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Notre Dame Football - An Alternative Abridged History

Late on the eve of the next installment in the USC - Notre Dame rivalry, it seems like time to take a good long look at our rivals. Sure we may tease them about getting shelled the last few years, and their resorting to getting misty eyed over their actual scholar athletes, but how much do any of you actually know about Notre Dame. I was certainly ignorant, and some of the things I found out were eye-opening to say the least. Torpedoes, nudists, money, Fibonacci numbers: this story has them all. Tally ho!

In the beginning...

The University of Notre Dame du Lac was founded in 1842 and eventually fielded a football team in 1887. By this time, the complete collapse of the French Second Republic during the Franco-Prussian War 17 years previously had caused some of the more astute members of the Notre Dame football team to be concerned about being seen as cheese-eating surrender monkeys, so they dropped the "du Lac" part of the name for public consumption, fearing that association with moist-to-soggy French mademoiselles would either inflame anti-Catholic sentiment or football players deprived of female companionship during the long Indiana nights. And so the stage was set for an early 20th century reign of terror...

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Learning to deal with competition...

Notre Dame's first game was to the University of Michigan, which they lost, as indeed they did the following three times they attempted to beat the Wolverines. Between 1887 and 1913, the Notre Dame team played both collegiate and high school teams, a habit abandoned on the basis that colleges like Syracuse could generally provide respectable but hapless competition - a strategy that bore fruit until the Gerging of Charlie Weis in 2008.

Michigan refused to play Notre Dame between 1909 and 1942. Whatever moral ground that Michigan may have thought that they were occupying, they in fact handed the Notre Dame team their first opportunity to deploy the "snubbed by a team we could have beaten" theme that has allowed them to discount any losses to Michigan since 1942 on the grounds that Michigan isn't a real rival anyway and probably just got lucky on the day.

Nonetheless, Michigan football demonstrated sound thinking that day in 1909 when they decided to avoid Notre Dame. The Fighting Irish "respect" campaign led them to take on the likes of Army, Penn State, and Texas. Strange things began to happen to those teams though - Pancho Villa expanded his operations to include Texas, and Pennsylvania separatists attempted to annex College Station to West Virginia. No conclusive proof was found that Notre Dame was involved, but suspicions ran high because of the multi-year effort to stick it to Army.

That effort culminated with the sinking of the Lusitania by former Notre Dame exchange student and walk-on linebacker Kapitanleutnant Walther Schwieger. Schwieger's log entries typically started with references to being under the blue-gray sky, and while weather in the North Atlantic is generally pretty crap, it has been established that Schwieger used this phrase even on sunny days.

What has a U-Boat attack got to do with the Army football team, you might be asking. Well, the eventual result of the sinking of the Lusitania led to the US entry into World War I, which resulted in the machine-gunning of most of the Army team members who had thwarted Notre Dame's football team. Wolverines shuddered to think that it could have been them.

USC, the Hays Board, and the cinematic propaganda war...


The nicey-nicey version of the start of the rivalry between USC and Notre Dame is that Knute Rockne's wife was persuaded by the wife of the USC Athletic Director that going to Los Angeles every other year would be a jolly change from South Bend. Others suggest that the combination of cash-money for Notre Dame was pretty compelling, giving them a way to maintain their princpled objection to bowl games while pocketing serious cash - a canny eye on the bottom line underneath self-presentation that culminated in NBC setting back college football broadcasting roughly 6 times every fall. Still others suggest that Knute Rockne's friendship with new USC coach Howard Jones was the key.

In fact, all three were true, but not the whole story. Mrs Rockne did lobby for the trip to Los Angeles. A habitual naturist (as seen in this NSFW picture from their wedding), she was tired of the short sun-bathing season in Indiana, and tired also of the constant cover-ups (figurative and literal) by athletic department staff and mortified Jesuits. Knute Rockne did want to head to LA to play against his old buddy Jones, and saw a chance to pick up some cash while he did it - by reminding Notre Dame every year that USC had tried to hire him before Jones, and increased pay would be a plus. Notre Dame needed the appearance money to meet Rockne's salary demands, as well as for paying off photographers who hung around the Rockne yard trying to get compromising pictures of Mrs Rockne.

It was the perfect storm, but the missing detail is the threat of excommunication: Rockne was warned that the Jesuits hadn't forgotten the dark arts of the auto-da-fe, and a painful painful runup to being thrown out of the Church would result, if he ever forgot who was paying the bills and yielded to the siren call of coaching on the west coast.

At the same time, movies were becoming an ever more important part of popular culture. It seems curious to note that it was Notre Dame who had captured the popular imagination through this medium: thousands of kids who saw films with Irish ragamuffins in Hell's Kitchen crying out "just trow me da ball Fadder!" were the genesis of the Subway "alumni," and Knute Rockne even had a film made in his honor after he died... But where was USC? The film school had been founded in 1929, Buster Crabbe and John Wayne were getting into films, the university is in Los Angeles, and Fatty Arbuckle even lived near campus. Why the hell was USC not on the silver screen?

Once again, the Domers had outflanked the competition. By 1934, the Hays Code was being enforced, and it had been principally written by one Father Daniel Lord SJ (talk about a name driving your profession!) in 1930. There were three main principles:

  1. No picture shall be produced that will lower the moral standards of those who see it. Hence the sympathy of the audience should never be thrown to the side of crime, wrongdoing, evil or sin.
  2. Correct standards of life, subject only to the requirements of drama and entertainment, shall be presented.
  3. Law, natural or human, shall not be ridiculed, nor shall sympathy be created for its violation.

This was deep, deep cunning. What could be more lowering of moral standards than undercutting Notre Dame by letting those lapsed Methodists from Los Angeles show their football team in a good light? Nothing, that's what, with Catholic organizations spearheading the drive for removing moral laxity from the movie screens of America. And so, from a cinematic standpoint, USC became an unteam.

In fact, USC was so bamboozled by these years that when they eventually placed a football player into the popular culture, it was OJ Simpson, widely assumed to be a safe Negro until it emerged that his Hertz musings on getting out of town in a hurry foreshadowed his need to flee following his emergence as a homicidal lunatic. A university with 30 plus years of placing its football team in films would never have made that kind of mistake.

The End of Sabotage, Imposition of Numerological Strategy, and Surprise Results...

With the end of the Second World War, and the rise of the Cold War, the powers behind Notre Dame football concluded that it was time to enter a new era in confounding their opponents. The beginning of the end of the Hays Code with louche foreign films (imported by a splinter group from USC trying to bring down the Notre Dame film embargo on their team) reduced the tools at their disposal, and the election of President Kennedy and attendant anti-Catholic fear-mongering meant that using foreign agents and shadowy organizations were out of the question.

This made it imperative that the Notre Dame football structure put their money where their mouth was about being brighter than the average college athlete... and they came up with something cunning: using numerological cycles and occasionally posting counter-intuitive results so people stopped noticing the trends because of the recency effect.

Here's how it works: ever since 1941 the coaches produce results that either correlate to Fibonacci numbers or - when deemed necessary - cycles equivalent to 8.6 years / pi multiplied by 1,000 days. If the cycle is down, then there has to be a counter-intuitive positive result. If it's an up cycle, then the counter-intuitive result has to be negative. Sometimes there are sequential periods of success rather than a strict alternation of success and suckage.

When you look at it this way, the results almost fit - which makes sense, there has to be some deliberate variation to throw people off the scent. After all, the best evidence of a conspiracy is the absence of evidence! But after literally minutes of work with Excel, we can show that the results for Notre Dame football in the years since 1941 break out like this:

  • Coach Leahy had a tenure of 13 years, with good results: 13 is a Fibonacci number
  • Coaches Brennan and Kuharich each had 5 year tenures with bad results, but Paul Hornung won the Heisman: 5 is a Fibonacci number
  • Coaches Parseghian and Devine coached for a cumulative 17 years, which is just about two 8.6 year cycles, with good results, and threw people off the Fibonacci trail
  • Coach Faust coached for 5 years, with crap results, but started the 13 year streak of beating or tying with USC: 5 is again a Fibonacci number
  • Coach Holtz coached for 11 years, with good results, and produced the counter-intuitive result of losing his final game against USC, breaking the 13 game streak. Since Dr Lou doesn't do math as such, the 11 year tenure doesn't conform to anything, but the end of the streak against USC at 13 years kept a Fibonacci number in the mix despite his best efforts to defy the laws of mathematics and the iron law of the Athletic Department
  • Coach Davie produced 5 years of crap results, but beat SC and nearly beat Nebraska: another instance of the Fibonacci number 5 and counter-intuitive results
  • Coach Willingham produced some seriously crap results, and was out in 3 years: the administration had to drop him on the Fibonacci cycle or else be stuck with a guaranteed 2 more years of suck

And then we get to Charlie Weis, whose tenure thus far defies easy classification: he's in his fifth year, which would be a classic Fibonacci year to round out sequential crap results and get shitcanned, but the counter-intuitive games have been bad (Syracuse and Navy, for a start), and his contract is so long that he could theoretically have one crap period and one good period.

So how can someone make sense of this season? So far, it's been going well, which might mean that Notre Dame will lose against USC this year, to produce a result that doesn't go with the season. Or perhaps the tyranny of the long suck means that the season so far is the counter-intuitive result, and the Irish will lose tomorrow to wake up the echoes of the Brennan and Kuharich years. I just don't know which one it will be. Why oh why couldn't Dan Brown have turned his attention to this Catholic numerological mystery? WHY!?!?!?!??

It looks like we'll just have to wait and see what happens on the field.

Fight On, and beat the Irish (numerological conspiracy)!

Poll
So, just how convincing is this history of Notre Dame football?
Whatever, you couldn't be any more jealous of Notre Dame's tradition and academic prowess
8 votes
Did you know you're supposed to wait until the afternoon before the game to start drinking?
4 votes
I always suspected that Notre Dame had something to do with the First World War...
14 votes
Are you sure you're not Dan Brown?
2 votes
I'd have someone else start your car for the next few days, just in case
8 votes

36 votes | Poll has closed

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I say blame the hunchbacks for every evil ever imagined, works for me

by peteyweestro on Oct 16, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice one DC I am still laughing away

But I will say one thing I’m of Irish background but nobody in the fathers family cared about ND. Now I know why Notre dame they are French not Irish, maybe the fighting thing was about fighting against the Irish. Of course we know the French just dug a trench along the border and drank red wine and ate Brie and bread.

Paul D. Kelley

It's not about doing your job, But can you do it with a TENNIS BALL in your throat!

by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 17, 2009 7:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious DC!

Perfect analysis of the Doh!mers. I would also add that Mrs. Rockne was quite enamored with Hollywood (and having to live with her husband’s foolish decision to remain in the glacial plains of South Bend), she jumped at the opportunity travel to Los Angeles on a regular junket, hoping to enjoy some sunshine and rub elbows with the stars.

But where was USC? The film school had been founded in 1929, Buster Crabbe and John Wayne were getting into films, the university is in Los Angeles, and Fatty Arbuckle even lived near campus. Why the hell was USC not on the silver screen?
You bring up a couple of good questions. In the 1920’s USC isn’t just IN Los Angeles, it IS Los Angeles The City Government, Law Courts, Movie Moguls, Real Estate Developers, Oil Tycoons plus an assortment of colorful rouges were all associated in one way or another with USC. And as far as movies were concerned, the USC campus doubled for many and Ivy League College; but the USC was actually featured in the football themed and romantic 1929 movie “So This is College.” The two main characters were aptly named Eddie and Biff, and the Trojans are about to play the Indians -as in Stanford.
Here’s the plot:
In this campus musical, the 1928 big game between USC and Stanford provides the impetus for music and mayhem. The story centers upon two USC teammates, Eddie and Biff, who share just about everything, even their girl friend, Babs. The trouble is, they don’t know they are both dating Babs until just before the crucial game. Fortunately, the coach is there to mediate between the two angry men. He reminds them that women are not as important as winning the game. ~ Sandra Brennan, All Movie Guide
http://www.answers.com/topic/so-this-is-college
Biff and Eddie are the best of chums and both star football players on the University of Southern California football team. The Trojans, thanks to chummy-roommates Biff and Eddie are rolling over all teams who dast step foot on the same gridiron. But then along comes campus-cutie co-ed Babs Baxter, who encourages one and does not discourage the other and, soon, Eddie and Biff are not the best of chums anymore, and it appears that this may cause the USC Trojans to lose the final big-game of the season to the Stanford Indians…(who would later change the team-name to a PC Cardinal.) (Singular). Can things get patched together before the hated rivals from Palo Alto come to town? Written by Les Adams
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0020425/plotsummary
Fun stuff!
Now, let’s go out and beat the crap out of the Irish!

by Locoweed 1.1 on Oct 17, 2009 9:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I will say this other than playing USC does ucla even have another Rival.

I guess they are just what a guy said on Game Day this morning a LIFE PRESERVER for teams needing to stay afloat. I guess they are like this object in the movie Catty Shack:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PmMFaVzbzc&feature=related

Paul D. Kelley

It's not about doing your job, But can you do it with a TENNIS BALL in your throat!

by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 17, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PmMFaVzbzc&feature=related

Paul D. Kelley

It's not about doing your job, But can you do it with a TENNIS BALL in your throat!

by so.cal.native1952 on Oct 17, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit, nice find Loco. That’s what I get for putting literally minutes of research into this post ;)

by DC Trojan on Oct 18, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bravo!

You guys should start a blog. Oh, wait…duh!

by DFWTrojan on Oct 17, 2009 12:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"History is written by the victors (valient)"

Great story. Great game today. One of Churchill’s most famous lines was, “History is written by the victors.” You forgot to note the apocryphal story where Father Sorin (Founder of Notre Dame) and the five Brothers of the Congregation of the Holy Cross were actually headed to California to build a Catholic university. They were stopped in South Bend by a snow storm. Father Sorin told the others Brothers, “We’ll just wait here a while until the weather clears.”

by Chicago Wolverine on Oct 17, 2009 6:16 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I’d be inclined to believe that apocryphal story, but then I’d believe anything.

by DC Trojan on Oct 18, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kapitanleutnant Walther Schwieger

How true is the story about Kapitanleutnant Walther Schwieger being a linebacker for ND? Does anyone have a reference?

by Chicago Wolverine on Oct 18, 2009 11:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s completely untrue – I just made it up because I needed some kind of Notre Dame connection to getting the US involved in WWI.

Well, I suppose I should say I can’t prove it.

by DC Trojan on Oct 18, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You got the whole thing wrong, D.C. Ronald Reagan founded Notre Dame. There was a movie about this.

by CalBear81 on Oct 18, 2009 11:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I might have known it was the Great Communicator.

by DC Trojan on Oct 18, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or it might have been Notre Dame that founded Ronald Reagan. The movie’s not entirely clear on this point.

by CalBear81 on Oct 19, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And on the subject of USC in the movies, I believe that it makes an appearance in The Freshman (1925) with Harold Lloyd, about a dopey freshman who turns into the big football hero. I have read that the campus scenes were shot on the USC campus. But the scenes at the big finale game were shot at halftime of the first Cal-Stanfurd game played at Memorial Stadium (the wide shots), while the close-ups were shot at the Rose Bowl, with extras in the first couple of rows.

by CalBear81 on Oct 18, 2009 11:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dammit, another expert on early films involving USC. I certainly didn’t expect this, I can tell you.

by DC Trojan on Oct 18, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a silent movie fan. I was watching The Freshman on DVD, and when it got to the big finale game I thought, “wait, that’s Cal!” Then I thought, “I’ve gotten way too obsessed with Cal football. I am seeing it everywhere.” And it did look a little different because the surrounding buildings weren’t there and trees were so small (but let’s not talk about those damn trees). But when I listened to the film historians on the audio commentary, they said the big finale was shot at Cal during the 1925 Big Game, and that the campus scenes were all shot at USC.

by CalBear81 on Oct 18, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh. That’s interesting. I suppose it makes sense because the Coliseum was only a couple of years old at that point, and SC was building but not quite at National Championship level, but Cal was large and in charge of in-state football.

by DC Trojan on Oct 19, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, those were the Andy Smith Wonder Team days. Apparently, they wanted to be guaranteed a huge, sold-out crowd, and the first Big Game ever at Memorial Stadium was that. But it was quite a logistical project. They had to get the entire thing shot at half time. Before and after the game, the stadium wouldn’t be full. That only gave them 20 minutes to get all their equipment out on the field, get all the shots they needed, and get cleared out. No chance for re-takes.

It’s not Harold Lloyd’s best film (that’s definitely Safety Last, which audiences today still go crazy for), but it’s fun, and it is well worth watching to see the shots of the campuses back in the day.

by CalBear81 on Oct 19, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s now in my Netflix queue.

by DC Trojan on Oct 19, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One more thing, D.C.: "Smaaaaaaack!"

You should have done that background check after all!

by CalBear81 on Oct 19, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad!

A story about how a ND alum sank the Lusitania would have made great fodder for taunting domers for many years. Very creative anyway. Thanks.

by Chicago Wolverine on Oct 19, 2009 5:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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