Lungren’s deal is more domer sour grapes than anything else.

3. Tension between academic departments and sports is not unique to cal — Notre Dame has had similar struggles

by ilium55 on Oct 29, 2009 10:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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